Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup
I think I have managed to get both MSDos and Freedos though currently I cannot boot into freedos Trying to find a version of Linux that I like, I will probably pick Manjaro XFCE, that seems to run the best on that laptop and have access to the stuff I need/want which is mostly Virtual Box, and Visual Studio Code It still boots into MS Dos and Linux can see all the partitions I plan to create a swap dir at the end of the free space and then install linux into what is remaining. I am hoping that it will see the other distros and install grub properly, to boot into any of the goodness. At the least I expect that it will do a dual boot with MSDos and Linux, and I think I can massage grub to do the rest for me once I learn how. Adam On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:54 PM Eric Auer wrote: > Hi Gabriele, > > > Hi Eric I have partition magic for dos this can create partition for > > freedos? > > I guess it can, given that it is a partition editor :-) > > I do not know whether the DOS version can create LBA > partitions or FAT32 partitions, so if this is an old > DOS software, it may be better to use modern tools > such as GPARTED for Linux or something similar for > Windows or maybe even a tool shipping with FreeDOS? > > In any case, it should not make much difference for > the multiboot question. For that, the trick will be > to sort partitions in a way that each OS calls their > own partition C: because the partitions of the other > OS either are in formats not supported by the OS, > for example FAT32 will be invisible to MS DOS 6.22, > or are after the own partition of the OS. And you > should make sure that installing one OS does not > format or otherwise damage the partition of another. > > Regards, Eric > > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup
I was looking at that. On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:55 PM Louis Santillan wrote: > Might I suggest you try Microwindows/Nano-X on DOS and Linux? > > http://www.microwindows.org/ > > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:41 AM usul wrote: > >> I probably am that guy. I couldn't post in groups on FB for a couple of >> days. and I am itching to do something. LOL. >> >> Thanks for the links... >> As soon as I find a linux distro that I like that works on the laptop I >> will start looking at them in more detail. >> >> I think it would be fun to write something that looks like Windows 3.11 >> maybe even be able to run apps written for it. DESQview/X could run both >> if I could get something going that >> >> I have always thought that if xserver and a wm/desktop could be ported >> from linux to freedos that were small enough, >> then perhaps others would port apps as well. beyond the standard >> minefield, wordpad etc clones the other "desktops" like seal, opengem. etc. >> with those they never seemed to catch on, and most of them barely >> function when I run them. >> >> xvesa, wxwidgets, nano-x / microxwindows etc >> I don't really know how all of the linux windowing system works yet. And >> really the last time I messed with linux, it was zipslack on jaz drives was >> the thing. >> I even have a copy of dragonlinux (the linux that installed on a dos >> partition not a different partition) >> >> I still have a bunch of books in the closet for programming windows 3.11 >> and dos. >> Never did much win 95 came out shortly (like a couple of years) after I >> got started. >> >> I'll find something simpler freedos related to cut my dos programmer >> teeth on. >> Probably... :) >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:24 AM Liam Proven wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:18, usul wrote: >>> > >>> > Why? cause I always get asked... >>> >>> Ah, you are the same person who asked on the Facebook FreeDOS group? >>> >>> > Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I >>> was working in VB 3 lol, >>> > run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I >>> can port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to >>> do any of that in a VM. >>> >>> DESQview/X _is_ a minimal X server. >>> >>> There were other X servers for DOS, e.g. >>> >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/freedos-user/thread/4f0b8ad3.7050...@gmail.com/ >>> >>> http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-linux/54d11736a319f7ae.htm >>> >>> >>> https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ms_dos_x_server_releases_from_hummingbird >>> >>> The DEC PATHWORKS client for DOS also included an X server. >>> >>> >>> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/decnet/pathworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf >>> >>> You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I >>> think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server. >>> >>> -- >>> Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven >>> Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com >>> Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven >>> IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 >>> Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup
I probably am that guy. I couldn't post in groups on FB for a couple of days. and I am itching to do something. LOL. Thanks for the links... As soon as I find a linux distro that I like that works on the laptop I will start looking at them in more detail. I think it would be fun to write something that looks like Windows 3.11 maybe even be able to run apps written for it. DESQview/X could run both if I could get something going that I have always thought that if xserver and a wm/desktop could be ported from linux to freedos that were small enough, then perhaps others would port apps as well. beyond the standard minefield, wordpad etc clones the other "desktops" like seal, opengem. etc. with those they never seemed to catch on, and most of them barely function when I run them. xvesa, wxwidgets, nano-x / microxwindows etc I don't really know how all of the linux windowing system works yet. And really the last time I messed with linux, it was zipslack on jaz drives was the thing. I even have a copy of dragonlinux (the linux that installed on a dos partition not a different partition) I still have a bunch of books in the closet for programming windows 3.11 and dos. Never did much win 95 came out shortly (like a couple of years) after I got started. I'll find something simpler freedos related to cut my dos programmer teeth on. Probably... :) Adam On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:24 AM Liam Proven wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:18, usul wrote: > > > > Why? cause I always get asked... > > Ah, you are the same person who asked on the Facebook FreeDOS group? > > > Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I was > working in VB 3 lol, > > run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I can > port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to do > any of that in a VM. > > DESQview/X _is_ a minimal X server. > > There were other X servers for DOS, e.g. > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/freedos-user/thread/4f0b8ad3.7050...@gmail.com/ > > http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-linux/54d11736a319f7ae.htm > > https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ms_dos_x_server_releases_from_hummingbird > > The DEC PATHWORKS client for DOS also included an X server. > > > http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/decnet/pathworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf > > You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I > think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server. > > -- > Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com > Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven > IoM: (+44) 7624 277612: UK: (+44) 7939-087884 > Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup
I am no longer an experienced DOS user. I am relearning. And only understood half of what you said. Guess I have gotten old and lazy. and even back in the day I just went right to windows, to work in VB 3. I think 95 came out a year after I really got my start. Plus I really want them to be separate. I wish I knew how to do grub better but that xFDisk seems like it would do the trick. I have GParted and could use that to do all the Partitioning and hiding but I don't see that it has a way to install and setup grub, Unless someone says there are issues with xFDisk I'll try that. Worst thing that could happen is that I have to start over again. Adam On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:07 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi! > > You could try metakern: FreeDOS SYS has command line options to write > the boot sector to a file instead of to the boot sector. You can use > either DEBUG or Linux or simple or fancy DOS tools of your choice to > harvest the boot sectors of MS DOS and XP. If FreeDOS finds the file > fdconfig.sys, it will use that and ignore config.sys, so you can tell > FreeDOS to use a different command.com than MS DOS in the SHELL line, > which you can also use to tell our freecom shell to use a different > file instead of autoexec.bat :-) > > In short, you can use metakern as a boot menu to install FreeDOS and > MS DOS on the SAME C: drive, both visible to each other. Of course > it will take a bit of copying files around and making backups before > one installer overwrites files of the other DOS, but as experienced > DOS user, you can do it :-) > > You can also add XP to the equation if you manage to keep config > files separate, but it is probably easier to install XP to a NTFS > partition which both DOS versions will simply ignore. You can use > for example your Linux boot manager to boot either Linux or XP or > the DOS partition and then use metakern to boot either FreeDOS or > MS DOS. > > Or even easier: Copy the harvested boot sectors of both MS DOS and > FreeDOS to your Linux boot manager directory and manually add boot > menu items for the two DOS versions directly to your Linux boot menu > without using metakern. > > Regards, Eric > > > > > I and trying to get a multiboot setup > > > > 1. MSDOS 6.22 + Win 3.11 > > 2. FreeDos 1.3 > > 3. I was going to do XP but annoying so no... > > 4. And a Older laptop friendly Linux that runs on XFCE... > > > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup
Was there a reason this doesn't seem to be included on the usb installer (if it is I can't find it) I and trying to get a multiboot setup 1. MSDOS 6.22 + Win 3.11 2. FreeDos 1.3 3. I was going to do XP but annoying so no. (it dumped on drive "E", getting networking and drivers was a damn pain so bleh I won't be using it much anyway. 4. And a Older laptop friendly Linux that runs on XFCE and https://b00merang.weebly.com/windows-311.html This is going on a Dell Latitude D520 And when I go to install FreeDos on a partition from the USB Installer iso. It really, really wants to overwrite the MSDOS So I was thinking that I could.. Install MSDOS Boot with FreeDos, run xFdisk , mark the msdos drive as hidden, and install a bootloader like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvI8Q0uaihI=7s_channel=i80386sx But if it wasn't added I am wondering if it is bad, or just not maintained. I might be able to do this with the live gparted CD, but I have never installed grub manually before. So maybe I do the MSDOS install Create and format a partition for FreeDos Install Linux and fix the grub to then do freedos Why? cause I always get asked... Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I was working in VB 3 lol, run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I can port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to do any of that in a VM. Adam ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings
Thanks! On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 5:02 PM Daniel Essin via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > https://archive.org/details/msdos_manual_622 > > https://archive.org/details/microsoft-programmers-reference-manual-msdos-2.0 > https://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_complete > https://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_complete > <https://archive.org/details/msdos_5_User_Guide_complete> > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, at 2:22 PM, usul wrote: > > This is awesome, thank you. > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:57 AM usul wrote: > > > > So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and > my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with > a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram. > > I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished > college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net. I can read C / C++ but never > really did anything with it. > > FreeBASIC might be for you, then. It does have a DJGPP build. > > * https://freebasic.net/ > * https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/DocToc > > > So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again > > > > So I plan to multiboot on the laptop > > Linux > > Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11 > > and FreeDos > > Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any > Recommendations? > > You already mentioned ZipSlack (Slackware 11.0), and that was 2006-ish > using UMSDOS running atop FAT. > > * https://mirrors.slackware.com/mirrorlist/ > * https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/ > > > I found on those old cds copies of > > desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to) > > and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition. > > Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff. > > The Desqview/X SDK was DJGPP v1 (though I never used it), it's still on > mirrors. > > * https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/getting.html > * http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/deleted/v1tk/00_index.txt > > > Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my > autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos > and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that. > > I personally wouldn't bother with EMM386 (JEMM) just yet. Try sticking > to XMS only (HIMEMX), for now. > > > The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. . Where can I get all the > info to relearn all of that? Is there a website / documentation or an old > dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos. It sees all of > the memory on the laptop 4gigs just > > * https://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm > > > I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but > eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp. > > * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/readme.1st > * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/csdpmi7b.zip > > There's also OpenWatcom: > > * > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/ > > A lot of us also like HX / HDPMI32: > > * https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/HX/releases/tag/v2.20 > > > I'm not really good with mailing lists, too much overload. LOL Do we > have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc. > If not, I'll re-adapt. > > * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board.php > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings
This is awesome, thank you. On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:18 PM Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:57 AM usul wrote: > > > > So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and > my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with > a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram. > > I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished > college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net. I can read C / C++ but never > really did anything with it. > > FreeBASIC might be for you, then. It does have a DJGPP build. > > * https://freebasic.net/ > * https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/DocToc > > > So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again > > > > So I plan to multiboot on the laptop > > Linux > > Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11 > > and FreeDos > > Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any > Recommendations? > > You already mentioned ZipSlack (Slackware 11.0), and that was 2006-ish > using UMSDOS running atop FAT. > > * https://mirrors.slackware.com/mirrorlist/ > * https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware-11.0/zipslack/ > > > I found on those old cds copies of > > desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to) > > and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition. > > Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff. > > The Desqview/X SDK was DJGPP v1 (though I never used it), it's still on > mirrors. > > * https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/getting.html > * http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/deleted/v1tk/00_index.txt > > > Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my > autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos > and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that. > > I personally wouldn't bother with EMM386 (JEMM) just yet. Try sticking > to XMS only (HIMEMX), for now. > > > The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. . Where can I get all the > info to relearn all of that? Is there a website / documentation or an old > dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos. It sees all of > the memory on the laptop 4gigs just > > * https://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm > > > I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but > eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp. > > * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/readme.1st > * https://delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/csdpmi7b.zip > > There's also OpenWatcom: > > * > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.9/ > > A lot of us also like HX / HDPMI32: > > * https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/HX/releases/tag/v2.20 > > > I'm not really good with mailing lists, too much overload. LOL Do we > have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc. > If not, I'll re-adapt. > > * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board.php > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Greetings
Apparently I purged XP disks long ago. :( Laptop has Windows 10 is on it. And it is awful LOL. Even though most of the minimalist linux live I have tested also dogged a bit. I might install suse with xcfe on it. That seemed to run the best. Though I have never done any linux development. and the last time I really used it, ZipSlack and Mandrake were still a thing. :) But I really wanted to putz the win 3.11 and DESQview/X 2.1 compatibility. This guy mentioned... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfpizh02C2U_channel=MartinISDN So I would really like to try them all native. And is coding on a VM or DosBox etc really coding it native? I dunno. :) Half the fun I guess is re-learning all this stuff. I also saw a video where someone loaded 3.11 on Freedos. :) I dunno. Been programming for 30 years, hate my job and have 13 years to go. Have to find something to respark my interest in programming in spite of where I work. LOL I bought a supposed legal copy of XP from ebay. Might do the same with MS DOs 6.22 and Windows 3.1 but that would mean I have to get a usb floppy drive as I no longer have one. :P I did find a copy of "Undocumented Dos: A Programmer's Guide" https://biblio.co.nz/9780201632873 and a bunch of my old C\C++ books. So as soon as I get the items loaded this higher memory and 32 dos extender stuff remembered and djgpp or w/e up and running the better. Adam On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 12:39 PM John Vella wrote: > I would be tempted to install windows xp, which I believe this laptop > shipped with, then install virtual pc, (the version before Microsoft bought > it) and run the various dos/Windows 3.1 machines in a virtual environment. > > Or install linux and find a virtual pc solution for that. > > Dos and win 3.1 don't need a lot of resources and should run fine > virtually. > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2023, 17:57 usul, wrote: > >> So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and >> my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with >> a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram. >> I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I >> finished college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net. I can read C / C++ but >> never really did anything with it. >> So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again >> >> So I plan to multiboot on the laptop >> Linux >> Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11 >> and FreeDos >> Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any >> Recommendations? >> >> I found on those old cds copies of >> desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to) >> and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition. >> Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff. >> >> Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my >> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos >> and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that. >> This is my fconfig.sys that I found in one of the FREEDOS folders..,. >> >> ** >> SET DOSDIR=C:\FREEDOS >> !BUFFERS=20 >> !FILES=40 >> !MENUCOLOR=7,0 >> >> MENUDEFAULT=4,5 >> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free >> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX (more compatible) >> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386 (Expanded Memory) >> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode) >> MENU 5 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode) >> >> 123?DOS=HIGH >> 123?DOS=UMB >> 123?DOSDATA=UMB >> >> 1?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG >> 2?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG >> 34?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE >> 3?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG >> >> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024 >> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT >> 345?SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024 >> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT >> >> >> ** >> >> The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. . Where can I get all the >> info to relearn all of that? Is there a website / documentation or an old >> dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos. It sees all of >> the memory on the laptop 4gigs just >> >> I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but >> eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp. >> So I think I need to get this all working. Mouse , CDROM all worked out of
[Freedos-user] Greetings
So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram. I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I finished college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net. I can read C / C++ but never really did anything with it. So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again So I plan to multiboot on the laptop Linux Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11 and FreeDos Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any Recommendations? I found on those old cds copies of desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to) and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition. Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff. Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that. This is my fconfig.sys that I found in one of the FREEDOS folders..,. ** SET DOSDIR=C:\FREEDOS !BUFFERS=20 !FILES=40 !MENUCOLOR=7,0 MENUDEFAULT=4,5 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX (more compatible) MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386 (Expanded Memory) MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode) MENU 5 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode) 123?DOS=HIGH 123?DOS=UMB 123?DOSDATA=UMB 1?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG 2?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG 34?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE 3?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT 345?SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT ** The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. . Where can I get all the info to relearn all of that? Is there a website / documentation or an old dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos. It sees all of the memory on the laptop 4gigs just I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp. So I think I need to get this all working. Mouse , CDROM all worked out of the box that was amazing. I'm not really good with mailing lists, too much overload. LOL Do we have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc. If not, I'll re-adapt. Any direction / sites / books :) Thanks a bunch and this is awesome btw. Adam ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] GUI's for dos II
Create a zip file and rename it, that should allow you to put them all in a single file. i.e.hobo.zip.remove or hobo.change :) On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:49 PM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: Mateusz, I put it on my little freebie site: www.dosoid.bravehost.com. Unfortunately, the free version does not allow upload of any folders, let alone zips; for this reason, the one and only folder required, hdr, must be created by the user. The good news is that it contains two files, one an empty textfile and the other a simple little bat; so simple, in fact, the instruction for it is contained in a reminder on the single webpage!!. Other than that, the documentation, as well as the source code is in the file: 'x.txt', and although an executable is supplied, you can recompile it out-of-the-box using DJGPP; I strongly suggest using 'gcc' rather than 'g++'. I will try to nest multiple screens, but want to keep the level of such to a minimum(closer to dos). This is a hobby for me, and so it took two months instead of two weeks!. Finally, I am thinking of a linux version, which for the most part is doable, except for the interupts(!), which seem to be required(as in dos) for the mouse event handler. Linux is so seemingly mysterious to me, that I don't even know if such is built into the linux kernel. The search for how-to-do's on linux interrupts is either vague or expert-textpert over the head. Whatever. Richard Klein wb2...@gmail.com. By the way, yahoo mail seems to accept attachments with exe's no sweat; but if you send it to a gmail account, it gets rejected at that end; hot stuff, when you remember that google just got hacked big time in China!. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedosuser] FreeDOS localisation project
Does freedos/fat/dos store the files date and time information properly. Perhaps we could go by newer file instead of messages. The newer version of something may have less after some cleanup. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste-family.net wrote: On Wednesday 08 April 2009 15:17 (CEST), Roberto Mariottini wrote: In particular you can find the translations of DISKCOPY, MOVE, SORT and TREE. Cool, I grabed them just now :) Can you indicate the version at the beginning of the EN file? It's easier for me to know what is changed between revisions, so what needs to be updated. It doesn't depend on me, but on the file's translator... Personally, I don't know which translation is made for which version, as the CAT/Kitten standard do not require any versionning information. I am simply comparing how much messages there are in file A and file B (assuming that the one which has more is the most up to date). About Freecom: I suppose that CVS version 1.34 2004/12/01 21:20:46 is the same as SVN Revision 1067** No idea. How comes that the ES translation is more up-to date that the EN one? As said previously - I am only comparing number of messages in the file (these numbers are also written in the source page of my website...). spanish.lng has 254 translated strings, while english.lng has only 182... I don't know if they are still useful, let me know. I don't know either. I is a question which you should send to the freedos-installer guy (whoever it is, dunno if there are somebody working on the 1.1 installer at all...) see you! Mateusz Viste Mateusz Viste wrote: Hi all! It has been a long time that the poor translation management was bothering me. There is no easy way to know what needs to be translated, and what is already translated but not shipped with the package for whatever reason. I worked a moment today on a new project: The FreeDOS localisation project: http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdlang/ I think that such centralized translation point could greatly improve FreeDOS translations, as people would know exactly what has to be translated, where to check wheter any translations for a given program has been made, and where to send any self-made translations. Don't hesitate to send me any translations you have, which aren't listed on my website! Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installing programs on FreeDOS v1.1
Utilities too late the party? Because I think the utilities and freedos core should be separated. Here is one reason why. Say I am working on a program that I want to be dos compatible. any Dos and not just free dos, or I need to test the compatibility. C:\FDOS C:\MSDOS etc and this could be done with a simple batch menu. But I may want to use things that are in the freedos bin direcory but since they are mixed in with the standard freedos applications I have to manual type in the whole path to use them because the aren't separated. as for package determination, yes its an extra step but I think its the right one to make. is this core or not not too hard of a question. :) if everything executable in mixed together it becomes difficult to manage. I know it more work but sometimes more work is required. I have only submitted one package so far, but I plan to do a whole lot more. just my .02 cents worth. usul -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about changing our packaging style for v1.1?
Hi If putting them into a single zip forces that the sources are installed everytime. I would disagree. Its an extra step for the end user to manually delete them. what if this is being used in an embedded environment where space is premium. Not all users of dos are technical like us, the more steps that you ad the more cumbersome it becomes. and to be honest, even I would not want the sources for 80%, the other 20% would be temporary. if there was a way to automate the removal of the directory or not create them that would work. usul -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
Question on these as I don't really understand. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=5745902U.S. Patent 5,745,902 Method and system for accessing a file using file names having different file name formats - http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=5579517U.S. Patent 5,579,517 Common name space for long and short filenames - http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=5758352U.S. Patent 5,758,352 Common name space for long and short filenames - http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=6286013U.S. Patent 6,286,013 Method and system for providing a common name space for long and short file names in an operating system There is no patent on the actual technique and data structures used to handle/maintain FAT12/16/32 FAT tables (and the DOS standard 8.3 type file names) Also, IBM holds a patent for non-DOS extensions in the use of FAT file systems http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=5367671U.S. Patent 5,367,671 System for accessing extended object attribute (EA) data through file name or EA handle linkages in path tables. Are these patents on a technique or on the concept? with a technique we can just do different can't we? just read the patent and come up with another way to do it. Or am I completely uninformed? -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
There is always another way to do it. receiving a long file name in a long file name format; storing the received long file name in a first file entry of the tree structure along with a file storage indicator indicating the location of the file in the memory; automatically generating a short file name in a short file name format; and storing the generated short file name in a second file entry of the tree structure along with the file storage indicator indicating the location of the file in the memory, the second file entry being different from the first file entry; and now I dont understand legalees but I speak geek this is talking about storing values in tree, I am assuming thats is in the FAT itself So why cant we just create a database/table - file that allows lookup in a second area, either a file on the hard drive or a separate partition. then based on the file/directory ID and store that in the database table completely separate from the FAT if we don't touch fat it should be fine. If we are using a different method and system we are safe. in that database/table we could also add fields for whatever we want. could even extend it to give linux like attributes. to help with porting etc then in the kernal FAT code go lookup values in that table intercept calls and redirect them to and from our storage. instead of FAT. if we need to sync them make that a separate TSR and keep it out of the Kernel. same result different method. I could be way off base here not knowing DOS programming nor legaleese. But still different method and system is still different. I would expect this type of thinking to defeat the patent. So educate me why am I wrong. :) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
Whenever theoretically someone would claim you are violating our patents, stop it for we sue you it questionable if the sabre rattle was already enough for the extortion and if ever a court would have the chance to judge. I would stand my ground if I knew that I took the time to avoid the patent do the work correctly. Even if there were no help for legal funds from the Open Source Community If I can read a manual, I could read an appeal and file it. I see to many people tuck tail and run at the saber rattling. In the US a LLC. would protect from any personal liability. Not that they come after the programmers anyway. Its the end users they go after. I am thinking though since the GPL is a way to turn the patent system vs itself to protect open source. There has to be a way to also protect the liability of developers and end users as well. Like the licence to use the software turns the liability of the debt to something not tied to anyone and which owns nothing. IDK something. I would feel guilty if I developed something that hurt a company later on. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
By the way I must repeat the question who would be theoretically sued?. I would think the end users. For Example: Companies that distribute new PCs with FreeDos installed. someone that sold FreeDos on a bootable USB Someone that sold and built CD for open source. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
Does that mean everyone has to take out DOSLFN? From linux and freedos? Maybe this is also a dumb question but is it possible to run FreeDos on a different File System? liek on of the linux ones and still be able to run/use most dos programs? -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
I just missed it thats all, :) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?
But this wouldn't be a good solution as there are still much more other patents we might have not considered yet. But I believe there is enough usage of the Linux file systems to make this a less than likely target. And FAT = Microsoft so it was easy for them to use that as a target. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking
Uli, I bought ORiNOCO Classic Gold PC Card. http://www.orinocowireless.com/products/wifi/client/goldpccard/index.html I know wireless is a risk but I checked in the documentation it had dos and linux drivers :) and I downloaded the ISO with all of that on it. the iso has several directories \driver \ODI \packet Just not sure how to set it up. I want to, ftp, telnet, browse the web with arachne, SVN when I port the commandline client. etc. Copy files from my windows network at home would be nice, but that would take secondary to the ftp and telnet. Are there any telnet and programs for freedos? I am assuming that wget is the ftp. Oh and I would probably want to be able to read and post to newsgroups and this mailing list. But I can do that from another pc that i usually have next to me. but it would be nice to have a complete evironment. lots of stuff in there and I am unsure of what is what. I have been spoiled by windows and linux LOL. I see alot of things on the web links for PPP etc. Things that sound familiar, but I no longer remember what they are. When I get home tonight after work I will try and comprehend all the help I got here and get it working. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] MSCLIENT
Is MSCLIENT the only choice? Has anyone tried to create something open sourced for FreeDos? Like FDCLIENT? :) usul -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking
I am testing a few Linux OSes to see what works best. Tried Tiny, DLS-N, Puppy so far. :) Just a matter of seeing which one likes the linux driver the best. And looks better, I don't really like the look and feel of DSL. Trying a flux based puppy tonight :) But yeah I was thinking that I would cheat for some of the stuff for developing on FreeDos at first but later I would try and do everything I could inside. Adam -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking
mr, Because you are not doing everything on pure DOS this makes your development more worse? That's s strange mind. :) I'm strange I admit that but thats not whyI think it would be cheating, you are coming from the wrong angle. If I am immersed in the environment, then its better because the things that don't work or become cumbersome get identified and fix, worked around improved. :) Cheating was a bad choice of words and prob an even worse attempt at humor. usul -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
if someone were to write something that encompassed all the operation success, patent dead networking where would one start? What is the linux equivelent samba? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Michael Reichenbach michael_reichenb...@freenet.de wrote: Christian Groessler schrieb: Hi, If you want you can setup a FTP server on DOS running as TSR in background. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Servers ?? This is a completely different topic. No, since you asked for connecting to file server share in a modern way. Perhaps I have misunderstood. Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. Maybe an idea for a project? :-) Has been discussed here and it always ends with use msclient which is a bit like an operation success, patent dead solution. Unfortunately no one is up for such a project. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Networking
Hello, I have the internet card and the drivers. So now what. I looked up all I could and there are alot of sites some the link works some they don't. I'm not really sure what needs to be done. thanks, Adam -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Installation Problems
Hello I am having problems installing the current version. I get everything completed and it seems to be ok, fdisked and set 2g to the os as primary partition, active and after booting from the CD Rom I can go to the c: and see all the files including the system ones. but when I try and boot from the harddrive after I go through all the system checks I get a blank screen. no cursor, no beeps etc nothing. If I then boot from the cd I can see everything on the harddrive. I tried out of fustration to install Puppy Linux. and that worked. Could it be working because Puppy did something else to the mbr or because of grub the bootloader? any thoughts here? it is a Fujitsu LifeBook 770Tx With an additional memory card, maxed out memory -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install Problems
I installed freedos correctlly or so I thought. When I boot from the hard drive and not the CD I get an F 99 99 99 (lots of nines) I can boot from the cd and see everything on the hard drive and run programs just fine. What did I do incorrectly? ~theMouse -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] freedos qemu
hello, has anyone done this and got filesharing and networking to work? usul - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos qemu
Checkout QEMU Manager GUI + QEMU + Accelerator. http://www.davereyn.co.uk/about.htm It installs and runs perfectly. But to be honest I have forgotten alot about dos. So I am having problems setting it up. The reason I wanted to use FreeDos as I wanted to program on it, for it. etc. I am having problems installing FreeDos to USB so I thought this would work almost just as well. thanks, usul - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos qemu
Ah I have not tried it on linux yet. usul On 9/26/07, Mateusz Viste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 September 2007 19:26, usul wrote: Checkout QEMU Manager GUI + QEMU + Accelerator. Well, this is a program for Win32... In Win32 it's not a problem to install QEMU and Qemu accelerator :-P I use Linux - that's why I had problems with it. Mateusz Viste - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos qemu
http://gtk-qemu.sourceforge.net/ I don't know if there is an accelerator for linux. thanks, usul On 9/26/07, Mateusz Viste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 September 2007 19:26, usul wrote: Checkout QEMU Manager GUI + QEMU + Accelerator. Well, this is a program for Win32... In Win32 it's not a problem to install QEMU and Qemu accelerator :-P I use Linux - that's why I had problems with it. Mateusz Viste - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Installing to USB
Hello I am trying to install to a usb drive from the livecd. I am booting from the CD. I am installing to the USB (shows up as c:) It starts fine and shuts down as its copying the files for the fdos directory. is there a problem with the usb drivers and copying? I figure I can just copy all the files in windows. but (its been a while since I have done dos) what are the setup files to run tasks on a manual install? thanks, Adam - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
RE: [Freedos-user] Release 2 is strange
:( Sometimes people make few mistakes. Give em a break. Sometimes when you do things they work on your PC, but not everywhere else. Volunteers usually lack the resources to test every possible Variation and possibility. Hell Microsoft with its billions rarely Gets it right. Open source is a community. Users are expected to use/test and politely Suggestion ideas and report bugs. The other releases where working just fine. Something went with wrong with this one. It will get fixed when the volunteers have the time to donate. Please be nice. Thanks! I had the same problems. I suggest you download the http://odin.fdos.org/ Use that and the floppy boot images to create your own base and then download the rest that you want. Don't forget to add your cdrom drivers to the list. :) I have to do the same. Usul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marten Feldtmann Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 3:38 AM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Release 2 is strange All that software is strange. The CD-ROm installation did not do the work and now I tried to install via the discs and all these installations break with missing files here and missing files there. Especially textinst.exe is missing ... This is the worst software installation I have ever seen so far and no positive sign at all. Marten --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
RE: [Freedos-user] setting wireles with freedos?
I don't think there are any dos drivers Or software that will work. Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Lee Mullins Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:30 PM To: FreeDOS User Subject: [Freedos-user] setting wireles with freedos? Allo! How to setting networking (wireles) in freedos! please give me answer -- TomLeeM / BigWarpGuy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Director of Communications - * - Linkmaster * * * * * * * * * OS/2 Warp - eComStation Org * * OS/2 World * * * * * * * * * http://www.os2ecs.org * * http://www.os2world.com * * * * Supporting Past OS/2 Users and Future eCS Users * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://home.comcast.net/~tomleem * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
RE: [Freedos-user] test boot floppy
If you go to the following ling there is a zip file http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1disk/ bootfd/ 1) unzip the file some place like c:\bootfd 2) insert diskette in drive A: 3) run install.bat script 4) Copy you program and set it up as you would normally. Let me know if you need any more assistance. Sincerely, Usul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rinaldo Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:21 AM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] test boot floppy Hi Friends I am new to Freedos, first I wish to make a bootfloppy, since I am blind I want to see if I will be able to use my screenreader program, it does work from msdos 2 - dos7.. The freedos file I have is about 20meg in size and there is a lot of talk of 'gui' that I do not need, what should I use to make a bootfloppy just for a test please. The computer I use for dos7 is a pentium 120mhz only a hard drive and not cdrom drive, the files I have has been taken from a cdrom, using a 'backpack' external drive connected to the paralel port. The dates are mostly 2004 and one 2005. I did look for a 'makefloppy' file but did not see one. Rinaldo. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
RE: [Freedos-user] Problems with floppy disk installation
I had a lot of the same kind of messages with The cd install which is built on the disks imagine. Keep trying menu options combinations, eventually I got through them And it installed. I can't remember which menu it was exactly But I think it was the 3rd once (including my cd install) So it Might only be your second. NOTE: no matter what I did to install VIM it didn't work And it hung up the install process. Skip it copy the file later. I know this probably isn't much help. LOL. Good luck! Usul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Drum Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:45 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Problems with floppy disk installation I just downloaded the beta 9 floppy diskette images the other day. I am installing onto a Toshiba Libretto 110CT which only has a floppy drive attachment. The boot disk works just fine and it even went so far as to properly format the hard drive and create a DOS partition. It also seems to have done a proper installation of a barebones bootable DOS on the hard drive. So far, so good. However, running the installer on the boot disk (which will presumably prompt for the other installer disks so I can get more robust functionality) produces a full page of text that goes by far too quickly to read. The following screen says that some files are missing and aborts the installation. Presumably the installer is referring to itself, not my hard drive. Anyone have any ideas, or is the current floppy installer beta known to have this issue? Christopher Drum --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
