Re: hd
I thought something was a bit strange... I looked on Newegg the other day and couldn't believe what a 1TB hard drive would cost me! $150! I bought a 1TB a few months ago for around $50 shipped! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: router question
Many thanks to the mavens who offered great answers to my question. This Group is the best place to get answers quickly. Larry Eden Is ther a command of some kind that I can send to the router from the basementor must I continue to make that long walk to the garage? Log into the router's GUI interface using IP address 192.168.1.1 and then list the log, check it out, and, finally, issue the REBOOT command. This can be done from any computer on the Intranet side of the router, using your favorite browser. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hd
yep, they did and will continue high for new drives. flooding On Nov 26, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 with lots of goodies. I have an external enclosure that I want to add a sata drive to use as a back up. Did hard drive prices just jump up like 30% in the last month or is it my imagination? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hd
Well, SDDs are now price competitive a bit sooner than we'd like. Illirik Smirnov He's a phreak on a leash- 3-time winner: Keynesian beauty contest Proud member of the Enloe HS Debate Team: At Least Someone Placed Proudly Chaotic Neutral since 1997 PGP doesn't work as well as you think it does. If you would use it, just meet me face to face. Nonetheless, if this message is signed, my public key is in the MIT database under my name. On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote: I thought something was a bit strange... I looked on Newegg the other day and couldn't believe what a 1TB hard drive would cost me! $150! I bought a 1TB a few months ago for around $50 shipped! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hd
If you need a bare drive, just crack open an external. 1TB $79 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136469cm_sp=Cat_Hard_Drives-_-Weekend_Sale-_-22-136-469 2TB $99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136471cm_sp=Cat_Hard_Drives-_-Weekend_Sale-_-22-136-471 although the bare drives are something like 2008 prices Illirik Smirnov He's a phreak on a leash- 3-time winner: Keynesian beauty contest Proud member of the Enloe HS Debate Team: At Least Someone Placed Proudly Chaotic Neutral since 1997 PGP doesn't work as well as you think it does. If you would use it, just meet me face to face. Nonetheless, if this message is signed, my public key is in the MIT database under my name. On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: Well, SDDs are now price competitive a bit sooner than we'd like. Illirik Smirnov He's a phreak on a leash- 3-time winner: Keynesian beauty contest Proud member of the Enloe HS Debate Team: At Least Someone Placed Proudly Chaotic Neutral since 1997 PGP doesn't work as well as you think it does. If you would use it, just meet me face to face. Nonetheless, if this message is signed, my public key is in the MIT database under my name. On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote: I thought something was a bit strange... I looked on Newegg the other day and couldn't believe what a 1TB hard drive would cost me! $150! I bought a 1TB a few months ago for around $50 shipped! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hd
Thats what I thought. Think I will wait. On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I thought something was a bit strange... I looked on Newegg the other day and couldn't believe what a 1TB hard drive would cost me! $150! I bought a 1TB a few months ago for around $50 shipped! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: UPS
On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: The battery on my IBM Office Pro UPS needs to be replaced.or I need to buy a new UPS. Any suggestions from you about what to buy would be appreciated. Is it better to buy a new unit or a new battery? If it's got a door or hatch over the battery compartment, it's user replaceable (and even if not, it just takes care in disassembly. I kow APC upses have had user-replaceable batteries for over ten years now. Batterys of the kind used are generally available at places like Batteries Plus. take the old one in to the store to be sure you get the right one -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
Is there a way to use an old G5 power mac as an ethernet disk? just like you would use an ethernet attached hard drive? no monitor, keyboard or mouse.. I know I have to have an OS on it, but other than that, nothing it needs to be seen on the LAN as a ethernet disk??? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: UPS
Lo, At 15:01 27/11/2011, you wrote: On Nov 27, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: The battery on my IBM Office Pro UPS needs to be replaced.or I need to buy a new UPS. Any suggestions from you about what to buy would be appreciated. Is it better to buy a new unit or a new battery? If it's got a door or hatch over the battery compartment, it's user replaceable (and even if not, it just takes care in disassembly... I kow APC upses have had user-replaceable batteries for over ten years now. Batterys of the kind used are generally available at places like Batteries Plus. take the old one in to the store to be sure you get the right one I agree with the above. A good ups is expensive with APC the brand that is used in schools and colleges. They cost something like £250 in the UK and so are a one off purchase in which you purchase a new battery. I have a belkin which cost £100 but the battery is not user replaceable and i had to bend the metal cage the old battery was in to get it out. When this battery goes I will try and find the money for an APC. Longer term it makes more sense, martin N Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
On 11/27/11 10:19 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Is there a way to use an old G5 power mac as an ethernet disk? just like you would use an ethernet attached hard drive? no monitor, keyboard or mouse.. I know I have to have an OS on it, but other than that, nothing it needs to be seen on the LAN as a ethernet disk??? Well, simplest way is to export the drives over NFS, SMB, or AFP in OS X/X Server, then anything on the network can access it that can use one of those protocols. I have a MacPro that is pretty much essentially that - a NAS (network attached storage), hooked up over fibrechannel to a XServe RAID array. The macs on the network access its filesystems over AFP and SMB for the windows clients. Now, if you want to get creative or more complicated, you could in theory export partitions off the hard drive as iSCSI targets. Theres not much in the way of iscsi target software for the mac though. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1869065?start=0tstart=0 GlobalSAN has a initiator which is the client side of it. But, you need a target on the G5. Not for the faint of heart really. I've got a setup like this in service with a Linux box as the target. It was a bit of a hassle to get working right and does take a bit of UNIX knowledge to do it right. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Is there a way to use an old G5 power mac as an ethernet disk? just like you would use an ethernet attached hard drive? no monitor, keyboard or mouse.. I know I have to have an OS on it, but other than that, nothing it needs to be seen on the LAN as a ethernet disk??? The obvious solution is to run some version of OSX Server on it. Most commercial NAS devices are actually linux-based servers, so that's another possibility. Here's some links http://superuser.com/questions/124978/how-do-i-build-a-diy-nas -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
On Nov 27, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Is there a way to use an old G5 power mac as an ethernet disk? just like you would use an ethernet attached hard drive? no monitor, keyboard or mouse.. I know I have to have an OS on it, but other than that, nothing it needs to be seen on the LAN as a ethernet disk??? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 I do this between all my Macs using Ethernet to access 7 mountable 2TB drives on my G5 PPC Dual 2.7. You can boot over Ethernet with Apple Server software also. No monitor or keyboard needed. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: router question
On 2011/11/27 04:43, Lawrence David Eden so eloquently wrote: Many thanks to the mavens who offered great answers to my question. This Group is the best place to get answers quickly. And they're affordable too! Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: UPS
On 2011/11/27 08:01, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: Batterys of the kind used are generally available at places like Batteries Plus. Exactly what I was going to recommend. If the UPS is functional and the battery is accessible, there's not much point in getting a whole new UPS. Unless you need features or capacity that your current UPS does not have. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
Using a G5 PowerMac to provide access to just one external network drive is a huge waste of electricity. Get an external FireWire, or USB hard drive. On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:00 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote: On Nov 27, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Is there a way to use an old G5 power mac as an ethernet disk? just like you would use an ethernet attached hard drive? no monitor, keyboard or mouse.. I know I have to have an OS on it, but other than that, nothing it needs to be seen on the LAN as a ethernet disk??? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:55 PM, David W. Morris wrote: Using a G5 PowerMac to provide access to just one external network drive is a huge waste of electricity. Get an external FireWire, or USB hard drive. Agreed. A G5 would need server software, a RAID, plus some fairly heavy usage to justify the electricity in my opinion. They're not making Atom servers for no reason. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Hi John, Am chiming in after a bit of time for the holidays. Well, no luck; rebuilt permissions, swapped out slot, re-seated the card itself AND the host card as well. The make is probably some 3rd-party manufacturer that makes cards for everyone (it did come from China, home of about 99.5% of these little doohickies). Beyond that all I know is that it is a Broadcom BCM94312MCG mini-PCI-E wireless card. I don'yt know what I should know beyond that. Most disconcerting is to have a history of working Broadcom cards, with everyone under the sun saying that only Broadcom is recognized as an Airport card; apparently not all Broadcoms are created equal. Out of curiosity, what make is yours (since it does work?) Thanks, Dana On Nov 22, 10:38 pm, JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Nov 22, 2011, at 7:27 PM, DLC wrote: Hi John, Thanks for sharing - I do not get any recognition like that :-( -Dana Did you repair permissions. Can you give the make and model of the card? Also you may try a different slot. I did have to do that as I remember:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Greetings all, Just chiming in after the holidays to bring this up to date. My thanks to Kris for the information re: the hacked driver, and for Peter and John chiming in with salient info. Alas, nothing appears to help, and I am faced with the realization that apparently, not all Broadcoms are created equal, which is disconcerting because that just adds a deeper level of homework I need to do, still wanting/needing to get this unit on wireless. The host card appears to be working, just the mini-e wireless card itself is the culprit. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-BCM4321-WiFi-mini-PCI-e-N-Wireless-Card-/170732707129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27c0765d39#ht_1376wt_1350 Thanks again, Dana On Nov 22, 9:52 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:41 PM, DLC wrote: Hi John, Am chiming in after a bit of time for the holidays. Well, no luck; rebuilt permissions, swapped out slot, re-seated the card itself AND the host card as well. The make is probably some 3rd-party manufacturer that makes cards for everyone (it did come from China, home of about 99.5% of these little doohickies). Beyond that all I know is that it is a Broadcom BCM94312MCG mini-PCI-E wireless card. I don'yt know what I should know beyond that. Most disconcerting is to have a history of working Broadcom cards, with everyone under the sun saying that only Broadcom is recognized as an Airport card; apparently not all Broadcoms are created equal. Out of curiosity, what make is yours (since it does work?) Thanks, Dana I have a large install happening at the moment. When it's done I'll pull it out and give you that info. Did the company you got yours from say it works on your machine? Also do you have PCI e or PCI X slots.? I have run into cards that are the right specs to run AirPort but no cigar most of them are the Card Bus PIMCIA's for PB's. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:46 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, Just chiming in after the holidays to bring this up to date. My thanks to Kris for the information re: the hacked driver, and for Peter and John chiming in with salient info. Alas, nothing appears to help, and I am faced with the realization that apparently, not all Broadcoms are created equal, which is disconcerting because that just adds a deeper level of homework I need to do, still wanting/needing to get this unit on wireless. The host card appears to be working, just the mini-e wireless card itself is the culprit. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-BCM4321-WiFi-mini-PCI-e-N-Wireless-Card-/170732707129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27c0765d39#ht_1376wt_1350 Thanks again, Dana As I read that eBay listing the seller mentions a driver, Have you searched out a driver, this troubles me because these cards if they are for Mac they need no drivers. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
I'm almost certain that most all Broadcom cards can work, but a few are problematic. I've been trying to help, but you never post the necessary information. You say it doesn't work and that's about it. We know the card, but not any of the pertinent information. The most important things for troubleshooting a Broadcom wifi card would be: 1)VID PID # of the Broadcom wifi card itself. A specific Broadcom chipset can normally be determined from these ID #'s, which tells you which Braodcom kext is required. These ID's can be determined several ways. Sometimes they're shown in System Profiler. The Broadcom VID # is 0x14e4, and the PID is the important # you're looking for. In System Profiler is should be shown under NetworkAirport Card, or perhaps under PCI Cards. If it's not shown in System Profiler, you can use an application DPCIManager available here. The app is within the Build folder, use the specific version you need: http://rapidshare.com/files/380454157/DPCIManager_0.3.zip 2)Software version and configuration. This would be OS X version, and whether or not the correct kexts are currently loaded (meaning they are functional within OS X). The necessary kexts for wifi connection are IONetworkingFamily.kext, IO80211Family.kext, and a specific Broadcom kext that may vary with the exact hardware of the card itself. ALL THREE of these kexts need to be loaded to have wifi functionality. To see which kexts are loaded you can look in System Profiler under Extensions, or better you can run the command kextstat in Terminal, which will definitely show ALL kexts loaded, whereas System Profiler is known to miss some every so often. 3)Status of the Network System Preferences pane, and whether or not an Airport port is recognized within Network System Preferences. So far, I don't remember seeing any of this necessary information for you card? I still suspect your card will work, but that you need to troubleshoot a little more intensively. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:46 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, Just chiming in after the holidays to bring this up to date. My thanks to Kris for the information re: the hacked driver, and for Peter and John chiming in with salient info. Alas, nothing appears to help, and I am faced with the realization that apparently, not all Broadcoms are created equal, which is disconcerting because that just adds a deeper level of homework I need to do, still wanting/needing to get this unit on wireless. The host card appears to be working, just the mini-e wireless card itself is the culprit. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-BCM4321-WiFi-mini-PCI-e-N-Wireless-Card-/170732707129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27c0765d39#ht_1376wt_1350 Thanks again, Dana I think this is the card you need or the after market copy of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-G4-G5-Airport-Extreme-Wireless-network-Card-54M-/280587923128?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item415457eeb8 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 27, 2011, at 5:10 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: I think this is the card you need or the after market copy of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-G4-G5-Airport-Extreme-Wireless-network-Card-54M-/280587923128?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item415457eeb8 I thought the idea was for 802.11n? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Thank you Kris. This gives me some directions to look into - I'll repost when I have some of this needed info. for you. Many thanks, Dana On Nov 27, 6:41 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: I'm almost certain that most all Broadcom cards can work, but a few are problematic. I've been trying to help, but you never post the necessary information. You say it doesn't work and that's about it. We know the card, but not any of the pertinent information. The most important things for troubleshooting a Broadcom wifi card would be: 1)VID PID # of the Broadcom wifi card itself. A specific Broadcom chipset can normally be determined from these ID #'s, which tells you which Braodcom kext is required. These ID's can be determined several ways. Sometimes they're shown in System Profiler. The Broadcom VID # is 0x14e4, and the PID is the important # you're looking for. In System Profiler is should be shown under NetworkAirport Card, or perhaps under PCI Cards. If it's not shown in System Profiler, you can use an application DPCIManager available here. The app is within the Build folder, use the specific version you need: http://rapidshare.com/files/380454157/DPCIManager_0.3.zip 2)Software version and configuration. This would be OS X version, and whether or not the correct kexts are currently loaded (meaning they are functional within OS X). The necessary kexts for wifi connection are IONetworkingFamily.kext, IO80211Family.kext, and a specific Broadcom kext that may vary with the exact hardware of the card itself. ALL THREE of these kexts need to be loaded to have wifi functionality. To see which kexts are loaded you can look in System Profiler under Extensions, or better you can run the command kextstat in Terminal, which will definitely show ALL kexts loaded, whereas System Profiler is known to miss some every so often. 3)Status of the Network System Preferences pane, and whether or not an Airport port is recognized within Network System Preferences. So far, I don't remember seeing any of this necessary information for you card? I still suspect your card will work, but that you need to troubleshoot a little more intensively. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Hi John, Thank you for doing some sniffing for me. I checked this link. No, that is the card used in the earlier G5s - have used several of them. I discovered they would not work in the dual core/quad core-PCI-E G5s when I first appropriated this machine (needs that special Wifi/ Bluetooth Combo card made for this series, awfully rare to find and prohibitive in $$). Too bad! Sure would make my task easier! Dana On Nov 27, 6:10 pm, JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:46 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, Just chiming in after the holidays to bring this up to date. My thanks to Kris for the information re: the hacked driver, and for Peter and John chiming in with salient info. Alas, nothing appears to help, and I am faced with the realization that apparently, not all Broadcoms are created equal, which is disconcerting because that just adds a deeper level of homework I need to do, still wanting/needing to get this unit on wireless. The host card appears to be working, just the mini-e wireless card itself is the culprit. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-BCM4321-WiFi-mini-PCI-e-N-Wirel... Thanks again, Dana I think this is the card you need or the after market copy of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-G4-G5-Airport-Extreme-Wireless-network-... John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
I think this is the card you need or the after market copy of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-G4-G5-Airport-Extreme-Wireless-network-Card-54M-/280587923128?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item415457eeb8 Apple's cards are proprietary. While they may be based upon an otherwise open interface, they are not truly open. I thought the idea was for 802.11n? To get 802.11 a/b/g/n, a Broadcom 4322/94322 is used. This will also give you AirDrop. The much earlier 4311/94311 is 802.11 b/g only. Also, the mini PCI (but NOT mini PCI-e) 4318/94318 is also 802.11 b/g, only. I seems that for every Broadcom card which Apple has used, whether open or proprietary, Dell has used the same card in some of its machines. No foul as Apple has no patents that I am aware of on this kind of networking, yet Broadcom does. Is it any wonder that UCLA's college of engineering and applied math is (now) named for Broadcom's founder, not withstanding the facts that Broadcom is actually located close to UC-Irvine, in another county? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA_School_of_Engineering Money and market domination talks. True fact: I worked at the UCLA College of Engineering, as it was called back then, more than a DECADE before Henry Samueli would even enter the institution as an undergraduate student, much less an MS or PhD student, or even a founder of Broadcom. Back then, in 1963 and 1964, we were spending most of our resources on figuring out how to get men to the Moon and back safely, and I can tell you first-hand that those programs were over-subscribed by some of the best hardware and software engineers that this Nation has ever seen, or very likely WILL EVER SEE. Later, also YEARS before Henry Samueli, UCLA would create the first Internet Processor (IP) and send the first e-mail over what we now call the Internet to another institution. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 27, 2011, at 5:03 PM, DLC wrote: Wireless, anything (G or N), Kris. When I started looking for solutions, seemed like the only available items were all these mini- PCI-E cards, and all of them appeared to tout wireless-N, so, here I am. Would still prefer to pursue this solution rather than resort to a USB dongle (of which I also saw a bunch of them, too). Dana On Nov 27, 7:23 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Nov 27, 2011, at 5:10 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: I think this is the card you need or the after market copy of it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-G4-G5-Airport-Extreme-Wireless-network-... I thought the idea was for 802.11n? Well, another way is a USB N speed dongle they're real cheap and the driver software is simple to use. I use the same software on all the models. And it's real portable. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
External hard drive vs. online back up sites
I was watching Black Friday ads for an external 2tb drive for back ups. Offcie Max had a Seagate GoFlex 2tb for $75. But I was too late to get one. Then I started researching the Seagates online for prices. In my search, I came across terrible reviews for the Seagates. I remembered that there was a discussion on this list about them and it wasn't in their favor! So Seagate drives are off my list. 1. So, what brand would any of you suggest for an external drive? 2. I also have been looking at online backup sites, in addition to a physical back up. Carbonite looks good to me, but I am not familiar with the pros and cons of online. I would value your opinion. Jane PS A few months back I was banned from the LEM lists because my email address had been hacked. Some Moderators have allowed me back in, but not all. Who can I contact to rescind all the bannings? It isn't as if I intentionally let someone hack my account and to send out spam! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Upgrade question
I have a 2002 Quicksilver that I would like to upgrade so I can use Photoshop CS4. I have found an *Apple MPU 1.25 GHz Dual Processor, but I can't seem to find out if it will do the job. Any help would be greatly appreciated.* -- Later, Skyler Ah but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now Bob Dylan *With a Les Paul you just wind up sounding like someone else; with the Strat I finally sound like me. -Jeff Beck* -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade question
Il giorno 28-11-2011 4:14, Skyler Rudd ha scritto: I have a 2002 Quicksilver that I would like to upgrade so I can use Photoshop CS4. I have found an *Apple MPU 1.25 GHz Dual Processor, but I can't seem to find out if it will do the job. Aside from Fabian Fang answer... you didn't mention your actual QS CPU. If that 1.25 CPU is an original from Apple, it must come from a G4 MDD, thus I doubt it will go straight into a QS (I might be wrong, thou). If it would be a third-party CPU upgrade, then it might. Adobe CS3 is compatible with G4 but, from my personal experience, even with a 1.25 GHz DP G4, it would be slow. I had a G4 Digital Audio (almost same architecture than your QS) upgraded with a 1.4 GHz CPU: InDesign CS3 was pretty slow (but usable), Photoshop was better, but working with them wasn't the best. Now, with a G5 2.7 DP, it's much better: not blazing fast, but not crawling anymore. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade question
On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Nov 27, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Skyler Rudd wrote: I have a 2002 Quicksilver that I would like to upgrade so I can use Photoshop CS4. I have found an Apple MPU 1.25 GHz Dual Processor, but I can't seem to find out if it will do the job. Any help would be greatly appreciated. A simple search would have led you to Photoshop CS4 System Requirements, which include PowerPC G5 or Multicore Intel Processor: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/407/kb407716.html#main__Toc162848025 If this will help I installed CS4 on a 1GB TiBook today but it's going to run at CS3 speeds CS4's features run better on G5's. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites
On Nov 27, 2011, at 7:25 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I was watching Black Friday ads for an external 2tb drive for back ups. Offcie Max had a Seagate GoFlex 2tb for $75. But I was too late to get one. Then I started researching the Seagates online for prices. In my search, I came across terrible reviews for the Seagates. I remembered that there was a discussion on this list about them and it wasn't in their favor! So Seagate drives are off my list. 1. So, what brand would any of you suggest for an external drive? I use Hitachi drives exclusively. No problems so far. 2. I also have been looking at online backup sites, in addition to a physical back up. Carbonite looks good to me, but I am not familiar with the pros and cons of online. I would value your opinion. Too slow for large drives. Jane PS A few months back I was banned from the LEM lists because my email address had been hacked. Some Moderators have allowed me back in, but not all. Who can I contact to rescind all the bannings? It isn't as if I intentionally let someone hack my account and to send out spam! John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
