Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Thomas Adam
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:
 Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.
 
 Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of information?
 
 Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too many
 times, although I tried only once and made a typo.Then I'm confronted
 with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.
 Presumably a cultural reference.

Well, The Beatles are well-known.  If that's too cultural, sorry, although
even my eight year old cousin has heard of them.  The idea behind that isn't
to make it difficult, but rather reduce the amount of spam I have to deal
with.  But with very little work on your part, you should be able to derive
the answer easily enough.

 Was indeed the FvwmTaskBar.   Seemed to have solved the problem
   - Click in the root area
   - Select Modules
   - click on TaskBar
 It magically comes back!!!

It might come back, but now you either have two FvwmTaskBar instances
running because the other one is iconified, or you never iconified the first
one to begin with.

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Thomas Adam
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:00:49PM +0100, Michael Großer wrote:
 After adding this tool to your config, you can press
 MOD5 + MOD4 + F12 (or any other keyboard binding of your choice),
 and a second task bar appears. I chose FvwmWinList to act as a
 second task bar without any form of skip list.

Given you already use FvwmIconMan, why are you then using FvwmWinList?  Why
not just use FvwmIconMan?  FvwmWinList is going bye-bye very very soon, and
the alternative will be FvwmWindowList, WindowList, or FvwmIconMan.  There
will be no migration path away from this module.

Your emergency thing, is easily reduced to:

WindowList (Iconic) ...

But do not use FvwmWinList.

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Großer
Thomas Adam wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:00:49PM +0100, Michael Großer wrote:
 After adding this tool to your config, you can press
 MOD5 + MOD4 + F12 (or any other keyboard binding of your choice),
 and a second task bar appears. I chose FvwmWinList to act as a
 second task bar without any form of skip list.
 
 Given you already use FvwmIconMan, why are you then using FvwmWinList?  Why
 not just use FvwmIconMan?  FvwmWinList is going bye-bye very very soon, and
 the alternative will be FvwmWindowList, WindowList, or FvwmIconMan.  There
 will be no migration path away from this module.
 
 Your emergency thing, is easily reduced to:
 
 WindowList (Iconic) ...
 
 But do not use FvwmWinList.
 
 -- Thomas Adam
 

This choice dates from a time before the discontinuation of FvwmWinList
was discussed over this list. I have to migrate it to FvwmIconMan
(by using two different instances of this class). I just have to
migrate and test this approach. I will do it for sure anytime.
Yesterday I only had one hour to piece together this solution
(and used old code that already existed).



Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:54:29AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:
 I'm praying that next time I log in, the board will forgive and forget my
 earlier typos (related to the upper case requirement), stop counting past
 errors and wipe the slate clean.

If not, let me know and I'll sort it out for you.

As an aside, is there any chanve your MUA (or editor, if like me you use vim
and mutt) could wrap its lines to 66 characters or so?  At the moment I'm
having to wrap your responses correctly as they're coming through all on one
line which is bloody irritating.

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Leo Simon

On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:54:29AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:

I'm praying that next time I log in, the board will forgive and forget my
earlier typos (related to the upper case requirement), stop counting past
errors and wipe the slate clean.


If not, let me know and I'll sort it out for you.


Seems ok now, I just have to train myself to remember to upper-case the first letter of 
my password




As an aside, is there any chanve your MUA (or editor, if like me you use vim 
and mutt) could wrap its lines to 66 characters or so?  At the moment I'm 
having to wrap your responses correctly as they're coming through all on one 
line which is bloody irritating.


Hmmm, I've trained vim on my pine editor to unwrap, because I
inhabit, unfortunately an increasingly non-unix world, and 66
line wraps look terrible in gmail, etc.   I'll try to remember to
reset textwidth when communicating in my preferred world!

Perhaps irrelevant, since now I seem to be no longer locked out of
the forum!!!



-- Thomas Adam





Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Frédéric Perrin

On 05.01.2012 11:54, Thomas Adam wrote:

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:

Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.


Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of 
information?


Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried too 
many
times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm 
confronted

with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.
Presumably a cultural reference.


Well, The Beatles are well-known.


Ironically, there is a typo in Ringo's name (two cap letters at the
beginning).

--
Fred -- http://tar-jx.bz




Re: FVWM: Unhide a hidden taskbar

2012-01-05 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 03:12:07PM +0100, Frédéric Perrin wrote:
 On 05.01.2012 11:54, Thomas Adam wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:56:00AM -0800, Leo Simon wrote:
 Tried to post this on the forum but it wouldn't let me log on.
 
 Right -- and you forget/entered incorrectly which piece of
 information?
 
 Never get a chance to find out, I'm always told that I've tried
 too many
 times, although I tried only once and made a typo. Then I'm
 confronted
 with a CAPTCHA that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.
 Presumably a cultural reference.
 
 Well, The Beatles are well-known.
 
 Ironically, there is a typo in Ringo's name (two cap letters at the
 beginning).

It's deliberate -- an article I read somewhere advocating the CAPTCHA
technique I'm using said such tactics are sometimes enough to fool simple
bots.

-- Thomas Adam