Re: FVWM: Default configuration
Hi there, On 27 Aug 2003 at 19:21:17 +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: Using the CDE theme one gets black foreground on black background. Any hints how to change this? Uwe, please spend some minutes and install fvwm and then fvwm-themes properly (i.e. using ./configure; make; make install) without any copying of directories or correcting paths, otherwise you will surely experience problems in one or another place. You are right I copied some files and adapted some paths since it is not that easy to get it work on many machines for many users. Some users have different settings of PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH and on machines do not have a local installed perl or gawk. That's the cause I played around. Most times it works on my box, but asking my collegue shows that it is different for another user and/or machine. Then if there is any problem, I will be glad to help. The CDE and Luthien themes depend on FvwmM4 and awk, in case the problem still persists. I copied (again I know :) the file colors from the default theme to the cde directory. So I got now this color scheme with CDE. This works - I think we don't need different color settings for CDE so this workaround is sufficient. Thanks again, Mikhael, for the help and the hints. Cheers, Uwe BTW: Good work on fvwm-themes :-) For most users having a window manager that preconfigured is good since they can immediately start working and have a nice and useable look too. Hopefully I get the time to integrate my fvwm settings in a theme ;-) -- ,_, For personal reply/mail put fvwm (O,O) in the subject. ( ) Otherwise I won't receive our mail. --- -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On 27 Aug 2003 09:07:06 +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: Hi there, On 27 Aug 2003 at 00:06:13 +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: The data directory is actually prefix/share/fvwm. As for the original question, I would just put fvwm-themes-start instead of fvwm to the user's start up scripts and stop to worry. The users then could choose themselves any look and feel they want (or leave the default theme). I had a try with fvwm-themes. I installed it as described but after starting it there is no theme selection at all. In one of my logfiles there is a message which seems to come from fvwm-themes: Can't load module Data::Dumper, dynamic loading not available in this perl. (You may need to build a new perl executable which either supports dynamic loading or has the Data::Dumper module statically linked into it.) at /home/4all/packages/fvwm-2.5.7/themes/bin/fvwm-themes-config line 618 Could this state the cause for the failure? Is there a way to get it run without upgrading perl? dynamic loading not available in this perl? This is the first time I see report. Did you compile perl yourself and disable some features at compile time? It seems unlikely that any distributer distributes perl without such core feature. After searching in Google, one of the possible reasons may be your libperl.so not corresponding to your perl executable, that is f.e. at: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so It seems that your perl instalation is partially broken, so I suggest to install some distibuted binary package (or compile yourself). Otherwise, what happens if you comment our the require Data::Dumper; line and add use Data::Dumper; at the beginning of the script? Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On 27 Aug 2003 09:07:06 +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: Hi there, On 27 Aug 2003 at 00:06:13 +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: The data directory is actually prefix/share/fvwm. As for the original question, I would just put fvwm-themes-start instead of fvwm to the user's start up scripts and stop to worry. The users then could choose themselves any look and feel they want (or leave the default theme). I had a try with fvwm-themes. I installed it as described but after starting it there is no theme selection at all. In one of my logfiles there is a message which seems to come from fvwm-themes: Can't load module Data::Dumper, dynamic loading not available in this perl. (You may need to build a new perl executable which either supports dynamic loading or has the Data::Dumper module statically linked into it.) at /home/4all/packages/fvwm-2.5.7/themes/bin/fvwm-themes-config line 618 Could this state the cause for the failure? Is there a way to get it run without upgrading perl? dynamic loading not available in this perl? This is the first time I see report. Did you compile perl yourself and disable some features at compile time? It seems unlikely that any distributer distributes perl without such core feature. After searching in Google, one of the possible reasons may be your libperl.so not corresponding to your perl executable, that is f.e. at: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so It seems that your perl instalation is partially broken, so I suggest to install some distibuted binary package (or compile yourself). Otherwise, what happens if you comment our the require Data::Dumper; line and add use Data::Dumper; at the beginning of the script? Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
Hi there, On 27 Aug 2003 at 11:21:38 +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: dynamic loading not available in this perl? This is the first time I see report. Did you compile perl yourself and disable some features at compile time? It seems unlikely that any distributer distributes perl without such core feature. After searching in Google, one of the possible reasons may be your libperl.so not corresponding to your perl executable, that is f.e. at: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so You pointed it out :-) I am on the university network where a lot versions of programs are installed. I compiled fvwm and fvwm-themes on a solaris 5.6 machine to get it run at most of our boxes. This machine has no own perl so it uses one provided by the university's network. My box has it's own perl so there was actually a dynamic link problem. I have changed the path to perl in fvwm-themes-config and it works ;-) As we say the problem is always sitting in front of the keyboard :-) Thanks for your help. Cheers, Uwe -- ,_, For personal reply/mail put fvwm (O,O) in the subject. ( ) Otherwise I won't receive our mail. --- -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On 27 Aug 2003 10:50:19 +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: You pointed it out :-) I am on the university network where a lot versions of programs are installed. I compiled fvwm and fvwm-themes on a solaris 5.6 machine to get it run at most of our boxes. This machine has no own perl so it uses one provided by the university's network. My box has it's own perl so there was actually a dynamic link problem. I have changed the path to perl in fvwm-themes-config and it works ;-) The correct way is of course to install fvwm and fvwm-themes after setting either PATH or PERL to point to the correct perl, like /usr/univ/perl5.005. Otherwise you may manually edit the first script lines, but you should do this for all fvwm-* and fvwm-themes-* scripts, not just one script. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
Hi there, On 27 Aug 2003 at 13:21:09 +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: Theme switching works now :-) Using the CDE theme one gets black foreground on black background. Any hints how to change this? Cheers, Uwe -- ,_, For personal reply/mail put fvwm (O,O) in the subject. ( ) Otherwise I won't receive our mail. --- -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On 27 Aug 2003 13:21:09 +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: On 27 Aug 2003 at 13:43:45 +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: The correct way is of course to install fvwm and fvwm-themes after setting either PATH or PERL to point to the correct perl, like /usr/univ/perl5.005. Otherwise you may manually edit the first script lines, but you should do this for all fvwm-* and fvwm-themes-* scripts, not just one script. Well, I did that and fvwm-themes starts now as expected. But I cannot do a theme change. After selecting for example Theme Management - CDE - [all] nothing happens apart from that all windows do not get focus anymore so I cannot type anything in shells etc. even mouse clicks are not accepted. Only restart seems to help. There are no meaningful entries in the log files. The only thing which seems to come from fvwm-theme is [FVWM][expand_vars]: DEPRECATED Use $[version.line] instead of $v [FvwmScript][ReadConfig]: ERROR Can't open the script FvwmScript-NoteMessage ... wait ... I got it work. I copied all scripts from path/packages/fvwm-2.5.7/themes/share/fvwm to path/packages/fvwm-2.5.7/share/fvwm and started over. Theme switching works now :-) Wonderfull!!! Thanks again. And then: Using the CDE theme one gets black foreground on black background. Any hints how to change this? Uwe, please spend some minutes and install fvwm and then fvwm-themes properly (i.e. using ./configure; make; make install) without any copying of directories or correcting paths, otherwise you will surely experience problems in one or another place. Then if there is any problem, I will be glad to help. The CDE and Luthien themes depend on FvwmM4 and awk, in case the problem still persists. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:08:04AM +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: Hi together, I am in setting up a fvwm installation for a number of people. Is there a default configuration file for fvwm or is the default compiled in only? I checked my local installation but there does not seem a default config in it. I would prefer a system wide config since it is simpler to maintain. There are a couple of built-in defaults and the ConfigFvwmDefaults file. Other than that, the man page describes how fvwm looks for its config file: Fvwm first searches for configuration files using the command Read .fvwm2rc This looks for .fvwm2rc in $HOME/.fvwm or $FVWM_USERDIR directories, as described in Read below. If this fails, fvwm also searches for this file in the $HOME directory or for system.fvwm2rc file in the system place. If a config uration file is not found, any mouse button or the Help or F1 keys on the root window brings up menus and forms that can create a starting configuration file. Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
Uwe Pross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in setting up a fvwm installation for a number of people. Is there a default configuration file for fvwm or is the default compiled in only? I checked my local installation but there does not seem a default config in it. I would prefer a system wide config since it is simpler to maintain. Put your config file in: /full/filename/of/systemwide/configfile Then ask your users to put: Read /full/filename/of/systemwide/configfile in their $HOME/.fvwmrc. -- Rouben Rostamian [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:08:43PM +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: Hi there, On 26 Aug 2003 at 12:59:31 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote: This looks for .fvwm2rc in $HOME/.fvwm or $FVWM_USERDIR directories, as described in Read below. If this fails, fvwm also searches for this file in the $HOME directory or for system.fvwm2rc file in the system place. The system place it the one given with the --prefix option during configuration? Unless specified differently, it's prefix/share/fvwm/version (The data directory in the configure summary with version appended). Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Default configuration
On 26 Aug 2003 15:49:36 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:08:43PM +0200, Uwe Pross wrote: Hi there, On 26 Aug 2003 at 12:59:31 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote: This looks for .fvwm2rc in $HOME/.fvwm or $FVWM_USERDIR directories, as described in Read below. If this fails, fvwm also searches for this file in the $HOME directory or for system.fvwm2rc file in the system place. The system place it the one given with the --prefix option during configuration? Unless specified differently, it's prefix/share/fvwm/version (The data directory in the configure summary with version appended). The data directory is actually prefix/share/fvwm. As for the original question, I would just put fvwm-themes-start instead of fvwm to the user's start up scripts and stop to worry. The users then could choose themselves any look and feel they want (or leave the default theme). Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
