RE: XFree86 configuration

2004-01-13 Thread n.bulthuis
I always configure X with the xf86config program. Might be a bit basic, but it gets 
the job done. 

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Subject: XFree86 configuration

   Hello everyone,
   I just installed FreeBSD 4.9, and when I try to
cofigure X through sysinstall it gives an error
message in the end. The messege says that an error has
ocurred and asks if I want to try again. I tried
several times and then gave up.
   What I want to know is if there is any way that I
can know what went wrong so that I can do it right.
The error message does not give any clue as to what
hapened.
   Thanks in advance for taking time to read this
message and for a possible reply.

   Paulo de Carvalho.

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Re: XFree86 configuration

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 02:31 am, Carvalho Paulo wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just installed FreeBSD 4.9, and when I try to
 cofigure X through sysinstall it gives an error
 message in the end. The messege says that an error has
 ocurred and asks if I want to try again. I tried
 several times and then gave up.
What I want to know is if there is any way that I
 can know what went wrong so that I can do it right.
 The error message does not give any clue as to what
 hapened.
Thanks in advance for taking time to read this
 message and for a possible reply.

Paulo de Carvalho.

I stopped using the X configuration utilities in favor of 'XFree86 -configure' 
to let XFree86 make its best guess at my hardware.  It creates a 
configuration file under /root/ for review and modification.  There are 
directions at:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: XFree86 configuration process

2003-09-22 Thread C. Ulrich
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 06:28, Fredrik Carlén wrote:
 Hello! I would like one of two things (inclusive OR, down below!):
 - A pointer such as an URL to a resource where the details of the X server
 and configuration is explained in an understandable way,
 
 Or
 
 - An explanation as to how to use the xf86cfg tool so the end product is a
 usable graphic interface.
 
 I have installed FreeBSD now for about 5 years on different machines, and
 I find that later it has become increasingly difficult to configurate X.
 For me, it's more or less a trial-and-error process (if this doesn't work,
 then does *this*?, etc...) I admit that I don't understand X very well. I
 don't see why I would have to, either. 

Unfortunately, knowing how XFree86 works is still pretty much required
knowledge for anybody setting up a UNIXish machine. Rather than mess
with fussy GUI configuration apps (which have almost never worked for
me), I highly recommend learning the XF86Config so you can simply modify
it by hand. There are good references all around that explain in detail
the format of XF86Config that can be found for free on the net or bought
in dead-tree format. The good news is that the XF86Config file isn't
terribly difficult to understand once you've got the hang of it. Your
best bet is to take a generic XF86Config file that shipped with the OS
(or have a fancy GUI configuration tool create one) and then hack that
one by hand until everything works.

 Now, I $ startx and, fine, my fluxbox Window Mangler came up once. Then
  it didn't want to start. *When* it started, I had 1600xSomething in
 screen resolution. *Not* what I wanted...I don't know, I am about to give
 up in favour maybe of something as pusillanimous as Red Hat :)
 
 /Fredrik Carlén, Stockholm, Sweden.

Sounds like you've got some additional issues with your system. However,
simply swithing to another OS isn't likely to solve all of your problems
since Red Hat and other mainstream Linux distros use XFree86 too. If you
go to another OS, do so because you want a different feature set than
FreeBSD provides (such as ease of setup) rather than because you can't
get XFree86 to work.

Whatever path you take, good luck!

C. Ulrich
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Re: XFree86 configuration process

2003-09-22 Thread C. Ulrich
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 06:28, Fredrik Carlén wrote:
 Hello! I would like one of two things (inclusive OR, down below!):
 - A pointer such as an URL to a resource where the details of the X server
 and configuration is explained in an understandable way,
 
 Or
 
 - An explanation as to how to use the xf86cfg tool so the end product is a
 usable graphic interface.
 
 I have installed FreeBSD now for about 5 years on different machines, and
 I find that later it has become increasingly difficult to configurate X.
 For me, it's more or less a trial-and-error process (if this doesn't work,
 then does *this*?, etc...) I admit that I don't understand X very well. I
 don't see why I would have to, either. 

Unfortunately, knowing how XFree86 works is still pretty much required
knowledge for anybody setting up a UNIXish machine. Rather than mess
with fussy GUI configuration apps (which have almost never worked for
me), I highly recommend learning the XF86Config so you can simply modify
it by hand. There are good references all around that explain in detail
the format of XF86Config that can be found for free on the net or bought
in dead-tree format. The good news is that the XF86Config file isn't
terribly difficult to understand once you've got the hang of it. Your
best bet is to take a generic XF86Config file that shipped with the OS
(or have a fancy GUI configuration tool create one) and then hack that
one by hand until everything works.

 Now, I $ startx and, fine, my fluxbox Window Mangler came up once. Then
  it didn't want to start. *When* it started, I had 1600xSomething in
 screen resolution. *Not* what I wanted...I don't know, I am about to give
 up in favour maybe of something as pusillanimous as Red Hat :)
 
 /Fredrik Carlén, Stockholm, Sweden.

Sounds like you've got some additional issues with your system. However,
simply swithing to another OS isn't likely to solve all of your problems
since Red Hat and other mainstream Linux distros use XFree86 too. If you
go to another OS, do so because you want a different feature set than
FreeBSD provides (such as ease of setup) rather than because you can't
get XFree86 to work.

Whatever path you take, good luck!

C. Ulrich
-- 
http://bityard.net

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Re: XFree86 Configuration

2003-09-08 Thread David Fleck
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Gavin Hubbard wrote:
 In section 5.4.2 it says to run XFree86 -configure as root to build the
 initial configuration. Unfortunately this command has completely locked up
 the system's primary console and I am unable to switch to a virtual terminal
 to kill the offending process.

 First of all, what has gone wrong? (my framebuffer is supported by
 XFree86-4). Second, how do I break out of the crashed console? Is there a
 magic key combination I can use? The system seems to be alive (it responds
 to pings) but I have not enabled telnet/ssh or any other remote admin tools.

Umm, I can't offer much help, but I found that my system behaved in the
exact same manner when I installed XFree86 4.3.  It works fine, however,
with XFree86 4.2.0 and 4.2.1.  It seems to be a problem with the
video card driver recognizing the chipset correctly.  Since I could get it
to work with 4.2.x, I didn't bother investigating further.

What's your video card?  Mine is an ATI Radeon 7500.  I've looked at
www.xfree86.org, but haven't seen any indication that this has been
reported as a problem.

As far as recovering control of the system, I think you may have to
power-cycle it.


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Re: XFree86 configuration

2003-02-04 Thread David Larkin
4 days of XFree86 hell and still no further forward 

I have tried

# XFree86 -configure

this appears to recognise my graphics card and creates a file
/root/XF86Config.new

when I try

# XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new

a low resolution grey grid with an X mouse cursor appears and the cursor
moves with the mouse,
but when I move the file to /etc/X11/XF86Config. startx fails.

I checked the Monitor  HorizSync  VertRefresh and they were the same
values as on a 4.2 machine I have which works with the same monitor, i.e.

HorizSync31.5-57
VertRefresh  50-90

As suggested in
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

I tried

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1024x768
EndSubSection
EndSection

startx complains

(EE) VGA(0) Can't support depth 24

changing to depth 16 results in

FAtal server error:
Addscreen/Screeninit failed for driver 0

and generates a log file shown below.


changing to depth 8 gives no error message, simply

waiting for X  server to shut down

but X does not appear

it generates log file shown below

Below are 3 files
1. XF86Config
2. XFree86.0.log using 16 bit
3. XFree86.0.log using 8 bit

Any advice on where to go from here would be most gratefully recieved.

Thanks
David


1. XF86Config
==
Section ServerLayout
 Identifier XFree86 Configured
 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
 RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
 ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
 Load  dbe
 Load  dri
 Load  extmod
 Load  glx
 Load  pex5
 Load  record
 Load  xie
 Load  xtrap
 Load  speedo
 Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  keyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 Option Protocol MouseSystems
 Option Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
 Identifier   Monitor0
 VendorName   Monitor Vendor
 ModelNameMonitor Model
 HorizSync 31.5-57
 VertRefresh   50-90
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option ShadowFB# [bool]
#Option VGAClocks   # [bool]
 Identifier  Card0
 Driver  vga
 VendorName  SiS
 BoardName   630
 BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device Card0
 MonitorMonitor0
 DefaultDepth 8
 SubSection Display
  Depth 8
  Modes 1024x768
 EndSubSection
EndSection


2. XFree86.0.log using 16 bit
==
XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 3 September 2002
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
 newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
 reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Feb  4 19:17:59 2003
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(==) ServerLayout XFree86 Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Card0
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(II) Module ABI versions:
 XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
 compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0
 Module 

Re: XFree86 configuration

2003-02-03 Thread David Larkin
Wiroth Didier wrote:

 On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:35:14 +
  David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just installed 4.7 on a new machine and all seems well
  except the XFree86 is only working on the default VGA
  mode.
 What previous step did you make, or what have you done
 here?
 Did you type: startx

I use 'xdm'



 
  Configuring X is a complete nightmare, am I missing
  something ?
 
  I haven't a clue what sync rates my monitor has and have
  no manual for it.,
 Have a look here:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html
 
  also I intend moving the server to a new office where it
  will be attached
  to
  a different monitor.
 
  I've tried selecting various options from the various
  menus but all
  that happens is my screen blinks and I have to reboot and
  try again
  with the same result.

 BE AWARE THAT A BAD CONFIGURED XF86Config CAN KILL YOUR
 MONITOR!!


I'm happy to take my chances, it's a $50 monitor holding up up a $1000s
job


 
  Apart from the fact it doesn't work, does it generate an
  error log
  somewhere
  so I can try and work out the problem ?
 Yes, /var/log/XFree86.0.log

Thanks this helps a bit



 
  Is there no standard config which would allow something
   better than
  VGA. I don't need to squeeze the last drop of performance
  out of the
  monitor/graphics card, just get something useable up and
  running.
 1) You will need to know what Montior Model it is!
 Find out the exact modell and look at google for the
 specifications of your monitor, you will need the
 Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates!

It is a LITE ON CM-1769MCLR but I can find no details about it.
It says 50-60Hz on the back but not sure what that refers to

BEsides, I think the problem is with graphics card not monitor



 2) You will also need information about your graphic
 adapter (or if your are lucky XFfree86 -configure) will
 auto-detect the chip


I'm informed that the graphics is SIS 630/730

dmesg reports ..

pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x1039, dev=0x7018) at 1.4 irq 11
pcib2: PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1039 device=0001) at device 2.0 on
pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib2
pci1: SiS model 6300 VGA-compatible display device at 0.0
pcib1: SiS 5591 host to AGP bridge on motherboard
pci2: PCI bus on pcib1


The XFree86 setup gives me a choice between

SIS 300
SiS 540
SiS 540
Sis 5597
SiS 630 (SIS530)
SiS 630 (SIS630)
SiS SIS6326

I think I've tried them all, SiS 630 (SIS630) reports

(II) Module mouse: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.3
(II) SIS: driver for SiS chipsets: SIS5597, SIS530, SIS6326, SIS300,
SIS630, SIS540
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(WW) SIS: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0)
found
(EE) No devices detected.

the screen fliers briefly and then nothing



 
  I've been installing  using FreeBSD for about 6 years
  now and have
  never gained any confidence in installing X, it either
  works or it doesn't.

  This must put off loads of potential users , particularly
  those such as
  myself
  who don't know (or much care) about what chipsets  stuff
  they have.

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Re: XFree86 configuration

2003-01-31 Thread Wiroth Didier
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:35:14 +
 David Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just installed 4.7 on a new machine and all seems well
 except the XFree86 is only working on the default VGA
 mode.
What previous step did you make, or what have you done
here?
Did you type: startx

 
 Configuring X is a complete nightmare, am I missing
 something ?
 
 I haven't a clue what sync rates my monitor has and have
 no manual for it.,
Have a look here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html
 
 also I intend moving the server to a new office where it
 will be attached
 to
 a different monitor.
 
 I've tried selecting various options from the various
 menus but all
 that happens is my screen blinks and I have to reboot and
 try again
 with the same result.

BE AWARE THAT A BAD CONFIGURED XF86Config CAN KILL YOUR
MONITOR!!

 
 Apart from the fact it doesn't work, does it generate an
 error log
 somewhere
 so I can try and work out the problem ?
Yes, /var/log/XFree86.0.log

 
 Is there no standard config which would allow something
  better than
 VGA. I don't need to squeeze the last drop of performance
 out of the
 monitor/graphics card, just get something useable up and
 running.
1) You will need to know what Montior Model it is!
Find out the exact modell and look at google for the
specifications of your monitor, you will need the
Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates!

2) You will also need information about your graphic
adapter (or if your are lucky XFfree86 -configure) will
auto-detect the chip

 
 I've been installing  using FreeBSD for about 6 years
 now and have
 never gained any confidence in installing X, it either
 works or it doesn't.
 
 This must put off loads of potential users , particularly
 those such as
 myself
 who don't know (or much care) about what chipsets  stuff
 they have.


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