Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On May 12, 2009 6:33:03 AM -0700 Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com 
wrote:


So, based on what I've read here and in my searches, for wake-on-LAN to
work on a given system, the NIC itself has to support this feature, and
in addition the OS has to be able to enable this feature (via the driver
for the NIC). It seems likely that when this appears that a new option
will be provided for the ifconfig command.

Since we're stuck on 7.0, I guess the only option is to implement it
ourselves...



I'm on 7.2 STABLE.  man (8) ifconfig mentions wol, so the capability at 
least exists in 7.2.  In grepping through the device sources, it looks 
like the e1000 driver has wol capabilities enabled as do a couple of 
others.  You may be able to use that code at least to get headway in 
creating drivers, if you can't use those existing drivers.  If you're 
using the e1000 driver already (I believe you mentioned you're running 
Intel NICs), you may be able to use wol out of the box without making any 
changes.  Seems worth testing at least.


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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Steele
I just noticed my 7.2-R i386 PC-Engines ALIX2 board with vr devices show up 
(WOL_UCAST,WOL_MAGIC) in the ifconfig listing. Seems they're making some of 
it available in 7.2-RELEASE 
 
I'll have to test/try this out, I'm glad I'm starting to see it happen. 

Unfortunately we're pretty much stuck on 7.0... 

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-13 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 06:36:31AM -0700, Peter Steele typed:
  FUD, read ifconfig(8) 
 
 There is no mention of wake-on-LAN in the man page for ifconfig in 7.0. I'd 
 be interested in seeing if the 8.0 man page has added anything. 

It has:

 wol, wol_ucast, wol_mcast, wol_magic
 Enable Wake On Lan (WOL) support, if available.  WOL is a facil-
 ity whereby a machine in a low power state may be woken in
 response to a received packet.  There are three types of packets
 that may wake a system: ucast (directed solely to the machine's
 mac address), mcast (directed to a broadcast or multicast
 address), or magic (unicast or multicast frames with a ``magic
 contents'').  Not all devices support WOL, those that do indicate
 the mechanisms they support in their capabilities.  wol is a syn-
 onym for enabling all available WOL mechanisms.  To disable WOL
 use -wol.

Ruben

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-13 Thread Tim Judd
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 06:36:31AM -0700, Peter Steele typed:
   FUD, read ifconfig(8)
 
  There is no mention of wake-on-LAN in the man page for ifconfig in 7.0.
 I'd be interested in seeing if the 8.0 man page has added anything.

 It has:

 wol, wol_ucast, wol_mcast, wol_magic
 Enable Wake On Lan (WOL) support, if available.  WOL is a
 facil-
 ity whereby a machine in a low power state may be woken in
 response to a received packet.  There are three types of
 packets
 that may wake a system: ucast (directed solely to the machine's
 mac address), mcast (directed to a broadcast or multicast
 address), or magic (unicast or multicast frames with a ``magic
 contents'').  Not all devices support WOL, those that do
 indicate
 the mechanisms they support in their capabilities.  wol is a
 syn-
 onym for enabling all available WOL mechanisms.  To disable WOL
 use -wol.

 Ruben


I just noticed my 7.2-R i386 PC-Engines ALIX2 board with vr devices show up
(WOL_UCAST,WOL_MAGIC) in the ifconfig listing.  Seems they're making some of
it available in 7.2-RELEASE


I'll have to test/try this out, I'm glad I'm starting to see it happen.


Thought you'd all like to know.
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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 5/12/09, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote:

 Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD
 system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work?


 Search the archives.  The question of Wake-on-LAN has been around for a
 while.  I typically respond.

 Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support.  The OS puts
 the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work.  FreeBSD has
 no Wake-on-LAN driver support, hence, no host running FreeBSD has
 Wake-on-LAN capabilities.

FUD, read ifconfig(8)

 I'm shocked that the Intel NICs don't have this support, given that Intel
 provides such excellent documentation and/or drivers for FreeBSD.

 Please search the archives.
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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Peter Steele
Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki, 
development just started in 8 CURRENT: 
http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan 

I came across that same reference. Unfortunately we're stuck on 7.0. I take it 
the point of the wol command that available in the ports collection is that 
it can be used to wake any system that supports wake-on-LAN, and these systems 
can be running any OS. 

So, based on what I've read here and in my searches, for wake-on-LAN to work on 
a given system, the NIC itself has to support this feature, and in addition the 
OS has to be able to enable this feature (via the driver for the NIC). It seems 
likely that when this appears that a new option will be provided for the 
ifconfig command. 

Since we're stuck on 7.0, I guess the only option is to implement it 
ourselves... 

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Peter Steele
 FUD, read ifconfig(8) 

There is no mention of wake-on-LAN in the man page for ifconfig in 7.0. I'd be 
interested in seeing if the 8.0 man page has added anything. 

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Laursen

Peter Steele wrote:
I came across that same reference. Unfortunately we're stuck on 7.0. I take it the point of the wol command that available in the ports collection is that it can be used to wake any system that supports wake-on-LAN, and these systems can be running any OS. 

So, based on what I've read here and in my searches, for wake-on-LAN to work on a given system, the NIC itself has to support this feature, and in addition the OS has to be able to enable this feature (via the driver for the NIC). It seems likely that when this appears that a new option will be provided for the ifconfig command. 


In some cases (depending on the NIC and the BIOS) WOL works even without 
OS support. It might be worth testing before you do anything else.


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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Peter Steele
In some cases (depending on the NIC and the BIOS) WOL works even without 
OS support. It might be worth testing before you do anything else. 

I've tried various experiments with the wol command to try to wake up one of 
our boxes with no luck. We're using the stock nVidia driver. There is also no 
mention of wake-on-LAN in the BIOS, although there is an option for enabling 
wake-on-ring (something different). I've sent an email to our suppliers to see 
what they have to say about wake-on-LAN support for these boxes. We may need a 
BIOS upgrade. 

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Peter
 --On May 11, 2009 8:06:41 PM -0600 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
 last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode
 the NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.

 Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider
 them magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.

 There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results
 were
 posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.


 Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki,
 development just started in 8 CURRENT:
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan

 So unless you're running CURRENT, it doesn't look like you're going to
 have any success trying to get it to work.  Even if you have 8 CURRENT,
 you'll still need to figure out if your NIC is supported yet, or write the
 code yourself if you have that capability.

 Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
 obvious, my opinions are my own
 and not those of my employer.


Been using WOL on -STABLE since 7.0 I believe [not sure]
Currently using WOL on fxp and vr cards [which wiki lists as supported]

/usr/ports/net/wol
 and then:
wol -vi 172.20.6.255 00:30:6e:11:f8:45

this box was both public IP and private IP - If I do a wol broadcast on
255.255.255.255 it will not wake up the other box, plugged into same
switch - but doing broadcast on local subnet wakes it up any ideas?

I do have an nvidia card, if I boot the bios/POST ONLY, and not let it go
into FreeBSD [hard power off at boot prompt], WOL works [via BIOS].  If I
boot up FreeBSD, do graceful shutdown WOL no longer works.

]Peter[

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-12 Thread Fabian Keil
Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote:

 Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD 
 system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work? 

Yes, with CURRENT and re(4):
f...@africanqueen ~ $pciconf -lv | grep -A 4 re0
r...@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x02 card=0x816910ec chip=0x816910ec rev=0x10 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8110SB Single-Chip Gigabit LOM Ethernet Controller'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

Fabian


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Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Steele
Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD 
system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work? 

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote:

 Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD
 system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work?


Search the archives.  The question of Wake-on-LAN has been around for a
while.  I typically respond.

Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support.  The OS puts
the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work.  FreeBSD has
no Wake-on-LAN driver support, hence, no host running FreeBSD has
Wake-on-LAN capabilities.

I'm shocked that the Intel NICs don't have this support, given that Intel
provides such excellent documentation and/or drivers for FreeBSD.

Please search the archives.
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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Steele


 Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support. The OS puts the 
 NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work. FreeBSD has no 
 Wake-on-LAN driver support, hence, no host running FreeBSD has Wake-on-LAN 
 capabilities. 
 
I'm shocked that the Intel NICs don't have this support, given that Intel 
provides such excellent documentation and/or drivers for FreeBSD. 
 
Please search the archives. 

I did do a search before posting and I wasn't very encouraged by what I found. 
You've confirmed my findings, unfortunately. 

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD 
system?


wake on lan works before any OS is started, actually before computer is 
powered up - as it's made to power up computer by LAN

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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support.  The OS puts
the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work.  FreeBSD has

isn't it BIOS option?
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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

  Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD
 system?


 wake on lan works before any OS is started, actually before computer is
 powered up - as it's made to power up computer by LAN


Like normal, you've completely missed the point.

I will try not to scream at you.

I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode the
NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.

Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider them
magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.

There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results were
posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.

Wojciech - I get so disappointed, you seem to mislead people more than the
rest.  I strongly encourage you to read into the topics BEFORE you post to
the mailing list.


--TJ
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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On May 11, 2009 8:06:41 PM -0600 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:


I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode
the NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.

Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider
them magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.

There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results were
posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.



Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki, 
development just started in 8 CURRENT:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan

So unless you're running CURRENT, it doesn't look like you're going to 
have any success trying to get it to work.  Even if you have 8 CURRENT, 
you'll still need to figure out if your NIC is supported yet, or write the 
code yourself if you have that capability.


Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
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Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.comwrote:

 --On May 11, 2009 8:06:41 PM -0600 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:


 I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
 last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode
 the NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.

 Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider
 them magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.

 There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results were
 posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.


 Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki,
 development just started in 8 CURRENT:
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan

 So unless you're running CURRENT, it doesn't look like you're going to have
 any success trying to get it to work.  Even if you have 8 CURRENT, you'll
 still need to figure out if your NIC is supported yet, or write the code
 yourself if you have that capability.

 Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
 obvious, my opinions are my own
 and not those of my employer.
 **
 WARNING: Check the headers before replying



Paul,

That's excellent news, and I will remember this as something to look forward
to.  Seems to be a very important thing to many people and I'm glad we're
moving that way.


Thank you, Paul for the update.


--TJ
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Re: wake-on-lan support? (WOL)

2003-11-02 Thread Q
This is mostly true, but the NIC driver also needs to ensure that it
leaves this feature enabled after it has reset the hardware and set it
up to it's liking. If the driver doesn't have WOL awareness the feature
will more likely be disabled during the attach phase of loading the
driver.  Using On Now as opposed to WakeOnLan however, must be enabled
by the driver because the NIC uses a packet mask with user configured
contents to wake up, which can't be set in the BIOS.

I think the main reason for the lack of support is that this technology
isn't very useful from a server perspective, and is intended more for
managing desktops and embedded systems, rather than the 24x7 uptime
tasks that FreeBSD is normally employed for.

Seeya...Q

On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 22:06, Alexander Kühn wrote:

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 Hi,
 Wake-On-Lan (WOL) is something that has next to nothing to do with the
 installed OS. If it's a x86 PC you need a ATX power supply and board, a
 network card that supports WOL, have the powerconnector of the network
 card connected to the board, so it has power even if the machine is
 powered down. You need to enable it in the PC bios and for some NICs
 also in the NIC's BIOS as well (e.g. RTL 8139) using a NIC specific tool
 (usually under DOS). Then you should do a soft powerdown (e.g. halt -p)
 and then send the magic packet to the subnet the WOL machine is in.
 Unfortunatly there are also different magic packets send by different
 tools and some of the are not available on FreeBSD (e.g. Donald Becker's
 ether-wake, which works for me).
 I hope this helps,
 Alexander.
 
 Alexander Mayer wrote:
 
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 |
 | is wake-on-lan possible on a PC running FreeBSD? I want to boot my
 | FreeBSD-PC with wake-on-lan. In Linux there is a problem with many
 | drivers because they disable wake-on-lan. Only a few drivers give the
 | possibility to enable this feature. What about FreeBSD?
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Re: wake-on-lan support?

2003-11-02 Thread Elessar
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:29:40 +0100
Alexander Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 is wake-on-lan possible on a PC running FreeBSD? I want to boot my 
 FreeBSD-PC with wake-on-lan. In Linux there is a problem with many 
 drivers because they disable wake-on-lan. Only a few drivers give the 
 possibility to enable this feature. What about FreeBSD?
 
 Alex
 

Hi

I use WOL (sometimes) with freeBSD and ports/net/wol/
Basically, when I am not at home to wake up my desktop via wol from
my nat-box.
The nat-box is RELENG-4_7 with two fxp (Intel NIC) and the desktop
a ASUS CUSL-2 with 933mhz pIII and another fxp running RELENG_4.
Other setups may differ.

It was some time ago when I used this for the first time, but I can't
remember to have turned something on. It just worked ;]
Be sure to also check the posting from Alexander Kuehn regarding
the hardware issues.

Joerg


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Re: wake-on-lan support?

2003-11-02 Thread Manuel Rabade
I also use wake-on-lan to turn on my laptop from my nat box when i leave it
home, i have a 3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL (the xl driver) and works fine,
the only thing that i setup to make it work was my bios: turn on the
'Wake-On-Lan' option.

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 04:25:40AM +0100, Elessar wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:29:40 +0100
 Hi
 
 I use WOL (sometimes) with freeBSD and ports/net/wol/
 Basically, when I am not at home to wake up my desktop via wol from
 my nat-box.
 The nat-box is RELENG-4_7 with two fxp (Intel NIC) and the desktop
 a ASUS CUSL-2 with 933mhz pIII and another fxp running RELENG_4.
 Other setups may differ.
 
 It was some time ago when I used this for the first time, but I can't
 remember to have turned something on. It just worked ;]
 Be sure to also check the posting from Alexander Kuehn regarding
 the hardware issues.
 
 Joerg


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Re: wake-on-lan support? (WOL)

2003-11-01 Thread Alexander Kühn
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Hi,
Wake-On-Lan (WOL) is something that has next to nothing to do with the
installed OS. If it's a x86 PC you need a ATX power supply and board, a
network card that supports WOL, have the powerconnector of the network
card connected to the board, so it has power even if the machine is
powered down. You need to enable it in the PC bios and for some NICs
also in the NIC's BIOS as well (e.g. RTL 8139) using a NIC specific tool
(usually under DOS). Then you should do a soft powerdown (e.g. halt -p)
and then send the magic packet to the subnet the WOL machine is in.
Unfortunatly there are also different magic packets send by different
tools and some of the are not available on FreeBSD (e.g. Donald Becker's
ether-wake, which works for me).
I hope this helps,
Alexander.
Alexander Mayer wrote:

| Hi,
|
| is wake-on-lan possible on a PC running FreeBSD? I want to boot my
| FreeBSD-PC with wake-on-lan. In Linux there is a problem with many
| drivers because they disable wake-on-lan. Only a few drivers give the
| possibility to enable this feature. What about FreeBSD?
|
| Alex
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Re: wake-on-lan support? (WOL)

2003-11-01 Thread Alexander Mayer
Hi,

Alexander Kühn wrote:

powered down. You need to enable it in the PC bios and for some NICs
also in the NIC's BIOS as well (e.g. RTL 8139) using a NIC specific 
tool
But most drivers in Linux disable WOL per default (on the NIC). It's a 
common problem: WOL works if I boot into Windows then shutdown. When I 
shutdown from Linux the PC doesn't wake up. Only a few drivers in Linux 
2.4.x (vanilla) provide a kernel option like enable_wol=1, usually 
you need a kernel patch (if you can find one).

Are there similar problems on FreeBSD?

Thanks,
Alex
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wake-on-lan support?

2003-10-31 Thread Alexander Mayer
Hi,

is wake-on-lan possible on a PC running FreeBSD? I want to boot my 
FreeBSD-PC with wake-on-lan. In Linux there is a problem with many 
drivers because they disable wake-on-lan. Only a few drivers give the 
possibility to enable this feature. What about FreeBSD?

Alex

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