Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:29:29 -0500 Joshua Isom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso that contains just enough to install? That's something I've been thinking about. These days I don't use CDs for anything other than than creating live disks, and installation disks, and once my stock runs out I don't really want to buy any more. Is it possible to burn a bootable CD ISO image to a DVD-R? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Monday 17 March 2008 08:15:25 am RW wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:29:29 -0500 Joshua Isom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso that contains just enough to install? That's something I've been thinking about. These days I don't use CDs for anything other than than creating live disks, and installation disks, and once my stock runs out I don't really want to buy any more. Is it possible to burn a bootable CD ISO image to a DVD-R? Yes. It souldn't matter what media you use, there's nothing special about an OS iso for a dvd, other than it's bigger than what will fit on a cd. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:35:58PM +0100, Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote: I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. If you have enough of a net connection to download everything to put on a DVD, then you probably have enough net connection to just install over the net and thus only need CD disk1 and not the rest.So, a DVD is not really necessary and people have other work to do. But, if your comfort is improved by having a DVD setting around, then just download the CD ISOs as someone has suggested and build your own DVD image from them and burn it. Of go to BSD Mall or one of the other places that sell them and buy one. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
me too. but download all CD's, copy all of them to one place, perform cd directory_where_you_copied_things mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -R -o /path_to_DVD_image . then record DVD image On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote: I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
Miguel Mayol i Tur said: I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD installer. If everyone is so intent on using the latest and greatest, why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than using ports? Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB DVD. Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall. -- Glen Barber (570)328-0318 http://www.dev-urandom.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote: I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. http://www.tuxdistro.com/download.php?id=921name=FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE-DVD-ISO.torrent ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On 16/03/2008, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. How many iterations of: I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee install? Then again, who ever listened to all 16 tracks of their (First Pressing!) Japanese ...baby one more time? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:20:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/03/2008, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. How many iterations of: I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee install? It's not iteratitive, but recursive, since the next time they only download 1, (pardon the amnesiacs). :) (I know, I'm an optimist) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: On Sunday ١٦ March ٢٠٠٨ ٢١:٠٣:٢٧ Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-٦.٢-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that ٨٠% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso that contains just enough to install? Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, and good to go. Anyway, odds are the OP wants to try out PCBSD instead of FreeBSD. I don't see much purpose in home use live cd's if you don't want a desktop environment. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Sunday 16 March 2008 22:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote: On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: On Sunday ١٦ March ٢٠٠٨ ٢١:٠٣:٢٧ Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-٦.٢-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that ٨٠% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso that contains just enough to install? Unless there's DVD drives out there that can't mount cd's (which would surprise me since DVD's use iso9660 file system), there's no reason to make a 700MB dvd image. Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, and good to go. Cause a gzipped ports tree requires less resources then a csup'd one, for one and because you may want to get the gateway you're building on site to have some decent firewall rules before going up the big scary net. Install disks have their use and binary installs are faster all around, but there's limits to convenience and having all binary packages on disk, most of which are obsolete within weeks, majority of which you'll never use (17k+ ports atm) certainly is one of them. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote: On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: On Sunday ١٦ March ٢٠٠٨ ٢١:٠٣:٢٧ Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-٦.٢-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that ٨٠% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso that contains just enough to install? Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, and good to go. Sorry - FreeBSD is - you have been able to install FreeBSD from the mini dist (I and floppies used to work) for a long long time. Personally I would like to have the option of a DVD - but that is mainly because I would like it as a backup of /usr/local ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
Same for me I have never uploaded the CD2 and 3. Ok, maybe once long time ago when I was young and the FreeBSD version was 4.xx. I install the os from the CD1 and then I install everything I need from ports. -fred- On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Glen Barber wrote: Miguel Mayol i Tur said: I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD installer. If everyone is so intent on using the latest and greatest, why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than using ports? Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB DVD. Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall. -- Glen Barber (570)328-0318 http://www.dev-urandom.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/03/2008, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. How many iterations of: I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee install? Ok you do that maybe once or twice but you quickly understand that you don't really need the CD2 and CD3. Also some people like to collect. They have shelves with all the releases from from Unix V3, but I am sure this is not the majority. Save the bandwith! -fred- -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
