Re: [Freedos-user] PCI parlallel port card....
On 5/19/2024 2:25 AM, Frantisek Rysanek via Freedos-user wrote: Are there any PCI cards that live at IO adress 378 so they are compatible with DOS ? I'd argue that the devil's in "subtle detail", and forecast hard cheese for you :-/ In order to decode the IOport window at 0x378 by a PCI card, this has to be supported by the chipset (probably south bridge) and the BIOS of the motherboard where you are trying this. I don't know how the PCI card that was linked to handles this, but if the card itself adds an onboard ROM BIOS which patches into the default calls for the parallel port functions and traps the (otherwise non-existent, hence adding the card) ISA (port) address space, this will work rather transparent. But I can only remember one card, which I used probably +25 years ago, what was doing that fine. And that was a card that I remember was at a rather premium price point, al those cheap "made in Shenzen" PCI cards had the actual ports in PCI (port) address space, maybe patched some BIOS routines, but certainly only worked with some specialty drivers which would have to handle the access to those high PCI port numbers and commonly would NOT just work seamlessly with any old software that was trying to access the parallel (or serial) port... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?
On 5/18/2024 3:56 PM, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: Does spinright still have a dos version of their software posted anywhere? I seem to recall, that was a really good utility. I unfortunately never had the money to purchase it, and I gave up on Norton Utilities after paying 50 bucks more for the advanced version of 4.5, then got the same upgrade price as those who didn't, so I considered that bad marketing, poor customer retention, and just bailed on the whole Norton brand, and never dropped another dollar on anything Norton related, and that continues to this day. I know spinright had some upgrades from their dos package into the early windows era, but I lost track after that, so no clue where it is now, or even if it's still around. Nonetheless, it was a good utility for hard disk maintenance when it was out. SpinWite was a useful tool for floppy disks, but it rather sucked when using it with hard drive... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
On 2/22/2024 7:43 PM, DAMON GRAY wrote: Augh!! Ralf, that's so much not what I wanted to hear. Don't kill the messenger! LOL But, it is what it is. I was under the impression that FreeDos had dealt with the USB peripheral issue. Well, no. Just what exactly gave you that impression? No DOS is "USB aware", this is something that became mainstream AFTER the official DoD (Death of DOS). FreeDOS (just as any DOS) depends on the USB support in the BIOS of the machine it is running on. I have yet to find an older computer, with a proper BIOS (instead of (U)EFI) that would be required to run (Free)DOS in the first place, that would not work with a USB keyboard and/or mouse. Well, one exception is a weird HP Brio that would not work with a USB keyboard to actually get into the BIOS, so I had to keep a PS/2 keyboard around for that one. But it would work fine with USB keyboard and mouse once booted into the OS (any OS, I played with a couple the last time I had that machine out of storage). And CuteMouse has been working fine for me, without much fuss, on any machine, with any mouse, that I had the urge to use with a mouse. Don't play games though, so depending what your use case is, YMMV... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
On 2/22/2024 7:18 PM, DAMON GRAY via Freedos-user wrote: Greetings all. I have a working MS-DOS system running on 6.2.2 but it has gigantical problems with the USB Mouse. I've attempted multiple USB DOS driver solutions. Some work half the time. Others not so much. I'm working on the assumption that FreeDos will handle the USB mouse and keyboard. But here's the challenge... I don't want to start from scratch. There was a lot involved in getting this system set up as it is, particularly with regard to the Gravis Ultrasound card. Is it possible to just "upgrade" this MS-DOS to FreeDos, or is starting from scratch my only option? I'm very much hoping that I'll be able install FreeDos over the top of MS-DOS. Thanks for any advice you can offer. Yes, you could just "sys" the existing drive, in order to transfer the FreeDOS kernel/basic system files. But honestly, I doubt that this will solve your problems, as using a mouse, ANY mouse, is not an issue of the OS being used, as neither MS-DOS 6.22 nor FreeDOS have any mouse support/capabilities in the basic OS. To get mouse support, you would need additional drivers, which would be the same drivers for both systems. And there is no direct USB support in FreeDOS either, so in order to use a USB mouse, you kind of depend on the support of the BIOS in that machine to support the USB to PS/2/serial mouse conversion. That means your basic problem is with your hardware, one way or another... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] AUTO SHIFT keyboard on DOS??
On 2/9/2024 11:25 AM, Thomas Cornelius Desi wrote: Well, if it would work, changing the keyboard should be an easy task. / E bay has c a couple of accessible AT Keyboards ) Thanks for considering the problem! Well, a XT/PC keyboard will only work with an XT or PC, and an AT keyboard will only work with an AT type of computer. Because of the location of the keyboard controller, you can't just switch them between those types of computers, unless you have one of those keyboards that have an "XT/AT" switch to enable or disable the keyboard controller (and actually, the data protocol between computer and keyboard changes as well)... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] AUTO SHIFT keyboard on DOS??
Are you guys trying to have DOS behave like macOS? Beside that any trickery with the keyboard controller would only work on an AT keyboard, where the controller chip is actually on the motherboard of the computer, and thus accessible with an I/O port, on XT/PC keyboards the controller is in the keyboard itself and not/far less accessible for any programming.. Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MSdos 7.1 question
On 11/3/2023 5:55 AM, Alain Mouette via Freedos-user wrote: Hi, I would like to clarify some things: FreeDOS is limited to 2Gb files, some special programs can use 4Gb (full 32 bits sector number) but it is not the norm. In which way is "FreeDOS" limited to 2GB sized files? (Sorry, never bothered wit such large files on DOS (any DOS)? The file size entry in the FAT32 directory entry is a 4 byte integer. As a filesize can't be negative, this should be a UINT_32/unsigned long and thus allow for files up to 4GB. If the FAT32 enabled file functions of INT 21h do handle this properly with a unsigned long, any program that does the same and the programmer of an application didn't get lazy and just assumes "signed long is big enough for everyone", then this should be a problem of that application, not FreeDOS. If the respective routines in the FreeDOS kernel do in fact handle the FAT32 file size entry as a signed long, than this is a bug that needs to be fixed IMHO... FAT32 is free, but IIRC there a patents problems with other newer formats FAT32 itself was never patented, it was the long file name format and handling that was covered by patents, which by now have expired. exFAT is not really an extension like FAT12->FAT16->FAT32 where and doesn't have such limitations, just doesn't have all that journal stuff that is included in NTFS, which has become the standard file system ever since Windows 2000 (and Microsoft intentionally limits the use/format of FAT32 partitions larger than 32GB). Disk size is not a problem, I have routinely installed very big partitions and FreeDOS can handle that just fine. Remember that FerrDOS has evolved a lot over time. Disk size limit should be 8TB, just like with any other FAT32 implementation. Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
On 11/1/2023 12:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: I am sorry if this question is very very silly. My goal is to extract, not to create a 7zip file. The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? Well, there is one executable to do it all. You just give it a different command, "a" to create/add to a ZIP/7Z file, "t" to list the files inside, and "x" to "eXtract". Just check the readme.txt Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] gminer.exe game needs an emulation friendly wait_vsync()
On 10/2/2023 5:13 PM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user wrote:
I discovered that if I comment out the two while (in vga.c):
void wait_vsync()
{
//while (inportb(0x3da) & 8);
//while (!(inportb(0x3da) & 8));
}
Then the game under dosbox run just like under VirtualBox.
I have tried all the available options for emulated graphics "card"
under VirtualBox... no change.
So... I guess what I/we need, is a more emulation friendly
wait_vsync() function.
That is the VSync check that was required on true CGA cards to avoid
flickering/"snow" when writing anything to the screen.
This is something that is not required on any monochrome adapter (MDA,
Hercules) or on any video cards EGA and newer. Ideally (it does so in my
screen writing libraries), this wait loop should just be executed if
indeed a CGA adapter, and none other, is installed in a system. I am not
sure if any VM, be it DOSBOX or VirtualBox is actually emulating this
very specific hardware issue and access to that specific 6845 port...
Ralf
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Re: [Freedos-user] Candyman?
On 9/14/2023 1:15 AM, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! Does anybody here know the user nicknamed Candyman? There is a strange thread on BTTR started by that account, maybe somebody could contact Candyman via another channel and ask what has happened. Regards, Eric You do not take this serious don't you? Sorry, but that smells more than just fishy from a continent away There are so many things in those post that just don't make any sense. "My name is CandyMan and my parents give me heroin. Track my IP to find me, but just in case, here is my address". Also naming all those names and addresses. Looks to me more like some attempt on doxing/swating someone Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Sound is too loud when running a BOOM source port
On 8/15/2023 3:28 AM, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 18:36, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: Well, Liam, you owe me a full cup of coffee (I might be able to salvage the keyboard)... :-D (I saw the to/too typo the second I hit "send"...) Well, that was not what caused my little accident... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Sound is too loud when running a BOOM source port
On 8/10/2023 10:11 AM, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 at 18:00, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: Any idea on what should I do? This seems to obvious to mention, but hey... Turn the volume knob on your speakers down? Well, Liam, you owe me a full cup of coffee (I might be able to salvage the keyboard)... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
On 8/6/2023 2:35 PM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user wrote: First… There seems to be a general misunderstanding that DOS only supports 80x25 columns. While it is possible that an extremely lazy programmer would hard code for that resolution, most did not. Even back in the early days the display could be in 40x25, 80x43, 80x50 and numerous other text resolutions. Through the use of special text mode fonts, most VGA cards could even support different font heights producing very unusual display resolutions such as 80x20, 80x16, 40x22, etc. Therefore it was always a bad idea to hard code support for a single display resolution into software. Sorry, Jerome, but that is all beside the point. The OP is not trying a different text resolution, but is trying to force a graphics mode, which will NEVER work with any basic DOS text mode program. Yes, it is possible, at least on legacy hardware, to get text resolutions other than 80x25 and 40x25 (as well as 80x43 on an EGA adapter and 80x50 on a VGA adapter), but those are HIGHLY legacy hardware depended, as they rely on directly manipulating the VGA adapters sync registers. I used to write and use a tool myself that could generate up to 132x60 character text screens, on the right VGA hardware. HOWEVER, on a lot of newer video card/chips, this direct manipulation doesn't work anymore, as those newer chips simply do not support the sync of the video signal in the same way as undocumented ways of the original VGA adapters allowed. On some, you will actually damage the hardware, as you are generating out of bounds frequencies, on some, simply nothing will happen, either no change or simply a turning of the video signal, resulting in a black screen, from which only a cold boot and subsequent re-initialization of the video hardware will recover from. It will also no work on a lot of LCD/LED screens, which do no sync the video signal like old CRT monitors did. Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
On 8/6/2023 1:37 PM, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: Hello! Just tested it. It changes the resolution, but now I just don't see anything. I tried doing Ctrl+C exiting it but to no avail :( Any reason why could this happen? Because you don't pay attention to the replies you get. DOS is using *text *mode, you just can't select a*graphics *mode and expect to get text output in that mode. *Text* mode and *graphics* mode are, as far as DOS and most DOS based applications are concerned, two _mutually exclusive modes of operation_. And btw, 80x25 character text mode in fact is technically a 640x480 "VGA mode" (using the standard 8x16 character matrix, 80x8=640 and 25*16-480). Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
On 8/6/2023 5:39 AM, EdzUp via Freedos-user wrote: Hi all, I could cobble together a Command line app to chuck the system into VGA/SVGA resolutions :) -Ed EdzUp And what would this going to be accomplishing? Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
On 8/6/2023 2:51 AM, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: A VGA resolution (?), 640x480 resolution so the text doesn't look messy when I am cURLing a website, for example, or when the --help parameter is too long. There seem to be a serious misconception on your end. FreeDOS, like any DOS, works only in text mode, so you can't just select any graphics mode on the console. The text modes "look" is determined by the characters set in the BIOS of the modes available, which in short, would be 80x25 on a monochrome (Hercules) adapter (MODE MONO) and both in monochrome/"black" with 80x25 and 40x25 for ANY color adapter (CO40/CO80, BW40/BW80). You can NOT select any graphics resolution (like the VGA 640x480) on the console/command prompt. DOS is by all means text based and any graphics mode would be set by a DOS application only, including but not limited to GUIs like GEM or Windows (1.x, 2.x, 3.x) but it is those applications responsibility to handle drivers, resolutions and selected fonts... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I change screen resolution?
On 8/5/2023 5:08 PM, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: This question may been asked a million times but I just can't figure it out, and googling it gives no results (except telling me that I need to use `mode` and some parameters but this just wouldn't give me what I am trying to achieve) But I found out that `NANSI.SYS` contains a paramter which (I think) allows me to set at least 640x480 resolution. I also included it (nansi.sys) in FDCONFIG.SYS with parameters `/t18` but it doesnt seem to work. Any idea on what could be the issue or I need to do it the other way? What screen resolution? By all practical means, DOS runs in text mode, 80x25 characters. What is it that you want to change to? Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I update certificates in FreeDOS?
On 8/5/2023 1:02 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: And yes Ralf, if the servers or companies have strict security standards requiring newer protocol versions, then curl will fail or will eventually fail to communicate with them. Well, he stated that an attempt to use http instead failed, so I wouldn't have expected that any fallback in curl or wget would succeed. This is why the proxy support is a better solution today. The system hosting the proxy can be newer and support the newest security standards for older systems. Again, why not use that host that you would use for that proxy for whatever curl/wget transfer you want to do? It seems to be always as a rather futile endeavor to force something like this onto (Free)DOS when this is pretty much a non-issue with any more modern, Internet-aware, operating system. And yes, doing this through a 3rd party proxy is certainly a less than secure and thus preferred option... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I update certificates in FreeDOS?
On 8/5/2023 12:51 PM, Louis Santillan via Freedos-user wrote: Don’t do anything that requires security (banking, personal info, connecting to work) if you decide to use a 3rd party proxy. All of these proxies can potentially see your credentials and sensitive information. It would be best to stand up your own proxy if your technically capable of doing so. Seriously? Why not use a Linux host, with proper encryption protocol support in the first place? What you suggest looks to me just like another "von hinten durch die Brust ins Auge" issue.. Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I update certificates in FreeDOS?
On 8/5/2023 12:37 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: zerofive, you did not provide us actual error messages. We can only speculate. At least with curl on Linux, you can bypass cert checks with “-k”. If you still believe it’s certs and you have a known good certificate and private key, you pass them as “--cert” and “--key”, respectively. wget has similar arguments as well. The general problem here is, as I already mentioned, more likely the lack of support of current encryption protocols rather than the use of any certificate by those protocols. And any bypass you mentioned is likely just a way to fall back to unencrypted http, which more and more sites these days simply do not support anymore. Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I update certificates in FreeDOS?
On 8/5/2023 12:34 PM, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: Then what do I do if I want to make a cURL request or WGet to a secure HTTPS page? Do I just use HTTP? But then it will forcefully redirect to HTTPS connection... What do I do? Use a properly Internet enabled operating system. Yes, I am aware that this is not the answer you probably like to hear. But you need to understand that anything Internet related is kind of shoehorned/piggybacked on top of DOS, an operating system that was already officially declared dead by the time the Internet start to proliferate. As everything https these days will require TLS 1.2 or newer to communicate, the only other thing you could do is to check with the authors about their tools supporting this level encryption... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do I update certificates in FreeDOS?
On 8/5/2023 5:35 AM, zerofive--- via Freedos-user wrote: Hello everyone! I am new to FreeDOS. When I try to use cURL or WGet, they sometimes error and refuse to use secure HTTPS connection. I figured it was from outdated certificates. Is there any way I can update them, manually or automatically? Thanks! FreeDOS knows jacksh@t about any certificate. And rather than a certificate issue, it is much rather an issue about the encryption protocols and associated key length in general that prevent you from using https connections in recent years. This is totally an issue of the applications you are using, making sure that they would be able to at least support TLS 1.2, or newer... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] A Couple of USB Device Issues
On 7/31/2023 2:06 PM, DAMON GRAY via Freedos-user wrote: Greetings all. I'm new to this list, so I hope to not post anything inappropriate or out of order. I have an old Dell Optiplex 745 I'm trying to "FreeDos" and am having a couple of issues. I have yet to get the USB Laser mouse to work properly. It's an iHome FastTrack Laser Mouse - a cheap sucker, but it is comfortable in my hand. Don't know that mouse, but it seems that this is rather a BIOS/USB port issue of your computer or with that particular mouse. I have one of those (Small form factor, the older one with the rounded edges and silver side cover) and on that one, I used FreeDOS with both corded and wireless Logitech/Dell El cheapo mice just fine The other issue is PCI sound cards. I have an Aureal Vortex2 and also a Soundblaster Audigy 4. I have fought with all three of these devices for almost two weeks and simply cannot get them to work properly. PCI is likely a no-go, as those cards used memory addresses above 1MB and/or higher I/O ports and/or IRQ and likely there will no no DOS driver for those, so a Windows/Linux card only, at least the Creative Labs doesn't list even DOS any more, the "lowest"/oldest you can select in Windows 98. Anything I could find about the Aureal card also states strictly Windows only... Ralf PS: I found just what looks like a 3rd party web site that list some apparently DOS drivers at www.philscomputerlab.com/aureal-vortex-2.html, you might wanna try that... ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
On 7/24/2023 6:06 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Hi folks, Too many layers in the process for me to try the install. That and the thinkpad, which is a thinkpad 600x is not in condition for the work it seems. I do wonder though if the freedos networking options would have functioned with the on-board Ethernet structure? Does your 600x include an Ethernet port "on-board", AFAIK, they didn't and you needed (as it was pre-USB days) an PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and that's where the soft brown matter hits the fast rotating appliance... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Accessing usb stick from freedos.
On 7/23/2023 1:50 PM, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote: The alleged 4 GB file size doesn't work on some OSes (FreeDOS, Windows NT?), only on old Win9x. So you're only guaranteed 2 GB individual file sizes, universally. Wrong. You can use files of up to 4GB size on any Windows version that supports FAT32. So does any reasonable version of Linux. Yes, some OS might limit you to 2GB, as they are using a signed 32bit integer, but that is far from being "universally". You'd need DJGPP 2.04 or 2.05 just to (maybe) handle it. Even then, last I checked, they hardcoded a check for "version 7 DOS" before enabling FAT32 support (e.g. du or df). Don't care about any Unix tool and how they handle this, to be honest... Theoretically, FAT32 could handle up to 2TB in partition size, while newer Windows (and some other OS) limit it to 32GB. I believe the Windows limitation was in "creating" FAT32 partitions larger than 32 GB because MS found that it was otherwise too slow under real-mode MS-DOS 7. Vista (and newer Windows) won't even boot from FAT anymore (too slow, security issues). Newer version of Windows seem to have problems with accessing drives/partitions over 32GB as well. I tried to use a 64GB USB stick formatted in FAT32 to transfer stuff between my PCs and my Macbook (granted, stuck on High Sierra, but in that regard, I don't think that things have changed in newer version of macOS) and it was a no-go on both ends. Ended up reformatting that stick with exFAT, which both sides can access just fine to work around that particular issue... And another example is this fine 4GB USB stick, which I used to move a 2.8GB Linux Mint ISO around. Yes, you have to take my word for it that this drive is FAT32... Volume in drive F has no label. Volume Serial Number is 9490-B112 Directory of F:\ 06/27/2023 10:43 AM WiFi 07/05/2023 11:26 AM 484 GetFolderPath.vbs 02/16/2016 09:05 AM 378 o...@atimesheets.vnc 07/20/2023 09:53 AM 3,050,733,568 linuxmint-21.2-mate-64bit.iso 3 File(s) 3,050,734,430 bytes 1 Dir(s) 946,855,936 bytes free FYI, Windows 11 is 64-bit host only nowadays and supposedly takes up 25 GB of space. Totally irrelevant for anything discussed here... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Accessing usb stick from freedos.
On 7/21/2023 2:01 PM, John Vella via Freedos-user wrote: Hi, I installed freedos on my IBM Thinkpad T43 and I installed a usb driver, which works. Sort of. I can access a 2gb usb stick, which is formatted to FAT32, and that's great, but I want to use a different stick. This is where the problems begin. It's a 128gb stick. If I find a way to create a FAT32 partition to use the whole space do we know if freedos would be able to handle that size? Or is there another file system I could use? No, you definitely can NOT use a different file system. FAT[12,16,32] is the only file system that FreeDOS understands. I had never had the need to use such large partitions with (any) DOS, and don't use it for anything else, as it is limited to 4GB file size too. Theoretically, FAT32 could handle up to 2TB in partition size, while newer Windows (and some other OS) limit it to 32GB. Not sure if a peek in the sources would reveal what a limitation under FreeDOS for FAT32 partitions would be... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed On A Logical Slice? The Answer Remains Unknown
On 7/21/2023 1:51 PM, Jay F. Shachter via Freedos-user wrote: Esteemed Colleagues: A little bit less formal might be more appropriate... slice, Microsoft Windows was still able to boot, and then I recreated the third primary slice, and I installed FreeDOS onto it. I had to change its 8-bit code from 7 to 12; when I left it at 7, FreeDOS refused to install itself there. When I changed it to 12, FreeDOS called it D: and it was then willing to install itself there. Well, you need to know what you are doing at this point. A partion ID of 7 (07h) simple can't work, as that would indicate a NTFS partition, that is a file system that DOS (any DOS) just doesn't know anything about... An ID of 12 (0Ch) indicates a FAT32 partition with LBA addressing, and this is something that FreeDOS indeed is able to understand I tried to do the same thing with a logical slice of disk but FreeDOS failed to see it. If it is possible to install FreeDOS onto a logical slice of disk, inside of the extended slice, the technique for doing so is unknown, or, at least, unknown by me. DOS can not be installed on a logical partition, it has to be a primary partition. Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
