RE: Remote X from another BSD Box
On Wednesday, 19 March 2003 at 22:06:45 -0500, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? The most obvious way of doing this is to start an xterm on the FreeBSD server: xterm -display freebsd:0.0 There is also an other way via xdm. But for this to work you need to uncomment the last line in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config. You will also want to make sure your kernel contians the line options XSERVER (no quotes). For this to work, you should: 1. On the FreeBSD box, modify /usr/X11R6/bin/startx. Change the line listen_tcp=-nolisten tcp to listen_tcp= Not sure that this is needed, I have never changed it. However I share x-windows using XDM. 2. Also on the FreeBSD box, run xhost: xhost openbsd Guessing that xhost is kind of like the configurations of an X server. This applies to any other X application as well, of course. If you enable xdm (X Display Manager) X-Windows will become an X-Server for every computer on your network. Other people know of some ways to limit this functionallity by modify which hosts your machine will listen on. And With XDM running on a server you connect to it via: From a UNIX box: X -query other.freebsd.box Or: X -broadcast Asks for any display server that is running a display manager. A list is generated on your client. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Remote X from another BSD Box
On Friday, 21 March 2003 at 4:02:53 -0800, Aaron Burke wrote: On Wednesday, 19 March 2003 at 22:06:45 -0500, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? The most obvious way of doing this is to start an xterm on the FreeBSD server: xterm -display freebsd:0.0 There is also an other way via xdm. But for this to work you need to uncomment the last line in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config. This is dangerous advice. It's possible for this file to change, and the last line to become something different. In the default file on my system (4.1.0), it's not commented out. You should describe exactly what configuration change to make. You will also want to make sure your kernel contians the line options XSERVER (no quotes). You don't need either of these to run xdm. For this to work, you should: 1. On the FreeBSD box, modify /usr/X11R6/bin/startx. Change the line listen_tcp=-nolisten tcp to listen_tcp= Not sure that this is needed, I have never changed it. However I share x-windows using XDM. If you start X from startx, and you want to connect from another machine, this is absolutely necessary. The default changed a couple of years ago, and it caused a lot of pain. 2. Also on the FreeBSD box, run xhost: xhost openbsd Guessing that xhost is kind of like the configurations of an X server. Don't guess, check. There's a man page: NAME xhost - server access control program for X It's nothing like configuring an X server. This applies to any other X application as well, of course. If you enable xdm (X Display Manager) X-Windows will become an X-Server for every computer on your network. Well, no, it remains a display manager. And who can access it depends on how you set up your access control in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess. By default, only the local system can access the display manager. That's as it should be. Other people know of some ways to limit this functionallity by modify which hosts your machine will listen on. You edit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xaccess. Running xdm still seems to be the less popular way to run X. I personally haven't seen any need for it. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Remote X from another BSD Box
Hi, sorry I missed the beginning of this thread, so I jump in between. Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? You probably want to look at the -x and -X options of ssh and make sure the sshd on your FreeBSD box is configured to allow X tunneling. Ciao Siegbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Remote X from another BSD Box
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Brian McCann wrote: Thanks guys, -X worked great! KDE on my Sun box now. :) Now all I need is a non-optical Sun mouse, and to try NetBSD so I can use SMP. :) --Brian Just to throw in some 0.01 ยค : If you can spare some time, have a look at /usr/ports/vnc . You can not only access X-Servers on different UN*X platforms, but also Windows machines via any JAVA capable Browser. Regards and sorry for interfering, Uli. -Original Message- From: Tim Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:40 PM To: Brian McCann Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Remote X from another BSD Box On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0500, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Connect with something like: openbsd.box% ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then just start your favourite X applications, and they will display on the OpenBSD machine like you want. If that doesn't work, add '-v' to the ssh options to see what goes wrong. HTH, -tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message +---+ |Peter Ulrich Kruppa| | - Wuppertal - | | Germany | +---+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Remote X from another BSD Box
On Wednesday, 19 March 2003 at 22:06:45 -0500, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? The most obvious way of doing this is to start an xterm on the FreeBSD server: xterm -display freebsd:0.0 For this to work, you should: 1. On the FreeBSD box, modify /usr/X11R6/bin/startx. Change the line listen_tcp=-nolisten tcp to listen_tcp= 2. Also on the FreeBSD box, run xhost: xhost openbsd This applies to any other X application as well, of course. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Remote X from another BSD Box
Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Remote X from another BSD Box
Are you setting your DISPLAY variable? for example: bash export $DISPLAY=(the IP address of the Open BSD box):0.0 or for the (t)csh setenv DISPLAY (the IP address of the Open BSD box):0.0 where the :0.0 part is the number of the X display on your OpenBSD box Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:06 pm, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Remote X from another BSD Box
Ok...I think I have a partial lack of understanding of how the display numbers work. I tried 0.0, and it said the connection was refused, followed by no protocol specified. I also tried 0.2 on a longshot. BTW, I'm running these commands from an xterm windowif that helps/matters. --Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kellers Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:15 PM To: Brian McCann; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Remote X from another BSD Box Are you setting your DISPLAY variable? for example: bash export $DISPLAY=(the IP address of the Open BSD box):0.0 or for the (t)csh setenv DISPLAY (the IP address of the Open BSD box):0.0 where the :0.0 part is the number of the X display on your OpenBSD box Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:06 pm, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Remote X from another BSD Box
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I realized I made a couple of assumptions. First, the below mentions commands have to be issued on the FreeBSD box after you ssh to it from the Open BSD box, and second, you may be required to issue the xhost [the ip address of the FreeBSD box] on the Openbsd box before sshing to the FreeBSD box, to allow the Xserver on the OpenBSD box to allow X connections from the remote FreeBSD box. I'm not certain that OpenBSD requires the xhost option the same way that FreeBSD does, but given that OpenBSD has a more spartan security model than FreeBSD's own conservative implementation, an xhost command (or the OpenBSD equivalent) is likely to be needed. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:15 pm, Tim Kellers wrote: Are you setting your DISPLAY variable? for example: bash export $DISPLAY=(the IP address of the Open BSD box):0.0 or for the (t)csh setenv DISPLAY (the IP address of the Open BSD box):0.0 where the :0.0 part is the number of the X display on your OpenBSD box Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:06 pm, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Remote X from another BSD Box
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0500, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Connect with something like: openbsd.box% ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then just start your favourite X applications, and they will display on the OpenBSD machine like you want. If that doesn't work, add '-v' to the ssh options to see what goes wrong. HTH, -tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Remote X from another BSD Box
Thanks guys, -X worked great! KDE on my Sun box now. :) Now all I need is a non-optical Sun mouse, and to try NetBSD so I can use SMP. :) --Brian -Original Message- From: Tim Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:40 PM To: Brian McCann Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Remote X from another BSD Box On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0500, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I'd imagine this would be fairly simple since I got it to work from Xmanager for Windows...but I'm having difficulties. I have 2 boxes, both BSD (one FreeBSD, one OpenBSD). The FreeBSD box has a full blown install of X with KDE and all kinds of stuff, the OpenBSD just has a basic X installed with xdm. I'd like to be able to use the OpenBSD box as a display for the FreeBSD box. I thought I'd just be able to ssh into the FreeBSD box and run xmms, xcalc, xterm, whatever I wanted...but no dice. Can someone help me out? Connect with something like: openbsd.box% ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then just start your favourite X applications, and they will display on the OpenBSD machine like you want. If that doesn't work, add '-v' to the ssh options to see what goes wrong. HTH, -tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
