RE: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
Steven/Bruce I think my only options here are to see if Apple still has the original restore discs - however its probably not 10.4 which is what is on the machine. Bruce I believe was only commenting on the full retail 10.4 option. I do have system restore discs for my wife's iMac, which is 10.4, however i read those will not work. Macofalltrades and powermax both state they they will provide the discs where available - i assume there must be some loophole in regards to the purchase and sale for old used machines. _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 Graphite Video Card Upgrade
My system now has a stock Rage128 Pro Graphics card which is very slow at displaying screens. What upgrade cards are available AGP and would it significantly accelerate displaying and downloading things on the internet. It's VRAM is only 16mb so I'm assuming it's creating a bootleneck to the entire system. Thanks DKline --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Graphite Video Card Upgrade
DKline wrote: My system now has a stock Rage128 Pro Graphics card which is very slow at displaying screens. What upgrade cards are available AGP and would it significantly accelerate displaying and downloading things on the internet. It's VRAM is only 16mb so I'm assuming it's creating a bootleneck to the entire system. Thanks DKline I've had the same video card in my 400 MHz Giganet G4 since I bought it new in 2001. It supported my 22 Samsung flatscreen out of the box when I upgraded about three years ago. And yes, I can watch full screen DVD movies without problems. I seriously doubt a bottleneck as most internet broadband connections are not really *that* fast. Connection speeds can vary as I've seen cable/DSL slow down to a virtual crawl on machines much faster than mine. Now, a bottleneck would certainly occur with high end video/graphics production no doubt as compared to today's machines but that is not the issue here... JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Graphite Video Card Upgrade
On May 9, 2009, at 9:29 AM, DKline wrote: My system now has a stock Rage128 Pro Graphics card which is very slow at displaying screens. What upgrade cards are available AGP and would it significantly accelerate displaying Yes, a faster card would help some. There are many ATI Radeons-7000, 9000, 9600, 9800 and some NVidia GeForces 2Mx, 4Mx 4Ti and 5200, some of which are hacked from G5s to work in G4s. I am running 2 of the hacked cards in my DAs without problems. There are also a variety of flashed pc cards that work, but some have sleep issues. A faster card will help with all screen display chores, redrawing finder windows, scrolling, displaying multiple windows at one time, etc. It is noticeable if you are looking for it. FWIW, my monitor (an older 21 CRT) will not start up OCCASIONALLY when I start up my Mac with it plugged into a hacked AGP 9600. For these times I also have a 16Mb PCI Rage installed. If I am doing my normal workload (light office tasks with way too many icons on the desktop and windows open), I have to pay attention to realize if I have switched back to the 9600. Where it really shows up is screen redraws (opening/closing windows, switching apps) and almost not noticeable for displaying web pages, typing a letter and small photoshop chores. and downloading things on the internet. It will not help with downloading. That is purely a factor of the speed of your connection. It will help SOME with the rendering of web pages on your screen, but not much. It's VRAM is only 16mb so I'm assuming it's creating a bootleneck to the entire system. Thanks DKline The bottleneck is for displaying info. It will not speed up you connection, but overall things will be snappier. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New Flip4Mac is broken?
Apparently the new release of Flip4Mac WM Components 2.2.2.3 is broken. Bad library linkages. So far it's happening on all my G3 systems and now one G4. I posted a note in their forums and got a reply back that it's problematic on G3 -- with no details. The soln, for now, is to revert to 2.2.1.11. (this on Tiger) FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Flip4Mac is broken?
I too had the same result (using OS 10.4.11 on a dual 533 MHz G4 DA). --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Subject: New Flip4Mac is broken? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:51 AM Apparently the new release of Flip4Mac WM Components 2.2.2.3 is broken. Bad library linkages. So far it's happening on all my G3 systems and now one G4. I posted a note in their forums and got a reply back that it's problematic on G3 -- with no details. The soln, for now, is to revert to 2.2.1.11. (this on Tiger) FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Addedum to 68k-Macs
The web address is http://groups.google.com/group/68k-macs/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Addedum to 68k-Macs
DKline wrote: The web address is http://groups.google.com/group/68k-macs/ Is this somehow different than the existing Vintage Macs list? Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 68k-Macs Group
On 9 May 2009, at 12:59:34 PDT, DKline wrote: For anyone interested I've started a group for 68k Macs with software and discussions. Of course these classics will run on any Mac. Thanks DKline - So, what is/was so wrong/bad about the Vintage Macs, Compact Macs and Quadra groups through LEM that you needed to add another? Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On 09-05-2009 04:55, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu, wrote: The above is a complete load of codswallop. Do NOT rely on this snip You won't be able to get a copy of 10.4 from them. Well Bruce, that's quite different here in The Netherlands. Two weeks ago I just bought a brandnew, sealed in the box, Mac OS X Tiger (includes Xcode 2) Install DVD, Version 10.4 2Z691-5305-A from an official Mac-dealer for € 10 = ± US$ 13. I was the 2nd person in this year who asked him for a Tiger Install-DVD and he still has around 25 of these. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
On May 9, 2009, at 6:35 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 09-05-2009 04:55, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu, wrote: The above is a complete load of codswallop. Do NOT rely on this snip You won't be able to get a copy of 10.4 from them. Well Bruce, that's quite different here in The Netherlands. Two weeks ago I just bought a brandnew, sealed in the box, Mac OS X Tiger (includes Xcode 2) Install DVD, Version 10.4 2Z691-5305-A from an official Mac-dealer for € 10 = ± US$ 13. I was the 2nd person in this year who asked him for a Tiger Install-DVD and he still has around 25 of these. Jo Hissel That is a dealer that has new, old stock on hand, not Apple itself. Many dealers probably have some around they would still like to dump, even for 10 Euros or less. This is stock that they either have had sitting around, or from a company that upgraded and still had these in the storage room and gave them to the dealer. If you go to the Apple store and look for Apple software, they only list 10.5.6 and 10.5.4 Server. Searching for 10.4 in the Apple store turns up no hits. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Sending e-mail problem
I'm at my in-laws where we're connected to the web via CoxNet cable. via our iBook G4 through which I'm booting from my portable HD. We're running 10.4.11 When I do the e-mail thing with Eudora 6.0 I can POP receive my mail from yahoo.mail and my machighway account but I cannot send mail ??? It stops at preparing to transfer. so it's either not connecting thourgh the iBook or through CoxNet. advice appreciated Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sending e-mail problem
Cliff writes, I'm at my in-laws where we're connected to the web via CoxNet cable. via our iBook G4 through which I'm booting from my portable HD. We're running 10.4.11 When I do the e-mail thing with Eudora 6.0 I can POP receive my mail from yahoo.mail and my machighway account but I cannot send mail ??? It stops at preparing to transfer. so it's either not connecting thourgh the iBook or through CoxNet. Probably not through CoxNet. I have this same problem sending email out on my iBook (10.4.9) when I'm at a wifi hotspot: I can pick up email with my POP3 client but not send. My emailer is configured to my own ISP's outgoing mailserver, not the wifi provider's. My suggestion: ask your in-laws for their outgoing mailserver info and put that into your email client for while you're at their home. ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sending e-mail problem
Previously, at 8:11 pm -0700 5/9/09, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm at my in-laws where we're connected to the web via CoxNet cable. via our iBook G4 through which I'm booting from my portable HD. We're running 10.4.11 When I do the e-mail thing with Eudora 6.0 I can POP receive my mail from yahoo.mail and my machighway account but I cannot send mail ??? It stops at preparing to transfer. Check your settings to be certain they reflect that you are usinbg cox.net not your own provider? P. -- We are born charming, fresh and spontaneous and must be civilized before we are fit to participate in society. -- Judith Martin, (Miss Manners) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sending e-mail problem
Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm at my in-laws where we're connected to the web via CoxNet cable. via our iBook G4 through which I'm booting from my portable HD. We're running 10.4.11 When I do the e-mail thing with Eudora 6.0 I can POP receive my mail from yahoo.mail and my machighway account but I cannot send mail ??? It stops at preparing to transfer. so it's either not connecting thourgh the iBook or through CoxNet. You need to set up your SMTP settings with authentication. When you connect from home your ISP sees you are on their network and accepts your connection to their SMTP server. When you try to connect from outside your ISP's network it blocks you to prevent people from sending spam through their system. When you set up authentication it lets your ISP know it's one of their customers and they'll allow the connection. You need to check your ISP's web pages for instructions on how to do it. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
