Re: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
On Tuesday, 17 August 2004 at 20:18:42 -0500, Sean Farley wrote: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Tuesday, 17 August 2004 at 11:13:17 -0500, Sean Farley wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: This mouse has five buttons: the normal three on top, and one on each side. I can't find a way to get the side buttons to work, and looking on the web hasn't shown anything of interest. I assume you mean in X as opposed to moused although moused appears to support at least five buttons according to its man page. No, this is with moused. It still needs to initialize the mouse. Will you be using moused on the console? No. It is not needed to run X. I know. Without a reason to change, I won't. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. Maybe you can find a cord-to-cordless converter--there is bound to be an engineer that has done this :)--if you find a mouse you like that just happens to have a tail. That would defeat the purpose of it being cordless. Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpH1mTRD7omC.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. I have a Logitech MX700. Very solid mouse, excellent performance and rechargable battery life. It can also run on standard alkalines (though you can't charge them). The mouse is heavier than most, but this seems to help with making smooth movements. The weight makes some of the more fervid in-game mouse maneuvers a bit tiresome on the wrist, though. It does integrate the middle button with the wheel. But there is hope! The force needed to press the wheel-button isn't much more than that of the right and left buttons. The return spring on the wheel housing can be easily removed. Doing so makes the return tension the same as the left and right buttons without affecting the wheel's functionality. It also has five additional buttons which are presented as separate buttons (6 through 10, in xf86config). They could be mapped to the middle button if you don't want to do surgery on your mouse. I've used the MX700 in 5.1 with XF86 4.3.x with great success. The only thing I couldn't get to work was the AppSwitch button, but I ended up never needing to use it anyway. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung Cordless Mouse
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: This mouse has five buttons: the normal three on top, and one on each side. I can't find a way to get the side buttons to work, and looking on the web hasn't shown anything of interest. I assume you mean in X as opposed to moused although moused appears to support at least five buttons according to its man page. This may help with your X issues: http://www.xfree86.org/current/mouse5.html#22 Sean --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
On Tuesday, 17 August 2004 at 11:13:17 -0500, Sean Farley wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: This mouse has five buttons: the normal three on top, and one on each side. I can't find a way to get the side buttons to work, and looking on the web hasn't shown anything of interest. I assume you mean in X as opposed to moused although moused appears to support at least five buttons according to its man page. No, this is with moused. It still needs to initialize the mouse. This may help with your X issues: http://www.xfree86.org/current/mouse5.html#22 Yes, been through all of that and more. Nothing worked. In the meantime I've connected it up anyway as a 3 button mouse and decided I really don't like it; the buttons are far too heavy in their action, and it's difficult to move it sideways without pressing one of the side buttons. So this is not much of an issue any more. Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp6pMg5Xe8gC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [BUGA] What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:58:16AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. I have a logitech wireless ball mouse. It is a bit old now but the thing functions fine. I solved the problem of the middle button being on the roller by buying a tiny push button switch from Dick Smith and mounting that as a thumb button. It was a relatively simple hardware hack to get a thumb button - because I prefer to use the mouse in my left hand my mousing options are rather limited. It sucks to be one of the superior minority ;) -- Brett Lymn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. Greg, Have you tried a trackball? I'm using a Logitech Marble Mouse, it has 4 buttons, I'm not sure if there's a three button version. Nice thing about a trackball is it stays where you park it, and I've felt much less writest strain lately... Ralph ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:28 pm, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. if you want three buttons PLUS a wheel ... ?? Otherwise, Logitech provide a very nice three-button mouse in either wired or wireless form. -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Brian Astill wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:28 pm, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. if you want three buttons PLUS a wheel ... ?? Otherwise, Logitech provide a very nice three-button mouse in either wired or wireless form. I have two three-button mice without wheels (one Logitech MouseMan and a Dell that is looks just like it) that I protect with my life. :) I like three buttons, but I dislike wheels. When I checked Logitech's website, I could not find any three-button mice without wheels. Did I miss it, or are you speaking of the wheeled mice? Sean --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Tuesday, 17 August 2004 at 11:13:17 -0500, Sean Farley wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: This mouse has five buttons: the normal three on top, and one on each side. I can't find a way to get the side buttons to work, and looking on the web hasn't shown anything of interest. I assume you mean in X as opposed to moused although moused appears to support at least five buttons according to its man page. No, this is with moused. It still needs to initialize the mouse. Will you be using moused on the console? It is not needed to run X. snip Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. I am not aware of any makers of three-button mice without wheels. However, I have always Logitech as a brand. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. Maybe you can find a cord-to-cordless converter--there is bound to be an engineer that has done this :)--if you find a mouse you like that just happens to have a tail. Sean --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What mouse? (was: Samsung Cordless Mouse)
it wad said: Can anybody recommend a good mouse? My criteria are: - Middle button easy to use. The current crop of mice has the middle button integrated with the roller, and that makes the middle button either heavy or easy to confuse with the roller. - Preferably cordless. Cord mice tend to wander a little when you let go of them, and that's a real nuisance on a high-resolution display. Hello, After a bit of googling, I'd say the choices are either true three-button _or_ cordless. Then there's the trackball route. I hate them, but my wife loves them. At home, I use a left-handed three-button serial testicle mouse from Logitech. At work (a Windows-only house) I use a left-handed true three-button with wheel and rocker switch USB optical mouse from Contour Design. I can live without the wheel, but I love my rocker switch because it effectively adds two buttons. So if being corded is less of a problem than the button/wheel issue, I would suggest checking out http://www.contourdesign.com/perfit-new.htm. The mouse is even available in different sizes. HTH, Stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Samsung Cordless Mouse
More by accident than by design, I find myself the owner of a Samsung PS/2 Cordless Mouse. To make identification easier, it doesn't have a model number, so I assume it's the only one they made. This mouse has five buttons: the normal three on top, and one on each side. I can't find a way to get the side buttons to work, and looking on the web hasn't shown anything of interest. I don't suppose anybody knows this mouse, though I'd be interested in hearing if somebody has. My real question is: how can I enable the side buttons? There's obviously some kind of initialization sequence that is performed by the Microsoft drivers included with the mouse, but how do I find out what they do? Is there some utility that runs under Microsoft and snoops what's going on on the PS/2 port? I know of something similar for USB, but so far I've drawn a blank for PS/2. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpNGSNdL8OYy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Samsung Cordless Mouse
In the immortal words of Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED]... More by accident than by design, I find myself the owner of a Samsung PS/2 Cordless Mouse. To make identification easier, it doesn't have a model number, so I assume it's the only one they made. I've come across one of these myself recently, interesting, but practically useless. This mouse has five buttons: the normal three on top, and one on each side. I can't find a way to get the side buttons to work, and looking on the web hasn't shown anything of interest. There are several models and manufacturers of this kind of rodent. You might want to experiment with it in X (man xev is a good place to start), but a simple solution is to see what it's detected as when the system boots up. I don't suppose anybody knows this mouse, though I'd be interested in hearing if somebody has. My real question is: how can I enable the side buttons? There's obviously some kind of initialization sequence that is performed by the Microsoft drivers included with the mouse, but how do I find out what they do? Is there some utility that runs under Microsoft and snoops what's going on on the PS/2 port? I know of something similar for USB, but so far I've drawn a blank for PS/2. The buttons are probably already enabled, but you might need to mess with some X resources to make them do anything useful. Also, try something like Option Buttons 5 int the /etc/X11/XF86Config file When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html I'd like to but I don't have control over my upstream providers DNS or mail settings so your mail server rejects anything I send and there's not a lot I can do about it. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
