Re: Hacked - FreeBSD 7.1-Release
Adam Vande More wrote: I use security/denyhosts for this, very simple to setup like 5 minutes if you're a fast reader. There are other options as well that offer similar functionality. Like security/bruteblock -- Tuomo ... The way to a man's heart is through the left ventricle ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NSIS compile failed on FreeBSD 7.2
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 05:18:02PM +0100, Mikael Bak wrote: Matt Wilks wrote: I'm attempting to install NSIS (http://nsis.sourceforge.net/) on an amd64 FreeBSD 7.2 system and having trouble. When I run [snip] From the project's home page: NSIS (Nullsoft Scriptable Install System) is a professional open source system to create Windows installers. Is this supposed to compile on unix-like systems? Yes it is. It's supposed to be compilable on any POSIX-compliant system, without requiring WINE. With or without a cross-compiler? -- Tuomo ... [X] nail here for new monitor ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
Aragon Gouveia wrote: TJ Varghese wrote: They're also fanless. :) Chipset has a fan, however the processor itself is fanless. I've read You are correct about the Intel GCLF2, however I was talking specifically about the tranquil system. They build their systems to be fanless, so I assume they remove the stock heatsinks/fans. The systems are quite heavy if you look at the specs, so the casing is probably a big heatsink. Tom's Hardware had an interesting article last year: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Atom-Athlon-Efficient,1997.html I'd like to see what current processors can achieve. -- Tuomo ... The most amazing achievement of the computer software industry is its continuing cancellation of the steady and staggering gains made by the computer hardware industry. -- Henry Petroski ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Keeping Updated
Paul Stewart wrote: This raises my first question - getting updating source. Where do I obtain it from and how do I know when it's updated? I presume only during major updates/upgrades and/or security issues is when the source tree ever changes? Umm... No. Or depends on what you mean. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE I understand (or believe I do) on the whole make buildworld, make installworld, mergemaster -v steps unless anything has changed in 7.2-RELEASE that I need to know about. I also remember how to build my own kernels and see that you can now do make buildkernel KERNCONF=NEWKERNEL and make installkernel KERNCONF=NEWKERNEL which is nice too. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html#CANONICAL-BUILD I guess I'm kinda wondering the condensed quick version of what people are typically doing to keep their system updated from source without making life difficult ;) Yes, I've been reading through various things to get myself updated to newer info but there's also a lot of stuff on the Internet based on older info hence why I'm asking. I don't know if remember this, but the Handbook is pretty much always up-to-date and along with manual pages should be your first reference for anything. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html To be more specific, you seemed to be interested in these topics (but don't limit your reading to these): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html -- Tuomo ... Google how to hook up a hose to a kitchen sink Did you mean: how to hook up a /horse/ to a kitchen sink I hope there was a non-return valve in the hose connection somewhere; horse-sh!t in your water supply is bad. No, horse-shit in your water is just disgusting. Sheep-shit in your water is bad! :-) Sheep puns are bad. ;) -- on http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/ Yes,_That_0x27_s_Exactly_What_I_Meant.aspx ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backup solution suggestions
Johan Ström wrote: I create regular tarball (gziped maybee) with some files i want to backup, Then i encrypt this file with ie gpg. Then i send of this file using some unspecified network protocol to the storage server. Encrypted all the way, from my end to the remote disk.. The downside is that it is a static file.. not a dynamic filesystem, nothing I can mount and have easy access to individual files from. *Thats* what I'm looking for. I wonder if there are any FUSE filesystems that would allow this. -- Tuomo ... Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek Gigabit Network Card 0xd6088086
Daniel Dias Gonçalves wrote: What is WIP version ? http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=WIPFind=findstring=exact -- Tuomo ... Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: rm(1) bug, possibly serious
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: .??* is a standard workaround that works most of the time. Won't match .a .b etc but such antisocial files are the exception, one might hope. What? I name all my files that way! Granted, that only allows under 30 files per directory, but so what? -- Tuomo ... SROL Alright! I just gave advice on which underwear/bra combo to wear to a party to my New York ho :D TheBaskinator What's his name? -- http://bash.org/?81736 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: As someone who has had to show many people how to use the FreeBSD installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some of which I have); [...] As someone who only very rarely plays with the installer, I sometimes get bitten by the Space/Enter thing. -- Tuomo ... Great, so now I get to take shit from Finns on both sides of the Atlantic for a guy I didn't elect and whose policies I don't support. -- http://www.axis-of-aevil.net/archives/2004/11/index.html ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install SCSI over ATAPI for DVD
KAYVEN RIESE wrote: Then run config NEW_FILE Go into kernel build directory run make cleandepend ; make depend ; make make install but i don't know what the kernel build directory is prolly simple for you guys. i just did the command in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf directory and it didn't werk. Try these: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html -- Tuomo ... It certainly is still a made-up word. Unlike all the English words that are found in nature. -- http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/Brevity_Is_Important.aspx?pg=2 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell 1955 Blade - Broadcom NIC not detected (BCM5708S)
Scott Long wrote: How hard would it be to use the linux driver code base to add tthe SerDes support to the FreeBSD driver? I am not a C programmer, but I can copy and paste ;) FreeBSD has the MII and PHY blocks abstracted out into separate drivers, unlike linux. It's not clear to me how this may or may not affect SerDes support. However, it's rarely possible to cut-n-paste this kind of stuff from Linux due to how completely differently it is treated. ..and of course there's the thing about licensing, so that afterwards you'd probably be managing your own GPL'd fork of FreeBSD... -- Tuomo ... Schizophrenia beats being alone ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to 6.1-RELEASE problems with make buildkernel
Yousef Raffah wrote: After cvsupping using the above cvs-supfile, I managed to buildworld with problems (I get a lot of segmentation fault 11) but it completed the build after several tries. Check your hardware. Especially search for memory problems (eg. memtest) and overheating. http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ -- Tuomo ... How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros and Cons of amd64 (versus i386).
Chris H. wrote: Interesting to note (to me anyway) is my SCSI reports fastest on the outside whereas my (earlier reported) ATA reports faster in the center (middle). You get better seek times on average in the center. Maybe that affected your results? -- Tuomo ... Nitpicking - not just a hobby, it's a way of life! ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new FreeBSD-webpage
Greg Barniskis wrote: Dan Ponte wrote: I doubt the primary goal here was to appear trendy. Well, it certainly seems as if that was one of the goals, seeing how the new site uses quite a few new webdesign concepts that came into existence in the past few years, while providing little benefit in the way of content or usability. well, usability is not an entirely objective measure, but there are objective aspects to it. Like, not having to scroll to find crucial navigation links and the Search box, or to see what the latest You forget the number 1 rule: Thou shalt not add to the number of clicks required. Scrolling is always preferable to clicking since it requires less effort and has a better response time. security advisory was. Like, reducing 20-30 headings in big stacks to clearly bounded clusters of 7 +/- 2, fostering rapid understanding. I think usability is measurably up. Reducing headings in clearly defined sections to less clearly defined links improves usability? I suppose in sense it does break down in a way that the old site was more usable for experts (usable once one had studied on it awhile, that is), while the new layout might be more usable for newbies. But that doesn't mean it was for newbies. I like it, and I've been poking at the web site for a decade now. I was put off for maybe 15 secs the first time I looked at it, then I started to accept and appreciate (aw, who can resist that big smilin' Beastie ;). I like the beastie too. But that's about it. It's got some quirks. I'm seeing some more things suffer from fixed widths (and fixed heights, like the mirror selector widget -- px is just not the most user-friendly unit of measure), but the path it's on seems a good one. Like Kris said, if you've got a specific problem, constructively suggest a specific solution (other than just reverting). I see now that the powers that be have already decided that this is the way of the future (good grief). I see it in the comments to peoples' reactions and in the way the whole thing was planned in relative secrecy and then just dropped on the rest of us. I suppose I should at least try to minimize the damage on my behalf. So, here's a specific and constructive suggestion: Add on a clearly visible place on the front page a link pointing to the old site and keep the old site updated as well. How about Not new to FreeBSD? under the New to FreeBSD?? Here's another: Make all headings links. If I want to see all security advisories, I don't want to have to search for that little More. Instead, I'd prefer to click on the heading and get the security advisory page. But where are the advisories on that page? Oh, *now* I have to scroll.. That table of contents is squeezed between the introduction and the rest of the content. It is customary to have table of contents first so people can actually umm.. you know.. find it. -- Tuomo ... I am willing to make the mistakes if someone else is willing to learn from them -- Ways for Personal Growth http://www.ericbair.com/humor/PerGrowth.txt ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new FreeBSD-webpage
Miguel Saturnino wrote: You'd expect popups from the links on the top (they look like that sort of links), but none seem to appear and I've just wasted time waiting for them to appear. Why would you expect pop-up windows from the new menu? Why does this menu looks like a menu that will pop up a new window? To me, it just looks like a nice menu -- and I certainly don't expect pop-up windows from it. Ah, I can see you're one of the lucky ones to have missed certain corporate sites. Most of them seem to provide a look and an interface just like this one. Mainly the idea is to make the corporation look business-like. The actual content (or whatever part of it that is of any use) is hidden somewhere beneath in order to discourage people from reading it too closely. To me, this sort of design just means we want to be boring, not care and just be like everyone else instead of conveying a sense of originality and passion to their work. But maybe that's just me. With Opera, about 40% of the screen space is left unused. I *liked* the quick links the old one had on the sides. If you try it with a screen resolution of 800x600 it will fill all the screen ;) A fluid design can be more usable in different screen resolutions, but when you want something prettier you need to restrain the horizontal width to get a consistent look across different screen resolutions. Almost every site (with fixed width) restrains the width to less than 800 pixels so that users with an 800x600 resolution don't need to scroll horizontally. So because other sites do it it's ok here too? And *I'm* supposed to provide constructive feedback..? To me, the new site looks nicer than the old one, and I'm pretty sure most people (specially and more importantly new visitors) will find it more attractive than the old one! I agree that some people may find it more attractive. I don't. The major problem in my view is the functionality. A lot of information has been hidden, the existence of scroll bars has been forgotten and so on.. I don't want horizontal scrolling, but vertical is tried and true. It is known that it works. The expression that comes to mind is dumbing down - and not in a good way. -- Tuomo ... I'm fat. You're ugly. I can diet. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new FreeBSD-webpage
Alexander S. Usov wrote: Just pointed firefox to freebsd.org and I was greeted with a new look! ... And in general, I have already heard from quite a lot of people today that the old design was quite authentic and recognizable, while the new one looks as a quite standard portal. Yecch. All ugly and businesslike. This is what you'd expect from all sorts of companies that are all marketing and no information. You'd expect popups from the links on the top (they look like that sort of links), but none seem to appear and I've just wasted time waiting for them to appear. BTW, I pretty much hate popups because they seldom work properly and they always seem kind of sluggish. Only thing that's worse than having to use them is having something that looks like them but is not. A lot of stuff has been removed from plain sight which means more clicking and scrolling and searching and waiting. Oh yes, let's all start burying information.. Having some of the information hidden in plain sight is a nice touch. I mean that release stuff and shortcuts. The marketing BS filter behind my eyes blocks most of the content on the site pretty well as it is but that release stuff and shortcuts seem to have been designed to get filtered out. It actually requires me conscious effort to read them. With Opera, about 40% of the screen space is left unused. I *liked* the quick links the old one had on the sides. Have you tried it with lynx? Lynx Version 2.8.5rel.1 (04 Feb 2004) doesn't seem to handle XML, so when you're in a pinch with your fw/gw machine that doesn't have X installed and you quickly need to access eg. some documentation on the site, you're out of luck. The old one was better. -- Tuomo ... Our bombs are smarter than the average high school student. At least they can find Afghanistan.-- A. Whitney Brown ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd-stable@freebsd.org and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would it be possible to force the mailing list software to rename recipient header freebsd-stable@freebsd.org to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or vice versa and then remove duplicates? I mean it seems like half the people on the list use freebsd-stable@freebsd.org address and the other half [EMAIL PROTECTED] A lot of times people manage to add the missing version of the list address to their reply to someone's post and I (along with the rest of the list readers) end up getting the same message twice. It's bad enough when you get the same message twice if you get it both via pm and list, but getting two copies of the same post via list is just stupid. Any chance of having something done to change this? -- Tuomo ... Q: How many hardware engineers does it take to change a lightbulb? A: None. We'll fix it in software ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
Bill Paul wrote: You see what is says? It says Bill Paul. It does *NOT* say Paul Bill, does it now. WELL DOES IT!!?!?! Couldn't you just change your name? -- Tuomo ... I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all -- Ways for Personal Growth http://www.ericbair.com/humor/PerGrowth.txt ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange make buildworld behaviour with 5.4-RELEASE ( amd64 )
Steven Hartland wrote: Didnt get through the first time so resending :) You did get through to me, at least. (stable) Apparently you didn't get Kris Kennaway's answer either? -- Tuomo ... As Descartes said: Cogito ergo dimsum - I think, therefore I eat takeaway. -- http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/extras/toolong ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange top(1) output
Dominic Marks wrote: This includes at least the following changes (some not visible): + The entire header line is limited to the window width too. + The USERNAME column is hard-limited to 8 characters. ... I suppose it could be argued that using usernames of that format is a poor choice on my part, and if that is the consensus of opinion then I'll have to look at fixing my own setup. I use long format usernames because it do not wish to have to remember that rm5, rmoore (many other possible ways) is a particular person. finger? If this behaviour could be turned on and off, I'd be very happy. How about making it a command line parameter? The field size, I mean. -- Tuomo ... If it works, tear it apart and find out why! ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xl(4) polling
Subhro wrote: ... In Device Polled systems, the NIC does not generate any interrupt at all. Instead whenever the packets arrive at a Network interface, they are captured and put into a queue. The kernel scheduler checks the quese at regular intervals and processes the packets which are waiting. This interval is adjusted by the options HZ=x kernel option. If the value of x is very high, there may eb two scenarios. In the first scenario, the queue may fill up and subsequent packets are dropped. In this case retransmission of the packets are required. In the second scenario, the packets would be held up for excessive long times which defeats the entire purpose of Device Polling. If the value of x is very low, the scheduler would check the queue frequently and would again defeat the entire idea of Device Polling. It's the other way around. Large values indicate larger polling frequency thus amounting to more checks. Or at least the name of the option would suggest that anyway. -- Tuomo ... I can walk on water, but I stagger on alcohol ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
