Re: [Freedos-user] USB Floppy

2020-11-15 Thread Ralf Quint

On 11/15/2020 6:27 AM, Marv wrote:
I was under the impression an external USB floppy wouldn't work under 
FreeDOS 1.3, but I just noticed my installationĀ of FreeDOS 1.3 on a 
circa 2011 Gateway laptop with an external USB Chuanganzhuo floppy 
does work.


I'm not sure what driver FreeDOS is using onĀ the Gateway, but if I 
plug the floppy into my HP Windows 10 laptop, it says it's a TEAC USB 
UF1000x USB device using a default Windows sfloppy.sys driver. It was 
plug-n-play. I didn't install any drivers on either laptop.


I didn't buy this floppy drive for FreeDOS. My main FreeDOS machine 
has a builtin floppy drive. I bought it to read some old floppies on 
my HP Windows 10 laptop.


I am using USB floppy drives to exchange data between my Windows PC(s) 
and my FreeDOS box(es). They work just fine on all of my DOS machine as 
long as it floppy drive is connected when the machine is turned on. The 
BIOS of all machines in this case (2x Dell, 1x Compaq) just presents it 
as a standard 3.5" floppy drive. Hot swap of course doesn't work, but 
that hasn't really bothered me at all so far...


Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS/16M (was: FreeDOS 1.2 installed on iMac (2011) - success but there are issues)

2020-11-15 Thread Hollowone PL
Yep, that is correct. Due to it, I had to recompile my own OpenWatcom build
using a different extender for runtime to continue using it (which is fine).
I also continue investigating the root cause of that limitation. Just spoke
to rEFInd developer to assess his opinion. Seems that he shares one of the
comments from this thread, that there is most likely a limitation of
CSM/BIOS implementation in Apple's own EFI implementation of the Legacy
mode.

But as this is nothing you can't go around with, it's not a show stopper to
me to continue testing the environment.

To wrap this up I wanted to thank you for identifying the direction for
further investigation (keyboard controller with limited BIOS/CSM
compatibility on the platform and a bug/trigger in DOS4GW that is
generating the crash + error as the final outcome).

I'm instantly glad that I've joined the group. Very competent and quick
feedback that helped me keep the problem analysis narrow.

Thank you,
/h1




On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 6:23 AM TK Chia  wrote:

> Hello Ralf Quint,
>
> > I am not sure if you guys all missed a previous post where I said I
> > found a reference that there are issues with some SMM BIOS
> > implementations, providing legacy USB support (for keyboard and mice)
> > and software that is trying to switch in "long mode" (which also might
> > be used by some memory managers).
> > Which could simply mean that this no-so-PC BIOS in that Mac just isn't
> > up to snuff for these kind of things...
>
> Well, we do have some detailed information about this particular error.
> Namely, there is a message saying "DOS/16M: [26] 8042 timeout", and
> using a different DOS extender or pre-loading a DPMI host seems to work
> around it.
>
> Thank you!
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Re: [Freedos-user] USB Floppy

2020-11-15 Thread Eric Auer


Hi Marv,

> I'm not sure what driver FreeDOS is using on the Gateway, but if I plug the
> floppy into my HP Windows 10 laptop, it says it's a TEAC USB UF1000x USB

FreeDOS does not use any USB driver by default, as far as I know.

So you probably have USB storage device support in your BIOS and
FreeDOS simply enjoys using the BIOS disk :-) In particular after
booting from it, or when having it already connected during boot.

Note that sizes other than 1.44 MB or low level formatting might
not be working in your BIOS USB floppy support, but you can try.

Regards, Eric



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[Freedos-user] USB Floppy

2020-11-15 Thread Marv
I was under the impression an external USB floppy wouldn't work under
FreeDOS 1.3, but I just noticed my installation of FreeDOS 1.3 on a circa
2011 Gateway laptop with an external USB Chuanganzhuo floppy does work.

I'm not sure what driver FreeDOS is using on the Gateway, but if I plug the
floppy into my HP Windows 10 laptop, it says it's a TEAC USB UF1000x USB
device using a default Windows sfloppy.sys driver. It was plug-n-play. I
didn't install any drivers on either laptop.

I didn't buy this floppy drive for FreeDOS. My main FreeDOS machine has a
builtin floppy drive. I bought it to read some old floppies on my HP
Windows 10 laptop.

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