Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Michael B. Brutman wrote: On 2/12/2012 11:42 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I took a different approach I downloaded the latest iso, moved the Tandy harddrive to a pc, and installed Now I have the Tandy up on FreeDOS One itch to scratch is when I run dir I get Press any key to continue after every single line Next I have a Intel 8/18TP Lan Adapter and I have no idea how to go about setting up networking on dos I have spent 18 years working on UNIX Richard The Intel 8/16 adapter should work on most machines. Look for a packet driver for that particular card. A packet driver is a TSR that serves as the device driver for a specific network card. It presents a common high level interface that DOS networking code can then use. This writeup might be helpful: http://brutman.com/Dos_Networking/packet_drivers.html Intel might have their old packet drivers on the web site. Another place to look is the Crynwr packet driver collect. Just search for Crynwr and you'll find it. A packet driver only gives you a device driver capable of sending and receiving raw Ethernet frames. After that choose your software and configure accordingly. FreeDOS has some networking programs installed already. Without trying to show too much bias I would look at the mTCP programs - the home page is here: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP I am connected!!! I used the Intel EtherExpress/16 packet driver from crynwr.com Now, how do I go about getting apps to use dns and is there such a thing as a host table Richard -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
On 2/13/2012 6:06 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I am connected!!! I used the Intel EtherExpress/16 packet driver from crynwr.com Now, how do I go about getting apps to use dns and is there such a thing as a host table Richard What are you using? If it is mTCP there is a nameserver setting in the configuration file you can use so that DNS names get resolved. If you are trying to reach a machine where there is no DNS server (a local network machine maybe) then use the IP address. The documentation spells all of this out. The WATTCP apps also have a configuration setting for DNS but I'm not as familiar with those. Mike -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
Op 12-2-2012 0:53, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I just inherited a Tandy 1000 TX Can someone point me to docs I have a 720KB floppy and 210MB harddrive I'd recommend getting a ready-to-run bootdisk from [ http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ ]. [ http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/odin/odin060/ ] is also an option as it lists a 720KB floppy (which can be written to a 720KB floppy in a 720KB floppy drive or 1.44MB floppy drive using WinImage or RAWRITE or something similar) Realisticly though, if such old machines are networked, I'd better prepare some bootdisks that can connect to FTP/HTTP by using the MTCP programs ( http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ ). That way you could boot from the floppy, download the FreeDOS CD-ROM imagefile, and install from there. Connecting a FreeDOS CD-image as a virtual CD over the internet is possible as well, but that may require at least anything from a 386 to a Pentium Pro machine ( http://ipxe.org) so wouldn't be an option for you. Bernd -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
Hi, On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 12-2-2012 0:53, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I just inherited a Tandy 1000 TX Can someone point me to docs I have a 720KB floppy and 210MB harddrive I'd recommend getting a ready-to-run bootdisk from [ http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ ]. The only ones of those that will run on a 286 are disk#2 and bare_dos, but I'm afraid both are default setup as 1.44 MB images (though you could get the files separately, but you'd still need a way to put stuff onto 720k floppy, e.g. SYS.COM if you're not just using whatever DOS is presumably already there). [ http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/odin/odin060/ ] is also an option as it lists a 720KB floppy (which can be written to a 720KB floppy in a 720KB floppy drive or 1.44MB floppy drive using WinImage or RAWRITE or something similar) ODIN is very very old, but I guess it's better than nothing. I don't honestly know what tools will convert (?) to/from 720kb these days. Floppies aren't exactly popular anymore. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Op 12-2-2012 0:53, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I just inherited a Tandy 1000 TX Can someone point me to docs I have a 720KB floppy and 210MB harddrive I'd recommend getting a ready-to-run bootdisk from [ http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ ]. [ http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/odin/odin060/ ] is also an option as it lists a 720KB floppy (which can be written to a 720KB floppy in a 720KB floppy drive or 1.44MB floppy drive using WinImage or RAWRITE or something similar) Realisticly though, if such old machines are networked, I'd better prepare some bootdisks that can connect to FTP/HTTP by using the MTCP programs ( http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ ). That way you could boot from the floppy, download the FreeDOS CD-ROM imagefile, and install from there. Connecting a FreeDOS CD-image as a virtual CD over the internet is possible as well, but that may require at least anything from a 386 to a Pentium Pro machine ( http://ipxe.org) so wouldn't be an option for you. I got a boot floppy and ran fdisk on the harddrive followed by format c: /s /u When I try to boot from the hd I get FreeDOS and the floppy drive light comes on How do configure it to point to the hd Richard -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
Op 12-2-2012 16:07, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I got a boot floppy and ran fdisk on the harddrive followed by format c: /s /u When I try to boot from the hd I get FreeDOS and the floppy drive light comes on How do configure it to point to the hd I've seen this recently in Bochs when trying to start from a bootdisk, I suspect there's something odd with regard to the bootsector used/generated by FreeDOS. Could you run FDISK and check if drive C: is an ACTIVE primary FAT partition? If it is, then only the bootsector can be blamed. For now I'll have to recommend continuing to boot from floppy till there's a solution. To speed things slightly up a little bit you could generate a textfile A:\FDCONFIG.SYS which will load files mostly from harddisk instead of diskette. That leaves only kernel and FDCONFIG.SYS to be loaded from floppy. Alternatively there might be bootsectors for floppies allowing to either boot from harddisk (MBR or bootsector) or chain to harddisk kernel file. That way you'd avoid having to load kernel from floppy, which is relatively slow. A:\FDCONFIG.SYS contents: SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT ( depending on if your machine has at least 2MB memory, and if this XMS driver works: ) DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\FDXMS286.SYS -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
Hi, On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 12-2-2012 16:07, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I got a boot floppy and ran fdisk on the harddrive followed by format c: /s /u When I try to boot from the hd I get FreeDOS and the floppy drive light comes on How do configure it to point to the hd Did you do SYS A: C: afterwards? (If that doesn't work, it's probably a bug.) And yes, your FAT partition must be primary and active. Also, make sure you remove the floppy from the drive when you want to boot from HD or else the BIOS will choose that first (apparently). -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 12-2-2012 16:07, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I got a boot floppy and ran fdisk on the harddrive followed by format c: /s /u When I try to boot from the hd I get FreeDOS and the floppy drive light comes on How do configure it to point to the hd Did you do SYS A: C: afterwards? No I did and same results With floppy removed I get BIOS info then FreeDOS and floppy light comes on (If that doesn't work, it's probably a bug.) And yes, your FAT partition must be primary and active. Also, make sure you remove the floppy from the drive when you want to boot from HD or else the BIOS will choose that first (apparently). -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 12-2-2012 16:07, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I got a boot floppy and ran fdisk on the harddrive followed by format c: /s /u When I try to boot from the hd I get FreeDOS and the floppy drive light comes on How do configure it to point to the hd Did you do SYS A: C: afterwards? (If that doesn't work, it's probably a bug.) And yes, your FAT partition must be primary and active. Also, make sure you remove the floppy from the drive when you want to boot from HD or else the BIOS will choose that first (apparently). I took a different approach I downloaded the latest iso, moved the Tandy harddrive to a pc, and installed Now I have the Tandy up on FreeDOS One itch to scratch is when I run dir I get Press any key to continue after every single line Next I have a Intel 8/18TP Lan Adapter and I have no idea how to go about setting up networking on dos I have spent 18 years working on UNIX Richard -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
Op 12-2-2012 18:42, kqt4a...@gmail.com schreef: I took a different approach I downloaded the latest iso, moved the Tandy harddrive to a pc, and installed Glad you had that possibility, I was assuming incompatibility of the harddisk/controller if moving it to a more modern system. Guess I was wrong. Now I have the Tandy up on FreeDOS One itch to scratch is when I run dir I get Press any key to continue after every single line I assume you mean every full/filled screen? Change the DIRCMD variable in AUTOEXEC.BAT , it might include a /P setting, remove that by modifying this file (EDIT AUTOEXEC.BAT). Or do DIR /-P Next I have a Intel 8/18TP Lan Adapter and I have no idea how to go about setting up networking on dos I have spent 18 years working on UNIX No idea, sorry. Crynwr website and some others have DOS packet drivers for various cards. Anything NE2000 is the most likely to work. Then again, ancient network cards (for PC) without DOS packet drivers is also a rare thing. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286
On 2/12/2012 11:42 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I took a different approach I downloaded the latest iso, moved the Tandy harddrive to a pc, and installed Now I have the Tandy up on FreeDOS One itch to scratch is when I run dir I get Press any key to continue after every single line Next I have a Intel 8/18TP Lan Adapter and I have no idea how to go about setting up networking on dos I have spent 18 years working on UNIX Richard The Intel 8/16 adapter should work on most machines. Look for a packet driver for that particular card. A packet driver is a TSR that serves as the device driver for a specific network card. It presents a common high level interface that DOS networking code can then use. This writeup might be helpful: http://brutman.com/Dos_Networking/packet_drivers.html Intel might have their old packet drivers on the web site. Another place to look is the Crynwr packet driver collect. Just search for Crynwr and you'll find it. A packet driver only gives you a device driver capable of sending and receiving raw Ethernet frames. After that choose your software and configure accordingly. FreeDOS has some networking programs installed already. Without trying to show too much bias I would look at the mTCP programs - the home page is here: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP (Disclaimer: I wrote the code.) Mike -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] howto on a 286
I just inherited a Tandy 1000 TX Can someone point me to docs I have a 720KB floppy and 210MB harddrive Richard -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
