Re: [Freedos-user] Installation difficulties...
John Ames schrieb: Okay. I would really like to use FreeDOS, preferrably the full-install CD, and definitely with USB disk support. Problem is, the NIC in the computer I want to install it on (a 3Com 3C595-TX) does not appear to be recognized by either the default packet driver or the manufacturer's DOS driver, unless it requires some fiddling with the PCI arguments (which are, frankly, over my head.) And a large portion of the packages, including some absolutely critical ones like the USB mass storage driver, seem to rely on the installer's ability to use wget to download the latest version off the Internet. Is there a way around this problem, or am I SOL without a more commonly-supported network card? There are many USB drivers for DOS. You either boot USB or you have USB legacy support in BIOS or you boot from non-USB and load a DOS USB driver, the panasonic one works best for me. All infos here: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.USB For network drivers read here http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.PacketDriver also try netbootdisk. Post back if you have no success. Good luck! regards, -mr -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installation difficulties...
Eric Auer schrieb: Hi, Okay. I would really like to use FreeDOS, preferrably the full-install CD, and definitely with USB disk support. Problem is, the NIC in the computer I On modern PC, your BIOS already does USB disk support for you and DOS. You mean USB legacy support (for storage)? http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/USB_booting#BIOS_USB_booting_.22standards.22 I haven't seen USB legacy support in much recent BIOS's, but therefore more and more working USB booting implementations. Disadvantage of USB booting: does not work if you want to boot from internal harddisk and attach and additional USB, then you need a DOS USB driver. regards, -mr -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installation difficulties...
Hi, Okay. I would really like to use FreeDOS, preferrably the full-install CD, and definitely with USB disk support. Problem is, the NIC in the computer I On modern PC, your BIOS already does USB disk support for you and DOS. For the others, you can try the USB drivers made by Georg Potthast: www.georgpotthast.de/usb/ (see also Sioux server, NIC driver page ;-)) want to install it on (a 3Com 3C595-TX) does not appear to be recognized by either the default packet driver or the manufacturer's DOS driver, unless it requires some fiddling with the PCI arguments (which are, frankly, over my head.) And a large portion of the packages, including some absolutely You should give some more details about why the manufacturer driver fails. Any error messages? Did you try NwDSK yet? www.veder.com/nwdsk/ critical ones like the USB mass storage driver, seem to rely on the installer's ability to use wget to download the latest version off the Internet. Is there a way around this problem, or am I SOL without a more commonly-supported network card? On the FdDependencies page on the fd-doc wiki, you can see that mostly the following use internet (invoke wget) during install: FProt, ASPI, SCSI (not needed for BIOS drives), USBDOS, VIA (VIA audio) Also, wget, wattcp, fdstpop, bsflite, lnxsmal, lynx, lynxex, openxp, vnc, hxrt and arachne can be useful online. XHarbor and OWatcom are very big (XHarbor also requires OWatcom). I would recommend to NOT install any of the use internet during install packages initially, as internet connections often hang at this point. You can add and finetune internet drivers later. And of course you can download ZIPs with any other system where the internet does work and then unzip them on your DOS drive :-). Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
RE: [Freedos-user] Installation Difficulties
Thanks for the quick response. There's no CD drive in the box, and not one available, so I can't avail myself of your experimental updated version. OK, clean install of FreeDOS, harddrive just stops after the PCI hardware list. There are 4 weird phone-type ISA cards in the next slots; perhaps that's where things are going wrong. Hmmm. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Campbell Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:41 AM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Difficulties I've tried to sys c: /bootonly the drive, reformat the drive with and without the /s option, and now I'm running into an Unknown Previous DOS operating system. Error level code: 3 3 error that simply halts the FreeDOS install process. Don't use /bootonly; FreeDOS install sees a bootsector but no boot files and calls it an unknown previous DOS OS. I believe this is fixed in my experimental CD-ROMs. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Difficulties
Matthew Fisher schreef: Still stymied, but I don't actually think it's a hardware question. After the install completes, on reboot it's not actually finding anything to start up: everything is still in the C:\temp directory, and the post-install scripts aren't running. if I recall correctly, FreeDOS attempts to locate the directory where SETUP installed files to. So far, only drive C: supported. If that fails, it means installer didn't complete installing packages and then FreeDOS tries to install a core bootable system: kernel (c:\kernel.sys), shell (at c:\temp) and bootsector. Only alternative is to switch to the freedos installation directory manually and execute postinst.bat there. Is there a step I'm missing in installing from floppies here? Or a way to force the next step after a clean install and rebooting with the install floppy instead of the non-booting hdd? as above. Boot from diskette, press F5 and pray everything goes OK :) I'm used to a bit defensive programming, so postinst.bat shouldn't depend too much on earlier executed files. I hope you're able to finish installation. I'm not fond of testing the diskette installation procedure, as disk swapping in a virtual machine is kind of problematic. New harddrive + a set of diskettes should do wonders for me. Thanks Bernd --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
