Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

martinko wrote:

Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
  

martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
trigger this. very annoying.
  

Here's an entry in Novell's bugzilla for a similar issue in Linux:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144682

I believe the information is equally applicable to FreeBSD.  To
translate and summarize, ums(4) needs to learn to distinguish between
IntelliMouse and IntelliMouse Explorer, becaue they have slightly
different protocols; moused(8) already knows about this and handles it
correctly, but only for PS/2 mice.

DES



DES,

i'm not quite sure this is the source of my issue as i have no an
intellimouse (pls see my original message).

m.
  

DES,
   Not sure if this issue has been worked out yet on your end, but if 
you're speaking strictly of firefox you can open up a browser window, 
type in about:config in the browser location bar, then type in "middle" 
for your filter, find the option that says loadContentURL and set it to 
false. It's an annoying setting for all X11 people (since middle mouse 
button stuff is devoted as pasting for some odd reason), but I guess 
that was thought to be a useful option by the Mozilla people for some 
odd reason. Turning it off will disable the seemingly random google 
searching/url loading.
   Also, the ZAxismapping thing helps define layout for the mouse 
buttons. Depending on what order you choose, your behavior of your mouse 
will differ. Loading up xev will help you "catch" events for your mouse 
and determine what button is what on your intellimouse, then properly 
map the buttons to match any desired behavior you have. For instance, I 
have a 5 button intellimouse right now and the button mapping in Gentoo 
for ZAxisMapping is "4 5"; however, when I did have a 7 button 
intellimouse, the AFAIK the line was for ZAxisMapping was "6 7 4 5". The 
protocol used in xorg.conf for both cases is "ExplorerPS/2", because the 
other protocol mappings did not work as well for me for some odd reason. 
These ZAxisMapping settings combined with xmodmap and the imwheel 
daemon, a third-party program for capturing mouse events (which is only 
required in Linux and not FreeBSD IIRC), allows me to use the forward 
and back buttons in firefox and thunderbird, which is all of the 
functionality that I really want with my extra mouse buttons.
   There are plenty of documents out there to help you configure your 
intellimouse, mostly in the Gentoo world because it seems like more of 
that crowd has had problems with setting up their intellimice ;). Please 
note that not all items in howtos and help documents will apply to 
FreeBSD if you look at Gentoo items though...

   HTH,
-Garrett
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Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-16 Thread martinko
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
>> instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
>> trigger this. very annoying.
> 
> Here's an entry in Novell's bugzilla for a similar issue in Linux:
> 
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144682
> 
> I believe the information is equally applicable to FreeBSD.  To
> translate and summarize, ums(4) needs to learn to distinguish between
> IntelliMouse and IntelliMouse Explorer, becaue they have slightly
> different protocols; moused(8) already knows about this and handles it
> correctly, but only for PS/2 mice.
> 
> DES

DES,

i'm not quite sure this is the source of my issue as i have no an
intellimouse (pls see my original message).

m.

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Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-13 Thread Robert Huff

Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= writes:

>  > if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
>  > instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
>  > trigger this. very annoying.
>  
>  Here's an entry in Novell's bugzilla for a similar issue in Linux:
>  
>  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144682
>  
>  I believe the information is equally applicable to FreeBSD.  To
>  translate and summarize, ums(4) needs to learn to distinguish
>  between IntelliMouse and IntelliMouse Explorer, becaue they have
>  slightly different protocols; moused(8) already knows about this
>  and handles it correctly, but only for PS/2 mice.

There may - I repeat, _may_ - be another complication.
Recently (after the first of the year, I think) MS brought out
a new (USB) IntelliMouse Explorer.  It looks more or less like the
old one, but works on a slightly different protocol.  Basic mouse
functions work under Windows ME with the old driver (the new driver
knows only XP); under Xorg 6.9 some things are off by just a little
bit.  For example: trying to grab the corner of a window to resize
it, I'm frequently presented with a window manager (fvwm2) menu.
If, however, I grab about one-sixteenth of an inch above the corner
suddenly the resize works.


Robert Huff

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Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-13 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
> instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
> trigger this. very annoying.

Here's an entry in Novell's bugzilla for a similar issue in Linux:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144682

I believe the information is equally applicable to FreeBSD.  To
translate and summarize, ums(4) needs to learn to distinguish between
IntelliMouse and IntelliMouse Explorer, becaue they have slightly
different protocols; moused(8) already knows about this and handles it
correctly, but only for PS/2 mice.

DES
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Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey

martinko wrote:

Robert Huff wrote:

martinko writes:


 i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the
 following issue:

I have had this:


 if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
 instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
 trigger this. very annoying.






robert, i'm not sure i got it.
do your options fix the issue pls?



I had some problem very recently that sounds similar.

I came to the conclusion that xorg wasn't playing
nice with moused(8), which I run for console use.

Killing moused before entering a X session is
my current workaround.  I need to find time to look
into it more, but 

May or may not be the same issue; I wholeheartedly
agree with 'very annoying', though!

KDK


and, as i couldn't find them in xorg.conf(5), what do "Buttons" and
"ChordMiddle" do ??





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Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-10 Thread Robert Huff

martinko writes:

>  Robert Huff wrote:
>  > martinko writes:
>  > 
>  >>  i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the
>  >>  following issue:
>  > 
>  >I have had this:
>  
>  robert, i'm not sure i got it.
>  do your options fix the issue pls?

No.  They do, however, establish additional conditions under
which the same problem happens, which may be useful for more capable
folks attempting to diagnose the root cause(s).  

>  and, as i couldn't find them in xorg.conf(5), what do "Buttons"
>  and "ChordMiddle" do ??

They are, apparently, obselete.  The file was originally
generated by XFree86, and has not had more than minor adjustments
since.  I included the entire section for diagnostic purposes.
"ChordMiddle" was an option for two-button mice, in which
clicking both buttons simultaneously would cause the software to
simulate a middle-button click.


Robert Huff



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Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-10 Thread martinko
Robert Huff wrote:
> martinko writes:
> 
>>  i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the
>>  following issue:
> 
>   I have had this:
> 
>>  if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
>>  instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
>>  trigger this. very annoying.
> 
>   happen for over a year using:
> 
> huff@>> usbdevs -v
> 
>   port 2 addr 3: low speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Microsoft
> IntelliMouse® Explorer(0x0095), Microsoft(0x045e), rev 4.24 
> 
>   and XF86Config:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier  "Mouse0"
>  Driver  "mouse"
>  Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
>  Option  "Protocol" "auto"
>  Option  "Buttons" "7"
>  Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
>  Option  "Emulate3Buttons"
>  Option  "ChordMiddle"
> EndSection
> 
> 
>   Robert Huff
> 


robert, i'm not sure i got it.
do your options fix the issue pls?

and, as i couldn't find them in xorg.conf(5), what do "Buttons" and
"ChordMiddle" do ??

cheers,

martin

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X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-07 Thread Robert Huff

martinko writes:

>  i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the
>  following issue:

I have had this:

>  if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
>  instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
>  trigger this. very annoying.

happen for over a year using:

huff@>> usbdevs -v

  port 2 addr 3: low speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Microsoft
IntelliMouse® Explorer(0x0095), Microsoft(0x045e), rev 4.24 

and XF86Config:

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier  "Mouse0"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
 Option  "Protocol" "auto"
 Option  "Buttons" "7"
 Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
 Option  "Emulate3Buttons"
 Option  "ChordMiddle"
EndSection


Robert Huff

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X11 6.9 issue -- option "ZAxisMapping" -- "4 5" vs "4 5 6 7"

2006-05-07 Thread martinko

hello list!

i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the following issue:

[note that this was first noticed in seamonkey..]

if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history
instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to
trigger this. very annoying.

so it seems to me that the events are interpreted as horizontal 
movements. i have 1-wheel mouse of the following type, though:


kernel: ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/11.10, addr 2, 
iclass 3/1

kernel: ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.

and i found out that the new option introduced in X11 6.9 broke it:

Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"# ++ 2005-01-18 mato
#Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"#!!!

the first version (3rd line) was added manually by me long time ago, 
while the 2nd version (4th line) was automatically generated by new X11 
with `Xorg -configure`.
since i reverted it from "4 5 6 7" back to "4 5" scrolling just works 
again like charm.


note that i'm running freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my
ports from scratch.

any thoughts or suggestions pls ??

cheers,

martin

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