Best Hard Drive for iMac G5 iSight

[Mullin9]

What is the best Hard Drive for iMac G5 iSight,?
In term of I/O performance, Quality, & Dependability.
I Heard that Maxter is what Apple use for it's new Macs,
and Cheetah HDD is quite fast.
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Re: WTB: G5 airport "T" antenna, Airport extreme card, & Leopard retail DVD

[Kris Tilford]

I can sell you the "T" antenna for $12 shipped.

Good luck!

Kris

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Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!

[Will S]

Sorry, Shoot me now ;-)
This I hope will teach to read closer & think before posting.
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Re: B&W won't boot off firewire?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 14, 2009, at 2:29 PM, ronaldo wrote:

>
> So... an unmodified G3 'Smurf' can't boot through either Firewire or
> USB ports... without XPost Facto tricks.  But what about a G3 upgraded
> with a Sonnet G4 400 Mhz card... can anyone pronounce definitively on
> that?

Nope it's a function of the Mobo, not the processor.

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Re: B&W won't boot off firewire?

[ronaldo]

So... an unmodified G3 'Smurf' can't boot through either Firewire or
USB ports... without XPost Facto tricks.  But what about a G3 upgraded
with a Sonnet G4 400 Mhz card... can anyone pronounce definitively on
that?  Just wondering!  ...as I would really like to get an external
HD to back up everything, as my rig is getting JUST a little long in
the tooth (B&W circa 1999-- I believe Rev.1), but upgraded with above
Sonnet G4 and lots of other stuff: PCI cards for USB 2.0 and for SCSI
peripherals, Radeon 7000 graphics card, 768 MB RAM, Sys. 9.2.2 and
Tiger 10.4.6, 55 GB internal HD...  and it all (touch wood!) works
very well-- even Photoshop CS2... altho' Quark 7 runs slow as
molasses, so I tend to use Qrk 5 instead...  I do job-related backups
daily, but would like to have EVERYTHING on a bootable external, for
'if and when' it goes down!  Can anyone say for sure about that?

On Jul 30, 6:22 pm, "Jorjo :)"  wrote:
> The B/W can´t boot from FW/USB Devices..
> just read the B/W Profile in 
> LEMhttp://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html
> "As on the iMac, USB has practically replaced ADB, but Apple left one
> ADB port on the B&W G3 for legacy peripherals. The addition of
> FireWire provides a fast alternative to the missing SCSI. (SCSI PCI
> cards are readily available, allowing access to SCSI hardware.)
> Although this model has FireWire and USB ports (see Apple Knowledge
> Base Article #58430, USB Info and Benefits of Dual-Channel USB), it
> cannot boot from either. Also, it does not support FireWire Target
> Disk Mode."
> Greetings from Chile
>
> On Jul 30, 4:06 pm, Bill Christensen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey folks,
>
> > Is there any hardware related reason that a B&W won't boot off an
> > external firewire drive.  The drive is 250gig, but since it's
> > external that shouldn't really matter.  It's freshly loaded with
> > 10.4.11.
>
> > The same drive boots off my gig ether just fine.
>
> > I've tried two different B&Ws and neither will boot.  One doesn't
> > even see the drive, though that may be because it's got a stripped
> > down version of 9.1 on the internal drive.  The other runs 10.4.11,
> > sees the drive, but won't boot off it.
>
> > The drive is for a friend who has had repeated crash/corruption
> > problems with it on his Sawtooth.  It's a Seagate SATA drive in an
> > OWC Neptune enclosure. We've tried changing FW ports, cables,
> > enclosures, RAM, and even hard drives (the original was a Seagate
> > SATA 500gig) and now I'm wanting to have him try it for a while on
> > one of my spare machines to see if things clear up, thinking it may
> > be a processor or motherboard issue.
>
> > Thanks for suggestions.
> > --
> > Bill Christensen
> > 
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WTB: G5 airport "T" antenna, Airport extreme card, & Leopard retail DVD

[MacGuy]

Subject says all...
Let me know what you've got and how much incl. shipping. Thanks, Jeff



Jeff Engle
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Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!

[Mac User #330250]

Hello mlitwin3797!

I'd say a Quicksilver has more than reached the end of its lifespan. Show me 
one other computer company that made a desktop computer for the mainstream 
market that has lived for 8 years and is still (kind of) supported by the 
latest operating system!

It's time to move on. Innovation doesn't arise from hanging on to old stuff.

Mac OS X 10.5 will be the last Mac OS that is running on PowerPC based Macs. 
End of story.

For the Quicksilvers, the MDDs, and even the older Digital Audio and Gigabit 
Ethernets, it was a great time! From System 7.1.2 to Mac OS X 10.5.8, that is 
quite a lot of Apple history that runs on these machines.

The Power Mac G5's are the only Macs that have a *really* short lifespan, 
considering that the latest G5 series ("Late 2005") was sold until August 
2006, its only three years and the platform will be dropped with the upcoming 
Snow Leopard.

So, if you're a Quicksilver user: be happy!

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
Date:Freitag, 14. August 2009N
From:"mlitwin3797" 
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

>  I agree. Who needs the intel? I just finished upgrading a Quicksilver
> G4 that has Leopard on it. I don't know how the original owner got that on
> but he did. I even have 10.5.8 on it.
> - Original Message -
> From: "MacGuy" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
>
> > On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote:
> >> Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned.
> >> The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was
> >> announced 10.6 is intel o ly.
> >
> > Yes, power PC is "dead" BUT, the powermac G5 that I "JUST" bought
> > is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead..
> > at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff
>
> 


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Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it?

[mlitwin3797]

  10.5.8 worked ok. I don't use Blue Ray or airport though.
- Original Message - 
From: "Al Poulin" 
To: "G3-5 List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already 
has 10.5.7 on it?



On Aug 7, 11:10 pm, ll  wrote:
> Will there be a problem? I just had this computer upgraded from
> 733 to 933 and added ram to total 1.3.I don't have 10.5 dvds to
> reinstall if there is a major problem.

Yes, you should -- some time later.  There is always a risk in making
an OS version "update."  So it is always best to have the Leopard DVD
on hand.  Also, there have been a few problems reported by people
making this update, but if your machine is pretty much plain vanilla
with standard applications and no third-party geeky "enhancements" to
the OS, things should go well.  Check with the 933 hardware vendor for
any problems with the OS update.

Al Poulin


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Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!

[mlitwin3797]

 I agree. Who needs the intel? I just finished upgrading a Quicksilver 
G4 that has Leopard on it. I don't know how the original owner got that on 
but he did. I even have 10.5.8 on it.
- Original Message - 
From: "MacGuy" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!


>
>
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned.
>> The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was
>> announced 10.6 is intel o ly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Yes, power PC is "dead" BUT, the powermac G5 that I "JUST" bought
> is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead..
> at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff
>
>
> > 


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Re: G4 Mini with Chime of Death

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:

>
>
> On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:32 AM, aussieshepsrock wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I have g4 mini 1.2ghz, 1gig, 40 gig  that is now presenting with a
>> loud screech instead of the nice startup chime. It sends no signal to
>> the monitor, isn't attempting to boot, and is unresponsive to any
>> keyboard commands, and the lights in the keyboard don't light (caps
>> lock, num lock, etc). Attempted to start with all connections at rear
>> removed, but just got screeching 'chime of death' - no difference at
>> all.
>
> Is the screech sound a head crash of the harddrive? sound like a
> needle on a record player being dragged across an old vinyl record?
>

What Bill said, the noise of a HD read head grinding it's way through  
the platter is loud and unforgettable.

A system dropped hard enough to fubar the DVD drive, is probably  
enough to damage the drive.

The no memory error is a short sound like breaking glass. Possibly the  
memory's been knocked loose?

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Re: 2 More Questions

[dc]

Most G4s (except the Mirror Drive Door model) work well with PC133,
512 MB, low-density RAM, which you can visually identify because it
has 16 chips, 8 on the front and 8 on the back. Non-sync (non-ECC) is
generally better. If you're not sure try one stick in your G4 and see
what Apple System Profiler has to say about it.

On Aug 11, 11:11 pm, Stephen Conrad  wrote:
> LGS
> GM 72 V1682 1CT10K
> 9751G KOREA
>
> Source for my info:http://www.idhw.com/textual/guide/noin_ram_chip_lg.html
>
> So, using this site I am going to say my two RAM boards are 512M
>
> Would they work in a G4?
>
> Also, I have a board with 16 chips per side.
> Each chip has this on it: Siemens HYB39S16400T-10
> It is placed like this:
>
> Siemens
> HYB39S16400T-10
> FRANCE                    ^-9730 is here going from bottom to top
>
> What is this used for?
>
> --
> Steve Conrad
> Henrietta, MO 64036
>
> "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
> to go forth and claim our place in outer space."
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Re: Adobe - PPC support

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

>
> So the rumor is that OSX 10.6 WILL support PPC but Adobe apps will  
> NOT?

No the rumor from June 2008 that someone breathlessly posted a year  
later said that; which was based on very early development versions of  
10.6 that didn't have the PPC code stripped yet.
>
> Of what good is that?

None whatsoever. However, the day that Adobe started selling Universal  
versions of their apps was the day that Apple started selling a  
helluva lot more Mac Pros and Macbook Pros. I know a number of self- 
employed freelance graphics artists, and most all of them have  
switched over to Intels for their main work machines. They're all  
keeping the G5's, as render and video conversion boxes mostly, to do  
final output.

More than one of them have said it's liberating to switch to such a  
faster system.

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Re: G4 MDD 887 Graphics

[dc]

On Aug 13, 3:14 pm, Wayne Garrett  wrote:
> Does anyone know what the best graphics card for the above machine.
> Also where to get one for reasonable?

You can select a compatible card using this guide:
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility
It may not be the "best" but an affordable, reliable card with QE and
CI support is the GeForce 5500. For some of the cards you'd end up
spending almost as much as the Mac is worth. As for a "reasonable"
price, if you can find a flashable pc version you'll save about 50%
off the Mac edition price.
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Re: G4 Mini with Chime of Death

[Bill Connelly]

On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:32 AM, aussieshepsrock wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I have g4 mini 1.2ghz, 1gig, 40 gig  that is now presenting with a
> loud screech instead of the nice startup chime. It sends no signal to
> the monitor, isn't attempting to boot, and is unresponsive to any
> keyboard commands, and the lights in the keyboard don't light (caps
> lock, num lock, etc). Attempted to start with all connections at rear
> removed, but just got screeching 'chime of death' - no difference at
> all.

Is the screech sound a head crash of the harddrive? sound like a  
needle on a record player being dragged across an old vinyl record?

Maybe replacing the hard drive containing a clone of another OS X  
installation would get you going.

Just guessing here.

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G4 Mini with Chime of Death

[aussieshepsrock]

Hello,
I have g4 mini 1.2ghz, 1gig, 40 gig  that is now presenting with a
loud screech instead of the nice startup chime. It sends no signal to
the monitor, isn't attempting to boot, and is unresponsive to any
keyboard commands, and the lights in the keyboard don't light (caps
lock, num lock, etc). Attempted to start with all connections at rear
removed, but just got screeching 'chime of death' - no difference at
all.

I suspect the mini may have been damaged in trip to girlfriends home
for it and me to stay for awhile. It  was flaky upon setup and still
flaky when booting from a recent 'superduper' backup. (was freezing up
once boot sequence and launch software finished loading). Shutting off
yahoo messenger launching at login stabilized that problem, but the
mini became quite flaky attempting to configure to access the home
wifi and I decided to go for a nuke and pave of internal drive with a
fresh tiger install.

Tiger install was ruined when drive read head impacted dvd and left a
substantial donut of scratches on it after a clumsy accident by me
almost knocked drive to floor - it was dangling though.

Mini did boot from my clone and was working for a few minutes off the
clone, but after attempting to restart from a cold shutdown an hour
later, all I get is chime of death screeching.

What do I do?

I posted to mini list, but only advice so far was to have install dvd
polished - but if mini is just screeching and not attempting to boot,
I could even purchase a ten pack of install dvd's (and in my opinion)
I'd just have a nice matched set of coasters. :-)

I haven't heard this sound since I was in college and putzing with a
Mac II I found at a garage sale.

I suspect and 'think' the physical hardware of my mini is busted
somehow.

I am outside my realm of technical knowledge and experience here - the
mini doesn't seem to be interacting with any of the ports because the
monitor isn't responding in any fashion during attempt to turn mini on
and the usb wired keyboard isn't receiving power or signal of any kind
(caps lock light isn't lighting when attempted).

Richard
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Re: [G3-5]Re: Adobe - PPC support

[MaGioZal]

On 8/13/09 8:12 PM, Bruce Johnson at  wrote:

> Player and reader have a longer support 'tail' than authoring
> software, for example, you can still get OS 9 versions of flash
> player. Very OLD versions, mind you, since they long since stopped
> developing them, and many features no longer work.


But virtually Mac OS 9 is "Flashless", since of most Flash files of today
aren't compatible with version 7, the last released to this operating
system.
 




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Re: NewerTech v2.5 & 1.5TB SATA Seagates

[Bill Connelly]

Since on sale, and being a Seagate, I went on and purchased the 1.5TB  
sata ST315005N1A1AS-RK, and it functions in the NewerTech v2.5 case.

Took about 12 hours to Erase with Zeroing to format into 1 partition  
of 1.36 TB (1,500,301,910,016 Bytes).

As 1 partition of 1.5TB, and with different partitioning schemes of 2  
(1000,397) (698.63,698.63) QuickBench gives R/W of about 38 / 36 MB/sec.

I'm guessing this speed is due to the Firewire 400Mb/s  boundary?

Know of any other tests I could perform, to illustrate any issues with  
efficiency due to a partition being greater than 1TB (current claim by  
NewerTech's Tech Staff at OWC, is they recommend partitioning with at  
least 2 partitions (1TB, .5TB) for this particular enclosure).

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Re: Adobe - PPC support

[Peter]

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Mark  wrote:
>
> Adobe has announced their authoring software will no longer support  
> PPC
> in future versions.
> no biggie.
> Anybody know about Flash, Acrobat Reader, etc - the plug in/players &
> future PPC support ?
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> So the rumor is that OSX 10.6 WILL support PPC but Adobe apps will  
> NOT?
>
> Of what good is that?
>
> Serious work requires serious apps.
>
> No, open source is not the option that most pros would choose.
>

I doubt it that 10.6 will support PPC. Steve Jobs stated very clear by  
the presentation of 10.5 that "the next OS X release will be Intel  
only".
There is no reason for Apple to change that.

Peter M.



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