Re: New G4 user - many questions
Hi Greg, I also think 10.4.11 is the best OS to use on this Mac, as long as you don’t need stuff included in Leopard of course. It’s certainly the fastest. RAM: it seems to have 512+128. I really recommend buying at least one more 512. But be careful: many modules offered are so-called high- density, meaning they don’t work in the G4s. In general, using PC hardware in Macs can be tricky, as you have noticed. Re. audio: It’s true, the Digital Audio doesn’t have any mike input! You’ll need a USB mike or some kind of hardware adapter. I have no experience with audio, but a search for powermac midi brought up a 2006 forum post where an interesting-looking card was offered (for 43$ used, incl. shipping): M-Audio Audiophile 2496 (24bit/96khz) PCI sound card with 1 midi in and 1 midi out, digital in/out, rca analog in/out. Compatible with G4/ G5 Powermacs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound along with very jumpy video. My G4 MDD 1.25 is 100 % better than the Cube. Can this be a Bus speed issue the Cube is 100 and the MDD is 167. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New G4 user - many questions
After some more time of thinking about it, I'm considering going with a really crazy solution and using 9.2.3 on the machine + Logic 6.4.3 + Pro Tools Free (if I can find it) + Finale 2003. Way outdated software but it's more than enough for our needs, and won't require any more hardware to be purchased (SB Live has OS9 drivers from what I understand, 640mb RAM should be enough too) Does OS 9, or any of the three tools I mentioned, support both processors in the dual 533 G4? If not I'll definitely go Tiger. On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Geke wrote: Hi Greg, I also think 10.4.11 is the best OS to use on this Mac, as long as you don’t need stuff included in Leopard of course. It’s certainly the fastest. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PPC kext repository?
There seems to be a lot of Intel kext development going on in the hackintosh community. Does anyone know of *any* open source or other public domain or publicly available kext PPC development? If drive source code is available how difficult it PPC kext development? I am mostly thinking about drivers for PCI cards: via chipset USB card, multiport NIC cards, SATA/PATA cards, and WiFi cards. There are a lot of inexpensive PCI components coming out now but still most are not supported on my G4. Seems if drivers could be ported it would extend the usefulness of the machines. Does anyone have a repository of PPC kexts? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
At 11:24 AM -0800 1/2/2011, John Carmonne wrote: I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound along with very jumpy video. My G4 MDD 1.25 is 100 % better than the Cube. Can this be a Bus speed issue the Cube is 100 and the MDD is 167. OS? Flash vers? iChat vers? Details count! What else is running? Have you tried clearing caches and such? What speed is your network connection? Is it running at said speed or ? Why do you think some bus speed is involved? Playing video is very CPU intensive, not memory or i/o intensive. Do YouTube vids clean up if you add fmt=5 to the end of the url? Try Yahoo! Messenger's video. Is it smooth? Are you having playing other videos? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Couple of G4 dig. Audio Issues
Greetings all, I hope these are a couple of easy issues. I gave a G4 Dig. Audio to a mac newbie, and he has been having a couple of questions. Here is a quote from his latest response: Hey, Thanks for the reply and happy new year as well. I looked into the locking issue. I found that if you press option+apple+q it will lock the screen, but i noticed that it will close all aplications. Is there a way to change that and to change the keyboard buttons pressed to lock screen? and the videos are all youtube and they are loaded on the youtube site from firefox. During and after buffering video seems to jump around still. Thanks (end quote) Item 1 - Apparently, he wants to replicate the lock screen action found on Windows (I believe it is the MS key plus l - I really am not sure what that does except maybe do a quick screen blank which requires password entry upon wakeup) - short of logging out or invoking the screen saver, I was not aware of such an action on OS X (his unit is on 10.4.11). His report on command-option-q is above, but I cannot replicate it on my Tiger iBook. Any thoughts? Item 2 - The popular You Tube stuttering issue - again, he is using Fire Fox (latest flavor I presume) in OS 10.4.11 on a 733MHz Dig. Audio, which is equipped w/ 1.5 Gb RAM and a 64 Mb NVidia TwinView video card pulled from a 800MHz DP QuickSilver. I seem to remember some 3rd party add-ons for FF that addressed helping this issue. Any thoughts on this? (BTW, I did install Perian on the unit before giving it to him). Thank you for any thoughts, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New G4 user - many questions
On Jan 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Greg Kennedy wrote: After some more time of thinking about it, I'm considering going with a really crazy solution and using 9.2.3 on the machine + Logic 6.4.3 + Pro Tools Free (if I can find it) + Finale 2003. Way outdated software but it's more than enough for our needs, and won't require any more hardware to be purchased (SB Live has OS9 drivers from what I understand, 640mb RAM should be enough too) Does OS 9, or any of the three tools I mentioned, support both processors in the dual 533 G4? If not I'll definitely go Tiger. That machine will run OS 9.2.2 in fine fashion, very fast. however you may need a special ROM to boot OS9 on that PowerMac G4. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:24 AM -0800 1/2/2011, John Carmonne wrote: I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound along with very jumpy video. My G4 MDD 1.25 is 100 % better than the Cube. Can this be a Bus speed issue the Cube is 100 and the MDD is 167. OS? Flash vers? iChat vers? Details count! OS 10.5.8, iChat 4.0.8, What else is running? Nothing not even Mail Have you tried clearing caches and such? To the max What speed is your network connection? Is it running at said speed or ? 3 GB's per second Time Warner RoadRunner turbo Talladega Fast Why do you think some bus speed is involved? Playing video is very CPU intensive, not memory or i/o intensive. My MDD 1.25 and Cube have the exact same CCC'd system so I thought because the Cube Bus is 100 and the MDD is 167 this is the only difference in the machines the Cubes video card is GeForce 3. Also one of My TiBooks 867 is 133 bus and iChat is better than the Cube but not as good as the G4 MDD or the G5 PowerMac so the faster processors only seem to do well on the faster Bus for the streaming AV? Do YouTube vids clean up if you add fmt=5 to the end of the url? Try Yahoo! Messenger's video. Is it smooth? Are you having playing other videos? DVD's play perfect. The iChat and Skype is all I'm bothered with. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
No Valid Packages Error ???
My father-in-law, George (94 years young), has this PPCG4 tower I guess you call it, running 10.4.11. It's quite slow (to my sensibility) and he regularly has things fail to open or other troublesome stuff that is frequently solved by re- booting, which of course he forgets to do. Anyway, I'm thinking Hey, why not repair permissions and see what happens. But, to my surprise, I get an error message informing me that First Aid Failed! Disk Utility stopped repairing permissions on HD because the following error: No Valid Packages I told George that he had no valid packages, and he agreed, but we'd still like to have his Mac run smoother. Suggestions appreciated. Happy New Year to all Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Valid Packages Error ???
On Jan 2, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I get an error message informing me that First Aid Failed! Disk Utility stopped repairing permissions on HD because the following error: No Valid Packages I told George that he had no valid packages, and he agreed, but we'd still like to have his Mac run smoother. Suggestions appreciated. Have him reboot holding the Shift key for a Safe boot. Then reboot again normally. This will rebuild all the System cache files and give him a fresh start. If you can't repair permissions, you might first Verify Disk and if Repair Permissions still fails after a Safe Boot, you might try reinstalling the 10.4.11 PPC Combo Update which will refresh all the updated System software without requiring a long and tedious full System reinstalltion. Repairing Permissions rarely does any good, whereas rebuilding the caches with a Safe Boot can often help a lot. Other helpful free OS X System utilities are Applejack or OnyX, but use them sparingly and only when there's a perceived problem. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. I have the the original disks that came with the iMac and also the Tiger install Cds. How do fix this so I can boot up in 9 and not break anything else??? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:01:51 PST, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. I have the the original disks that came with the iMac and also the Tiger install Cds. How do fix this so I can boot up in 9 and not break anything else??? Jane To boot into OS 9 I believe that it must have had OS 9 drivers installed on the hard drive when the drive was set up. If you go to the Start Up Disk in System Preferences, do you see OS 9 listed? Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. I have the the original disks that came with the iMac and also the Tiger install Cds. How do fix this so I can boot up in 9 and not break anything else??? Jane Have you tried to boot by selecting the OS9 folder in Start Up disk in system preferences while running Tiger? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. I have the the original disks that came with the iMac and also the Tiger install Cds. How do fix this so I can boot up in 9 and not break anything else??? Jane What model G4 iMac is it? Also what is the HDD size? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. This makes no sense. There is no floppy disc drive in any G4 iMac, and any external USB floppy disc drive works in OS X, not OS 9. This means you don't need to boot OS 9 to get the data you want, you simply must install the correct software for your external USB floppy drive and read the disc(s) from within OS X. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
