Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Jun 26, 2009 7:32am, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. Daniel, I wanted to ask, but neglected to until now, did you install from the DVD or the network? Also, did you install for FreeBSD (pre-compiled binaries), or did you install Linux binaries? Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install
I wanted to ask, but neglected to until now, did you install from the DVD or the network? Also, did you install for FreeBSD (pre-compiled binaries), or I initially tried the network installation, but there are so many packages/files to retrieve that I quit and went for the DVD install. I recommend just downloading the DVD image; I believe it's compressed with lzma2, which means the total data transfer should be much smaller. I installed the linux (or platform-independent) version. Works perfectly for me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 01:14:55AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:32:31 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Ere I am, J. H., the ghost in the machine. :-) I've never tried TeXLive, I have to admit, because I NEVER had ANY problem using the teTeX package. And yes, I don't build it from source because pkg_add -r is so much comfortable. TeXLive now has FreeBSD binary packages (i386 amd64) as well. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. It would be nice to hear what - in such a case - has been the problem with teTeX that TeXLive then solved. As I said, I never found myself in such a situation, and I'm using LaTeX for nearly everything. There are a lot of things that TeXLive has that teTeX doesn't; - latin modern fonts [http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern] - tex gyre fonts [http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/] Both of these font families have a much greater range of diacretical markers available. And they look very good. Latin Modern is an expanded and improved version of Computer Modern. Both families are written as OpenType fonts. - XeTeX [http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiitem_id=xetex] Better support for typesetting in non-european languages. - LuaTeX [http://www.luatex.org/] Integration of the Lua scripting language into TeX. This will make TeX more powerfull, and the writing of macro packages easier. - conTeXt [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConTeXt] - more recent releases, with updated macro packages. - more macro packages available and integrated. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpQXtrlpCsTj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which latex should I install
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Subject: Re: Re: Which latex should I install
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?
No, but it's not necessary. Just go here
http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD
image.
well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together.
Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now.
The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact
been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with
the
basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a
TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving
rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro
packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt).
Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of
additional packages than teTeX.
So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with
FreeBSD binaries.
Look at the mailing list archives for threads called LaTeX oder
teTeX
in October 2007, and Installing latest version of LaTeX in June
2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get
TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change
login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally
TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so
it
won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the
installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing
TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive.
One thing to add here is that the ports tree remains tied to
teTeX. If you install TexLive (either from DVD or Romain's)
and then install a port like texmacs, lyx, texmaker, or auctex
to edit your files, you'll pull in teTeX as a dependency. You
end up with both teTeX and TeXLive installed. If someone knows
how to avoid the duplicity, please do chime in - I'm not a fan
of having both. I require TeXLive for the mathematics typesetting
I do.
Sincerely,
Pat
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Re: Which latex should I install
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 01:00:21AM -0500, Patrick Reich wrote: One thing to add here is that the ports tree remains tied to teTeX. If you install TexLive (either from DVD or Romain's) and then install a port like texmacs, lyx, texmaker, or auctex to edit your files, you'll pull in teTeX as a dependency. You end up with both teTeX and TeXLive installed. If someone knows how to avoid the duplicity, please do chime in - I'm not a fan of having both. I require TeXLive for the mathematics typesetting I do. What I do is change the Makefiles of the ports in question to remove the dependancies on teTeX. My way of doing that is creating a patch for the Makefile and re-applying that after each update of the ports tree. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpIrL00FWZT4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which latex should I install
Patrick Reich rei...@austin.rr.com writes: One thing to add here is that the ports tree remains tied to teTeX. If you install TexLive (either from DVD or Romain's) and then install a port like texmacs, lyx, texmaker, or auctex to edit your files, you'll pull in teTeX as a dependency. You end up with both teTeX and TeXLive installed. If someone knows how to avoid the duplicity, please do chime in Hi Patrick, Just to say that duplicity usually means something like deceitful and dishonest behaviour - duplication is what you want to avoid! I only mention it because this is a slip that could get you into serious trouble in the wrong context!! :-) You are right about the ports tree and my way round this has been to edit the relevant port Makefie and simply remove the dependency under BUILD_DEPENDS, LIB_DEPENDS and RUN_DEPENDS. Most things then find TeXLive and build themselves nicely after that. There may be an automated way of doing this but I haven't found it yet. atb Glyn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
I recently went through the ropes of installing latex on my FreeBSD machine. You may the discussion I had helpful. See # 256 and below, from here: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Jun 26, 2009 6:41am, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: I recently went through the ropes of installing latex on my FreeBSD machine. You may the discussion I had helpful. See # 256 and below, from here: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions.html Thanks for the link to the previous discussion. So, should I use the TeXLive or teTeX given by Polytropon? Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
2009/6/26 Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? There is... but not an official one. Romain Tartière made a special form of ports tree, to be integrated with the 'official' tree for TeXLive. It's found at http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/wiki/Installing I'm supposed to be doing work on it involving porting LyX... but I'm committed to other stuff at the moment too :( Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
There is... but not an official one. Romain Tartière made a special form of ports tree, to be integrated with the 'official' tree for TeXLive. I didn't know that. I've had no problems with the generic version though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive? No, but it's not necessary. Just go here http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD image. well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together. Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?
No, but it's not necessary. Just go here
http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD image.
well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together.
Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now.
The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact
been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with the
basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a
TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving
rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro
packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt).
Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of
additional packages than teTeX.
So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with
FreeBSD binaries.
Look at the mailing list archives for threads called LaTeX oder teTeX
in October 2007, and Installing latest version of LaTeX in June
2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get
TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change
login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally
TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so it
won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the
installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing
TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive.
Roland
--
R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/
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Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install
On Jun 26, 2009 10:40am, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:27:51PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:21:37AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
Is there a FBSD port of TeXLive?
No, but it's not necessary. Just go here
http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire.html and download the DVD image.
well.. I'll wait for some kind sole to put a texlive port together.
Tetex port has been enough for me for some years now.
The thing is that teTeX hasn't been updated in years. It has in fact
been deprecated in favor of TeXLive. This is not a big problem with the
basic TeX engine, because that doesn't change that much. But pdfTeX (a
TeX that generates PDF output instead of DVI) has been evolving
rapidly. And you'll miss out on several years of updates of the macro
packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt).
Another consideration is that TeXLive contains a much larger choice of
additional packages than teTeX.
So I would advise you to install TeXLive. The latest DVD comes with
FreeBSD binaries.
Look at the mailing list archives for threads called LaTeX oder teTeX
in October 2007, and Installing latest version of LaTeX in June
2009. In those threads I've posted some instructions on how to get
TeXLive to work. Installation is pretty easy, but you have to change
login.conf and manpath.conf to use the binaries and manpages. Normally
TeXLive keeps everything under its own tree (/usr/local/texlive), so it
won't mess up the trees /usr/local/{bin,share,...}. Do _not_ tell the
installer to put symbolic links in /usr/local/bin! That way removing
TeXLive is as easy as removing /usr/local/texlive.
Roland
Thanks Roland. Looks like TeXLive it is.
Andy
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Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:32:31 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Ere I am, J. H., the ghost in the machine. :-) I've never tried TeXLive, I have to admit, because I NEVER had ANY problem using the teTeX package. And yes, I don't build it from source because pkg_add -r is so much comfortable. There are some tools that are a good put aside for teTeX, such as xpdf (which brings also pdftotext), and gv, dvitty, xdvi. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. It would be nice to hear what - in such a case - has been the problem with teTeX that TeXLive then solved. As I said, I never found myself in such a situation, and I'm using LaTeX for nearly everything. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
Polytropon, here is the problem I was having: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2351398+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions Granted, that's not much to go on :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:53:46 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Polytropon, here is the problem I was having: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2351398+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions Granted, that's not much to go on :) Ah, I see, the famous xcolor package. Okay, I have to admit that I never used it before, so no problem for teTeX from the ports. Until now, I was fine with usepackage(color) and usepackage(colortbl), then rowcolor, columncolor and cellcolor, and finally colorbox. Seems that I am not a color-power-user. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Which latex should I install
Hi, Just today I found the marvel of LaTeX while looking over a quick how-to for LaTeX. I was using a Linux system at work and would like to install it on my FreeBSD system at home since I've been looking for something like this for exchanging math questions I have with a friend who's helping me understand mathematics as I pursue my degree. LaTeX is just what I've been looking for. However, when I went to find the port by doing make search name=latex I was returned so many hits, frankly, I'm overwhelmed. What do I need to install from ports to get the LaTeX language on my system, show the markup using the native DVI and more importantly, write pdf file from the markup? The tutorial I was going off of was using something called pdftex I think, but not sure. I sent myself a link to the tutorial so I wouldn't have to remember. Oh, it should be obvious, but what do I need to make sure of so that I've got all of the math rendering capability at my fingertips? There's just so much there. Obviously, LaTeX is much more than I thought it was. I'm looking forward to understanding it more. Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:38:00 +, af300...@gmail.com wrote: for LaTeX. I was using a Linux system at work and would like to install it on my FreeBSD system at home since I've been looking for something like this for exchanging math questions I have with a friend who's helping me understand mathematics as I pursue my degree. LaTeX is just what I've been looking for. However, when I went to find the port by doing make search name=latex I was returned so many hits, frankly, I'm overwhelmed. What do I need to install from ports to get the LaTeX language on my system, show the markup using the native DVI and more importantly, write pdf file from the markup? The easiest way is to install teTeX via package. # pkg_add -r teTeX You can then use latex and pdflatex commands from your tex source files. The tutorial I was going off of was using something called pdftex I think, but not sure. tex - latex == pdftex - pdflatex. :-) There's just so much there. Obviously, LaTeX is much more than I thought it was. I'm looking forward to understanding it more. LaTeX is a professional typesetting system which can be (ab)used to do everything imaginable. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
Hi, Just today I found the marvel of LaTeX while looking over a quick how-to for LaTeX. Congratulation brother, you've seen the light :)) Now for you technical questions, Polytropon has replied. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
