Re[2]: good replacement for open office
On October 06, 2007 at 01:42AM Erich Dollansky wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? As well as potentially allowing your documents to be viewed by anyone with the time and or knowledge to hack into your account. No thanks, I certainly would not want Google or anyone else reading my private data without my permission. Of course we all know that Google can be trusted; and the check is in the mail. -- Gerard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some guy from ComputerWorld was on NPR (National Public Radio) yesterday and claimed security is fine on all online services like this. Mentioned Google specifically. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. as google gets stronger and stronger just means that for most people using brain is too painful. but it's really worth of do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich ___ Some guy from ComputerWorld was on NPR (National Public Radio) yesterday and claimed security is fine on all online services like this. Mentioned Google specifically. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. There are two separate concerns here. 1. General Privacy: If you're concerned with your documents and communications being collected, indexed, and scanned for patterns and flagged terms along with billions of other documents and communications, without any specific attention to yours in particular, you're right -- don't use public, web-based services. 2. Specific Privacy: If you're concerned with someone cracking security on your account, targeting your communications for electronic eavesdropping, and similarly making use of the public nature of a service like that for nefarious intent, you're probably among the millions of computer users who are carefully locking the front door while leaving the bay windows and garage door wide open. Are you using public key encryption systems like OpenPGP to secure your email? Are you encrypting word processor documents when you send email? Are you using a text-based mail user agent instead of reading XHTML rich emails in a GUI mail client? Are you anonymizing communications via the Tor network? What exactly are you doing to avoid leaving yourself at least as wide open with plain text transmission of data as you would be with a web-based, SSL-encrypted mail service? You're probably even transmitting login data to a web server in clear text. Now . . . I know this is the freebsd-questions mailing list, and many of you are running mail servers locally, and otherwise mitigating these risks. On the other hand, simply telling people that they'll be safer avoiding web-based services without explaining that this is only true if they also pay significant attention to securing their other communication and collaboration tools might be considered dishonest, or at least irresponsible. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Eat your crow early, while it's young and tender. Don't wait until it's old and tough. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. There are two separate concerns here. 1. General Privacy: If you're concerned with your documents and communications being collected, indexed, and scanned for patterns and flagged terms along with billions of other documents and communications, without any specific attention to yours in particular, you're right -- don't use public, web-based services. 2. Specific Privacy: If you're concerned with someone cracking security on your account, targeting your communications for electronic eavesdropping, and similarly making use of the public nature of a service like that for nefarious intent, you're probably among the millions of computer users who are carefully locking the front door while leaving the bay windows and garage door wide open. Are you using public key encryption systems like OpenPGP to secure your email? Are you encrypting word processor documents when you send email? Are you using a text-based mail user agent instead of reading XHTML rich emails in a GUI mail client? Are you anonymizing communications via the Tor network? What exactly are you doing to avoid leaving yourself at least as wide open with plain text transmission of data as you would be with a web-based, SSL-encrypted mail service? You're probably even transmitting login data to a web server in clear text. Now . . . I know this is the freebsd-questions mailing list, and many of you are running mail servers locally, and otherwise mitigating these risks. On the other hand, simply telling people that they'll be safer avoiding web-based services without explaining that this is only true if they also pay significant attention to securing their other communication and collaboration tools might be considered dishonest, or at least irresponsible. But then you are assuming Google, as well as the others, are willing to lose public trust by allowing those things to happen and running an insecure system. It would also be assuming an in-house group could provide better security than Google and the others. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:51:49PM -0500, icantthinkofone wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. There are two separate concerns here. 1. General Privacy: If you're concerned with your documents and communications being collected, indexed, and scanned for patterns and flagged terms along with billions of other documents and communications, without any specific attention to yours in particular, you're right -- don't use public, web-based services. 2. Specific Privacy: If you're concerned with someone cracking security on your account, targeting your communications for electronic eavesdropping, and similarly making use of the public nature of a service like that for nefarious intent, you're probably among the millions of computer users who are carefully locking the front door while leaving the bay windows and garage door wide open. Are you using public key encryption systems like OpenPGP to secure your email? Are you encrypting word processor documents when you send email? Are you using a text-based mail user agent instead of reading XHTML rich emails in a GUI mail client? Are you anonymizing communications via the Tor network? What exactly are you doing to avoid leaving yourself at least as wide open with plain text transmission of data as you would be with a web-based, SSL-encrypted mail service? You're probably even transmitting login data to a
Re: good replacement for open office
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 09:34:41AM -0500, icantthinkofone wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some guy from ComputerWorld was on NPR (National Public Radio) yesterday and claimed security is fine on all online services like this. Mentioned Google specifically. Depends on what you mean by security. They are reasonably OK if you mean sending in your payment for something, though not unbreakable. But, for documents that live there for a while, not only are they all very penetrable, but susceptable to being coerced by governments to reveal what we would normally think would be secret and private. Google has also provided information to the Chinese government about users and so have several other companies. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mine are always heavy in equations and chemistry. I had a five minute try of openoffice writer's equation editor, and my first impression was that it renders equations very poorly. It seems to do this even worse thant MS Word. Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. For my personal use, I stick to TeX, but some people in my surroundings are looking for a way out of MS-Word. To those that might be annoyed by the topic shifting, I present my excuses. -- Cheers, Michaël G. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. Sorry I can't really be of much help with OO.o equations. What I do personally is a kludge, but it works well enough. For documents that I create for read-only use, I use groff and friends. For those that require collaboration, I use Wordperfect to create the equations (it has an equation mode like troff's eqn), export them into Word format, and then read them into Word. The equation mode in Word is crippled, and you need to purchase MathType (I think that is the name) to make it usable. The same goes for references, BTW: you really need to purchase an add-on to make Word usable. In troff I just use refer together with Refbase. I've just not had much luck with OO.o's equation mode. If often crashes Word, and since all the people I collaborate with use Word, well, I use Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all top-flight scientists and engineers at major US research Universities, their computer literacy is surprisingly low. I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM and am done with it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. Sorry I can't really be of much help with OO.o equations. What I do personally is a kludge, but it works well enough. For documents that I create for read-only use, I use groff and friends. For those that require collaboration, I use Wordperfect to create the equations (it has an equation mode like troff's eqn), export them into Word format, and then read them into Word. The equation mode in Word is crippled, and you need to purchase MathType (I think that is the name) to make it usable. The same goes for references, BTW: you really need to purchase an add-on to make Word usable. In troff I just use refer together with Refbase. I've just not had much luck with OO.o's equation mode. If often crashes Word, and since all the people I collaborate with use Word, well, I use Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all top-flight scientists and engineers at major US research Universities, their computer literacy is surprisingly low. I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM and am done with it. Have you tried LyX? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM and am done with it. Have you tried LyX? I think this purpose, in this case, means collaborating with people using MS Word. That being the case, LyX is sort of the opposite of what he needs, even if it handles equation work excellently for print -- because, of course, it *doesn't* handle MS Word DOC format at all. At least, it didn't the last time I checked. I imagine the LyX maintainers haven't suddenly jumped on the interoperate with MS Office bandwagon lately. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Brian K. Reid: In computer science, we stand on each other's feet. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On 10/4/07, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM and am done with it. Have you tried LyX? I think this purpose, in this case, means collaborating with people using MS Word. That being the case, LyX is sort of the opposite of what he needs, even if it handles equation work excellently for print -- because, of course, it *doesn't* handle MS Word DOC format at all. At least, it didn't the last time I checked. I imagine the LyX maintainers haven't suddenly jumped on the interoperate with MS Office bandwagon lately. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Brian K. Reid: In computer science, we stand on each other's feet. You are so right about that. I saw equations in the subject line and jumped a little to quickly. ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all i'm not top-flight scientist but i was able to learn latex... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 20:13 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all i'm not top-flight scientist but i was able to learn latex... That may be true, but trust me, the faculty with whom I work just would not do it. No way, no how, never. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 12:34 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: Have you tried LyX? I'm aware of it, and will indeed try it one of these days, but that is not the issue. I'm fine with troff -- I've used it for so many years that I can get it to jump through hoops. Time has passed it by, though, so moving to TeX (or LaTeX or Lyx) one of these days is probably a good idea. The issue is the skill of the people with whom I collaborate, and their inclination to change. They won't, at least not for me alone. This is not a battle worth fighting. You are of course welcomed to disagree for your own case. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Frank Jahnke wrote: what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your problem is underspecified. 1) Collaboration (complex). If you collaborate with colleagues who use Word (for example) then practically you have to use Word if you deal with complex documents. By collaborate I mean exchanging documents back and forth, with edits in each pass. Mine are always heavy in equations and chemistry. Run it in a virtual machine (VMware, Win4BSD, qemu/kqemu) on XP, W2K or 98SE. You probably don't need the latest and greatest version of Word unless you colleagues are very sophisticated. Word 2000 has been fine for me. 2) Document creation. If you only want to create documents, and Office compatibility is not that important, then there are many options: Abiword/Gnumeric are quite good if you want WYSIWYG (but do install all the extensions), the formatters TeX and groff are exceptionally powerful if you learn them well. Abiword does not read Word files well; Gnumeric has many short-comings in reading Excel (particularly for graphics) but is very good otherwise. Personally I use the groff family for all my complex documents, but I have used it for 25 years and know it inside and out. (Well, it was troff and friends long ago.) 3) Read-only. You can use Antiword to get the raw text, but you lose all formatting. It is a pretty lousy choice in my opinion. Textmaker/Planmaker do a very good job for this. 4) Mixture. If you have a general mixture of these tasks and don't want to set up a VM, use Textmaker. The programs are quite good, they are quite compatible with Office (but choke on obscure files I use regularly, as does OO.o and all the others), and much better than OO.o and Aibword/Gnumeric in my opinion if you like Word. They are also quite inexpensive -- you can often find them for $20 or so on sale from the publisher. Personally, I use groff (with chem, grap, pic, refer, tbl and eqn for all the heavy text formatting), VMware/XP/Office 2003, Win4BSD/W2k/Office 2000, Textmaker/Planmaker, OO.o, Abiword/Gnumeric, and Windows computers. What I use depends on what I am doing. Good luck! Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not use Google Docs? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Hi, do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
good replacement for open office
Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64. replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
since when... tried it last week and nothing On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64. replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Aryeh Friedman writes: editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64. since when... tried it last week and nothing Don't know how it affects amd64, but I know patches have been committed in the last calendar week. What would not build on i386 then just finished building two hours ago. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Please, don't top-post. On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:00:03 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64. replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) since when... tried it last week and nothing Are you kidding? If you show the error message then someone may comment on it. So far your statements are not convincing. Here is the relevant part of my log: - building openoffice.org-2.3.0 in directory /usr/local/tinderbox/7-amd64-bsam maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] port directory: /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2 build started at Sat Sep 29 18:10:38 UTC 2007 [...] === SECURITY REPORT: This port has installed the following files which may act as network servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the system. /usr/local/openoffice.org-2.3.0/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_socket.so /usr/local/openoffice.org-2.3.0/program/libucpdav1.so /usr/local/openoffice.org-2.3.0/program/libcurl.so.3.0.0 /usr/local/openoffice.org-2.3.0/program/libuno_sal.so.3 If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a security risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the security of ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make deinstall' to deinstall the port if this is a concern. For more information, and contact details about the security status of this software, see the following webpage: http://www.openoffice.org/ phase 7: make package [...] build of /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2 ended at Sun Sep 30 01:25:22 UTC 2007 - If you need a full log I may give an URL but beware it's more 50MB long... WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To read MSword I like very light appplication antiword. Just antiword -t filename. You can create documents with many different programs. Abiword is really light. Gnumeric works wonders with Excell format. Powerpoint documents are little bit more difficult to read. You can use tonic-point viewer but it requires Java which I do not have on my system. There is also a program called present. To be frank with you I use for all my needs TeX except for the spreadsheets although even for that you may use TeX. All of the above combined is 100 times smaller than Open Office. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On 10/4/07, Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) abiword, gnumeric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
If you don't mind paying for software, I think you'll find SoftMaker's Textmaker and Planmaker tools wholly satisfatory. Their spreadsheets is fully compatible with Excel. They make their products for FreeBSD. Additionally, if you find quirks, they answer you (once I even saw one of their guys answer somebody on sci.math.numerical). *And* they provide regular service packs (bugfixes and improvements). I've long since ditched OpenOffice because it's always problematic. http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofl_en.htm Cheers, Henry Lenzi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please, don't top-post.
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:00:03 + Aryeh Friedman wrote:
On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote:
Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good
editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64.
replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and
spreadsheets are what matter to me)lib:
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Re: good replacement for open office
Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha, I've had to use AbiWord since I ran into the same problem on 7 CURRENT. I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? no -- huge library mismatches -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) c:323.219.4708 o:703.749.9295x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? no -- huge library mismatches Why? Isn't that what misc/compat6x is for? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On 10/5/07, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? no -- huge library mismatches Why? Isn't that what misc/compat6x is for? Not all the way from 4.x I think though ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:11:04 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? no -- huge library mismatches Why? Isn't that what misc/compat6x is for? Sorry I misread that. but it's worth a try with misc/compat4x ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your problem is underspecified. 1) Collaboration (complex). If you collaborate with colleagues who use Word (for example) then practically you have to use Word if you deal with complex documents. By collaborate I mean exchanging documents back and forth, with edits in each pass. Mine are always heavy in equations and chemistry. Run it in a virtual machine (VMware, Win4BSD, qemu/kqemu) on XP, W2K or 98SE. You probably don't need the latest and greatest version of Word unless you colleagues are very sophisticated. Word 2000 has been fine for me. 2) Document creation. If you only want to create documents, and Office compatibility is not that important, then there are many options: Abiword/Gnumeric are quite good if you want WYSIWYG (but do install all the extensions), the formatters TeX and groff are exceptionally powerful if you learn them well. Abiword does not read Word files well; Gnumeric has many short-comings in reading Excel (particularly for graphics) but is very good otherwise. Personally I use the groff family for all my complex documents, but I have used it for 25 years and know it inside and out. (Well, it was troff and friends long ago.) 3) Read-only. You can use Antiword to get the raw text, but you lose all formatting. It is a pretty lousy choice in my opinion. Textmaker/Planmaker do a very good job for this. 4) Mixture. If you have a general mixture of these tasks and don't want to set up a VM, use Textmaker. The programs are quite good, they are quite compatible with Office (but choke on obscure files I use regularly, as does OO.o and all the others), and much better than OO.o and Aibword/Gnumeric in my opinion if you like Word. They are also quite inexpensive -- you can often find them for $20 or so on sale from the publisher. Personally, I use groff (with chem, grap, pic, refer, tbl and eqn for all the heavy text formatting), VMware/XP/Office 2003, Win4BSD/W2k/Office 2000, Textmaker/Planmaker, OO.o, Abiword/Gnumeric, and Windows computers. What I use depends on what I am doing. Good luck! Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your problem is underspecified. 1) Collaboration (complex). If you collaborate with colleagues who use Word (for example) then practically you have to use Word if you deal with complex documents. By collaborate I mean exchanging documents back and forth, with edits in each pass. Mine are always heavy in equations and chemistry. Read/write .doc, pdf and rtf mainly 2) Document creation. If you only want to create documents, and Office compatibility is not that important, then there are many options: Abiword/Gnumeric are quite good if you want WYSIWYG (but do install all the extensions), the formatters TeX and groff are exceptionally powerful if you learn them well. Abiword does not read Word files well; Gnumeric has many short-comings in reading Excel (particularly for graphics) but is very good otherwise. Personally I use the groff family for all my complex documents, but I have used it for 25 years and know it inside and out. (Well, it was troff and friends long ago.) WYSIWYG editing for the above including embedded graphics and equations I also want to keep the learn curve as small as possible (I know enough troff to be dangerous) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good replacement for open office
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 01:20 +, Aryeh Friedman wrote: 1) Collaboration (complex). Read/write .doc, pdf and rtf mainly 2) Document creation. WYSIWYG editing for the above including embedded graphics and equations I also want to keep the learn curve as small as possible (I know enough troff to be dangerous) My suggestion would be to buy Textmaker/Planmaker -- it is well worth it -- but if you are really heavily into math, learn TeX or troff for document input. TeX (and its various packagings) is the better of the two to learn, since most journals take TeX input files but not troff. (I still consider the eqn preprocessor for troff as the most brilliant user-level software program ever written.) Most publishers do take pdfs, but they complain. Oh, and if you want to read pdf files and do any editing, you need Adobe Acrobat (Windows and OS X). There is nothing in the open-source world that comes anywhere close. I run it in a VM and on Windows boxes. Writing to pdf files from many input formats is handled well with ghostscript, which is used by many open-source programs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
