Re: [Freedos-user] install
Hi, On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Péter Szőke wrote: > Dear Members, > > Is there any way to install the Freedos from USB stick/Pendrive to HDD. Why install to HDD? Why not just use a bootable USB as if it were your HDD? > I have a notebook without optical drive. > The notebook has Windows 10 certification. That's not very specific. We need OEM name, model number, BIOS vendor, cpuid, etc > I have tried some program for example Rufus, but I could not solve. RUFUS wouldn't run? Or it ran but didn't find or write to your USB? Or your USB wouldn't boot natively? Or the USB booted but couldn't run? Or it ran but couldn't install? If RUFUS didn't work, did you try anything else? UNetBootIn? Other?? * http://unetbootin.github.io/ * https://wiki.debian.org/FlashBIOS * http://joelinoff.com/blog/?p=431 > The main problem was that : the pendrive was the only visible drive. So you could successfully run DOS programs from the booted USB? > I could change the drive but after every restart, the installer did not find > my partitions. Change what drive? Find what partitions? You mean FAT or NTFS? > So, I could not choose the number '1' option which is start the setup. > > May I please beg an explanation. The normal way to install DOS is: fdisk (create DOS partition), reboot, format (FAT), sys (create boot sector, adjust MBR, copy kernel and shell if needed). You don't really need to do any other fancy methods. But again, if your USB is booting and working and has DOS on it, why bother with HDD at all?? P.S. Is your notebook completely barren? Does it have no other OS on it? Have you tried installing anything else on it? Is that what you're really trying to do, using FreeDOS at a means to help install something else? Or is that the problem, that it "only" has Windows 10? (You know you can also install FreeDOS under a virtual machine, right? It's not hard.) -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
>Its BIOS has Legacy USB support and it is enabled. My bad, I meant to check for UEFI or Legacy option for your hard drive operating system. For example, I have an ACER E5-571 and to use FreeDOS I must choose the Legacy option, but I still am limited to SATA only there is no IDE option. To intall FreeDOS I must use the Intel AHCI.SYS driver and then I install from the ISO file via the SHSUCDHD.EXE driver. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Péter Szőke wrote: > I will try answer to everyone. > > So, I have this model: > > Asus k501lx-dm045d > > Its BIOS has Legacy USB support and it is > > Enabled. > > "Why install to HDD? Why not just use a > > bootable USB as if it were your HDD?" > > My service asked me. If I want a repair, > > Ihave to bring back to them the notebook > > in its original state. > When buoght this notebook it had freedos > > operating system. > > "RUFUS wouldn't run? Or it ran but didn't > > find or write to your USB? Or > your USB wouldn't boot natively? Or the > > USB booted but couldn't run? > Or it ran but couldn't install?" > > I could make a bootable pendrive by Rufus, > > but I could not install the freedos from > > it. > > > I sent my notebook with a formatted HDD. > I hope they will not complaining. > > Any way,I really appreciate your help. > > Thank you very much! > > However,I am still courius how should I install to HDD. smiley > > 2016-03-18 5:54 GMT+01:00 Rugxulo : > >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Péter Szőke >> wrote: >> > Dear Members, >> > >> > Is there any way to install the Freedos from USB stick/Pendrive to HDD. >> >> Why install to HDD? Why not just use a bootable USB as if it were your >> HDD? >> >> > I have a notebook without optical drive. >> > The notebook has Windows 10 certification. >> >> That's not very specific. We need OEM name, model number, BIOS vendor, >> cpuid, etc >> >> > I have tried some program for example Rufus, but I could not solve. >> >> RUFUS wouldn't run? Or it ran but didn't find or write to your USB? Or >> your USB wouldn't boot natively? Or the USB booted but couldn't run? >> Or it ran but couldn't install? >> >> If RUFUS didn't work, did you try anything else? UNetBootIn? Other?? >> >> * http://unetbootin.github.io/ >> * https://wiki.debian.org/FlashBIOS >> * http://joelinoff.com/blog/?p=431 >> >> > The main problem was that : the pendrive was the only visible drive. >> >> So you could successfully run DOS programs from the booted USB? >> >> > I could change the drive but after every restart, the installer did not >> find >> > my partitions. >> >> Change what drive? Find what partitions? You mean FAT or NTFS? >> >> > So, I could not choose the number '1' option which is start the setup. >> > >> > May I please beg an explanation. >> >> The normal way to install DOS is: fdisk (create DOS partition), >> reboot, format (FAT), sys (create boot sector, adjust MBR, copy kernel >> and shell if needed). >> >> You don't really need to do any other fancy methods. But again, if >> your USB is booting and working and has DOS on it, why bother with HDD >> at all?? >> >> P.S. Is your notebook completely barren? Does it have no other OS on >> it? Have you tried installing anything else on it? Is that what you're >> really trying to do, using FreeDOS at a means to help install >> something else? Or is that the problem, that it "only" has Windows 10? >> (You know you can also install FreeDOS under a virtual machine, right? >> It's not hard.) >> >> >> -- >> Transform Data into Opportunity. >> Accelerate data analysis in your applications with >> Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. >> Click to learn more. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > > > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
On 3/17/2016 6:04 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > PS - Check you BIOS and enable legacy support. > Anyone wanna take bets that this laptop only has an UEFI BIOS, and no legacy BIOS anymore? Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
One important aspect is the ability to turn off secure boot and Legacy BIOS support, not just Legacy USB support. More and more of these low-end devices have Secure Boot turned on and can't be turned off, and even then some of them don't boot OSes that don't have UEFI bootloaders. I have an HP Stream 7 that won't boot anything except Windows because it doesn't have Legacy boot support. I can turn off secure boot, but that doesn't help me much. Corbin On Mar 19, 2016 7:46 PM, "Rugxulo" wrote: > Hi again, > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Péter Szőke > wrote: > > > > I will try answer to everyone. > > > > So, I have this model: Asus k501lx-dm045d > > A quick search finds this: > > https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/K501LX/ > > They are very reminiscent of Apple with that page. I don't see any > mentions of FreeDOS or even Linux (which is presumably who the minimal > setup is actually intended for). > > "ASUS recommends Windows." (They seemingly only offer it with Win 10, > Home or Pro.) > > > Its BIOS has Legacy USB support and it is Enabled. > > Are you sure it's a proper BIOS and not UEFI? (The webpage does say > "BIOS Booting User Password Protection" under Security.) > > > "Why install to HDD? Why not just use a bootable USB as if it were your > HDD?" > > > > My service asked me. If I want a repair, > > > > I have to bring back to them the notebook in its original state. > > I'm no tech guru, but I doubt they expect you to reinstall FreeDOS (of > all things)! Presumably they just want all the physical parts, papers, > etc. Whoever put FreeDOS on there in the first place certainly knows > how to do it again. > > > When bought this notebook it had freedos operating system. > > I believe you, but I don't see that option presented online. > > > I could make a bootable pendrive by Rufus, but I could not install the > freedos from it. > > Did it say it wouldn't write correctly? Was there an error message? Or > it just didn't boot properly? Or are you saying that you expected > RUFUS (AFAIK, only meant for USB) to directly install to HDD for you?? > > > I sent my notebook with a formatted HDD. > > I hope they will not complaining. > > I doubt it, they aren't putting FreeDOS intending it for much use. > (BTW, this implies that you tried installing something else later? > What mainstream OS did you try to use instead? Ubuntu? Why else avoid > pre-installed Windows? Maybe you already had a valid license?) > > > Any way,I really appreciate your help. > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > However,I am still courius how should I install to HDD. smiley > > First, make sure your laptop is not in the mail being returned to OEM! > :-P > > FD 1.2 is (almost?) in beta with FDI (installer), so that will > eventually be the preferred way to get the "full" FreeDOS. > > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
Hi again, On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Péter Szőke wrote: > > I will try answer to everyone. > > So, I have this model: Asus k501lx-dm045d A quick search finds this: https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/K501LX/ They are very reminiscent of Apple with that page. I don't see any mentions of FreeDOS or even Linux (which is presumably who the minimal setup is actually intended for). "ASUS recommends Windows." (They seemingly only offer it with Win 10, Home or Pro.) > Its BIOS has Legacy USB support and it is Enabled. Are you sure it's a proper BIOS and not UEFI? (The webpage does say "BIOS Booting User Password Protection" under Security.) > "Why install to HDD? Why not just use a bootable USB as if it were your HDD?" > > My service asked me. If I want a repair, > > I have to bring back to them the notebook in its original state. I'm no tech guru, but I doubt they expect you to reinstall FreeDOS (of all things)! Presumably they just want all the physical parts, papers, etc. Whoever put FreeDOS on there in the first place certainly knows how to do it again. > When bought this notebook it had freedos operating system. I believe you, but I don't see that option presented online. > I could make a bootable pendrive by Rufus, but I could not install the > freedos from it. Did it say it wouldn't write correctly? Was there an error message? Or it just didn't boot properly? Or are you saying that you expected RUFUS (AFAIK, only meant for USB) to directly install to HDD for you?? > I sent my notebook with a formatted HDD. > I hope they will not complaining. I doubt it, they aren't putting FreeDOS intending it for much use. (BTW, this implies that you tried installing something else later? What mainstream OS did you try to use instead? Ubuntu? Why else avoid pre-installed Windows? Maybe you already had a valid license?) > Any way,I really appreciate your help. > > Thank you very much! > > However,I am still courius how should I install to HDD. smiley First, make sure your laptop is not in the mail being returned to OEM! :-P FD 1.2 is (almost?) in beta with FDI (installer), so that will eventually be the preferred way to get the "full" FreeDOS. -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
The only way that I know of that *might* work is if you have access to linux where you use a linux DD command so that the USB would show up as the A: drive - if you are not in a hurry, I will experiement over the weekend, Meanwhile have you seen this site? http://www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/ The FreeDOS image is not up to date but it should be good for a trial run. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Péter Szőke wrote: > Dear Members, > > Is there any way to install the Freedos from USB stick/Pendrive to HDD. > I have a notebook without optical drive. > The notebook has Windows 10 certification. > I have tried some program for example Rufus, but I could not solve. > The main problem was that : the pendrive was the only visible drive. > I could change the drive but after every restart, the installer did not > find my partitions. > So, I could not choose the number '1' option which is start the setup. > > May I please beg an explanation. > > > Sincerely > > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit
Interesting. I won't be able to test this here until next week, but thanks for the promising lead! On 3/16/2016 4:24 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > I may have found a solution for your EDIT / Mouse issue. On one of my > PC's (an old Compaq) I use this driver: > http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?sp4ts.oid=92231&swItemId=PSG_I8512_18797&swEnvOid=139 > > SP2259,EXE Logitech Mouse > which has a DOS enhancement for mouse sensitivity, speed etc. > One of the options is a blink option - I tried it today and when I set > it to blink my mouse cursor actually stabilized when using FreeDOS Edit. > You might give it a try and see how it does on your machine. > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit
I may have found a solution for your EDIT / Mouse issue. On one of my PC's (an old Compaq) I use this driver: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?sp4ts.oid=92231&swItemId=PSG_I8512_18797&swEnvOid=139 SP2259,EXE Logitech Mouse which has a DOS enhancement for mouse sensitivity, speed etc. One of the options is a blink option - I tried it today and when I set it to blink my mouse cursor actually stabilized when using FreeDOS Edit. You might give it a try and see how it does on your machine. On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I buy a lot of cheap used. Get rid of the old garbage. Besides > they come setup for a camera not a puter. The mbr contains a startup > program > for a camera. Besides a lot of flash chips are fakes. > When you format them the fakes stand out. An 8 gig chip > might reformat as a 2 gig because it really is a 2 gig chip > with the mbr doctored. > Thanks for the link. > > cheers > DS > > > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:02:41 -0500 dmccunney > writes: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner > > wrote: > > > My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet. > > > It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk. > > > Still learning how to get this Android to work well. > > > > Try > > http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip > > as an alternate source for SETEDIT. > > > > > You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly. > > > I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100 > > adapter. > > > They're almost as fast as a CF chip. > > > > They come formatted as FAT32 out of the box. Why would you need to > > format one? > > > > > cheers > > > DS > > __ > > Dennis > > > > > - > - > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application > > Performance > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > ** > >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry > http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 > *** > > > > NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 > > > -- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] install
Dear Members, Is there any way to install the Freedos from USB stick/Pendrive to HDD. I have a notebook without optical drive. The notebook has Windows 10 certification. I have tried some program for example Rufus, but I could not solve. The main problem was that : the pendrive was the only visible drive. I could change the drive but after every restart, the installer did not find my partitions. So, I could not choose the number '1' option which is start the setup. May I please beg an explanation. Sincerely -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
PS - Check you BIOS and enable legacy support. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > The only way that I know of that *might* work is if you have access to > linux where you use a linux DD command so that the USB would show up as the > A: drive - if you are not in a hurry, I will experiement over the weekend, > Meanwhile have you seen this site? > > http://www.chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/ > > The FreeDOS image is not up to date but it should be good for a trial run. > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Péter Szőke > wrote: > >> Dear Members, >> >> Is there any way to install the Freedos from USB stick/Pendrive to HDD. >> I have a notebook without optical drive. >> The notebook has Windows 10 certification. >> I have tried some program for example Rufus, but I could not solve. >> The main problem was that : the pendrive was the only visible drive. >> I could change the drive but after every restart, the installer did not >> find my partitions. >> So, I could not choose the number '1' option which is start the setup. >> >> May I please beg an explanation. >> >> >> Sincerely >> >> >> -- >> Transform Data into Opportunity. >> Accelerate data analysis in your applications with >> Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. >> Click to learn more. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] install
I'm guessing that may well be the case. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 3/17/2016 6:04 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > > PS - Check you BIOS and enable legacy support. > > > Anyone wanna take bets that this laptop only has an UEFI BIOS, and no > legacy BIOS anymore? > > Ralf > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785231&iu=/4140___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
