Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
* Karl M. Joch [01/22/2003 08:29]: thats for sure one way, but deleting by date could maybe let some stuff back. a touch on any file egardless the reason of it would cause the date to change too. so a list of files which are to remove would be fine. then there would be the possibility of making a script which deletes the files and the updated system would be clean. i think i will make a diff of the trees 4.7 and 5.0 and then a script of it. but as more people upgrade the question will come up very often i think or it will cause lot of troubles with perl when letting the 4.x stuff on the box. There was actually a bunch of stuff left from 4.7... other than uucp and perl. Looking through it, one could tell that some things were just renamed on the new release. It sure would be nice if an installworld would clean that stuff up. In addition, there were man pages and docs for the old perl located outside the /bin /sbin /usr/bin /user/sbin directories that needed cleaning up... as well as some uucp stuff in /var/spool. Also a couple of periodic jobs relating to uucp. i havnt tried till now. have you included the COMPAT 4 option in the kernel to still be able to run the 4.x binaries? i succussfull build 5.0 on a box running 4.7. till now (except the a.ot - elf update) it always worked in multiuser mode too. sometimes after the first rebbot a second installworld was neccecary but it worked. but i will try today if installword lets me do it and then post the result. i only dont want to travel thousends of km to boxes to do a installworld. Yes, the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 was compiled into my kernel by default. The thing is, the installworld does a kernel test to determine if the running kernel is recent enough. So I don't know how you'd installworld while on the old 4.7 kernel. In my case, the test failure was indicated by a segfault. (not the nicest way, but it certainly got it's point across) -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:34:08 -0800, Elden Fenison wrote: * Doug Reynolds [01/21/2003 22:22]: according to /usr/src/UPDATING, multiuser updating from 4.7 to 5.0 is slim to impossible. Sorry, I should have clarified... it was the first part of his question that interested me... and that isn't answered in UPDATING... about getting rid of the old perl/uucp stuff. AFAIK, when i did it, I had to install perl from the ports again. it seems like the only things it left from the old perl was: /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/ this, at least, after i installed the new perl --- doug reynolds | the maverick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
Karl M. Joch wrote: How to safly and completely remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything about it. regarding Perl/UUCP, I have no idea but would be curious to know this as well. Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away in multi user mode. any chance this works? regarding make installworld: i have never bothered to drop to single-user mode to make installworld and have never had any problems with it. on the other hand, i have never tried a major version update (ie: 4.x - 5.x), i have only done minor version updates (ie: 4.5 - 4.6), so the above may not apply in this case. .daniel.schrock, ccna .anonymous-daemon.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
* Alex [01/21/2003 21:01]: How to safly and completely remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything about it. Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away in multi user mode. any chance this works? Are you looking for the Early Adopter's Guide? (its on the main webpage) This seems a little ironic. The Early Adopter's Guide simply points you to /usr/src/UPDATING... and the original poster said he'd already looked there... and now you're pointing him back to the Early Adopter's Guide. I would also like an answer to the original poster's question, but it's doesn't exist in the Early Adopter's Guide... nor does it seem to exist in UPDATING. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:06:11 -0800, Elden Fenison wrote: * Alex [01/21/2003 21:01]: How to safly and completely remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything about it. Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away in multi user mode. any chance this works? Are you looking for the Early Adopter's Guide? (its on the main webpage) This seems a little ironic. The Early Adopter's Guide simply points you to /usr/src/UPDATING... and the original poster said he'd already looked there... and now you're pointing him back to the Early Adopter's Guide. I would also like an answer to the original poster's question, but it's doesn't exist in the Early Adopter's Guide... nor does it seem to exist in UPDATING. according to /usr/src/UPDATING, multiuser updating from 4.7 to 5.0 is slim to impossible. --- doug reynolds | the maverick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
* Doug Reynolds [01/21/2003 22:22]: according to /usr/src/UPDATING, multiuser updating from 4.7 to 5.0 is slim to impossible. Sorry, I should have clarified... it was the first part of his question that interested me... and that isn't answered in UPDATING... about getting rid of the old perl/uucp stuff. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
* Alex [01/21/2003 21:01]: How to safly and completely remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything about it. I'm no expert... but I just successfully upgraded from 4.7 to 5.0 today. It didn't seem too hard to just look in /sbin /usr/sbin /bin /usr/bin to find things that weren't dated with today's date and delete them. The only stuff that wouldn't have been dated today after a build/install world would have been old leftovers from 4.7. Perhaps that was a bit foolhardy, but so far all is well. Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away in multi user mode. any chance this works? I did learn one important thing... when the UPDATING doc says to install the new kernel, then RE-boot into single user mode to install world, it means it. Just dropping to single user mode without a reboot was not enough. The installworld refuses to work unless you're actually booted on the new kernel. And I would highly doubt, that after installing the new kernel but having the old world that you could boot into anything BUT single user mode. -- -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 4.7 - 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)
Elden Fenison schrieb: * Alex [01/21/2003 21:01]: How to safly and completely remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything about it. I'm no expert... but I just successfully upgraded from 4.7 to 5.0 today. It didn't seem too hard to just look in /sbin /usr/sbin /bin /usr/bin to find things that weren't dated with today's date and delete them. The only stuff that wouldn't have been dated today after a build/install world would have been old leftovers from 4.7. Perhaps that was a bit foolhardy, but so far all is well. thats for sure one way, but deleting by date could maybe let some stuff back. a touch on any file egardless the reason of it would cause the date to change too. so a list of files which are to remove would be fine. then there would be the possibility of making a script which deletes the files and the updated system would be clean. i think i will make a diff of the trees 4.7 and 5.0 and then a script of it. but as more people upgrade the question will come up very often i think or it will cause lot of troubles with perl when letting the 4.x stuff on the box. Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away in multi user mode. any chance this works? I did learn one important thing... when the UPDATING doc says to install the new kernel, then RE-boot into single user mode to install world, it means it. Just dropping to single user mode without a reboot was not enough. The installworld refuses to work unless you're actually booted on the new kernel. And I would highly doubt, that after installing the new kernel but having the old world that you could boot into anything BUT single user mode. i havnt tried till now. have you included the COMPAT 4 option in the kernel to still be able to run the 4.x binaries? i succussfull build 5.0 on a box running 4.7. till now (except the a.ot - elf update) it always worked in multiuser mode too. sometimes after the first rebbot a second installworld was neccecary but it worked. but i will try today if installword lets me do it and then post the result. i only dont want to travel thousends of km to boxes to do a installworld. -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Karl M. Joch To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
