Re: [Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2018-01-07 Thread Bart Oldeman via Freedos-user
My talk was accepted so I'll be presenting in 4 weeks:
https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/dosemu_and_freedos_past_present_future/

Bart

On 1 December 2017 at 08:56, Bart Oldeman
 wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> (still lurking but not a lot of time... over the past years)
>
> I'll be at FOSDEM for work related purposes (HPC devroom). Since I'll
> be there anyway I submitted a proposal for Retrocomputing to talk
> about DOSEMU and FreeDOS.
> One exciting development that somehow was missed is that there is
> finally a GCC port with support for far pointers
> (https://github.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16/). I have been able to compile the
> FD kernel with it and run the result, though it needs various changes.
> I would have never guessed in 2000 that this would be possible in 2017!
>
> I'll be in touch with you Jim if my proposal gets accepted; I am not
> sure if for retrocomputing the deadline was extended or not (for the
> HPC devroom it is today).
>
> Bart

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Re: [Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2017-12-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Bart Oldeman via Freedos-user
 wrote:
>
> (still lurking but not a lot of time... over the past years)

Long time no see, indeed.

> I'll be at FOSDEM for work related purposes (HPC devroom). Since I'll
> be there anyway I submitted a proposal for Retrocomputing to talk
> about DOSEMU and FreeDOS.

DOSEMU is very useful, especially since the native BIOS is fading away
in lieu of UEFI.

> One exciting development that somehow was missed is that there is
> finally a GCC port with support for far pointers
> (https://github.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16/).

But this is somewhat confusing to me.

Of course it says it's based upon Jenner's work, but it seems to have
not been updated (mostly) for several years. But Jenner didn't release
his work (AFAIK) officially until last April (Windows or Linux
cross-tools downloads only). While he had far pointers on his todo
list, he hadn't gotten to it yet.

I accidentally stumbled upon someone mentioning Jenner's April release
on FASM's forum, but I was very hesitant to mention any of this to
anyone here. (I did eventually email Jim Hall, though.) I didn't want
anyone to get their hopes up since it was somewhat incomplete.

Jenner did make a GNU Cauldron video (dated "Sep 9, 2017"), which I
also emailed Jim about, but it just reiterates the same limitations
(and mentions a linker bug).

> I have been able to compile the FD kernel with it and run the result, though
> it needs various changes. I would have never guessed in 2000 that this
> would be possible in 2017!

With GCC? Or just in general? Honestly, we've had bigger surprises.
But it really shouldn't be this hard to rebuild things.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2017-12-01 Thread Bart Oldeman via Freedos-user
Hi guys,

(still lurking but not a lot of time... over the past years)

I'll be at FOSDEM for work related purposes (HPC devroom). Since I'll
be there anyway I submitted a proposal for Retrocomputing to talk
about DOSEMU and FreeDOS.
One exciting development that somehow was missed is that there is
finally a GCC port with support for far pointers
(https://github.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16/). I have been able to compile the
FD kernel with it and run the result, though it needs various changes.
I would have never guessed in 2000 that this would be possible in 2017!

I'll be in touch with you Jim if my proposal gets accepted; I am not
sure if for retrocomputing the deadline was extended or not (for the
HPC devroom it is today).

Bart

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Re: [Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2017-11-01 Thread Jim Hall
Jim Hall wrote:
>> Is anyone here planning to attend FOSDEM in February? Unfortunately,
>> I won't be able to make it.
>>
>> This year, they have added a special track about retro computing.
>> What a perfect venue for FreeDOS!
>>
>> https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2017-October/002623.html


Eric Auer wrote:
> For those who are lazy with links, here some excerpts:
>
> "FOSDEM is a free software event that offers open source communities a
> place to meet, share ideas and collaborate. It is renown for being
> highly developer-oriented and brings together 8000+ participants from
> all over the world. It is held in the city of Brussels (Belgium).
>
> FOSDEM 2018 will take place during the weekend of February 3rd-4th 2018.
> More details about the event can be found at http://www.fosdem.org.
[..]
>> If you plan to attend and would like to talk about FreeDOS, let me know and
>> I'll help with slides and material.
>
> Interesting :-) What do you have in mind?

I have given a few talks about the history of FreeDOS, and these have
been very well received. Based on the "retro computing" track at this
year's FOSDEM, I think if someone wants to do a similar talk about
FreeDOS at FOSDEM, it would also be well received.

If this is something that interests you, feel free to re-use or
re-purpose the slides I used at Kieler. You can find them at
http://www.freedos.org/jhall/kieler/

You can also find additional material, including history and
screenshots - in our FreeDOS Press Kit:
http://www.freedos.org/press-kit.zip

If anyone would like help putting together such a presentation, I'd be
happy to help you via email.


Jim

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Re: [Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2017-10-31 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Jim, Europeans,

> Is anyone here planning to attend FOSDEM in February? Unfortunately,
> I won't be able to make it.
> 
> This year, they have added a special track about retro computing.
> What a perfect venue for FreeDOS!
> 
> https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2017-October/002623.html

For those who are lazy with links, here some excerpts:

"FOSDEM is a free software event that offers open source communities a
place to meet, share ideas and collaborate. It is renown for being
highly developer-oriented and brings together 8000+ participants from
all over the world. It is held in the city of Brussels (Belgium).

FOSDEM 2018 will take place during the weekend of February 3rd-4th 2018.
More details about the event can be found at http://www.fosdem.org.

[...]

25 Nov 2017: submission deadline for talk proposals

15 Dec 2017: announcement of the final schedule

 4 Feb 2018: Retrocomputing dev room"

Also, talks will be streamed and recorded :-) Brussels is reasonably
easy to reach for various Europeas FreeDOS people, so at least being
part of the audience should be feasible ;-) Something for Mateusz?
I myself might be work-related busy, but I can not predict that yet.

> If you plan to attend and would like to talk about FreeDOS, let me know and
> I'll help with slides and material.

Interesting :-) What do you have in mind?

Regards, Eric


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[Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2017-10-31 Thread Jim Hall
Is anyone here planning to attend FOSDEM in February? Unfortunately, I
won't be able to make it.

This year, they have added a special track about retro computing. What a
perfect venue for FreeDOS!

https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2017-October/002623.html


If you plan to attend and would like to talk about FreeDOS, let me know and
I'll help with slides and material.
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