Re: [Freedos-user] IMPORTANT Off Topic -- U.S. Medical Costs!!

2011-08-04 Thread dos386
 Over $49,000 which did not include
 separate bills by all doctors involved!!

 I asked that hospital's people why they charge
 so much.   Because we CAN charge so much!!

:kalashnikov:

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Re: [Freedos-user] IMPORTANT Off Topic -- U.S. Medical Costs!!

2011-08-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-8-2011 0:51, Jack schreef:

 Re: my 25-Jun-2011 gall-bladder removal, the hospital has
 finally sent a $960 bill for my co-pay (amount not paid
 by my medical insurance company).   I sent a check today.

you missed a 'good' opportunity to visit Europe :)

Youtube lists some documentaries, guess Michael Moore's SICKO movie as 
well. No comments on that movie hehe, would form a 100-responses thread.

All in all healthcare here in Europe is pretty decent and affordable, 
despite waiting lists for some stuff and costs/contributions rising 
quite fast. Yay privatizing things and insurance companies becoming a 
man-in-the-middle.


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Re: [Freedos-user] IMPORTANT Off Topic -- U.S. Medical Costs!!

2011-08-02 Thread Michael C. Robinson
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 01:12 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote:
 Op 3-8-2011 0:51, Jack schreef:
 
  Re: my 25-Jun-2011 gall-bladder removal, the hospital has
  finally sent a $960 bill for my co-pay (amount not paid
  by my medical insurance company).   I sent a check today.
 
 you missed a 'good' opportunity to visit Europe :)
 
 Youtube lists some documentaries, guess Michael Moore's SICKO movie as 
 well. No comments on that movie hehe, would form a 100-responses thread.
 
 All in all healthcare here in Europe is pretty decent and affordable, 
 despite waiting lists for some stuff and costs/contributions rising 
 quite fast. Yay privatizing things and insurance companies becoming a 
 man-in-the-middle.

Assuming the doctors don't misdiagnose you or use antiquated medical
techniques and technology, Europe is great.  This is a good time to
point out that Obama who supposedly fixed medicine in the USA hasn't
fixed anything.  Here's a thought, break up the pharmaceuticals so
there is more competition and lower prices for medicine.  Another
thought, give the health care dollars to the states and make the
states responsible for administering them.  For one thing, many of us
don't want: suicide, birth control, or abortion coverage.  Yeah, suicide
coverage is where national health care is heading.  Never mind the
morality of doctors killing their patients, suicide is cheaper.


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Re: [Freedos-user] IMPORTANT Off Topic -- U.S. Medical Costs!!

2011-08-02 Thread David Griffith
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Michael C. Robinson wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 01:12 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote:
 Op 3-8-2011 0:51, Jack schreef:

 Re: my 25-Jun-2011 gall-bladder removal, the hospital has
 finally sent a $960 bill for my co-pay (amount not paid
 by my medical insurance company).   I sent a check today.

 you missed a 'good' opportunity to visit Europe :)

 Youtube lists some documentaries, guess Michael Moore's SICKO movie as
 well. No comments on that movie hehe, would form a 100-responses thread.

 All in all healthcare here in Europe is pretty decent and affordable,
 despite waiting lists for some stuff and costs/contributions rising
 quite fast. Yay privatizing things and insurance companies becoming a
 man-in-the-middle.

 Assuming the doctors don't misdiagnose you or use antiquated medical
 techniques and technology, Europe is great.  This is a good time to
 point out that Obama who supposedly fixed medicine in the USA hasn't
 fixed anything.  Here's a thought, break up the pharmaceuticals so
 there is more competition and lower prices for medicine.  Another
 thought, give the health care dollars to the states and make the
 states responsible for administering them.  For one thing, many of us
 don't want: suicide, birth control, or abortion coverage.  Yeah, suicide
 coverage is where national health care is heading.

 Never mind the morality of doctors killing their patients, suicide is 
 cheaper.

I suspect that may be part of the reason why the Oath of Hippocrates 
forbids lethal medicines.  Whether you're for or against it, euthanesia 
should be treated very carefully to avoid even the slightest suggestion 
of just killing someone because it's cheaper.

I'm in the US and Obama's meddling resulted in my insurance costs going 
way up.

Now about too big to fail...  How about amending the Sherman Antitrust 
Act so that these companies could be identified and ordered broken up?

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