duplex printing with OOo.
Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using % lpr file but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. Has anybody runn ito this before and know how to get it to print double-sided? Note that in a day or three I will *finally* be printing off two copies of my thesis, and this will be single-sided-only according to the rules. So really, it's a dontcare well, other than I would like to know what and where and why to change this in the OO config. thanks guys, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using % lpr file but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. Has anybody runn ito this before and know how to get it to print double-sided? Note that in a day or three I will *finally* be printing off two copies of my thesis, and this will be single-sided-only according to the rules. So really, it's a dontcare well, other than I would like to know what and where and why to change this in the OO config. It works for me, using 3 steps: 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing 3) Install OOo with CUPS support I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: It works for me, using 3 steps: 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd, even if it's not the system one's. :-) 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing It seems that this Brother printer does not come with an operator panel where you can set default modes. As an example, you can tell a HP laserjet 4000 duplex to be duplex by default, so you don't need additional configuration. For modern printers, PPD files are needed to make printer spoolers and filters aware of what capabilities the printer has. This is needed if the printer does not conform to standard printer languages, such as PS or PCL. 3) Install OOo with CUPS support There are some printer settings available in OO, but maybe they do not cover all the printer's capabilities. I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though. With a real printer, it works by default. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:40:50PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: It works for me, using 3 steps: 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd, even if it's not the system one's. :-) It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In short, it has never worked. 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing It seems that this Brother printer does not come with an operator panel where you can set default modes. As an example, you can tell a HP laserjet 4000 duplex to be duplex by default, so you don't need additional configuration. For modern printers, PPD files are needed to make printer spoolers and filters aware of what capabilities the printer has. This is needed if the printer does not conform to standard printer languages, such as PS or PCL. My networked 5250 does come with a configuration panel. Simplex or Duplex. That lets me do % lpr file single- or double-sided. Regardless, my OpenOffice only prints on one-sided. [?] 3) Install OOo with CUPS support There are some printer settings available in OO, but maybe they do not cover all the printer's capabilities. Might help if I knew how to get CUPS working... Anyway, I'll try CUPS again thanks, gary I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though. With a real printer, it works by default. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In short, it has never worked. With modern printers that are not standard compliant, you almost have no way around CUPS. Printers that can do PS don't need any printer filter, and those who talk some standard printer language, such as PCL, are fine with gs drivers, as apsfilter employs them. PCL can, for example, control if the printer should use duplex or not, or from which cassette paper should be taken. This allows you to install several printers, if you wish to use redirection to a specific printer according to the features you want. And it's quite easy. Additionally, it'w roth mentioning that (at least office-class) network printers do contain their own printer spooler system that can be remotely controled via FreeBSD. One of the major downsides of CUPS is, in my opinion, that it does not allow you to add a parallel printer that is not connected to the computer at booting time and at the moment you want to make the installtion. Background story: A friend wanted me to install CUPS for his parallel inkjet printer. He told me name and model of the printer, but CUPS didn't let me install it. Sadly, there seem to be various printer filters that can be used on FreeBSD, and you have to select the correct one according to your printer: none, apsfilter, CUPS, hpijs, gimp-print, gutenprint... My networked 5250 does come with a configuration panel. Simplex or Duplex. That lets me do % lpr file single- or double-sided. Regardless, my OpenOffice only prints on one-sided. [?] An idea might be the following: OpenOffice outputs to PCL or PS and defaults to a single page setting that is forced upon the printer and overriding the preferred setting (duplex) from the operator panel. I had this problem with the HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, too. My solution was to explicitely check the filter, a gs command, to take the printer's setting; but that's not CUPS, it's apsfilter, the more lightweight but limited to quite standard hardware little brother of CUPS. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is say Duplex __ [arrows] Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, c. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is say Duplex __ [arrows] Do I understand this correctly? Duplex works in OO when duplex is set to OFF = no duplex? Oh joy of modern software! This reminds me to a POS program with a very creative error handling, it went like this: switch error case 1: printer not connected; case 2: scanner not connected; case 4: keyboard not connected; case 8: some other error; ... default: file not found; (without mentioning which file) Maybe OO should add something like In order to activate a feature, deactivate it. :-) Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, c. I hope both are well, up and running. :-) By the way, long time that I saw someone write c.. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: duplex printing with OOo.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:28:34PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is say Duplex __ [arrows] Do I understand this correctly? Duplex works in OO when duplex is set to OFF = no duplex? Oh joy of modern software! that should have been:: Duplex _OFF_ [arrows] This reminds me to a POS program with a very creative error handling, it went like this: switch error case 1: printer not connected; case 2: scanner not connected; case 4: keyboard not connected; case 8: some other error; ... default: file not found; (without mentioning which file) LMOA! man, that's rich... sounds like some seriously lazy hacking to me... . Maybe OO should add something like In order to activate a feature, deactivate it. :-) i'm actually starting a ~/.helpOOo file with tricks and tips about the program, mostly swriter. there are some pretty sharp folks over on oooforum.org. luckily:_) Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, c. I hope both are well, up and running. :-) By the way, long time that I saw someone write c.. not sure if easier to type etc. or c, given the shift-7 == '' ... but it's different. gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
