Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 11:32 PM -0500 2/26/09, Dan posted: At 2:42 PM -0800 2/26/2009, Scott Fiore wrote: own a Motorola Surfboard 5220 modem (about 1 1/2 years old) that I connect to my Airport Express. I received a call from my internet provider this morning notifying me that because this modem is being discontinued by Motorola, it will soon stop working and I will need to buy or rent a new modem. Does this sound right? yes, and no. And welcome to the quandry posed by owning your own telecom gear instead of renting... Due to the way cable modems work, the ones on a provider's network *must* be fully supported by their CMTS (head end router). I think you'll find that your ToS states that they can tell you what make model modems are permitted. That being said... It's baloney that the modem is going to stop working just because Motorola is discontinuing that model. Total baloney. The truth is that the cable company simply no longer wants to support that model, so they're going to unprovision them (shut them down intentionally). Why? Two main reasons: 1) Evil company etc. 2) They're upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0, and your modem doesn't support that faster protocol. You could try googling to see if there are any hacks available to reprogramme your modem to your ISP's new settings. Problem being, you need the new settings (a friend or neighbour on the same ISP after the changeover could find those settings for you) and you'd be offline after the changeover until you were able to make the changes. There's no guarantee a hack would work or be accepted by your ISP's line but it might be worth a try. When I changed ISPs, my old ISP modem was wireless and 4-port. The new ISP modem was the same, with three ports and wireless disabled. Google gave me several hits on how to hack the new modem -- I declined the risk because I had an unused router that could serve the same functions. A neighbour also changed ISPs and did hack his new ISP modem, which has been working fine with the 4 ports and wireless for more than a year. (He has more money than me to replace the modem if he messed up.) Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How works the sliding DVD/CD drive door on a desktop tower G5?
How works the sliding DVD/CD drive door on a desktop tower G5? I have a G5 tower, but the sliding door covering the disk drive has slid down to the open position and is not connected to the drive slide at all. What makes this door slide up and down. There seems to be no connection between the door and the slide. Are there parts missing? And where is it possible to get a picture of how this is connected? Any help would be appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quite External Drive
On Feb 1, 8:15 am, Cliff redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jan 31, 1:57 pm, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:43 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: The quietness of my MacMinihas me spoiled. I had a LaCieMiniwhich developed a loud fan noise. It was replaced with a LaCie Big Disk as they offered me a great deal, but it too is noisy. Can anyone attest to the noise level of the NewerTech miniStack? I have two NewerTech miniStacks from OWC, a Version 1 and a Version 2. Both are not audible at all, even after extended periods of continual usage. Could noise be a function of the drive installed? I also have a v.1 v.2 miniStack and they (or at least one of them) is audibly noticeable. Maybe this is because I boot from it rather than my G4Mini? To update my experience. I had my v.1 v.2 miniStack stacked but almost immediated it seemed they were too hot. at least the one from which I boot. so, I had them spaced with rubber stoppers: space below and between with the boot drive on the bottom Still the boot drive fan seemed to run a lot. After thinking about this thread I reversed them then the backup drive fan ran so I unstacked them but still have them spaced up with stoppers. and it's much better, less fan. Clearly the drive you put in is a factor as my boot drive has a very slight but noticeable whine. hth Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
Steve R wrote: At 11:32 PM -0500 2/26/09, Dan posted: At 2:42 PM -0800 2/26/2009, Scott Fiore wrote: own a Motorola Surfboard 5220 modem (about 1 1/2 years old) that I connect to my Airport Express. I received a call from my internet provider this morning notifying me that because this modem is being discontinued by Motorola, it will soon stop working and I will need to buy or rent a new modem. Does this sound right? yes, and no. And welcome to the quandry posed by owning your own telecom gear instead of renting... Due to the way cable modems work, the ones on a provider's network *must* be fully supported by their CMTS (head end router). I think you'll find that your ToS states that they can tell you what make model modems are permitted. That being said... It's baloney that the modem is going to stop working just because Motorola is discontinuing that model. Total baloney. The truth is that the cable company simply no longer wants to support that model, so they're going to unprovision them (shut them down intentionally). Why? Two main reasons: 1) Evil company etc. 2) They're upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0, and your modem doesn't support that faster protocol. You could try googling to see if there are any hacks available to reprogramme your modem to your ISP's new settings. Problem being, you need the new settings (a friend or neighbour on the same ISP after the changeover could find those settings for you) and you'd be offline after the changeover until you were able to make the changes. There's no guarantee a hack would work or be accepted by your ISP's line but it might be worth a try. When I changed ISPs, my old ISP modem was wireless and 4-port. The new ISP modem was the same, with three ports and wireless disabled. Google gave me several hits on how to hack the new modem -- I declined the risk because I had an unused router that could serve the same functions. A neighbour also changed ISPs and did hack his new ISP modem, which has been working fine with the 4 ports and wireless for more than a year. (He has more money than me to replace the modem if he messed up.) Steve R Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 12:01 PM -0500 2/27/2009, Steve R wrote: You could try googling to see if there are any hacks available to reprogramme your modem to your ISP's new settings. If the issue is a DOCSIS upgrade then there can be no hack. That modem just won't do it. Problem being, you need the new settings (a friend or neighbour on the same ISP after the changeover could find those settings for you) and you'd be offline after the changeover until you were able to make the changes. What changes do you think could be made? As soon as that modem comes back online, after being unprovisioned, two things will happen: 1) Its routing will be limited to the cable company's LAN so it can get access to the CMTS, auth, and tftp servers (this is part of the normal init sequence). 2) The administrators will be notified - and they'll pounce. There's no guarantee a hack would work or be accepted by your ISP's line but it might be worth a try. No, it's not worth a try. Breaking into an ISP's network is a criminal offense. When I changed ISPs, my old ISP modem was wireless and 4-port. The new ISP modem was the same, with three ports and wireless disabled. Google gave me several hits on how to hack the new modem -- I declined the risk because I had an unused router that could serve the same functions. A neighbour also changed ISPs and did hack his new ISP modem, which has been working fine with the 4 ports and wireless for more than a year. (He has more money than me to replace the modem if he messed up.) Now you're talking about changing normal config parameters that the cable company doesn't care about - things on the LAN side of the modem, not the WAN side. And you're still running the same rev DOCSIS. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth to Supertooth
You could also try getting hold of a 500 MHz DP (Double Processor) from a Gigabit Sawtooth. These are cheap and are about the speed of 800 MHz SP. You have to make sure you have the later Logic board fitted. If You google for this info you will find out how to tell which LB you have. I converted my 400 MHz ST to a 500 DP a while back and it is a great improvement. John (UK). On Feb 26, 4:58 am, tortoise cymraeg...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 23, 10:13 am, dadadata dadad...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Sawtooth 450mhz with AGP video. Is there any CPU drop-in that will take it to around 600-650mhz? The same kind of retrofit thingys are selling on ebay, prices range $30-50 Now how about a 600-650 ZIF ?? I can do, but don't want to do, the extra wiring tweaks involved in retrofitting a G4 Digital Audio CPU. And I realize there's a 1.xx gig upgrade available; I don't need that extra speed for this machine, which is not my main desktop. All hints Appreciated Much. -- COD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 12:07 PM -0700 2/27/2009, nestamicky wrote: Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? On the WAN side, very little if it's the direct connection to the ISP - they control that side and will rip your liver out if you fool with it. On the LAN side (wired or wireless)... depends on the device. Some let you tweak the size of the NAT table etc. Some let you bridge easily - so you can daisy chain them to create really large coverage areas. ...Given the rate at which wifi standards change, you might be better of selling 'em now while you can get a few bucks for 'em! :\ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
Dan wrote: At 12:07 PM -0700 2/27/2009, nestamicky wrote: Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? On the WAN side, very little if it's the direct connection to the ISP - they control that side and will rip your liver out if you fool with it. On the LAN side (wired or wireless)... depends on the device. Some let you tweak the size of the NAT table etc. Some let you bridge easily - so you can daisy chain them to create really large coverage areas. ...Given the rate at which wifi standards change, you might be better of selling 'em now while you can get a few bucks for 'em! :\ - Dan. I was mainly thinking the LAN side. I do not mess with the ISP; the usually have all the tools and time to crack down on customers. I don't. I might try the daisy chain thing until someone comes up with a great way to 'play' with these things. These are old b routers and would not bring in anything, really. Part of the reason they're with me...from those who moved on to better and bigger routers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 2:08 PM -0500 2/27/09, Dan posted: Now you're talking about changing normal config parameters that the cable company doesn't care about - things on the LAN side of the modem, not the WAN side. And you're still running the same rev DOCSIS. No, I'm not. The new ISP programmes their modem/bridge to a non-standard, so the modem WAN settings had to be discovered before any hacked firmware could be applied. The original poster's ISP may be changing their WAN settings after the change so even if those settings are known now, they will need to be verified after the change. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 12:07 PM -0700 2/27/09, nestamicky posted: Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? Are you familiar with Bastard Sons of Dialup/BSoD? Check out their website http://bsodtv.org for their blogs and web episodes. Their stuff is Windows-centric and way over my head but it is interesting to see what can be done with older equipment. Their stuff is also showing up on legal torrents and usenet. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clamshell issues??
On Feb 27, 2009, at 2:12 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: How do you do the verbose mode in os 10 Hold down the Cmd-v keys at startup. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 3:25 PM -0500 2/27/2009, Steve R wrote: At 2:08 PM -0500 2/27/09, Dan posted: Now you're talking about changing normal config parameters that the cable company doesn't care about - things on the LAN side of the modem, not the WAN side. And you're still running the same rev DOCSIS. No, I'm not. The new ISP programmes their modem/bridge to a non-standard Explain please non-standard. DOCSIS devices don't go off-standard. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
Howdy, It is pretty open ended. I have seen voice over ip servers, ftp server, samba servers, and customized wireless stuff like WDS. The hackable ones with enough memory are limited by what you want to do with them. Good luck, Ralph On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 12:07 -0700, nestamicky wrote: Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Need graphics utility question.
I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? I've poked around cursorily through Graphic converter and photoshop, and while I can manually set the cropping box the same size in each one, I cannot save this as a preset. Any ideas? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
At 4:04 PM -0500 2/27/09, Dan posted: At 3:25 PM -0500 2/27/2009, Steve R wrote: At 2:08 PM -0500 2/27/09, Dan posted: Now you're talking about changing normal config parameters that the cable company doesn't care about - things on the LAN side of the modem, not the WAN side. And you're still running the same rev DOCSIS. No, I'm not. The new ISP programmes their modem/bridge to a non-standard Explain please non-standard. DOCSIS devices don't go off-standard. Dan, I am not assuming the reason for an upgrade is because the ISP is using DOCSIS. In the case of my neighbour switching ISPs and hacking the new modem, that was not the case. The original poster won't know unless he verifies with his ISP. He asked, I gave him options and a real case scenario of a modem being hacked. It's his choice if he's willing to take the risk. Never know till he tries. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
Howdy, I have seen people script gimp to do stuff like that. You build a script that you activate. You bring up each picture, position the cursor in the upper left corner of the rectangle you want and activate the script. Gimp is not as user friendly as Photoshop, but the filters and scriptability are supposed to be the best of any of the graphics programs. Good luck, Ralph On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 16:34 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
Bruce Johnson wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? I've poked around cursorily through Graphic converter and photoshop, and while I can manually set the cropping box the same size in each one, I cannot save this as a preset. Any ideas? Set the crop rectangle using Applescript? tell application GraphicConverter tell window 1 set selection to {200, 200, 400, 400} end tell end tell -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
- Original Message From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? I've poked around cursorily through Graphic converter and photoshop, and while I can manually set the cropping box the same size in each one, I cannot save this as a preset. My first take would be to use scripting such as Ralph suggested and Clark posted. You could also consider the PhotoShop Action palette which is just another scripting function within PhotoShop. --glen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? Have you seen iPhoto 9? image recognition? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? I've poked around cursorily through Graphic converter and photoshop, and while I can manually set the cropping box the same size in each one, I cannot save this as a preset. Any ideas? Bruce, I did something similar for a class reunion. In 1967 the my class album was printed on white semi slick linen paper. The texture made for bad scans. Set up a copy stand used my Nikon D70 to each of the 63 students. I then used iPhoto '06 to crop and pushed the black and white . . . the paper had yellowed and the original head shot were sepia than BW. I set a custom crop box that corresponded to the vinyl ID pouch I used. I then moved the crop box to center on the face. Printed in gray tones to a BW laser on photo paper. Turned out well. I tried PS but I had trouble with repeatability in the crop process. Just getting into iPhoto '09. From what I can tell I could repeat what I did with '06. Imagine '08 would work as well. Deaner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
Hi Listers, After about 6 months of procrastination, tonight I finally did The Deed: Nuke and pave to single partition my iBook's HD and clean it up but good. All was going beautifully, actually it IS going beautifully, except for ONE CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT THING: There is no Classic pane in System Preferences! :-O I don't nuke and pave often, but I've done it enough to make sure that the little box for OS 9 drivers is checked in Disk Utility is checked -- and I know it was checked tonightand I've also never opened my System Prefs and not seen the 9 Classic in the System area -- UNTIL NOW!! Tech Info: iBook G3/800, 30 GB HD, 640 MB RAM -- installed OS X Tiger 10.4.3 from DVD, then ran 10.4.9 Combo Updater. After post-updater reboot and confirmation that I was in 10.4.9 by popping About This Mac, I started loading in all the data gathered onto the flash drives earlier today, including the OS 9.2.2 System Folder to run Classic. However, this system folder is recognized in the Startup Disk pane in System Preferencesnot that I plan to use it for that, but my iBook at least knows it's there! Um, what did I screw up? :blush Will an Archive Reinstall somehow give me my Classic Prefs back? Thanks, ~Yersinia. When you move something to a more logical place, you can only remember where it used to be and your decision to move it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Yersinia wrote: Hi Listers, After about 6 months of procrastination, tonight I finally did The Deed: Nuke and pave to single partition my iBook's HD and clean it up but good. All was going beautifully, actually it IS going beautifully, except for ONE CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT THING: There is no Classic pane in System Preferences! :-O I don't nuke and pave often, but I've done it enough to make sure that the little box for OS 9 drivers is checked in Disk Utility is checked -- and I know it was checked tonightand I've also never opened my System Prefs and not seen the 9 Classic in the System area -- UNTIL NOW!! Tech Info: iBook G3/800, 30 GB HD, 640 MB RAM -- installed OS X Tiger 10.4.3 from DVD, then ran 10.4.9 Combo Updater. After post-updater reboot and confirmation that I was in 10.4.9 by popping About This Mac, I started loading in all the data gathered onto the flash drives earlier today, including the OS 9.2.2 System Folder to run Classic. However, this system folder is recognized in the Startup Disk pane in System Preferencesnot that I plan to use it for that, but my iBook at least knows it's there! Um, what did I screw up? :blush Will an Archive Reinstall somehow give me my Classic Prefs back? Thanks, ~Yersinia. I think you have to install the OS 9 (on a separate partition would be my preference), and make sure it is Blessed. Don't remember the details, but it all occurs under the Installation OS 9 CD control as I would do it. Maybe a CCC clone of another OS 9 partition would work, too. Not sure how Archive and Install handles the OS 9 ... I'm sure someone else can help more ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? I've poked around cursorily through Graphic converter and photoshop, and while I can manually set the cropping box the same size in each one, I cannot save this as a preset. _ For Photoshop A. Make a new canvas specifying the size in the panel from the file menu. B. Save this file with the word template and the ssize in the title. C. Prepare a folder of the pictures to be processed and put them there. D. Familiarize yourself with the transform selection and the move tool. E. The sequence would go something like; 1.Open template__x__ 2.in layers window make a new layer . 3.select all template__x__ 4.open photo 001 5, select all photo 001 6, copy photo 001 to clipboard 7 active template __x__ 8.paste to template__x__ 9.use the transformation tools to scale and position image to taste. (you might save the result of steps 1 to 8 as a folder of PSD files for doing this manually later as you say you need to position each individually.) . save file as to your chosen naming protocol.and format. . Study the help manual for setting up a macro. This is called automated actions. see; http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-7452a.html Once the automated actions are recorded you can set the action in motion for the whole folder. as said you would probably want to save the file as a PSD for later manual scale and positioning of the individual file. PSD format is used as an intermediate step to allow keeping the layer to allow the transform. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---