Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 3 Topics

2011-12-08 Thread Nick Adams


On Dec 8, 2011, at 1:32 PM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:

I have an occasional problem similar to those mentioned above. My  
G52 2.3

GHz Dual Processor (early 2003 if I remember correctly) fan speeds
sometimes make no sense at all.


I have the same problem with my G4 MDD:
OS 10.58
1.42 GHz.
2 GB ram
USB 3 PCI card
Sonnet SATA card with two 1.5 TB drives
350 GB hard drive on the ATA bus where the OS 10.58 is installed.

 About every two weeks or so the temperature spikes and the fans  
speed up.

Usually after a restart everything returns to normal for while.
I have left Activity Monitor running and it doesn't show any increase  
in CPU usage, nor does it show any rouge applications running.


I have opened the case and blew out and vacuumed the dust, including  
the side panel which acts as an air intake and the PSU as good as I  
could.


My problem didn't show up until I installed the Sonnet card and I am  
wondering if that is the cause.
Other than that it runs great and I don't feel like removing the  
Sonnet card to verify if indeed that is the problem.




Nick

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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-08 Thread Jeffrey balfus
I had the problem of fans running wild with my G5 tower. Fortunately it was a 
week before the Applecare ran out. The problem was with the logic board, which 
had to be replaced. It cost about $2K, so time ago.

Jeff

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G4 Quicksilver sleep

2011-12-08 Thread Gene Henley
I decided to add a four port USB 2.0 card to my Quicksilver. This one has a NEC 
chipset.
It works well ,except my sleep function no longer functions.I removed the card. 
Sleep funtion 
now works.
 I am confused. Any solutions?
  Gene

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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 3 Topics

2011-12-08 Thread David W. Morris


On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:40 AM, Nick Adams wrote:


I have the same problem with my G4 MDD:
OS 10.58
1.42 GHz.
2 GB ram
USB 3 PCI card
Sonnet SATA card with two 1.5 TB drives
350 GB hard drive on the ATA bus where the OS 10.58 is installed.




Nice specs for a G4 MDD PowerMac Nick.  I might get a SATA PCI card  
some time in the future so I can use larger, newer drives, but only if  
the SATA card is also supported by my MorphOS2.7 installation.  The G4  
PowerMac MDD was such a great case design, but is noisy with the stock  
fans.  It was a powerhouse for Apple for a long time and was improved  
over the largest range of clock speeds, more than any other CPU that I  
can think of.  I think it was a much better case design than the later  
G5 PowerMac's, with room for more drives and easier to work on.  My  
dual 2.7GHz G5 gets used most for running MacOSX, but the dual 1.42GHz  
G4 is more fun, since it can also run MorphOS2.7.


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Re: G4 Quicksilver sleep

2011-12-08 Thread Bill Connelly


On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Gene Henley wrote:

I decided to add a four port USB 2.0 card to my Quicksilver. This  
one has a NEC chipset.
It works well ,except my sleep function no longer functions.I  
removed the card. Sleep funtion

now works.


This is a known issue with the NEC chipset; go through the archives  
of this list it's been discussed many times. there are two solutions:


use partial sleep: put the monitor and HDDs to sleep but leave the  
mobo awake


get a USB card with a working chipset; I forget the manufacturer  
right now.




IOGear has them.

I thought NEC chipsets were ok ... hmmm ... sorry if I misled anyone a  
while ago in another thread.


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hard drives

2011-12-08 Thread Baldassare Guzzo

PM G4 933 with PCI SATA card.

My SATA card (Seri-Tek1S2) has internal and external connections.  The  
internal connection is connected to a 500 GB Seagate drive and seems  
to be working great for almost a year now.  My first question - Why  
doesnt the drive show up in the System Profiler?  The card shows up on  
the PCI Cards but no drive shows up in the Serial ATA or  
anywhere?   Can I fix this?


Second question - I am going to use the external SATA connection to  
connect to an external enclosure - strictly for back-up. I am going to  
use a Seagate drive because I still have good luck with them.  Is it  
better to use one of the new green Barracuda 5900 rpm drives or the  
standard 7200 Barracuda drives (that I have been using for years)?


Online reviews have not been helpful.

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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 3 Topics

2011-12-08 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 8-12-2011 15:40, Nick Adams ha scritto:

 Sonnet SATA card with two 1.5 TB drives

 About every two weeks or so the temperature spikes and the fans
 speed up.

 My problem didn't show up until I installed the Sonnet card and I am
 wondering if that is the cause.

If I get it correctly, with the SATA card you installed two additional big
HD drives; could it be the HDs are creating more heat, hence the fans spin
up?


PS: Next time, please insert the appropriate title into the subject field,
instead of leaving the Digest text.

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Re: hard drives

2011-12-08 Thread Kris Tilford

On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote:


My SATA card (Seri-Tek1S2) has internal and external connections.


I think you've got the model name wrong? The 1S2 was two internal  
connections only. The model that had two internal and two external was  
called the 1V2+2, or 1VE2+2, or 1eVE2+2.


The internal connection is connected to a 500 GB Seagate drive and  
seems to be working great for almost a year now.  My first question  
- Why doesnt the drive show up in the System Profiler?  The card  
shows up on the PCI Cards but no drive shows up in the Serial  
ATA or anywhere? Can I fix this?


I don't think so. If you boot from these SeriTek cards you can't Safe  
Boot either. There are some limitations to SeriTek cards, and lack of  
the HD showing in System Profiler is one. I assume this could be  
patched rather easily, on the hackintosh side there are often patched  
versions of System Profiler that show unsupported hardware, but these  
are normally Intel versions that won't likely run on a PPC Mac, and  
might not help this specific issue.


Second question - I am going to use the external SATA connection to  
connect to an external enclosure - strictly for back-up. I am going  
to use a Seagate drive because I still have good luck with them.  Is  
it better to use one of the new green Barracuda 5900 rpm drives or  
the standard 7200 Barracuda drives (that I have been using for years)?


Probably doesn't matter. The main issue with external enclosures is  
cooling. Many enclosures lack any fan or active cooling, so higher RPM  
drives under heavy usage have been known to overheat in an external  
enclosure. It's likely the 5900 RPM green drive runs cooler than the  
7200 RPM normal drive, but if it's only for backup, and you're rarely  
accessing the drive, use whichever you want.


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Re: Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-08 Thread Martin N

Lo,

At 00:33 08/12/2011, you wrote:

If you plan to re-partition your existing hard drive, instead of
adding a second hard drive to install another version of any OS on to,
you need the Leopard 10.5 install DVD.  The Panther and Tiger install
CD/DVD's Disk Utility does not allow re-partitioning a hard drive
without reformatting, or otherwise wiping out all data on the hard
drive, but Leopard can resize partitions without destroying the data
and can preserve your existing Tiger install.



Ubuntu PPC version LiveCD also has partitioning tools that preserve data.
I used GParted to re partition my mac mini.

Martin N

Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of 
MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups



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Re: hard drives

2011-12-08 Thread John Carmonne

On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote:

 PM G4 933 with PCI SATA card.
 
 My SATA card (Seri-Tek1S2) has internal and external connections.  The 
 internal connection is connected to a 500 GB Seagate drive and seems to be 
 working great for almost a year now.  My first question - Why doesnt the 
 drive show up in the System Profiler?  The card shows up on the PCI Cards 
 but no drive shows up in the Serial ATA or anywhere?   Can I fix this?
 
 Second question - I am going to use the external SATA connection to connect 
 to an external enclosure - strictly for back-up. I am going to use a Seagate 
 drive because I still have good luck with them.  Is it better to use one of 
 the new green Barracuda 5900 rpm drives or the standard 7200 Barracuda 
 drives (that I have been using for years)?
 
 Online reviews have not been helpful.
 

Well, I read those reviews too but I don't think I saw any Mac folks on them. 
I've a lot of Seagate HDD's and can't say anything bad, so  I just bought 8 
Seagate 2TB Green 5900 RPM 64 MB  drives for two RAID boxes because Seagate 
uses them in the NAS and RAID systems they sell, plus a lot cheaper at this 
time:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






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