Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-06 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Thanks, Ralf:


It seems you have never used DOS before (or only a very long time ago).


I was using DOS raw in my daily tasks over three decades ago!

That "INSTALL" you are referring to is a special config.sys command to 
install (load) device drivers and such. It has nothing to do with 
"installing an app" (there is strictly seen nothing that needs to be 
"installed" in DOS, unlike in a lot of newer OS).


I've found an ambiguity in the instructions, that can cause confusion!

.BAT is (along with .COM and .EXE) a direct executable file. However to 
run directly executable files (like the GEM.BAT you mentioned) you 
either have to


- provide the full path (like "\fdos\opengem\gem.bat" to start it (if 
that folder has been previously been extracted),  or


- change in the opengem folder (with "cd opengem") and type "gem.bat"

- or simply type "gem.bat" if the folder with that executable files is 
"in the path" (which is an environment variable and you can check that 
by simply typing "path")


Thank you; it's all coming back to me (murkily)!
:-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-06 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Thanks, Johnpaul:


To add to the wonderful GEM discussion, when I run GEM on my modern
laptop running FreeDOS and OpenGEM, GEM produces a blank white screen.


I have now gotten GEM working on a 32 bit Dell PC under FreeDOS.


However, in safe mode, it works fine (though some pixmaps or
characters are missing.)


I am not able to get rid of the calculator, clock and print spooler. If 
say I drag the Calculator over the Wastebasket--it just sits, without 
any indication of focus-shift. All I can do is quit GEM!



So that means that some driver messes with
GEM.


On quitting GEM, I see the following error.
{CHDIR failed for 'GEMAPPS\GEMSYS'.}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Ralf Quint

On 1/5/2021 1:01 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:

I still have a problem, Jim:

That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked, 
and specific paths usually don't matter much.


As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer. 
That is physically-separate from my 64-bit Linux computers--save for 
sharing a VGA monitor with the laptop, via a KVM switch. The Dell is 
only using FreeDOS. None of my computers are using emulators!


I rebooted the Dell, which said: "Welcome to the FreeDOS 1.2 operating 
system...".


Then I tried the following.
C:\>install=\fdos\opengem\gem.bat

As I have previously posted, I have been unable to use "install" on 
the FreeDOS machine! So The above yielded this error.

{Bad command or filename - "install".}

Yet "help install" says: "INSTALL is a CONFIG.SYS /FDCONFIG.SYS 
command.".


And just "help" says: "These are the config.sys /fdconfig.sys 
commands:... install".


So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the 
above error, when I try to use "install!.


It seems you have never used DOS before (or only a very long time ago).

That "INSTALL" you are referring to is a special config.sys command to 
install (load) device drivers and such. It has nothing to do with 
"installing an app" (there is strictly seen nothing that needs to be 
"installed" in DOS, unlike in a lot of newer OS).


.BAT is (along with .COM and .EXE) a direct executable file. However to 
run directly executable files (like the GEM.BAT you mentioned) you 
either have to


- provide the full path (like "\fdos\opengem\gem.bat" to start it (if 
that folder has been previously been extracted),  or


- change in the opengem folder (with "cd opengem") and type "gem.bat"

- or simply type "gem.bat" if the folder with that executable files is 
"in the path" (which is an environment variable and you can check that 
by simply typing "path")



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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Johnpaul Humphrey
To add to the wonderful GEM discussion, when I run GEM on my modern
laptop running FreeDOS and OpenGEM, GEM produces a blank white screen.
However, in safe mode, it works fine (though some pixmaps or
characters are missing.) So that means that some driver messes with
GEM.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 4:19 AM Bryan Kilgallin  wrote:
>
> Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote:
>
> > In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a
> > test-directory. This is what it contains
>
> Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys
> therein, contains the following.
>
> {
> SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS
>
> !COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
> !LASTDRIVE=Z
> !BUFFERS=20
> !FILES=40
> !MENUCOLOR=7,0
>
> MENUDEFAULT=1,5
> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded
> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
>
> 124?DOS=HIGH
> 12?DOS=UMB
> 124?DOSDATA=UMB
> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
> 234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
> 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
> 34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote:

In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a 
test-directory. This is what it contains


Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys 
therein, contains the following.


{
SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS

!COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!MENUCOLOR=7,0

MENUDEFAULT=1,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)

124?DOS=HIGH
12?DOS=UMB
124?DOSDATA=UMB
1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

I wrote:


So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the 
above error, when I try to use "install!.


I discovered that my old USB stick installation of FreeDOS wasn't 
recognised--because I had wrongly inserted it into a network/Ethernet 
port! Then replacing that drive into a USB port on my FreeDOS computer, 
I booted into that. In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a 
test-directory. This is what it contains. But I couldn't even use HELP!


{
!COUNTRY=001,858:\FDSetup\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40

DOS=HIGH
DOS=UMB
DOSDATA=UMB

DEVICE=\FDSetup\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE

SHELLHIGH=\FDSetup\BIN\COMMAND.COM \FDSetup\BIN /E:2048 /P=\AUTOEXEC.BAT
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

I still have a problem, Jim:

That's the nice thing about DOS - 
everything is statically linked, and specific paths usually don't matter 
much.


As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer. 
That is physically-separate from my 64-bit Linux computers--save for 
sharing a VGA monitor with the laptop, via a KVM switch. The Dell is 
only using FreeDOS. None of my computers are using emulators!


I rebooted the Dell, which said: "Welcome to the FreeDOS 1.2 operating 
system...".


Then I tried the following.
C:\>install=\fdos\opengem\gem.bat

As I have previously posted, I have been unable to use "install" on the 
FreeDOS machine! So The above yielded this error.

{Bad command or filename - "install".}

Yet "help install" says: "INSTALL is a CONFIG.SYS /FDCONFIG.SYS command.".

And just "help" says: "These are the config.sys /fdconfig.sys 
commands:... install".


So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the 
above error, when I try to use "install!.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Sorry about the confusion, Ralf:

Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit 
computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. 


Ok, just to be clear, FreeDOS of course does not run or install on any 
version of Linux, be it 32bit or 64bit.


I have Ubuntu Linux on two 64-bit computers. While I have FreeDOS 1.2 
installed on a 32-bit computer.


Being a user of both Ubuntu (on 64 bit computers) and FreeDOS (on a 
32-bit computer), I chose for the latter version 1.2--and not 1.3 as a 
more-competent previous-poster had wrongly-assumed of me!


Therefor, what you failed to 
mention, at least I could not find it in any previous post of yours 
(unless I missed one, had a long and stressful day) is what kind of 
VM/emulator you are using in order to try and install/run FreeDOS.


I had used a 64-bit computer running Ubuntu 20.04.1 to make a FreeDOS 
CD-ROM. I then put the latter into the 32-bit FreeDOS computer. And I 
have been since struggling with the latter.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Further, Jim:

But even if you don't have 
FDIMPLES, you can still install packages "manually." Just unzip them and 
put the files wherever you like.


From the CD-ROM (D:\UTIL), I unzipped OPENGEM.ZIP.
Now in the 32 bit PC I have C:\FDOS\OPENGEM
Within that, I used MORE on README.TXT.
{Run the "INSTALL.BAT" file
Bad command or filename - "run"
Bad command or filename - "install.bat".}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-05 Thread Ralf Quint

On 1/4/2021 11:42 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:

As a mere user, Jim, I am finding procedures problematic:

On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are 
under UTIL.


Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit 
computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. 


Ok, just to be clear, FreeDOS of course does not run or install on any 
version of Linux, be it 32bit or 64bit. Therefor, what you failed to 
mention, at least I could not find it in any previous post of yours 
(unless I missed one, had a long and stressful day) is what kind of 
VM/emulator you are using in order to try and install/run FreeDOS...


Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-04 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

As a mere user, Jim, I am finding procedures problematic:

On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under 
UTIL.


Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, 
so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2.


If you installed FreeDOS 1.2 "Base", then you didn't get FDIMPLES. 
That's fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 rc3, but in FreeDOS 1.2 you don't get 
FDIMPLES unless you do a "Full" install.


I have done that twice, first "Full", and then Full with Source. Even 
though I can't use the latter! I got the same errors posted-about 
previously.


Also I want to report a design-error. The FDIMPLES start-up information 
mentions that something would happen if I pressed "F8". But all that 
screen-display flashed past and was over before I could either 
understand, or act upon that advice!


But even if you don't have 
FDIMPLES, you can still install packages "manually." Just unzip them and 
put the files wherever you like.


I had previously tried that unsuccessfully. First on a 64 bit PC with 
Ubuntu. And then via some batch file on the old 32 bit machine.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-04 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Further teething-trouble, Jim:

On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under 
UTIL.


Thank you, I have found those.
D:\UTIL\OPENGEM.ZIP

On the 32-bit PC, in FreeDOS Installer, I selected "[X]" OPENGEM in 
"[+]" Utilities. Then (I think by tabbing), I highlighted "OK" at the 
bottom of the blue FDIMPLES screen. And I clicked the "Enter" key.


{install d:\util\opengem.zip
Error: custom dir 'links' is not a valid absolute path!
A:\>}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Hall
On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under
UTIL.

On FreeDOS 1.3, they are under "Graphical Desktops"

If you installed FreeDOS 1.2 "Base", then you didn't get FDIMPLES. That's
fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 rc3, but in FreeDOS 1.2 you don't get FDIMPLES unless
you do a "Full" install. But even if you don't have FDIMPLES, you can still
install packages "manually." Just unzip them and put the files wherever you
like. That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked,
and specific paths usually don't matter much.



On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:56 AM Bryan Kilgallin 
wrote:

> I am having trouble here, Brandon:
>
> > Make sure your FreeDOS CD is in the drive.
>
> Using my 64 bit Linux computer, I downloaded the legacy CD-ROM, saved to
> disk named "FDI-CD1". This contains folders: ARCHIVER, BASE, BOOT,
> DEVEL, EDIT, GAMES, NET, PKGINFO, SOUND, and UTIL; and the files
> boot.cat and boot.img.
>
> > Then run FDIMPLES.
>
> I put the newly recorded CD-ROM into my old 32 bit PC. I switched the
> focus to D:. DIR/W says that the volume in drive D is FDI-CD. Then I
> typed "FDIMPLES". Resulting in the error "Bad command or filename". The
> same occurs with C:.
>
> I have an old installation on a USB drive recognised as A:. FDIMPLES
> shows the FreeDOS Installer, 0.9.7.
>
> > Go to
> > “Graphical Desktops”, press TAB, press ENTER on “OPENGEM.”
>
> I see listed: Archivers, Base, Boot Tools, Development, Editors, Games,
> Networking, Sound, and Utilities. This list does not contain "Graphical
> Desktops"!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-04 Thread Joao Silva
Thank you, Robert for explanation.

:)


On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:21 PM Robert Riebisch  wrote:

> Hi Ray,
>
> >> I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a
> tyask
> >> with a lot of files.
> >
> > I disagree.  You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees?  A
> > two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones.  Move - on
> > the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files,
> > it just rewrites the table, so it is instant.
> >
> > I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to
> > work with a GUI.  It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller.
>
> My guess: For Joao a TUI is GUI, i.e., anything not commandline is a "GUI".
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-04 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

I am having trouble here, Brandon:


Make sure your FreeDOS CD is in the drive.


Using my 64 bit Linux computer, I downloaded the legacy CD-ROM, saved to 
disk named "FDI-CD1". This contains folders: ARCHIVER, BASE, BOOT, 
DEVEL, EDIT, GAMES, NET, PKGINFO, SOUND, and UTIL; and the files 
boot.cat and boot.img.



Then run FDIMPLES.


I put the newly recorded CD-ROM into my old 32 bit PC. I switched the 
focus to D:. DIR/W says that the volume in drive D is FDI-CD. Then I 
typed "FDIMPLES". Resulting in the error "Bad command or filename". The 
same occurs with C:.


I have an old installation on a USB drive recognised as A:. FDIMPLES 
shows the FreeDOS Installer, 0.9.7.


Go to 
“Graphical Desktops”, press TAB, press ENTER on “OPENGEM.”


I see listed: Archivers, Base, Boot Tools, Development, Editors, Games, 
Networking, Sound, and Utilities. This list does not contain "Graphical 
Desktops"!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-03 Thread Brandon Taylor
Make sure your FreeDOS CD is in the drive. Then run FDIMPLES. Go to “Graphical 
Desktops”, press TAB, press ENTER on “OPENGEM.” Press TAB twice and ENTER on OK.

Personally, however, I find OpenGEM to be quite ugly. My pick would be SEAL, if 
I’m going for beauty.

Brandon Taylor

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Thanks, Jim:

>  > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM".  GEM was released as open source
> back in
>  > 1996.
> Include one in a FreeDOS package.
> --
>
>
>
>
> There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS.

Please remind me where it is, or how to open or get it. In my FreeDOS
installation on an old 32 bit PC, I looked in FDOS. Therein, I looked in
PACKAGES. Then I gave up!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-03 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Thanks, Jim:


 > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM".  GEM was released as open source
back in
 > 1996.
Include one in a FreeDOS package.
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There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS.


Please remind me where it is, or how to open or get it. In my FreeDOS 
installation on an old 32 bit PC, I looked in FDOS. Therein, I looked in 
PACKAGES. Then I gave up!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-03 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 8:05 PM Bryan Kilgallin 
wrote:

> Thanks, geneb:
>
> > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM".  GEM was released as open source back in
> > 1996.
> Include one in a FreeDOS package.
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There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS. :-)
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Ray,

>> I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask 
>> with a lot of files.
> 
> I disagree.  You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees?  A 
> two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones.  Move - on 
> the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files, 
> it just rewrites the table, so it is instant.
> 
> I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to 
> work with a GUI.  It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller.

My guess: For Joao a TUI is GUI, i.e., anything not commandline is a "GUI".

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-03 Thread Ray Davison

Joao Silva wrote:

Hello.

I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask 
with a lot of files.


I disagree.  You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees?  A 
two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones.  Move - on 
the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files, 
it just rewrites the table, so it is instant.


I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to 
work with a GUI.  It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller.


Ray



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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-03 Thread Joao Silva
Hello.

I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask
with a lot of files.

When there wre  only DOS i used a file manager called X-Tree Gold, and
still have him and i found a version for Windows, Z-Tree Gold.

I don't like much windows, i prefer DOS, but there is no way to deny
evolution...

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 8:55 PM ZB  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 08:08:11PM +, Joao Silva wrote:
>
> > In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click
> everything.
> >
> > DOS = No GUI.
> >
> > it's Better, Faster...
>
> Ditto. Aren't we fed up with these "GUIs" everywhere? Really a pity that
> since a longer time I cannot use Lynx, because no site presently has
> alternate pages for text-mode browser, that was keeping all that shiny
> "trendy-jazzy" trash away, passing through just pure information I was
> looking for
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Thanks, geneb:

Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM".  GEM was released as open source back in 
1996.

Include one in a FreeDOS package.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread geneb

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021, Dave Stevens wrote:


On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:34:41 -0600
Doctor Vell  wrote:


Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS?


don't know if it still exists but there's GEM:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEM_(desktop_environment)

Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM".  GEM was released as open source back in 
1996.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread ZB
On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 08:08:11PM +, Joao Silva wrote:

> In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click everything.
> 
> DOS = No GUI.
> 
> it's Better, Faster...

Ditto. Aren't we fed up with these "GUIs" everywhere? Really a pity that
since a longer time I cannot use Lynx, because no site presently has
alternate pages for text-mode browser, that was keeping all that shiny
"trendy-jazzy" trash away, passing through just pure information I was
looking for
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:34:41 -0600
Doctor Vell  wrote:

> Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS?

don't know if it still exists but there's GEM:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEM_(desktop_environment)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread Joao Silva
Hello!

In DOS, PC-DOS, MS-DOS or FreeDOS there is a prompt, not a shell like
Windows from 1 to 3.11.

Windows 95/98 are a GUI to DOS.

In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click everything.

DOS = No GUI.

it's Better, Faster...

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:36 PM Doctor Vell  wrote:

> Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread Eric Auer


> Like GEM?
> 
> https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/

You mean OpenGEM ;-)

http://www.opendawn.com/opengem/

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/opengem.html

https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/opengem/OpenGEM%20SDK%203/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/OldFiles/

https://cyberside.net.ee/files/gui/opengem/screenshots/

Or something like that ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread Greg Gerke via Freedos-user
Like GEM?

[https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/](https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/1x)3x

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