G4 MDD won't connect to internet
Greetings! I hope someone can help! I have a G4 MDD 1.25 GHz DP running 10.5.8. Earlier tonight, it stopped connecting to the internet for no reason I could discern. I had used it on the internet (both with Safari and Firefox) with no issues all day. The machine is connected via ethernet, through a switch to a wired/wireless router. I had put it to sleep, and reawakened it maybe 15-20 minutes later, and when I did so, found that it would not load web pages, etc. Safari reported you are not connected to the internet. The network panel under System Preferences reported that the machine was connected to ethernet, but had a self-assigned IP address. Network Diagnostics told me I was not connected to the internet, and that it could not repair the connection. I tried restarting the machine, but no joy. I tried re-booting both the switch and the router, with no joy there either. The thing is, that 2 other machines (a BW G3, a windows desktop) are networked via the same switch to the same router, and a windows laptop wirelessly to the same router, and throughout all of this they have had no issues connecting to the internet. I tried swapping out ethernet cables, and connecting to different ports of the switch, but the results were the same - other machines connect to the internet fine, the MDD will not. Thinking that something may have been corrupted, I tried re-starting the MDD with a firewire drive containing a clone I had made yesterday (when there were no issues) of the startup drive. Same result as before - no internet connection. I have noticed since then, that, when I restart the machine, for the first 3-5 minutes the System Preferences network panel will report a self-assigned IP address. Then, after a few minutes, it will report a real IP address and the address of the router. Furthermore, the BW G3 will show up under the Shared heading on the left hand side of an open hard drive window. But if I open a web browser, it spins forever and reports (Firefox) that it could not find the server, or (Safari) that I am not connected to the intenet. It seems clear to me that the problem is not the router or switch, because other machines connected to the same router and/or switch have no problem connecting to the internet. Furthermore, it doesn't seem to be an electronic problem in the MDD, because it does report that it is connected to the ethernet, and eventually gets a valid IP address, and it sees the other mac on the network. So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? I will be very grateful for your wisdom and suggestions! Thanks, Fr. Rob Johansen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Rick wrote: Yes, I just looking to run one OS, what would be the latest or last version of OS 9? and can I just install it directly onto the hard drive, or is there some prep work is needed ? Thanks Rick OS 9.2.2 is the latest and most stable version. If you only want OS 9 then initialize the drive with the installer disc. Then just install, no special actions needed. If you have OS9 on another machine then all you need to do is copy the Application and System folder and drag them to the Cube drive via Firewire ports using Target Disk Mode. However it lives very nicely on the Tiger volume. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
HI I also have a stock G4 Cube 450 MHz with the stock 16mb Rage ATI graphics and 120GB Hard Drive. I maxed out the RAM and am running Tiger 10.4.11 quite happily. You should be able to dual boot between mac OS 9.2.2 and Tiger, although I only run Tiger on mine, but do run Mac OS 9.2.2, Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.8 on my Quicksilver 933 happily. Enjoy the best of both worlds and have a 9.2.2 partition and Tiger partition on your hard drive. I'm looking at getting a NVidia 6200 graphics card as this is Core Image (and therefore Quartz Extreme by default) compatable to run Leopard. Enjoy these iconic machines that are now almost 12 years old and still going strong. Cheers Pete On Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:43:01 AM UTC+8, zpro wrote: I just inherit a Mac Cube... what would be the best setup for this unit as far as OS is concern... OS 9 or OS X This is a stock unit... Regards- Richard “ Wherever you go, go with all your heart. - Confuciushttp://www.quotesdaddy.com/quote/198562/confucius/wherever-you-go-go-with-all-your-heart ”Get this email app! http://www.wisestamp.com/apps/quotes?utm_source=extensionutm_medium=emailutm_term=quotesutm_campaign=apps -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
Was there any lightning? If there was the onboard Ethernet may be shot. So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
On 16 Jun 2012, at 01:32:19 PDT, frrob wrote: So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? I will be very grateful for your wisdom and suggestions! --- Did you try checking the ethernet cable connections at both ends? Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
Alex: No, no lightning, or any other catastrophe. Besides, as I mentioned in my original post, the machine is reporting a connection to the ethernet, and is seeing the network at least so far as to see the BW G3 under the sharing heading. Also, now there is no delay in seeing the ethernet connection and reporting a valid IP address. So, the machine connects to the network, gets a valid IP address, sees the other Mac on the network, but won't connect to the internet. Any other ideas? Rob Johansen On Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:22:38 AM UTC-4, Alex Sciortino wrote: Was there any lightning? If there was the onboard Ethernet may be shot. So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet Date:Saturday, 16. June 2012 From:frrob fr...@earthlink.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So, the machine connects to the network, gets a valid IP address, sees the other Mac on the network, but won't connect to the internet. Any other ideas? Maybe it’s rather a network configuration problem. Where does the Mac get the valid IP from? A router? You may have to set it up so the IP from the Mac is “allowed” to connect to the internet – it may be simply the router that restricts it to connect… Just one posibility. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
Alex and Ken: I did check all the physical connections, and they were fine. And again, as I mentioned in my original post, the machine reports being connected to ethernet, and gets a valid IP address, and sees the other Mac on the network. Also, the appropriate link and activity lights come on on the switch when the Mac is started. The mac is getting the valid IP from the router. If it is a network config problem, then why do the other machines (BW G3, windows boxen) connected to the same router via the same switch have no problem connecting? And how would I fix this? Thanks, Rob Johansen On Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:15:15 AM UTC-4, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet Date:Saturday, 16. June 2012 From:frrob fr...@earthlink.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So, the machine connects to the network, gets a valid IP address, sees the other Mac on the network, but won't connect to the internet. Any other ideas? Maybe it’s rather a network configuration problem. Where does the Mac get the valid IP from? A router? You may have to set it up so the IP from the Mac is “allowed” to connect to the internet – it may be simply the router that restricts it to connect… Just one posibility. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet Date:Saturday, 16. June 2012 From:frrob fr...@earthlink.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Alex and Ken: I did check all the physical connections, and they were fine. And again, as I mentioned in my original post, the machine reports being connected to ethernet, and gets a valid IP address, and sees the other Mac on the network. Getting a valid IP is not an indicator of a good internet connection. It is merly a hint that the DHCP server works. A DHCP server distributes IP addresses for all the computers in the network that connect to it. Having a DHCP server is one of the duties of the router. A switch works on the hardware level of the IP protocol and as such it doesn’t make a difference if the computers are connected one on earch ethernet port of the route or through a switch. Also, the appropriate link and activity lights come on on the switch when the Mac is started. The mac is getting the valid IP from the router. So the ethernet part works. You get an IP. All should be fine, right? If it is a network config problem, then why do the other machines (BW G3, windows boxen) connected to the same router via the same switch have no problem connecting? And how would I fix this? Well, my router has the “feature” to “[allow|deny] internet access for new devices”. This would result in a similar behavier as you describe: the machines that are already known by the router (your other machines, BW G3 and Windows PCs) are allowed internet access, whereas the new device, which happens to be your new Mac, is not. As I’m saying, this is only one possibility. I assume we are talking IPv4 here? Other routers allow or disallow internet access for specific IP ranges, i.e. 192.168.0.1 though 192.168.0.50 are allowed WAN, whereas 192.168.0.51 through 192.168.0.255 are allowed LAN only. (WAN = wide area network, i.e. everything external to the internal network, i.e. the internet) (LAN = local area netork, i.e. your internel network, where you can “see” the other computers) Note that some routers use different IP addresses, like 10.0.0.138. You should see the setup of you router if you type its IP address in a browser (like Safari or Internet Explorer): http://10.0.0.138 http://192.168.0.0 Though it could be also a configuration problem on the Mac OS X side of you new Mac, I think that the very likely explanation is a network (i.e. router) configuration problem. In order to help: 1.) What IP addresses do your computers get from the router (through DHCP)? 2.) Which router do you use? 3.) What is the IP of the router and the IP ranges for the devices (via DHCP)? 4.) IPv4 or IPv6? 5.) Which Mac OS X is on the new Mac? Is it a fresh installation? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
Hello, Well I was reading a article on lowend mac about someone author going back to OS 9, since now, apple has basic drop support for all G4/G5 and now its all intel platform. So... I may bump up the memory to max, and add a processor to speed things up, if OS 9 can handle that ? /So, let me ask, is there anyone out there running a cube max out in memory and a processor, but just running OS 9 only ?, if so how does it run, or some problems ?/ Major Thanks ! Rick On 6/16/2012 1:27 AM, PeteMo wrote: HI I also have a stock G4 Cube 450 MHz with the stock 16mb Rage ATI graphics and 120GB Hard Drive. I maxed out the RAM and am running Tiger 10.4.11 quite happily. You should be able to dual boot between mac OS 9.2.2 and Tiger, although I only run Tiger on mine, but do run Mac OS 9.2.2, Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.8 on my Quicksilver 933 happily. Enjoy the best of both worlds and have a 9.2.2 partition and Tiger partition on your hard drive. I'm looking at getting a NVidia 6200 graphics card as this is Core Image (and therefore Quartz Extreme by default) compatable to run Leopard. Enjoy these iconic machines that are now almost 12 years old and still going strong. Cheers Pete “ All our dreams can come true...if we have the courage to pursue them. - Walt Disney http://www.quotesdaddy.com/quote/237760/walt-disney/all-our-dreams-can-come-trueif-we-have-the-courage ” Get this email app! http://www.wisestamp.com/apps/quotes?utm_source=extensionutm_medium=emailutm_term=quotesutm_campaign=apps -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Cube ? Date:Saturday, 16. June 2012 From:Rick rick0...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So... I may bump up the memory to max, and add a processor to speed things up, if OS 9 can handle that ? /So, let me ask, is there anyone out there running a cube max out in memory and a processor, but just running OS 9 only ?, if so how does it run, or some problems ?/ CPU: === Processors can be a problem. Most newer G4 processors, like a 7448 or a 7457 require an Open Firmware patch, and for Mac OS 9 additionally an NVRAM patch (which is lost everytime the NVRAM is zapped). Also, only Mac OS 9.2.1/9.2.2 work with these kind of processors. Other G4 processors, that were available in pre-2003 Mac models, should work fine with Mac OS 9.2.x. With the Cube you additional have to watch out for the power consumption or you will destroy the VRM (voltage regulartor module). The original 450/500 MHz 7400 or 7410 CPU consumes only 6 Watts. A faster and newer 1 GHz 7455 will use close to 20 Watts. (Sorry, this is in german:) http://www.macinfo.de/hardware/chips.html#powerpc Memory: = Mac OS can only use so much memory, and I read somewhere that for applications only 1 GB are available anyways. Mac OS 9 itself can handle up to 1.5 GB of memory, which is the maximum for the Cube anyways. Memory is never a problem. Having more, you (or the OS) can always use less… My Cube: == My Power Mac G4 Cube is disasembled for the moment, and as soon as I have the time I will do some upgrading to the processor. It’s now a stock G4 450 MHz with max’d out 1.5 GB or memory. I use an nVidia GeForce 2 MX400 from a Quicksilver I also own. But the graphics card is rather important if you plan to use Mac OS X. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Friday, 15. June 2012 From:Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The problem is, I don_t have a 9.1 CD. I only have this updater. Yup, you need the 9.1 CD for language kits, or for any NuBus Mac. I’ve got a G5 DVD that has an installer for 9.2.2 Classic Environment on it. The installer actually is a .dmg and requires 10.4 or so. BUT it results in a working 9.2.2 installation of the selected language. Gladly, german is one of the included languages. The question is: will this “update” an existing 9.0 installation? I would need to install under my 10.4.11 of course. Anyone ever tried such a procedure? About speed: the boot process of 9.0.4 is not as fast as the one of 8.6. 9.0 and 9.0.4 were, IMHO, poor releases. On the other hand, with the exception of very resource constrained systems, I believe 9.1 and 9.2.2 to be the best versions of the Classic Mac OS on Power Macs (for 68K, I like 7.1 and 6.0.8). I’ll hopefully soon have the chance to compare 8.6 to 9.2.2… Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
On Jun 16, 2012, at 6:32 AM, frrob wrote: Alex and Ken: I did check all the physical connections, and they were fine. And again, as I mentioned in my original post, the machine reports being connected to ethernet, and gets a valid IP address, and sees the other Mac on the network. Check your configuration. You may need to delete your system network configuration preferences file. If you can get an IP address, and see local systems, then the issue is either your system cannot find the gateway address to access IP addresses beyond the LAN or the network mask is wrong. Since both of those are sent by the DHCP server along with your IP address, either your DHCP server is messed up (the router) or the network configuration is wrong. Check the settings against a working mac. Also do the other, working systems function after a reboot? or if you select 'Renew LEase' in the TCP/IP settings in the Network control panel? DHCP is only important at the time an address is handed out; typical home routers give out addresse setting s with very long lease times, so the mac doesn't actually ask for a new address that often. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
Bruce, Mac User, and Ken: Thanks for all your help and suggestions! After posting my last reply, I shut down the MDD and took a nap for a couple of hours (I was up till 4:00 AM). When I started it up, it took a bit longer than usual, and there was a lot of disk activity. So I let it go, and even after it had, to all appearances, completed start-up, there was still a lot of disk activity, really churning. It was clear that the machine was doing something, although I had not opened any applications. So I let it do its thing, which took about 10 minutes. When the machine had stopped al the disk churning, I checked the network panel in System Preferences, which reported a valid IP address. I fired up Safari, and, halleluia, it loaded my home page. Browsers are surfing the web just fine now. I had done/changed NOTHING. It seems that OS X fixed the problem all on its own. I just wish it hadn't cost me a few hours of sleep in the meantime. Any ideas on what the OS might have done, or what the problem may have been? Thanks again! Rob Johansen On Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:48:01 AM UTC-4, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 16, 2012, at 6:32 AM, frrob wrote: Alex and Ken: I did check all the physical connections, and they were fine. And again, as I mentioned in my original post, the machine reports being connected to ethernet, and gets a valid IP address, and sees the other Mac on the network. Check your configuration. You may need to delete your system network configuration preferences file. If you can get an IP address, and see local systems, then the issue is either your system cannot find the gateway address to access IP addresses beyond the LAN or the network mask is wrong. Since both of those are sent by the DHCP server along with your IP address, either your DHCP server is messed up (the router) or the network configuration is wrong. Check the settings against a working mac. Also do the other, working systems function after a reboot? or if you select 'Renew LEase' in the TCP/IP settings in the Network control panel? DHCP is only important at the time an address is handed out; typical home routers give out addresse setting s with very long lease times, so the mac doesn't actually ask for a new address that often. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
On Jun 16, 2012, at 11:32 AM, frrob wrote: Any ideas on what the OS might have done, or what the problem may have been? The OS could have been running the Cron scripts. You might have fixed this with a Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup, which would trash the old system cache files and rebuild them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
At 8:40 AM -0700 6/15/2012, Cameron Kaiser wrote: TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. OpenType system requirements Mac OS 8.6-9.2 or OS X ATM Light or Deluxe 4.6 or later AdobePS printer driver 8.6 or later recommended w/a PS printer 16 MB RAM Citation needed. I've never been able to get OpenType fonts to work at all, and even TrueType fonts need conversion to add the required resources. I'm too lazy to google, but my notes from that era say: 10/22/1999 ATM 4.5.2, $69.95. Supports OpenType. Incompat w/ OS 9. and 04/xx/2001 ATM Light 4.6, freeware, supports OS 8.6, OS 9, MM, OpenType, TrueType, etc. ATM Deluxe 4.6 is $65.00 ... basically Light+Suitcase management, Reunion. fwiw, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Back up options
Hi folks. So I'm getting a G5 and I am wondering what is the best way to back it up on an external firewire 800 hard drive. Is there software that will do this automatically? Thank you all so much for your help. Peace. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Back up options
On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Anand wrote: Is there software that will do this automatically? Install Leopard 10.5.8 and you can use Time Machine to automagically backup. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Back up options
Use carbon copy cloner. It works great. You can set a schedule on it and it is free. Is there software that will do this automatically? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Back up options
I use Deja Vu. There are better options, but it came free with Toast and it does the job. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- It would have been funnier if I didn't have to think. -- Ashley Mills -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Back up options
At 11:43 AM -0700 6/16/2012, Anand wrote: G5 and I am wondering what is the best way to back it up on an external firewire 800 hard drive. Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) is the fav of many of us, and free. http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html SuperDuper! is also good, but $. http://www.shirt-pocket.com/ The above two apps will create *reliable* *bootable* clones of your HDs. At 3:10 PM -0500 6/16/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: Install Leopard 10.5.8 and you can use Time Machine to automagically backup. Time Machine is cute, but I still cannot recommend it for anything other than quickie daily incremental backups, redundant with a full clone made by a reliable product such as CCC. After n revisions TM still does not produce a bootable volume. And it still sometimes corrupts whole backup volume. It's Just Not Reliable. YMMV, of course. Search these LEM lists for prior discussions. This subject has been hit quite a few times. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:27 PM, PeteMo wrote: HI I also have a stock G4 Cube 450 MHz with the stock 16mb Rage ATI graphics and 120GB Hard Drive. I maxed out the RAM and am running Tiger 10.4.11 quite happily. You should be able to dual boot between mac OS 9.2.2 and Tiger, although I only run Tiger on mine, but do run Mac OS 9.2.2, Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.8 on my Quicksilver 933 happily. Enjoy the best of both worlds and have a 9.2.2 partition and Tiger partition on your hard drive. I'm looking at getting a NVidia 6200 graphics card as this is Core Image (and therefore Quartz Extreme by default) compatable to run Leopard. Enjoy these iconic machines that are now almost 12 years old and still going strong. Cheers Pete On Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:43:01 AM UTC+8, zpro wrote: I just inherit a Mac Cube... what would be the best setup for this unit as far as OS is concern... OS 9 or OS X This is a stock unit... Regards- Richard Nice to see some Cube owners suface:-) Although it's possible to get Leopard on a 450 Cube via Helper or Carbon Copy Cloner it is really slow. I have 10.5.8 on one machine with a 1.2 processor and Radeon 7500 card because iTunes requires 10.5. The bgger problem with the Cube for me is the 100 MHz Bus speed. Any streaming video, Skype, YouTube or iChat is annoyingly choppy to impossible. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: Was there any lightning? If there was the onboard Ethernet may be shot. So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? I would reset the machine by disconnecting all cables then remove the RAM depress the CUDA switch for 15 seconds. Then replace the RAM and cables. Restart zapping the PRAM, I don't think it's a bad Ethernet port because it does see the router. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Rick wrote: Hello, Well I was reading a article on lowend mac about someone author going back to OS 9, since now, apple has basic drop support for all G4/G5 and now its all intel platform. So... I may bump up the memory to max, and add a processor to speed things up, if OS 9 can handle that ? So, let me ask, is there anyone out there running a cube max out in memory and a processor, but just running OS 9 only ?, if so how does it run, or some problems ? Major Thanks ! Rick I have a Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 processor, 120 GB 7200 RPM Seagate HDD, 1.5 GB RAM and a ATI Radeon 7500. My CAD/CAM program runs on OS 9 and the max RAM makes rendering in zoomed mode really fast. However OS 9 on 450MHz and 512 RAM is a power house. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac.
I reset the PMU, same death screen, even with safe mode. I can't even open the dvd drive to reinstall the OS. Is it the motherboard? I would suggest resetting the PMU and trying to boot from the image again http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939 I had a similar issue with getting Leopard on a G5 dual 2.0Ghz that didn't have dual layer DVD, and it took a couple of days before I tried resetting the PMU and that did the trick even though I have no idea why. I was at a point where I decided I'd try everything and anything, no matter how remote or off the wall. On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:58 PM, TIM HACKETT wrote: HELP! GRAY SCREEN OF DEATH! I ran the disc image of Leopard through Disk Utility to try to make a bootable image, as advised, and now this! I T booted via firewire to get my g5's HD onto my old emac, ran Disk utility, which reportede NO PROBLEMS, and STILL I get death screen. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
After doing everything that John has suggested (even pull oput the ethernet card and clean it and reseat it), I would go to System Pref then click on Network and change the settings to AirPort only (shut everything else off)... I had an iBook Clamshell do this to me many of times, once I changed it to AirPort only it never did it again!!! I think something happens when it goes to sleep that causes it (it must be confused when it wakes and doesn't remember where it was before it went to sleep LOL) -Original Message- From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Sent: Jun 16, 2012 8:43 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: Was there any lightning? If there was the onboard Ethernet may be shot. So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? I would reset the machine by disconnecting all cables then remove the RAM depress the CUDA switch for 15 seconds. Then replace the RAM and cables. Restart zapping the PRAM, I don't think it's a bad Ethernet port because it does see the router. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
