date:20101130

...then I changed my mind again.

You CAN put a mobo from a 15 G4 iMac in a 17 G4 iMac!

Unfortunately, the 17 has problems with the screen ironically. Anyway
thought I'd let people know that it is possible.

-Jonas

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 Thanks for the input, but I've decided it's to much work. I'm going to sell
 it as it is.

 Thanks!
 -Jonas


 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2010/11/24 19:48, Jonas Ulrich so eloquently wrote:

 I have a working 800mhz 15 iMac g4, and a
 broken 17 g4 iMac. Would it be possible to put the 17 screen on the
 15 iMac?


 Even if this is possible I would be concerned about the counterweight in
 the base. Is the 15 notably lighter than the 17?

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Re: more than a flag?

2010-11-30 Thread Po-en Tsai

You can set a rule in the Mail Preferences to set a color for mail arriving 
from a specific address.

Cheers
On 29/11/2010, at 5:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 In Apple mail.app, is there a way to color mail received so that it makes 
 it easy to find? flagging works but I'm limited to that and that alone? any 
 ideas?  mail.app add-ons maybe? Jeff
 
 Jeff Engle
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Re: Old Mac never die.

I'm a little late to the conversation, but that GigE should be a great
machine for some time yet! When it gets to old I would look into getting a
Hackintosh. They are amazing machines, and dirt cheap.

I'm currently using the following hardware:

Dell Optiplex GX270 2.8GHZ w/ 2GB ram (4GB max) runs Leopard great. Only
paid $30 for the whole machine.

Dell Latitude 110L. 1.6GHZ w/768MB ram (1.12GB Max) runs leopard well enough
for the small amount of ram it has. Only paid $100 for the machine.

Both are cheap, yet capable machines. Imagine the capabilities of a Core 2
Duo, or Quad core.

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Re: more than a flag?

2010-11-30 Thread Erik Harperink


Op 29-nov-2010, om 5:41 heeft Jeffrey Engle het volgende geschreven:

In Apple mail.app, is there a way to color mail received so that  
it makes it easy to find? flagging works but I'm limited to that  
and that alone? any ideas?  mail.app add-ons maybe? Jeff


Jeff Engle
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Hi Jeff,

There is a possibility to color mail. I took a quick look in the Help  
file. Go to Mail - Preferences - Rules and insert a new rule to  
change the background color of the message or a color tag. You don't  
need any add-ons I guess. Everything you need is already there.


Erik


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terminal

2010-11-30 Thread Norm Rowe



  
  
When I open terminal I get "precess completed", what's up with this?
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install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread Peter Martin

 can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4?

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Re: Dead Dead Drive

2010-11-30 Thread John Carmonne



On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Gottick International wrote:


Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5
20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine.  The
cables look ok. What can I do now to locate the problem?

Anders



Are you sure the power cable is connected correctly. It's easy to  
miss the slot on them, I found that on my G5 PM recently.


Which of the two cables to the drive is the power cable?

A

The larger one is the power cable however it's just as easy to  
misconnect both. Look real close also I've damaged the cables by  
pulling them the wrong way.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 867




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Re: Putting 17 screen on a 15 g4 iMac?

Thanks for the input, but I've decided it's to much work. I'm going to sell
it as it is.

Thanks!
-Jonas

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2010/11/24 19:48, Jonas Ulrich so eloquently wrote:

 I have a working 800mhz 15 iMac g4, and a
 broken 17 g4 iMac. Would it be possible to put the 17 screen on the
 15 iMac?


 Even if this is possible I would be concerned about the counterweight in
 the base. Is the 15 notably lighter than the 17?

 Tina

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Re: Word list Generator???

2010-11-30 Thread Jonas Lopez

I would like a generator to take Englosh and convert it to Pig Pen and allow me 
to print it since it takes forever to do it by hand. Anyone know of a program 
to do this.

JML



  

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Quicksilver Freezes during software update

Here's the specs of the machine:

867MHZ G4 Processor
1GB (256 + 256+ 512)
80GB Hard drive
Original DVDRW SuperDrive
Airport Card
Fresh install of Leopard 10.5.4

The facts:
Passed Rember ram test
Passed Quick and Extended AHT tests.

The problem:

I haven't used the computer a lot, but this only seems to happen during
software update. I get the update, and click restart, it hangs for a moment,
then installs and restarts. After that it freezes up. The mouse moves, but
nothing else will respond. After a hard restart you can run the software
update, get other updates, and it will freeze up somewhere along the way.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Re: Quicksilver Freezes during software update



On Nov 30, 2010, at 2:44 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:


Passed Rember ram test


Did you rotate the RAM and re-Rember until all inside slotted RAM  
sticks have been tested (sandwich technique ... takes awhile)?


Blow the dust out of the slots?

Fresh battery?

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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread daniel . stewart743

Yes.  I am running 10.5 on a 933MHz QS Power Mac.


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Subject: install osx 10.5

 can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4?

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Re: how do i stop these emails?


On 2010/11/29 21:21, Chance Reecher so eloquently wrote:

I think it used to be, but the Unsubscribe link is no longer in the
signature. You have to go to the For more options link now to
unsubscribe.


Exactly.

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Re: install osx 10.5


On 2010/11/29 06:41, Peter Martin so eloquently wrote:

can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4?


Yes, the official minimum is 867 MHz.

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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread Peter Martin

Thank you.And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the same
machine?


2010/11/30 Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com

 On 2010/11/29 06:41, Peter Martin so eloquently wrote:

 can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4?


 Yes, the official minimum is 867 MHz.

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Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different

2010-11-30 Thread Jeff Bequette



On Nov 29, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Dan wrote:


At 5:23 PM -0700 11/29/2010, Tina K. wrote:

On 2010/11/29 16:07, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:

You left off:

The really, truly final Directors 20th anniversary Redux cut with
all the crap we originally left on the cutting room floor jammed  
back

in no matter how disjointed it makes the final product, just because
it was cool having Martin Sheen visit a bunch of demented french
colonialists on a plantation in the middle of the Vietnam War.


And after that they'll make the Stripped down, nitty gritty, meat  
'n potatoes version. All the sex and violence without those pesky  
plots. Ideal for people who have already stretched themselves too  
thin.


Wait!  Don't forget the opposite - the sterilized/pablum versions  
for sale at special places like Wal-Mart.


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Re: how do i stop these emails?


At 5:08 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote:

Header ?   WHAT HEADER???

I don't think that I've turned off anything in the header 
department, and the only thing 'headers' controls is the normal 
'E-Mail' information.


*shrug*

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Re: more than a flag?


On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:

 
 What? Of course you can make folders in Mail. You can also set rules to move 
 mail into folders based on a lot of different criterion.
 
 
 All I can find is new mailboxes (mail 3.6) and I can't make sub boxes.

There should be a 'location' dropdown in the New Mailbox dialog. I'm using Mail 
4, it's been a lng time since I used an earlier version of Mail.

Possibly you have to select the mailbox you wish to subfolder and then select 
new Mailbox from the menu.

All else fails create the new mailbox then drag it into the folder you want.

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Re: terminal


On Nov 29, 2010, at 5:50 AM, Norm Rowe wrote:

 When I open terminal I get precess completed, what's up with this?
 Norm


That's odd. Do you get the command prompt? That message is usually what you get 
when you exit form a terminal session and don't close the window.

Check in Terminal Preferences  General in the Startup section, see if the 
'Shells open with' selection is set to default login shell or is set to some 
other command.

Also look in the Settings section of the prefs, there's a place to run a 
command on startup there as well. See if something's set in that window too.

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Re: install osx 10.5



On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Peter Martin wrote:

Thank you.And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the  
same

machine?


Just about any PCI USB2.0 card. I had an IOGear one in my G4 worked  
like a charm.




I'm using an IOGear GIC251U 5-port USB 2 PCI card I got from  
owcomputing.com in my Yikes! and the same card from buy.com in my  
Digital Audio Dual 533. Tiger is on my Yikes! and Leopard is on  my DA.


Both cats are happy ...

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Re: Word list Generator???


On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

 I would like a generator to take Englosh and convert it to Pig Pen and allow 
 me to print it since it takes forever to do it by hand. Anyone know of a 
 program to do this.

Pig Pen?

The only ref I find in a cursory Google search is 'pigpen' or Masonic cipher.

Here's a site that does it:

http://www.purplehell.com/riddletools/pigpen.htm

Or you can just get the font...one of many...type your message, select all, 
change the font, voila`.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Font-Utils/BabelStone-Pigpen-.shtml

Pr possibly you mean Pig Latin?

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html



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Re: how do i stop these emails?

2010-11-30 Thread Charles Davis


Hi Dan;

You must have some different settings, possibly at your 'google'  
profile.
That is  why I left the 'footers' included in my reply. The 7, I THINK  
(dangerous,I know) I have seen at some time, but never as a regular  
thing.


Chuck D.


On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Dan wrote:


At 5:08 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote:

Header ?   WHAT HEADER???

I don't think that I've turned off anything in the header  
department, and the only thing 'headers' controls is the normal 'E- 
Mail' information.


*shrug*

EVERY email sent by Google Groups contains these seven List-  
headers:


 Mailing-list: list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com; contact 
g3-5-list+own...@googlegroups.com
 List-ID: g3-5-list.googlegroups.com
 List-Post: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/post? 
hl=en_US, mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 List-Help: http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US, mailto:g3-5-list+h...@googlegroups.com 


 List-Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en_US
 List-Subscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/subscribe?hl=en_US 
, mailto:g3-5-list+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 List-Unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/subscribe?hl=en_US 
,

mailto:g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

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Re: how do i stop these emails?

2010-11-30 Thread joe duran



On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Dan wrote:


At 5:08 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote:

Header ?   WHAT HEADER???

I don't think that I've turned off anything in the header  
department, and the only thing 'headers' controls is the normal 'E- 
Mail' information.


*shrug*

EVERY email sent by Google Groups contains these seven List-  
headers:




Dan is right, every email does include those headers.  To see them  
though you have to go into Mail Preferences and change the header  
viewing option from default to long or custom headers. The default is  
to not show the long headers.

Joe

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Re: how do i stop these emails?

2010-11-30 Thread Charles Davis

Ahh!, problem located.

I went to View / Message/ selected Long Headers, and there they
are (along with MUCH rarely needed routing information). Since I leave
that set for short headers normally, those lines aren't seen.

Chuck D.

On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Charles Davis wrote:

Hi Dan;

You must have some different settings, possibly at your 'google'
profile.
That is why I left the 'footers' included in my reply. The 7, I
THINK (dangerous,I know) I have seen at some time, but never as a
regular thing.

Chuck D.

On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Dan wrote:

At 5:08 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote:

Header ? WHAT HEADER???

I don't think that I've turned off anything in the header
department, and the only thing 'headers' controls is the normal 'E-
Mail' information.

*shrug*

EVERY email sent by Google Groups contains these seven List-
headers:

Mailing-list: list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com; contact
g3-5-list+own...@googlegroups.com
List-ID: g3-5-list.googlegroups.com
List-Post: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/post?
hl=en_US, mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
List-Help: http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US, mailto:g3-5-list+h...@googlegroups.com

List-Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en_US
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Re: how do i stop these emails?


At 11:48 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote:

You must have some different settings, possibly at your 'google' profile.
That is  why I left the 'footers' included in my reply. The 7, I 
THINK (dangerous,I know) I have seen at some time, but never as a 
regular thing.


They're in EVERY message.  They're not footers.  They're headers. 
The appear below the stack of Received headers and just before the 
message BODY.  (yea, I know, some services remove the headers and 
append them onto the mail message; I think AOL did this).  It's quite 
possible that YOUR client is set to not display them.


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Re: Word list Generator???

2010-11-30 Thread Gary D.

Maybe the original poster was thinking of a concordance (look it
up). Quite useful for translators to know when find and replace is
worthwhile. Google has 23 million hits. If you can't find anything
useful, let me know off-line. I can give you a reference or a program.

Hope this helps.

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how do i stop these emails its been a year now!!

2010-11-30 Thread AJ

I did the proper unsubscribe from the list. I also notified that I would like 
to be removed  and still I keep getting the emails from the group. I would like 
my email  inbox to be less crowded and I no longer care to subscribe to any of 
the emails or communication from this group but it continues.
Other than sending a certified letter to Dan how can I stop all the emails from 
the group? It is even overrunning the spam filter on yahoo.
If there is anyone with any influence at all can you please remove me from the 
mailings? You cant simply go to remove me from the list. I did that and 
according to the list I am no longer a member but I still get all the emails.  
HELP




  

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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread Peter Martin

Thank you all very much.

2010/11/30 Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net


 On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


 On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Peter Martin wrote:

  Thank you.And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the same
 machine?


 Just about any PCI USB2.0 card. I had an IOGear one in my G4 worked like a
 charm.


 I'm using an IOGear GIC251U 5-port USB 2 PCI card I got from
 owcomputing.com in my Yikes! and the same card from buy.com in my Digital
 Audio Dual 533. Tiger is on my Yikes! and Leopard is on  my DA.

 Both cats are happy ...


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Re: how do i stop these emails its been a year now!!

2010-11-30 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:28 PM, AJ aja...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I did the proper unsubscribe from the list. I also notified that I would
 like to be removed  and still I keep getting the emails from the group. I
 would like my email  inbox to be less crowded and I no longer care to
 subscribe to any of the emails or communication from this group but it
 continues.



If you were on Gmail I would say just make a filter. They work great.

Yahoo mail however has less reliable filtering.

I suppose you should just keep unsubscribing until it  takes. Try both
links in any list mail you get.



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G4 is dead, and not sure what to do.

2010-11-30 Thread macdaddy4life

We have been blowing the circuits in my house, and every time my mac
has been on that circuit. It was doing fine, and I would just restart
it every time the circuit blew, but came home one day to find that it
would not turn on. The power button on the monitor and the tower both
light up, but I get nothing else. I have reset the ram, but that has
not worked. I have not checked the CMOS battery, and not really
convinced that that is the problem. I could be wrong. I'm not
extremely knowledgeable in this area, although I am gaining rather
quickly. I'm hoping I can resurrect this little baby, and maybe do
some upgrades on it. It's still a stock 733 MHz processor, with at
least 256 mb ram and an 80 harddrive. Any ideas on how to fix it?
Eventually wanting to do an overhaul on this system and upgrade the
USB, processor, MoBo, video card, CD drive, and all that! I want a mac
that will last me a long time!

Thank you for all your help, and hope to be a part of this wonderful
group!

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Re: G4 is dead, and not sure what to do.


On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:46 AM, macdaddy4life wrote:

 We have been blowing the circuits in my house, and every time my mac
 has been on that circuit. It was doing fine, and I would just restart
 it every time the circuit blew, but came home one day to find that it
 would not turn on. 

If the lights come on but nothing happens it's likely that the logic board got 
fried at some point, especially if it's been subjected to that kind of abuse.

Circuit breakers are THERE FOR A REASON! If you're blowing circuits in your 
house, you are overloading your wiring. At some point the breaker will not blow 
and the odds are very good that you WILL have an electrical fire inside your 
walls. 

Whether it goes out by itself or burns your house down is a matter of luck.

Find and fix what's causing the electrical problems, then worry about the mac.

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College of Pharmacy
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Re: wacky mouse movements

2010-11-30 Thread John Callahan

I had the same problem and some kind person on the list informed me  
that the solution is to use the mouse on a sort of rough surface,  
like the back of a mouse pad. Worked like a charm, hope it works for  
you. This is a great list!

On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:56 PM, rumble wrote:


i've got a g4 mdd dual 1.25 running 10.4.11.

most of the time i get erratic mouse movements and it's hard to zero
in on one spot to click on a button or place the cursor down on a
spot, etc.

i've tried about 3 different usb optical mice on it.

has anyone ever come across this or a fix for it?

thanks

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Re: G4 is dead, and not sure what to do.

2010-11-30 Thread macdaddy4life

That would be my parents problem ... they know that there is something
wrong with the wiring in the house. I'm just trying to find out what
is wrong with the mac so I can fix it and prevent it from happening
again.

On Nov 30, 10:07 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:46 AM, macdaddy4life wrote:

  We have been blowing the circuits in my house, and every time my mac
  has been on that circuit. It was doing fine, and I would just restart
  it every time the circuit blew, but came home one day to find that it
  would not turn on.

 If the lights come on but nothing happens it's likely that the logic board 
 got fried at some point, especially if it's been subjected to that kind of 
 abuse.

 Circuit breakers are THERE FOR A REASON! If you're blowing circuits in your 
 house, you are overloading your wiring. At some point the breaker will not 
 blow and the odds are very good that you WILL have an electrical fire inside 
 your walls.

 Whether it goes out by itself or burns your house down is a matter of luck.

 Find and fix what's causing the electrical problems, then worry about the mac.

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Re: how do i stop these emails its been a year now!!

2010-11-30 Thread Jack Dean Stauss


Moi aussi

Jane, get me off of this crazy thing!!!


On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:28 AM, AJ wrote:

I did the proper unsubscribe from the list. I also notified that I  
would like to be removed  and still I keep getting the emails from  
the group. I would like my email  inbox to be less crowded and I no  
longer care to subscribe to any of the emails or communication from  
this group but it continues.
Other than sending a certified letter to Dan how can I stop all the  
emails from the group? It is even overrunning the spam filter on  
yahoo.
If there is anyone with any influence at all can you please remove  
me from the mailings? You cant simply go to remove me from the list.  
I did that and according to the list I am no longer a member but I  
still get all the emails.  HELP







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Re: how do i stop these emails?

2010-11-30 Thread James Therrault



On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Dan wrote:


At 11:48 AM -0500 11/30/2010, Charles Davis wrote:
You must have some different settings, possibly at your 'google'  
profile.
That is  why I left the 'footers' included in my reply. The 7, I  
THINK (dangerous,I know) I have seen at some time, but never as a  
regular thing.


They're in EVERY message.  They're not footers.  They're headers.  
The appear below the stack of Received headers and just before the  
message BODY.  (yea, I know, some services remove the headers and  
append them onto the mail message; I think AOL did this).  It's  
quite possible that YOUR client is set to not display them.




I have the default version of Mail installed and this is what I see  
as far as headers go:



From:dantear...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: how do i stop these emails?
Date: November 30, 2010 10:56:38 AM GMT-06:00
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com


To see more there is a setting in Mail by selecting: View/Message/ 
All Headers.


JT



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Re: install osx 10.5


On 2010/11/30 06:51, Peter Martin so eloquently wrote:

And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the same machine?


That's a subject that was just recently discussed in some detail, but
I don't remember the name of the thread. Perhaps a search of the group 
at googlegroups would reveal it. I believe there is a particular 
standard or chipset or something that ensures compatibility.


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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread JoeTaxpayer

Just make sure it's really 2.0.
I commented maybe a month back and was given good advice how to be
sure. These cards that work are still only $10 or so.

A thought - If you buy 10.5 full price, ($75?) there may be some Dual
1.25GHz MDDs (is your's dual?) with 2GB memory and the card for $150
or so.
When you break down the value in those machines, it's pretty crazy.
The memory alone would cost $100 to buy.

On Nov 30, 8:51 am, Peter Martin petermartin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you.And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the same
 machine?

 2010/11/30 Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com

  On 2010/11/29 06:41, Peter Martin so eloquently wrote:

  can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4?

  Yes, the official minimum is 867 MHz.

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Re: G4 is dead, and not sure what to do.


On 2010/11/30 11:13, macdaddy4life so eloquently wrote:

That would be my parents problem ... they know that there is something
wrong with the wiring in the house. I'm just trying to find out what
is wrong with the mac so I can fix it and prevent it from happening
again.


Invest in a quality surge protector/battery back-up/power 'conditioner.' 
I prefer something that you can connect to a true earth ground but I 
doubt they offer that in a consumer grade UPS.


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Re: Quicksilver Freezes during software update


At 11:44 PM -0800 11/29/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

[867-MHz Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver), OX 10.5.4]
[1 GB RAM, 80 GB HD, SuperDrive, Airport]

Passed Rember ram test
Passed Quick and Extended AHT tests.

I haven't used the computer a lot, but this only seems to happen 
during software update. I get the update, and click restart, it 
hangs for a moment, then installs and restarts. After that it 
freezes up. The mouse moves, but nothing else will respond. After a 
hard restart you can run the software update, get other updates, and 
it will freeze up somewhere along the way.


How much free space on that HD?

Run a Verify Disk pass with Disk Utility.  If there are any errors, fix them.

Check the system.log for error messages.

Boot into Safe Mode (shift key held down), run the Combo updater, and 
see if that performs better.


- Dan.
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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread Lawrence David Eden


Yes.  I am running 10.5 on a 933MHz QS Power Mac.




Are you satisfied with the performance of 10.5 vs 10.4?

I have a Snakebite Dual 500 G4.  Would 10.5 improve the speed of my 
Mac or slow me down?


Larry

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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread Kris Tilford


On Nov 30, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:


Would 10.5 improve the speed of my Mac or slow me down?


It'll slow you down about 20%. It's the same on all PPC Macs running  
10.5. I personally believe it's some type of planned obsolescence by  
Apple, after all, Leopard 10.5 made Intel Macs faster, while making  
PPC Macs slower. The same goes for iOS on the iPhones, iOS 4 makes  
iPhone 3's  3g's slower, but makes iPhone 4's faster. There must be  
some way they manipulate the OS to run slower on old hardware.


If you look in the XBench archives for dual-500 Gigabit, you'll see  
that the highest scores were all with Tiger 10.4 at about 30,  
(absolute high 30.97 by taka2), while best Leopard 10.5 score is 23.98  
by G4DP500, so it's more than 20% slower for Leopard. I'd stick with  
Tiger.


http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=227538
http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=420842
http://db.xbench.com/comparesubindex.xhtml?machineTypeID=21sort=scoreminVersion=1.3 



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Re: how do i stop these emails its been a year now!!

2010-11-30 Thread J.M.P.Hissel

On 30-11-2010 18:28, AJ, aja...@yahoo.com, wrote:

 I did the proper unsubscribe from the list. I also notified that I would like
 to be removed  and still I keep getting the emails from the group. I would
 like my email  inbox to be less crowded and I no longer care to subscribe to
 any of the emails or communication from this group but it continues.
 Other than sending a certified letter to Dan how can I stop all the emails
 from the group? It is even overrunning the spam filter on yahoo.
 If there is anyone with any influence at all can you please remove me from the
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 according to the list I am no longer a member but I still get all the emails.
 HELP

Did you try to unsubscribe from the SAME e-mailaddress as you
insubsubsribed???

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M-Audio


On 2010/11/30 13:51, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:
 my M-Audio 2496 PCI card isn't still up to date with Leopard. M-Audio
 stopped at Tiger.

I think I'm done with M-Audio. The drivers for my Revolution 5.1 are 
junk - it forgets settings, I always have to manually mute the 
headphones, I get buzzing and crackling in the audio, and the Right 
channel drops periodically necessitating a reboot.


They claim the driver is 10.5 compatible but I wouldn't agree.

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Re: M-Audio



On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Tina K. wrote:


On 2010/11/30 13:51, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:
 my M-Audio 2496 PCI card isn't still up to date with Leopard. M- 
Audio

 stopped at Tiger.

I think I'm done with M-Audio. The drivers for my Revolution 5.1 are  
junk - it forgets settings, I always have to manually mute the  
headphones, I get buzzing and crackling in the audio, and the Right  
channel drops periodically necessitating a reboot.


They claim the driver is 10.5 compatible but I wouldn't agree.

Tina



Have you tried things under Tiger? Using the Tiger drivers. I know its  
frustrating dealing with them ... I've been cussing for years now  
about the M-Audio2496 ... folks at Sweetwater suggested 10.4.11. M- 
Audio (AVID ... the nice logo folks) keep telling us it works under  
Leopard ... not true.


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Re: install osx 10.5


On 2010/11/30 13:06, Lawrence David Eden so eloquently wrote:

Are you satisfied with the performance of 10.5 vs 10.4?


There isn't a day that goes by that I don't wish that I could go back to 
Tiger. Sure I love quick view, and I like the dictionary shortcut 
(cursor over word, control+command+D), and I have to admit that internet 
sharing is far less painful in Leopard than in Tiger, but the baggage 
that comes with it makes it too much effort. Safe boots after every 
failed logout/restart/shut down, followed by an 'unsafe' boot; KPs, app 
crashes (Finder and Mail.app are the worst offenders), and other things 
that I prefer not to think about very often.


Bleh now I'm depressed lol.

Tina

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Re: M-Audio


On 2010/11/30 15:18, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:

Have you tried things under Tiger? Using the Tiger drivers. I know its
frustrating dealing with them ... I've been cussing for years now about
the M-Audio2496 ... folks at Sweetwater suggested 10.4.11. M-Audio (AVID
... the nice logo folks) keep telling us it works under Leopard ... not
true.


Yes I have tried it under Tiger, sort of. If you go to M-Audio's site 
the 10.4 driver is beta, the final being marked for 10.5. It wasn't 
until I installed Leopard and the 'final' driver that I found out it was 
actually for 10.4 AND 10.5, they just mismarked it. So I never got to 
try the 'final' driver with Tiger.


A few months back I got a survey from M-Audio about what new products 
they should make. It was returned to them with every free form space 
marked FIX THE GOSH DARN DRIVERS! Of course that's never going to happen…


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Question about Quicksilver

2010-11-30 Thread Stephen Conrad

Twice in one day my G4 Quicksilver shut down
The first time Console showed me nothing.
This time I got this

Nov 30 16:21:45 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: USBF: 721.937
AppleUSBOHCI[0x240b800]::Found
a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 25, timing out!

I see the USB part but I stopped using the 2 bad USB ports on my one Hub and
prior to this I had run the machine for over a week with no problems.
Disk Utility shows nothing wrong with either of my 2 HDs or my USB drives

Also, any ideas where I can get a DC5V power cord for a USB 4-Port Hub?
It is a Belkin Model F5U014-OE
So far Radio (Rat) Shack and Walmart are a bust for a power cord with
changeable tips (Walmart sells them for use in your car's cigarette lighter
though)

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Re: install osx 10.5

2010-11-30 Thread Amanda Ward

I'm running Leopard on a Sawtooth with a 1.6 GHz G4 from OWC, with 1 GB ram, 
runs great! (Not a great as it did on my Intel iMac, but really good)
Have Leo on my 733MHz DA, with 1 GB ram. Runs okay... a bit slow, but okay. 
Mostly use the DA for network storage and burning videos.

@

On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

 Yes.  I am running 10.5 on a 933MHz QS Power Mac.
 
 
 
 Are you satisfied with the performance of 10.5 vs 10.4?
 
 I have a Snakebite Dual 500 G4.  Would 10.5 improve the speed of my Mac or 
 slow me down?
 
 Larry
 
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Re: Word list Generator???

2010-11-30 Thread glen





- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
 
  I would like a  generator to take Englosh and convert it to Pig Pen and 
  allow 
me to print it  since it takes forever to do it by hand. Anyone know of a 
program to do  this.
 
 Pig Pen?
 
 The only ref I find in a cursory Google search is  'pigpen' or Masonic cipher.
 
 Here's a site that does  it:
 
 http://www.purplehell.com/riddletools/pigpen.htm
 
 Or  you can just get the font...one of many...type your message, select all, 
change  the font,  voila`.
 
 http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Font-Utils/BabelStone-Pigpen-.shtml
 
 Pr  possibly you mean Pig  Latin?
 
 http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html
 


I suspect Pig Latin, probably just a slip we old timers do from time to time.

But then maybe the Grateful Dead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8B_YY327Pk

Pig Pen was a sorely missed band member. -- glen


  

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Re: M-Audio



On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Tina K. wrote:


On 2010/11/30 15:18, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:
Have you tried things under Tiger? Using the Tiger drivers. I know  
its
frustrating dealing with them ... I've been cussing for years now  
about
the M-Audio2496 ... folks at Sweetwater suggested 10.4.11. M-Audio  
(AVID
... the nice logo folks) keep telling us it works under Leopard ...  
not

true.


Yes I have tried it under Tiger, sort of. If you go to M-Audio's  
site the 10.4 driver is beta, the final being marked for 10.5. It  
wasn't until I installed Leopard and the 'final' driver that I found  
out it was actually for 10.4 AND 10.5, they just mismarked it. So I  
never got to try the 'final' driver with Tiger.


A few months back I got a survey from M-Audio about what new  
products they should make. It was returned to them with every free  
form space marked FIX THE GOSH DARN DRIVERS! Of course that's never  
going to happen…




It's my understanding that Delta_OSX_2.0.8.dmg is for 10.4.11 for my  
card. They say its for 10.5, but it isn't. The Uninstall doesn't even  
work. I had to do that manually.


Don't know about your driver download.

Nice you used control with the language. I had to practice restraint  
as well.


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Re: install osx 10.5


On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Tina K. wrote:

 Safe boots after every failed logout/restart/shut down, followed by an 
 'unsafe' boot; KPs, app crashes (Finder and Mail.app are the worst 
 offenders), and other things that I prefer not to think about very often.

This is absolutely NOT the norm. I've NEVER had to do that; I cannot REMEMBER 
the last time my Finder or Mail crashed (even on my PPC laptop, certainly not 
on my Intel desktop).

Run Applejack/Memtest to deep-clean your system and check your RAM...I'm 
betting you've got bad RAM in there somewhere.

I use three sometimes four Macs on a daily basis, which generally have very 
long uptimes (just got a system update so my current uptime is only 6 days); my 
laptop is pretty much never rebooted; I just sleep it as needed, and I NEVER 
have app crashes.

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Re: Question about Quicksilver


On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 
 Also, any ideas where I can get a DC5V power cord for a USB 4-Port Hub?
 It is a Belkin Model F5U014-OE
 So far Radio (Rat) Shack and Walmart are a bust for a power cord with
 changeable tips (Walmart sells them for use in your car's cigarette lighter
 though)

Check yard sales for wall-warts; I've always been able to find what I need 
after hitting a few. I always pay  $1, usually no more than 25 cents.

Also Belkin will (for a price) sell you one of 'em...

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Re: M-Audio

2010-11-30 Thread TVirkkala


The latest edition ...

A few months back I got a survey from M-Audio about what new  
products they should make. It was returned to them with every free  
form space marked FIX THE GOSH DARN DRIVERS! Of course that's never  
going to happen…


of ProTools reversed course and allowed use of their software without  
hardware attached. A first for all flavors of Pro Tools (I use M- 
Powered 8, which works with my M-Audio Fast Track Ulta).


It looks like things may be changing in the Pro Tools/M-Audio world.

Timo V
 PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 /
Power Macintosh 5500/Macintosh SE/30/Macintosh Classic





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Re: M-Audio

2010-11-30 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar


On 11/30/10 2:58 PM, TVirkkala wrote:

The latest edition ...


A few months back I got a survey from M-Audio about what new products
they should make. It was returned to them with every free form space
marked FIX THE GOSH DARN DRIVERS! Of course that's never going to happen…


of ProTools reversed course and allowed use of their software without
hardware attached. A first for all flavors of Pro Tools (I use M-Powered
8, which works with my M-Audio Fast Track Ulta).

It looks like things may be changing in the Pro Tools/M-Audio world.

Timo V
 PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 /
Power Macintosh 5500 / Macintosh SE/30 / Macintosh Classic



Strange, I installed the 8.0.0 ProTools LE that came with my MBox2, and 
it won't run unless the Mbox2 is connected. It also trashed my Snow 
Leopard, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The ReadMe said to 
disable a whole host of useful services in order for it to run. I did 
just download the 8.04 update, but haven't had a chance to install it. 
Only a 1.7 GB (groan!) download. But I'll give it a whirl since it 
sounds like they fixed lots of stuff.


I had a 2496 for a while in my G4 under Tiger and moved it to a G5 
running 10.4.11. It caused all manners of grief, crashes, lockups, and 
not waking up from Sleep. I finally sold it to a windoze sucked on 
fleabay. Don't ask me why I bought the Mbox2. I'm on an Intel Mac now.


Stephen

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Re: Question about Quicksilver

2010-11-30 Thread Kris Tilford


On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

Nov 30 16:21:45 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: USBF: 
721.937AppleUSBOHCI[0x240b800]::Found a transaction which hasn't  
moved in 5 seconds on bus 25, timing out!


You should be aware that OHCI is USB 1.1, and you can increase you  
transfer speeds by a factor of 20x or so by purchasing a cheap USB 2.0  
PCI card.


Also, any ideas where I can get a DC5V power cord for a USB 4-Port  
Hub?


From Belkin website FAQ for F5U014-oe: It should come with a power  
supply. If the power supply was misplaced or lost you can use any  
power supply that is 5 Volts DC, 2.5 Amps and has a polarity of Center- 
pin-positive.


Note, the general rule of thumb is a maximum of 500mA per device, so  
you can multiply the # of ports by 500mA (.5A) each, and add a little  
for safety just-in-case. I assume your hub has 4 ports, so 4x500mA =  
2A minimum, and they recommend 2.5A, so that's right.



It is a Belkin Model F5U014-OE


It appears this is a USB 1.1 device, so you'd also need a new USB 2.0  
hub for higher speed operation. You can get USB 2.0 hubs practically  
free sometimes, I've seen goofy things made in China for a couple  
bucks. These are probably without external power availability, but  
they work for anything with its own power supply, as well as all low  
power devices.




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Re: Question about Quicksilver

2010-11-30 Thread Baldassare Guzzo

looking for the same one.   Found something much cheaper then Radio  
Overpriced Shack on Amazon for $10



On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


Twice in one day my G4 Quicksilver shut down
The first time Console showed me nothing.
This time I got this

Nov 30 16:21:45 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: USBF:	721.937	 
AppleUSBOHCI[0x240b800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in  
5 seconds on bus 25, timing out!


I see the USB part but I stopped using the 2 bad USB ports on my  
one Hub and prior to this I had run the machine for over a week  
with no problems.
Disk Utility shows nothing wrong with either of my 2 HDs or my USB  
drives


Also, any ideas where I can get a DC5V power cord for a USB 4-Port  
Hub?

It is a Belkin Model F5U014-OE
So far Radio (Rat) Shack and Walmart are a bust for a power cord  
with changeable tips (Walmart sells them for use in your car's  
cigarette lighter though)


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Re: Question about Quicksilver


At 4:42 PM -0600 11/30/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote:

Twice in one day my G4 Quicksilver shut down

Nov 30 16:21:45 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: USBF:	721.937 
	AppleUSBOHCI[0x240b800]::Found a transaction which hasn't 
moved in 5 seconds on bus 25, timing out!


I see the USB part but I stopped using the 2 bad USB ports on my one 
Hub and prior to this I had run the machine for over a week with no 
problems.


Disconnect that hub.  Stop using it -- then see if the machine still 
has the problem.


USB Hubs rarely have any sort of electrical protection *between* 
ports.  If one port has gone bad (probably shorted) then at the 
minimum you now have a power leak, and if the power is leaking onto 
the wrong lines...  Not good.  Hubs are unintelligent connectors - 
like an electrical octopus.  You wouldn't continue to use an octopus 
with a burned socket, would you?


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Re: Quicksilver Freezes during software update

Thanks for the tips so far! I will try rotating the ram and running
the test again. I will blow the dust out of all the slots, and boot in
safe mode to run the update again. I will also run disk utility, and
check the pram battery

The hard drive has plenty of free space, it's am 80gb drive.

I will report back when I get home and try these ideas.

Thanks!!!
-Jonas

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Re: install osx 10.5


On 2010/11/30 16:40, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:

On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Tina K. wrote:


Safe boots after every failed logout/restart/shut down, followed
by an 'unsafe' boot; KPs, app crashes (Finder and Mail.app are
the worst offenders), and other things that I prefer not to think
about very often.

This is absolutely NOT the norm. I've NEVER had to do that; I cannot
REMEMBER the last time my Finder or Mail crashed (even on my PPC
laptop, certainly not on my Intel desktop).

Run Applejack/Memtest to deep-clean your system and check your
RAM...I'm betting you've got bad RAM in there somewhere.

I use three sometimes four Macs on a daily basis, which generally
have very long uptimes (just got a system update so my current uptime
is only 6 days); my laptop is pretty much never rebooted; I just
sleep it as needed, and I NEVER have app crashes.


I've had the same problems on all three of my Macs, and all three 
behaved very well under Tiger. I do run Applejack monthly in both manual 
and deep clean modes, and I have run memtest on all three with no 
problems reported. So I've learned to live with it, knowing that safe 
boots would temporarily stop the failed logout cycle is a big help 
(thanks again to whomever told me about this).


Tina

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Applejack

Speaking of Applejack, does anyone know how to get it to clean user 
caches and check user prefs when the user folder is on a different 
drive? I've tried entering the user name, user number, and file path but 
it won't accept any of them. I asked on the Applejack forum, and 
submitted a bug report, with no response to either.


I can clean/check them with MainMenu or Onyx, but it would be easier to 
do it with Applejack since I run it anyway.


TIA,
Tina

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Re: M-Audio


On 2010/11/30 16:28, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:

It's my understanding that Delta_OSX_2.0.8.dmg is for 10.4.11 for my
card. They say its for 10.5, but it isn't. The Uninstall doesn't even
work. I had to do that manually.


Shocking I tell you!


Nice you used control with the language. I had to practice restraint as
well.


I think that's a function of age, but don't tell anyone. ;-)

Tina

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Re: M-Audio