Re: [Freedos-user] I need an example

2006-06-09 Thread Scott Mayo

 I would recommend trying to contact the WATT-32 library for such
 examples... and there is example code on the website, although I'm not
 sure it's c++.

I wasn't clear. Code's the only thing I don't need. It's the build scripts
(.bat files, make files, whatever) and examples of how to use the
toolchain, that I'm after. If I could use Microsoft VC++ to produce a DOS
executable (and I dearly with I could, because then I'd be done), I'd be
asking for a project file, so I could see what switches the compiler
needed, what libraries to link with, etc.




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[Freedos-user] Arachne Browser TCP/IP Setup

2006-06-09 Thread Lester Vedrox
 FX Use Arachne from this site:
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/arachne/

Thanks, Florian, for the link. I wish I could somehow get my dial-up modem 
working with Arachne:

- modem: Motorola SM56
- com3
- irq 17
- reset: ATFcr

Arachne's wizard can't find the modem and entering the above settings manually 
(non-standard port) won't help either.

Lester


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[Freedos-user] LCD

2006-06-09 Thread Carl Spitzer
I am finally considering LCD monitors.  Most probably work fine in Win32
and Linux but I wonder if any of them also work well in *DOS and Win311.

Is there a specific review page for such or a work around?

Recommendations?

CWSIV



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Re: [Freedos-user] FDISK bug (sorry I don't know how to use bugzilla)

2006-06-09 Thread Johnson Lam
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:46:52 +0300, you wrote:

Hi,

 This behavior is by design and documented. If you want to use fdos'
fdisk then you should take advantage of it's features and read before
you use it unattended in batch files. It is a drop-in replacement for
the MS counterpart, but it corrects and enhances it.

Sorry, stupid me ... read through the documents in the ZIP file but
fail to locate the skip MBR details.

Also If the Free FDISK skip writing MBR, better have an extra message
to warn the user.

I don't mind enhancement, but I don't think normal user will first
search all the documents, recite them and use it, so warning is
necessary.

 It's not a hidden rule, it's documented.

Documented but with no warning and no message after making the
partition, sorry for my stupidity but I expect it works same as
MS-FDISK because interface and usage almost the same.

 Also when you choose NOT to let FDISK create a single partition and
 did on your own, the logical drive size will be wrong. I don't know if
 anyone got this problem also.
dunno about this one.

I'll try to take a photo each screen (can't capture inside FDISK).


Rgds,
Johnson.


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[Freedos-user] SYS A: C:

2006-06-09 Thread Gerry Hickman
Hi,

Today I did this from a FreeDOS bootable CD;

1. Use FDISK to delete all primary partitions, but leave MBR
2. FDISK /PRI:2000 (2Gb FAT32 Ext13)
3. FDISK /Activate:1 (boot to first primary at next HD reboot) reboot
3. FORMAT C: say yes to confirm

I now have an empty working C: drive with FreeDOS boot sector

I insert an MS-DOS 6.22 system floppy into A: and type

SYS A: C:

(I want to install MS-DOS boot-sector, IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS to C:)

What happens next?? It installs FreeDOS boot sector, and kernel to the C 
drive!! That's not what I told it to do...

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Re: [Freedos-user] SYS A: C:

2006-06-09 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
Gerry Hickman wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Today I did this from a FreeDOS bootable CD;
 
 1. Use FDISK to delete all primary partitions, but leave MBR
 2. FDISK /PRI:2000 (2Gb FAT32 Ext13)
 3. FDISK /Activate:1 (boot to first primary at next HD reboot) reboot
 3. FORMAT C: say yes to confirm
 
 I now have an empty working C: drive with FreeDOS boot sector
 
 I insert an MS-DOS 6.22 system floppy into A: and type
 
 SYS A: C:
 
 (I want to install MS-DOS boot-sector, IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS to C:)
 
 What happens next?? It installs FreeDOS boot sector, and kernel to the C 
 drive!! That's not what I told it to do...
 

Where (what drive) are sys, kernel.sys, io.sys  msdos.sys on?
Or more clearly is kernel.sys and sys on the same (current) drive and 
the MS-DOS files (io.sys  msdos.sys) on A:, so instead of looking at 
the source drive sys appears to be using the kernel from the current 
drive?  or are all three on the same drive, in which case you must 
specify using the /OEM:MS (I think) option so that the FreeDOS kernel is 
ignored, as default search order [which you may have found a bug in] 
will assume you want boot the FreeDOS kernel before any other DOSes 
(unless sys is compiled for Enhanded DR-DOS, in which case it flips FD 
with EDR kernel names in its list).  Also please let me know which 
version of sys you are using.

Thanks,
Jeremy





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Re: [Freedos-user] IRQ 17 what?

2006-06-09 Thread Lester Vedrox
 EA irq are numbered 0 to 15, so what do you mean by irq 17?

The last IRQ on my system has number 22:

Windows XP - accessories - system tools - system information - hardware 
resources - IRQs

 EA is this a real modem or more a soundcard (winmodem)?

It seems to be a real hardware modem: Motorola SM56 Speakerphone Modem.

Windows XP - accessories - system tools - system information - components - 
modem

- attached to: COM3
- IRQ channel: 17
- reset: ATF,cr

Arachne has the last available IRQ 15 so this is probably the source of my 
problems.

 From: Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 is this a real modem or more a soundcard (winmodem)?
 can you talk to it using a terminal software like the one
 somewhere on
 http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/ (specials/ maybe)?
 
 Eric


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[Freedos-user] CauseWay DOS extender

2006-06-09 Thread Escorter
Hi!

I found a very neat open sourced DOS extender included with
Open Watcom 1.2, called CauseWay. I recompiled Shadow
Warrior source code, but instead of DOS4GW, I linked the
executable with CauseWay, and I very surprised, because the
game runs as stable as the original exe, but the exe is much
smaller... 

...But is it safe to link DOS4GW programs with CauseWay? I
didn't modified any code in the SW sources. Is CW fully
DOS4GW compatible?

I know DOS32A is fully DOS4GW compatible, but if I link SW
with DOS32A, the game locks up completely at the 3D Realms
title screen.


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Re: [Freedos-user] CauseWay DOS extender

2006-06-09 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Escorter schreef:
 ...But is it safe to link DOS4GW programs with CauseWay? I
 didn't modified any code in the SW sources. Is CW fully
 DOS4GW compatible?
   
Causeway developer Michael Devore can be found on this mailinglist, I 
think he's done a pretty good job with Dos4GW compatibility.
Check for example the FreeDOS HIMEM/EMM386 for his coding skills :)

memory extenders seem to be pretty compatible with eachother after all 
these long years of DOS development.

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[Freedos-user] alternate with hp notebook with freedos

2006-06-09 Thread Eric Auer

Hi, I just realized that the cheapo HP which you can
get from Alternate ships with FreeDOS:

http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?artno=PN5H01showTechData=true

Sempron 3100+ / 256 MB / Radeon X200 X300 / 40 GB / DVDRW / 15in 1024x768 /
GBit LAN / WLAN / Modem / USB / FireWire / TVOUT / 2.7kg / 33x3x27cm / FreeDOS

I would say having FreeDOS is the only cool part of the otherwise
very basic specs, but then, what do you expect for 580 Euros? ;-)


I hope it is at least a recent version of FreeDOS, maybe
even a bit more than kernel and shell? Interesting enough,
the specs say that FreeDOS is already preinstalled on harddisk.

Eric

PS: For comparison, Alternate also has one Linux notebook...
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?artno=PN9F25showTechData=true
Fujitsu Siemens for 620 Euros... Celeron M370 (less cool than Sempron imho),
256 MB / VIA VN800 / 15in 1024x768 / UniChrome / 40 GB / DVDRW / LAN / WLAN /
Modem / USB / 2.6 kg / 33x4x28cm / Linux (does not tell which version...)

(All other notebooks at alternate come with SOME version of WinXP...)



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Re: [Freedos-user] IRQ 17 what?

2006-06-09 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

9-Июн-2006 15:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lester Vedrox) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

   EA irq are numbered 0 to 15, so what do you mean by irq 17?
LV The last IRQ on my system has number 22:

  IRQ numbers above 15 are function of Advanced PIC (APIC), which isn't
supported in (old) DOS programs. And I don't know, how they implemented and
how hard they support (in DOS).

   EA is this a real modem or more a soundcard (winmodem)?
LV It seems to be a real hardware modem: Motorola SM56 Speakerphone Modem.

  AFAIR, this is winmodem...

LV - attached to: COM3
LV - IRQ channel: 17
LV - reset: ATF,cr

  ...and COM ports emultion is an function of Windows driver.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Browser TCP/IP Setup

2006-06-09 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hi

It is because it is a winmodem
(i have one)

AFAIK, DOS doesn't support winmodems...

Geraldo

On 09/06/06, Lester Vedrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  FX Use Arachne from this site:
  http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/arachne/

 Thanks, Florian, for the link. I wish I could somehow get my dial-up modem 
 working with Arachne:

 - modem: Motorola SM56
 - com3
 - irq 17
 - reset: ATFcr

 Arachne's wizard can't find the modem and entering the above settings 
 manually (non-standard port) won't help either.

 Lester


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Re: [Freedos-user] LCD

2006-06-09 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

8-Июн-2006 08:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Spitzer) wrote to FreeDOS
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

CS I am finally considering LCD monitors.  Most probably work fine in Win32
CS and Linux but I wonder if any of them also work well in *DOS and Win311.

  OS doesn't depend from display type, video APIs and interface doesn't
differs between LCD/CRT.


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Re: [Freedos-user] I need an example

2006-06-09 Thread Blair Campbell
On 6/9/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 8-Июн-2006 23:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Mayo) wrote to
 freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

 SM Does anyone have a build environment they'd be interested in sharing,
 that
 SM I can unpack onto a WIn XP system and get running in a few hours? A
 SM compiler installation .zip, and a .bat file that assembles and links
 SM sample C++ code and the WATT-32 library should be all I need...

We (I) may help you by answering precise questions. For example,
 which
 compiler to select, how to run compilation, which optimization options
 better to use, etc.

For example, for OpenWatcom, download distributive (official 62 Mb
 .exe installer or recently announced distributive in .zips), then place
 compiler where you want, configure it (define environment variables, as
 described in readme.txt), then compile your application wcl app.cpp. Whats
 all.

If no one deal before with precise library, to no one will/may answer
 to you questions, how to link in this library to your application.

 PS: There is bug in OpenWatcom binw\wlink, when it produces correpted
 executable, when runs in DOSbox. So, you should be sure, that under Windows
 you run tools from binnt\, not binw\ directory.

Which is the way it SHOULD be anyways :-)  ( Why would anyone want to
use DOS hosted tools if they're running windows??)

 PPS: OpenWatcom also contains IDE, from where you may build your application
 for any available target.


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Re: [Freedos-user] I need an example

2006-06-09 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

9-Июн-2006 21:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

   PS: There is bug in OpenWatcom binw\wlink, when it produces correpted
   executable, when runs in DOSbox. So, you should be sure, that under 
Windows
   you run tools from binnt\, not binw\ directory.
BC Which is the way it SHOULD be anyways  :-)   ( Why would anyone want to
BC use DOS hosted tools if they're running windows??)

1. Common configuration files (with pathes).
2. Why not?
3. binw\wlink doesn't rejects to run - it works, but _silently_ produces
corrupted executable (some offsets in code calculated wrong).


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Re: [Freedos-user] winmodems

2006-06-09 Thread chris evans
The guys ta linmodems.org have got some OSS drivers to work with 
winmodems under linux.  Maybe something opensource can be ported to dos 
as a .sys file.

--chris
http://nxdos.sourceforge.net/

Geraldo Netto wrote:

Hi

It is because it is a winmodem
(i have one)

AFAIK, DOS doesn't support winmodems...

Geraldo

On 09/06/06, Lester Vedrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  





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Re: [Freedos-user] I need an example

2006-06-09 Thread Blair Campbell
I would consider it more of a bug in Windows' emulation of DOS...

Also, in my experience, Win32 executables tend to run faster than DOS
executables on Windows.

On 6/9/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 9-Июн-2006 21:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to
 freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

PS: There is bug in OpenWatcom binw\wlink, when it produces correpted
executable, when runs in DOSbox. So, you should be sure, that under
 Windows
you run tools from binnt\, not binw\ directory.
 BC Which is the way it SHOULD be anyways  :-)   ( Why would anyone want to
 BC use DOS hosted tools if they're running windows??)

 1. Common configuration files (with pathes).
 2. Why not?
 3. binw\wlink doesn't rejects to run - it works, but _silently_ produces
 corrupted executable (some offsets in code calculated wrong).


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