Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
Yes I bought two of these fans and neither one of them works. They are the same voltage as the other fan, and the other fan still works. -Jonas On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:57 PM, John Carmonne wrote: One thing about the new fangled millimeters is the require batteries so be sure it is working before you test the MDD. If you turn on the meter and set it to ohms And cross the leads...Resistance should go to zero. then you will see action on the meter. Then set the meter to DCv 5 up volts and check. Prolly want to stick to 20V since the fans are 12V iirc. :-) Also there are a lots of tutes on the web for this: http://www.ladyada.net/learn/multimeter/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Thanks bruce! I may just figure this thing out yet! Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cam question
On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I am trying to use my DXG-308 digital camera as a webcam Under the setting PC it says PC Camera but when I set it to this it doesn't seem to work as a webcam. What am I doing wrong? Macam and Image Captire don't seem to work with it this way (Image Capture does let me download pics from the cam though). As a general rule if Macam doesn't support it and the device does not have a native Mac driver you're SOL. I got one of these http://www.huehd.com/ for $19 at Woot one time, it comes with Mac drivers in the box. Once I understood it's limitations, I've been happy with it: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/hue.html At one time Wal-mart was selling it for $20-$24 or so; but it looks like it appeared on Oprah and the price has gone up :-/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
Could there be anything written into the firmware or something, not letting the system power any other fan besides the stock one that apple ships with? -Jonas On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I had no problem getting mine (Silenx) to work, just that it wouldn't cool enough. Jeff On Jan 5, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes I bought two of these fans and neither one of them works. They are the same voltage as the other fan, and the other fan still works. -Jonas On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:57 PM, John Carmonne wrote: One thing about the new fangled millimeters is the require batteries so be sure it is working before you test the MDD. If you turn on the meter and set it to ohms And cross the leads...Resistance should go to zero. then you will see action on the meter. Then set the meter to DCv 5 up volts and check. Prolly want to stick to 20V since the fans are 12V iirc. :-) Also there are a lots of tutes on the web for this: http://www.ladyada.net/learn/multimeter/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Thanks bruce! I may just figure this thing out yet! Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
Online Netflix is also an idea. It requires an intel mac though. -Jonas On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:30 PM, brettallica br...@nisene.com wrote: Have you tried (or considered trying) Hulu? Many current television programs can be watched on that site for free. You can also download/ stream TV shows from the iTunes Store via iTunes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Could there be anything written into the firmware or something, not letting the system power any other fan besides the stock one that apple ships with? The fan isn't that smart...the only I/O is the 12V power. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cam question
On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I am beginning to think that Macam doesn't support quite a few cameras. Yes, which is why you should check their list *before* spending money on a camera... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
Jeffrey Engle wrote: I've been looking at some cheap KVM switches on ebay, will they work? or do I need a mac compatible version $$$? Jeff There are no Mac compatible versions. For the most part they should be platform independent. One that I have has a single button that switches between computers. It is a little weird in that sometimes it skips one computer but the next pass around it selects it. The other one does have a slight platform dependency. It uses the keyboard to switch between computers. By default it uses a key on the keyboard that isn't on Mac keyboards. But there is a key sequence you can send that changes the activation key. Both of these switch the VGA and USB. I also have some mechanical switches that only switch the VGA. I have had a problem with these where the video suffers some degradation due to the wiring in the switch and the actual switch. On the electronic switches I haven't seen any signal degradation. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cam question
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.eduwrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I am beginning to think that Macam doesn't support quite a few cameras. Yes, which is why you should check their list *before* spending money on a camera.. I got the camera at Goodwill for basically nothing. It is a good camera and I use it often. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
Curious, does the kvm require that the mouse (wired) be plugged into it directly? or can it be plugged into the keyboard as usual. Jeff On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Jeffrey Engle wrote: I've been looking at some cheap KVM switches on ebay, will they work? or do I need a mac compatible version $$$? Jeff There are no Mac compatible versions. For the most part they should be platform independent. One that I have has a single button that switches between computers. It is a little weird in that sometimes it skips one computer but the next pass around it selects it. The other one does have a slight platform dependency. It uses the keyboard to switch between computers. By default it uses a key on the keyboard that isn't on Mac keyboards. But there is a key sequence you can send that changes the activation key. Both of these switch the VGA and USB. I also have some mechanical switches that only switch the VGA. I have had a problem with these where the video suffers some degradation due to the wiring in the switch and the actual switch. On the electronic switches I haven't seen any signal degradation. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
It should work just fine that way. I don't think there's anything special about the mouse port; heck, you can probably plug the keyboard into the mouse port and it would still work just fine. I believe they're labeled just to make it easy...but yeah, since the keyboard doubles as a USB hub, there shouldn't be an issue. On Jan 5, 1:33 pm, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Curious, does the kvm require that the mouse (wired) be plugged into it directly? or can it be plugged into the keyboard as usual. Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
On 05/01/10 3:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at some cheap KVM switches on ebay, will they work? or do I need a mac compatible version $$$? Jeff If it doesn't require any software to switch between computers then it should work. I have seen one or two switches that included software to switch between computers, but most of them don't require any software at all. I'm using a 4 port USB KVM switch right now from Trendnet that has buttons on the KVM switch (model TK-407). I've got an IBM P4, my trusty old BW and my cheese grater G5. Knock on wood, it works flawlessly. Previous to this I had an I/O Gear 2 port USB KVM switch. You had to use the keyboard to switch computers. It worked okay, but sometimes it would drop the connection and I would have to fiddle with the connections on the back of the computers to get it connected again. I seem to prefer the ones with the switch buttons on the switch itself. Also regarding your later question about whether the mouse needed to be attached to the switch, on the I/O Gear KVM switch you had to connect the mouse to the switch or it wouldn't work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BW powers up, but no sound and no video
On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: The hard disk is the original (!) Quantum Firebird EX 12 GB from 1998/99. For it's more than ten years it still works amazingly well. I made an image of its contents using an external USB drive enclosure just to be on the safe side. (Doesn't support S.M.A.R.T. at all.) This is because USB does not support S.M.A.R.T. If you plug it into a working computer with an internal IDE bus it will work. Anyway, unplugging the machine, opening it, removing the PRAM battery, press and hold the button nearest the battery (the one not labeled :POWER:) This got my G3 BW running just fine. Mine is a 400MHz rev.2 btw... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Online Netflix is also an idea. It requires an intel mac though. -Jonas Erm, its a flash site that shouldn't require anything other then a computer that can display flash video... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
I didn't mean the fans firmware, I meant the MDD's firmware. -Jonas On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.eduwrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Could there be anything written into the firmware or something, not letting the system power any other fan besides the stock one that apple ships with? The fan isn't that smart...the only I/O is the 12V power. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean the fans firmware, I meant the MDD's firmware. -Jonas :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Yes, I'm sure Bruce knew that is what you meant. What I believe he was trying to say is that there is no possible way that the firmware on any computer could identify a particular type of fan. Possibly it could differentiate between generic types of fans i.e. those with a speed sensor versus those without. But even if it could, why would anyone bother? It's not a difference that's worth the cost of the code to detect it IMO. Even if you outsource them, programmer's ain't THAT cheap. (I hope ...) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mic question
System: G4 Quicksilver OS X 10.4.11 What kind of Mic does this machine need? It seems that the one I have is the wrong one No idea what model but it looks like a Wand and the plug had a pic of an old Mic on it I think, if I tried the right place, the plug is too big -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Online Netflix is also an idea. It requires an intel mac though. Erm, its a flash site that shouldn't require anything other then a computer that can display flash video... Last time I looked ... which admittedly was a few months ago ... Netflix instant video (or whatever they call it) required either Microsoft's Silverlight v3 on a Windows or Mac computer or use of a Netflix ready device such as Tivo, Xbox 360, Playstation 3, et alia http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices Hulu uses flash. Perhaps that is what you were thinking of? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
Irrational John is correct. Non-Intel Macs cannot display the Netflix online viewing. Believe me, I've been there/done that. Silverlight needs an Intel cpu to run (or even install, if I remember correctly). On Jan 5, 3:03 pm, John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com wrote: Last time I looked ... which admittedly was a few months ago ... Netflix instant video (or whatever they call it) required either Microsoft's Silverlight v3 on a Windows or Mac computer or use of a Netflix ready device such as Tivo, Xbox 360, Playstation 3, et aliahttp://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices Hulu uses flash. Perhaps that is what you were thinking of? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:49 PM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean the fans firmware, I meant the MDD's firmware. -Jonas :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Yes, I'm sure Bruce knew that is what you meant. What I believe he was trying to say is that there is no possible way that the firmware on any computer could identify a particular type of fan. Possibly it could differentiate between generic types of fans i.e. those with a speed sensor versus those without. But even if it could, why would anyone bother? It's not a difference that's worth the cost of the code to detect it IMO. Even if you outsource them, programmer's ain't THAT cheap. (I hope ...) What is the voltage to the fan?? I'll open mine and check what I have for juice if it will help you get yours going. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:31 PM, John Carmonne wrote: What is the voltage to the fan?? I'll open mine and check what I have for juice if it will help you get yours going. Also, what is the amperage or wattage of the fans in question...perhaps the silenx fan needs more current than the MDD is providing, even if the voltage is correct. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:31 PM, John Carmonne wrote: What is the voltage to the fan?? I'll open mine and check what I have for juice if it will help you get yours going. Also, what is the amperage or wattage of the fans in question...perhaps the silenx fan needs more current than the MDD is providing, even if the voltage is correct. Good point I just had to up tick a adapter on a router that needed 1.5 amp and I kept failing with a 300ma even though the pilot light reported. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
Jeffrey Engle wrote: Curious, does the kvm require that the mouse (wired) be plugged into it directly? or can it be plugged into the keyboard as usual. Jeff The simple, button controlled switch just needs to have a connection to the USB port on at least one running computer. It uses this to power the switch. It doesn't matter whether there is any mice or keyboards plugged in to it. The other one, the one that uses the keyboard to switch ports doesn't care about the mouse, it can be plugged into the keyboard the port on the switch or into the computer directly. It does require that the keyboard be plugged into a specific port on the switch. On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Jeffrey Engle wrote: I've been looking at some cheap KVM switches on ebay, will they work? or do I need a mac compatible version $$$? Jeff There are no Mac compatible versions. For the most part they should be platform independent. One that I have has a single button that switches between computers. It is a little weird in that sometimes it skips one computer but the next pass around it selects it. The other one does have a slight platform dependency. It uses the keyboard to switch between computers. By default it uses a key on the keyboard that isn't on Mac keyboards. But there is a key sequence you can send that changes the activation key. Both of these switch the VGA and USB. I also have some mechanical switches that only switch the VGA. I have had a problem with these where the video suffers some degradation due to the wiring in the switch and the actual switch. On the electronic switches I haven't seen any signal degradation. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Online Netflix is also an idea. It requires an intel mac though. -Jonas Erm, its a flash site that shouldn't require anything other then a computer that can display flash video... No it's not. Netflix uses Microsoft's Silverlight which is a competitor to Flash, so to speak. MS hasn't released a Silverlight that runs on PPC. There is Moonlight / Mono which is supposed to provide Silverlight support for Linux but it doesn't work with Netflix. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will any usb/vga KVM switch work?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Jeffrey Engle wrote: Curious, does the kvm require that the mouse (wired) be plugged into it directly? or can it be plugged into the keyboard as usual. Jeff The simple, button controlled switch just needs to have a connection to the USB port on at least one running computer. It uses this to power the switch. It doesn't matter whether there is any mice or keyboards plugged in to it. The other one, the one that uses the keyboard to switch ports doesn't care about the mouse, it can be plugged into the keyboard the port on the switch or into the computer directly. It does require that the keyboard be plugged into a specific port on the switch. On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Jeffrey Engle wrote: I've been looking at some cheap KVM switches on ebay, will they work? or do I need a mac compatible version $$$? Jeff There are no Mac compatible versions. For the most part they should be platform independent. One that I have has a single button that switches between computers. It is a little weird in that sometimes it skips one computer but the next pass around it selects it. The other one does have a slight platform dependency. It uses the keyboard to switch between computers. By default it uses a key on the keyboard that isn't on Mac keyboards. But there is a key sequence you can send that changes the activation key. Both of these switch the VGA and USB. I also have some mechanical switches that only switch the VGA. I have had a problem with these where the video suffers some degradation due to the wiring in the switch and the actual switch. On the electronic switches I haven't seen any signal degradation. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway Thanks for all the feedback!, I bought one from Mr. Stierman and I'm excited to see how it works! Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: why is this MDD overheating?
On Dec 31, 2009, at 5:37 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: why is this MDD overheating? Date:Mittwoch 30 Dezember 2009N From:Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Ok, before I begin, here's the specs. Dual 1.25 MDD 2gb ram, 200gb, leopard 10.5.8 Last night I pulled the power supply and cleaned it like I've done a couple times before and reinstalled it. Only this time, the main fan, which I figured I'd clean too while I was at it, accidentally got put in backwards (yes, I did that..) well, obviously it didn't take but about 4 minutes to overheat and smell like burnt plastic and shut down (sleep mode).. then I forced a shut down and opened the machine to find the fan in wrong. Well, here's where it gets interesting... I flipped the fan around, and powered it up, starts off fine, normal fan noise (rpm) then as I watch, istat is telling me a slow increase... it's climbing, climbing... past 150f... fan kicks up another notch .. 160f sounds like the fan is full throttle at this point... this is with very little or no load on the CPU (itunes, mail) then I power down, and figured I'd put a fresh application of thermal grease on the processors. still the same problem/result? how do I get this back down to 130f-140f where it was? what possible damage could I have done to this poor MDD? your turn... thanks in advance. Jeff I had got a heavily used MDD Dual 1.0 GHz and found that the fans where at a very high speed all the time. Working with the MDD was possible and I never had shut-downs. Only in summer, when the ambient temperature was higher, the MDD would suddenly put itself out at heavier workloads, I'm certain due to overtemperature of the processors. I then replaced the thermal compound between the processor and the heat sink. And this was the solution. The fans suddenly where at lower speeds all the time, and the processor core temperatures where lower. How old is the thermal compound on your processors? Maybe you should replace it. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 Well after all is said and done, I found out what was making the ol' mdd overheat... that's what happens when the fan doesn't turn. That really nasty smell was the fan cooking, literally. So now thanks to fellow lemmers, I have the fans that I need... that's if I didn't cook something else in the process:-) Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
This is kinda getting off topic. I have a Sawtooth G4 with an upgraded owc chip in it. I just downloaded the hulu desktop for Intel chips and it is functional on my G4. I wonder what gives. I am running Leopard 10.5.8 On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Online Netflix is also an idea. It requires an intel mac though. -Jonas Erm, its a flash site that shouldn't require anything other then a computer that can display flash video... No it's not. Netflix uses Microsoft's Silverlight which is a competitor to Flash, so to speak. MS hasn't released a Silverlight that runs on PPC. There is Moonlight / Mono which is supposed to provide Silverlight support for Linux but it doesn't work with Netflix. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote: This is kinda getting off topic. I have a Sawtooth G4 with an upgraded owc chip in it. I just downloaded the hulu desktop for Intel chips and it is functional on my G4. I wonder what gives. I am running Leopard 10.5.8 Actually this is right on topic :D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
I'll have to give it a try on my dual 1ghz MDD. I would assume it would work, considering web-browser Hulu works fine. On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote: This is kinda getting off topic. I have a Sawtooth G4 with an upgraded owc chip in it. I just downloaded the hulu desktop for Intel chips and it is functional on my G4. I wonder what gives. I am running Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: anybody used this silenx fan 120mm in your MDD?
What is the voltage to the fan?? I'll open mine and check what I have for juice if it will help you get yours going. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA My dual 1.0GHz MDD has a Delta AFB1212SHE main fan -120x120x38 mm, 151.85 CFM @ 3700 RPM, 53.0 dBA, 12.60 watts, 1.05 amps, 12v DC. http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/deaf12suhisp.html Because the MDD series ran pretty hot, I wouldn't run anything that pumps out less air than this even if it is at the expense of being louder. Yeah I know , they run LOUD already but I'd rather have a noisy working computer than one that isn't running at all because it overheated and blew a CPU ( like mine did a while back ! ) or a motherboard. They are also pretty hard on video cards as well. You could install Chud Tools and enable Nap mode to throttle back the CPU's except when they need to run at full tilt. This lowers temperatures considerably. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5978131 Installing a copper heatsink or one of the thin finned aluminium jobs helps lower these temps a few degrees too. I'm about to install a Radeon 9800 XT and am thinking of boring a hole in the top of mine and installing a 90mm fan to help remove excess heat as well. Stewie _ A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive cable charges and alternates?
That is fantastic! I wonder if there are certain hardware minimums to ensure a smooth playback when using G4 Macs. I did find this article, for those interested in doing this: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/3707/mac-os-x-install-silverlight-2-on-non-intel-systems-ie-powerpc-or-osx86-installs/ At this time, though, I use Windows-based computers (two Dells, and an XBOX 360) to stream Netflix to my HDTV, so I won't really have any use for this trick, at least for now. Nice find regardless! On Jan 5, 7:43 pm, Ricardo Sevilla ae86dr...@gmail.com wrote: Yup I had just tried it. Although I did not wait to see if the app crashed or hung up, I did check to see if it actually opened up and displayed audio and video. And it did!!! On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: I'll have to give it a try on my dual 1ghz MDD. I would assume it would work, considering web-browser Hulu works fine. You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Time machine or CCC?
Thought of something... anybody know if time machine and CCC can run at the same time? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Time machine or CCC?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Thought of something... anybody know if time machine and CCC can run at the same time? Jeff -- Yes John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
