Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 1, 2014, at 03:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) [snip - my griping about the conversion process in general] Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? pffft. They'll pry my ppc macs out of my cold dead hands. (not to be confused with my saying the same thing about Eudora a few years ago). With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. The transition from the standard unix mailbox to the proprietary index with separate message files occurred in Leopard. That's why I now gots an additional 100,000+ files on me drive. I see now that Apple has changed their file format/set-up three times, during the transitions to Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion. That's got me thinking: The older versions of Mail do not run on newer versions of the OS. So how are people and businesses (with a legal requirement) handling this inability to read their backups and archives? How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. Yea, it's there if the files are attachments. If they're in-line, then it's AWOL. I've discovered that I can drag individual images to a fold in Finder, if I'm patient (Finder has to see each drag before you let go of the mouse). I guess that will work on messages that contain only a few files. Any idea where Mail is stashing these? Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. Nothing pertaining to saving images tho. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. Thx, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. My bad, I meant the *default* default browser, which is Safari :-/ I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. Yea, it's there if the files are attachments. If they're in-line, then it's AWOL. That’s odd, because I picked one with a whole bunch of inline attachments. I don’t have a 10.5 system handy to check though. Wish I could get PearPC to compile because the tun/tap network adapter flat does not work in VirtualBox :-( OS X with no network is useless for my needs, and no one’s been able to get the jit stuff working http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5757 Of course, PearPC is more or less dead, no updates in years; everyone went to MacHacks instead :-/ I've discovered that I can drag individual images to a fold in Finder, if I'm patient (Finder has to see each drag before you let go of the mouse). I guess that will work on messages that contain only a few files. Any idea where Mail is stashing these? I suspect it’s not ‘stashing’ them anywhere, but decoding them out of the mail message source at runtime. IAC I cannot find any place attachments are saved separately in my mail stores, just .emlx files, which contain the raw email source with a .plist appended to the end for book-keeping purposes. Mail doesn’t work like Eudora splitting attachments away from messages like that. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. I could have sworn I saw that the other day when I looked :-( Guess I’m wrong. I found a $30 application that says they can do this. You might try using ‘smart' mailboxes. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
I’ve had a problem with Apple Mail not being consistent as to Applying the RULES that you have formulated.. And that’s been from day one that they included it in Apple’s MAIL BTW, I go back to 1986 and Mac OS (they didn’t call it OS back then) System ver. 6.8 RHB That’s why I bought Spam Sieve for my OS10.10.1 w/Mail ver 5.5.1 Unit … and no longer use the Quicksilver w/Leopard for eMail an web access. One thing I liked about Eudora was the ability to bounce back to the sender, unwanted eMails. RHB . On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: O On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) . My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. Thx, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Robert H. Baucom rbt...@owc.netmailto:rbt...@owc.net wrote: I’ve had a problem with Apple Mail not being consistent as to Applying the RULES that you have formulated.. And that’s been from day one that they included it in Apple’s MAIL BTW, I go back to 1986 and Mac OS (they didn’t call it OS back then) System ver. 6.8 RHB That’s why I bought Spam Sieve for my OS10.10.1 w/Mail ver 5.5.1 Unit … and no longer use the Quicksilver w/Leopard for eMail an web access. One thing I liked about Eudora was the ability to bounce back to the sender, unwanted eMails. Mail used to have that option; but it no longer does, mainly because it just increases the total spam load on the system because the ‘from’ address is rarely the real place it came from. To be honest, I’ve never really like client-side mail rules; I always had the luxury of being able to set up server-side ones. Note: if you use your iCloud email address you can set the rules on the iCloud server, which will filter email before it goes to your devices: http://www.macworld.com/article/2046147/five-icloud-email-tricks-you-probably-missed.html One thing I now notice that Dan did not mention was what kind of email server he’s dealing with: POP or IMAP? I think Mail does things differently between those two. I’ve NEVER used POP mail for more than a few months. Just too many devices I need to get my email on... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apple Mail questions
Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Overall Mail's performance is improved, as long as I stay away from big mailboxes. Those still take 30s to a minute to view. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. How do I create a rule to move attachments to an alternate folder? I've no problem creating rules that move messages to specific mailboxes. But on some, I'd like to also move the attachments to a different folder, away from the default (which has become cluttered fast!). Thanks, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. Spotlight was vastly improved over the years. I have users with tens of thousands of emails in their mailboxes and normal performance. Spotlight actually works now :-) It's quite useful, and I haven't seen a machine bog down with indexing in a dogs age. Apple's made a lot of improvements over the years. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. No really, because Mail is calling the system Webkit libs; again 'getting a newer version of the OS' and, hence, moving to an Intel system is a surefire way to improve performance. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pojrv6fatugfvu/mail%20attachments%20menu.png?dl=0 IIRC there were attachments buttons in the tool bars that did the same thing. Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. You could try to relink the binary from the command line with install_name_tool. On my 10.4.11 system, it is linked to /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit You could change this to point to another WebKit library with something like install_name_tool -change /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit /Foo/Bar/Bletch/NewWebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail However, I would back up your Mail.app first! No promises that this would work, YMMV, batteries not included, please see your physician for execution time lasting longer than four hours. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- :wq! --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
What everyone is telling you is true . I keep the same computer you have - Offline to Handle my Finances. That way there’s no danger of anyone hacking into my accounts or password lists … or stealing date. Though I’m using a mid 2012 APPLE Pro Tower with Yosemite OS 10.10.1 … I can only recommend getting a unit that will at least run the Maverick OS. IN FACT, I suggest you just stay with Maverick, the Calendar is simpler to make alerts and considering other features dropped in Yosemite. PLUS, Yosemite is BUTT UGLY. The Safari Icon is moronically, dimwitted, as is the contacts icon. BUT, I love Apple Mail. On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. Spotlight was vastly improved over the years. I have users with tens of thousands of emails in their mailboxes and normal performance. Spotlight actually works now :-) It's quite useful, and I haven't seen a machine bog down with indexing in a dogs age. Apple's made a lot of improvements over the years. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. No really, because Mail is calling the system Webkit libs; again 'getting a newer version of the OS' and, hence, moving to an Intel system is a surefire way to improve performance. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pojrv6fatugfvu/mail%20attachments%20menu.png?dl=0 IIRC there were attachments buttons in the tool bars that did the same thing. Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received
Re: Question about exporting email addresses from Apple Mail app
On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: My google fu is week here. Running Apple Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11, but have access to a 10.6 if that has a better answer. snip Short of importing the whole 14,000 into AddressBook, then exporting them from there, are there any options? I already converted the .emlx files to an mbox, but am not having luck exporting from there. geeky way to do it: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=731859 I R A Perl haxor, all nails must be hit with the perlhammer. It looks like the Email::Address CPAN module does what you want. To install the module do (In terminal) sudo cpan install Email::Address And accept all the defaults... Also the 'previous recipients' data might be exportable with some terminal hackery: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110516152604993 Thanks, and I bow to your HAXORness. I installed Perl and Email::Address as per the instructions, but my eyes glazed over pretty quickly. After some more googling I came across http://andreasamann.com/MacOSX/ Mail_Scripts which does it from address Book I figured I would give it a shot. Selected 14,547 messages in Mail and selected Add Sender to Address Book, then let my dual 2.0 G5 churn for a while. Address book deduped them, so left with 3,152 cards. Then ran Export Addresses (Address Book) from the site above's scripts and let that churn. Total time trying to find a one step solution from mail, both active, including searching, and computer churning was about 4.5-5 hours through all the variations I tried. Total time once I accepted a 2 step solution going through Address Book, about 40 min. 10 of that was active, the rest churn time. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about exporting email addresses from Apple Mail app
On Jan 16, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: My google fu is week here. Running Apple Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11, but have access to a 10.6 if that has a better answer. What I am trying to do is export the email addresses only from one account in one mailbox. ie: In my inbox I have my gmail, comcast and business accounts. I want to export only the email addresses in the inbox for my business account. Everything I am finding is talking about exporting from AddressBook, which I don't use except by accident. It only has about 75 contacts. I have 14,000 email messages in my business email in box, with probably 1500 unique addresses. I can dedupe the addresses, but I have to get them out first. Short of importing the whole 14,000 into AddressBook, then exporting them from there, are there any options? I already converted the .emlx files to an mbox, but am not having luck exporting from there. geeky way to do it: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=731859 I R A Perl haxor, all nails must be hit with the perlhammer. It looks like the Email::Address CPAN module does what you want. To install the module do (In terminal) sudo cpan install Email::Address And accept all the defaults... Also the 'previous recipients' data might be exportable with some terminal hackery: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110516152604993 -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Insane Apple mail problem
OK, had a system crash, archived and installed back to Sys 10.5.8 with Apple mail 3.6 and now cannot communicate with my to year old server mail system. Have called the provider with 2 different answers. I understand (I hope) that each change in the server list requires a restart, but cannot get through. I can log onto web email for the account. My question: do I need to delete preferences for a clean start? will it help? Secondly, is there a way to get my mail from the old System folder? OS 10.5.8, dual 1.8 g5, 4 gigs ram, lots of hard drive -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Insane Apple mail problem
On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:47 AM, jbeque...@tconl.com wrote: OK, had a system crash, archived and installed back to Sys 10.5.8 with Apple mail 3.6 and now cannot communicate with my to year old server mail system. Have called the provider with 2 different answers. I understand (I hope) that each change in the server list requires a restart, but cannot get through. I can log onto web email for the account. My question: do I need to delete preferences for a clean start? will it help? Secondly, is there a way to get my mail from the old System folder? OS 10.5.8, dual 1.8 g5, 4 gigs ram, lots of hard drive I think you made your own problems by possibly jumping the gun for the full reinstall. Normally the process for a non-booting System would be: 1) try a Safe Boot by holding Shift key at startup. 2) Boot alternate disk, partition, or disc and run Disk UtilityRepair Disk. 3) reinstall the latest Combo Update, in this case the 10.5.8 Combo Update. Only as a last resort should you reinstall the whole System software. Now that you've gone this route, you'll probably have to mess around with this for a long time. I've always avoided the Archive Reinstall method, and rather opted for a clean reinstall on an alternate HD and then transfer all the accounts and data with Migration Assistant. You'll probably have to manually find your old mail files, and old mail preferences now, a real hassle. I wish I could help, and I have done this before, but I can't remember what I did (other than transfer files folders from the archived system into the new system). You've got a lot of work to do now. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple Mail - junk filter?
My mail filter is working too good filtering out things I want to read. Is it good to keep the address's of the sites I want to keep in my address book and will this prevent the junk filter from identify those sites as junk? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Mail - junk filter?
On May 24, 2011, at 7:48 AM, John Callahan wrote: My mail filter is working too good filtering out things I want to read. Is it good to keep the address's of the sites I want to keep in my address book and will this prevent the junk filter from identify those sites as junk? Yes that will help, as will religiously marking them as 'Not Junk' when you find them. Sometimes Mail finally learns to recognize them. Alternatively, you can use Mail rules to move those specific emails into their own folder before the junk rule is applied to the inbox, sometimes these messages are just too spammish looking to be properly evaluated by the Junk rule. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple mail addys?
Where do I find the Apple Mail address's to delete the ones I don't want any more? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple mail addys?
On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Where do I find the Apple Mail address's to delete the ones I don't want any more? With your Mail.app open go to the Window MenuPrevious Recipients. There is also a selection there to open Address Panel which are the addresses from your Address Book. Does this help? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
early version of Apple Mail still works
I thought y'all might enjoy this. Those old LEMs just keep on working for you! http://thereifixedit.com/2010/08/20/white-trash-repairs-carltons-mac-mail/ -- Bill Christensen http://greenbuilder.com/contact/ Green Building Professionals Directory: http://directory.greenbuilder.com Sustainable Building Calendar: http://Calendar.SustainableSources.com Green Real Estate: http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/ Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/ Books/videos/software: http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple Mail problem?
Hi All I have a TiBook G4 800 that's got a problem with Apple Mail. I can compose and forward letters but I can't use the reply button. when I select reply I get a blank top of the page where the send button should be. If I use my AOL account all works fine? I have redone my Mail account a lot of times but no cigar. Also the rebuild selection is always greyed out. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Mail problem?
I have the same problem on my PM g4 sawtooth. Either get an update to the program, delete it an replace it with another copy, or just use time machine to Go back in time using the Leopard copy and everything should work. If all fails like what i said here, i will do some extensive research to help. Ever since i installed the frostwire toolbar on safari, safari had the same problem where it turned all grey. -- From Mark's PM G4 Sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Mail can't access google maile
I am no expert, but I had the same problem for a while... I am running 10.3.9 on my G4 and using port 587 to acces my gmail account. All the settings have to be perfectoly right; I deviated on some of the details and I couldn't access my gmail account for a while, but then one clear day I looked more carefully to the instructions and everything fell in place. In the Advanced settings the port is 993. The mail version is 1.3 (v606/624) hope this works for you, since you are using 995 On Mar 12, 9:46 am, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I got a Motorola SBG900 and since I've used it Apple Mail can't access google mail. I've opened ports 587 and 995 which are specified in the preferences. This hasn't made a difference. I've been able to get my Tivo to work. I found a list of a whole bunch of ports which I was able to open in the custom firewall setting. I don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm running 10.411 on a Digital Audio G4. The documentation that came with this thing is mostly useless, as is the documentation online. Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple Mail can't access google maile
I got a Motorola SBG900 and since I've used it Apple Mail can't access google mail. I've opened ports 587 and 995 which are specified in the preferences. This hasn't made a difference. I've been able to get my Tivo to work. I found a list of a whole bunch of ports which I was able to open in the custom firewall setting. I don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm running 10.411 on a Digital Audio G4. The documentation that came with this thing is mostly useless, as is the documentation online. Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Mail can't access google maile
On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:46 AM, smac0031 wrote: I got a Motorola SBG900 and since I've used it Apple Mail can't access google mail. I've opened ports 587 and 995 which are specified in the preferences. This hasn't made a difference. I've been able to get my Tivo to work. I found a list of a whole bunch of ports which I was able to open in the custom firewall setting. I don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm running 10.411 on a Digital Audio G4. Can you turn off all the firewall functions on the router, to make sure the problem isn't Mail. What happens if you look in the system or console logs or watch the Activity window in Mail while you try to connect? I don't know what protocol you're using, but I'm connecting to GMail in IMAP mode and incoming needs port 993 open and outgoing is set to 'use default ports 25, 465, 587'. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple mail 2.1.3: deleted e-mails continue to show up and duplicate!
Got any idea how I can get Apple mail 2.1.3 (OX 10.4.11) to clear all old e-mails that I have received and not continue to duplicate them? Problem started out of the blue and I can't seem to discover the cause. I've cleared the server. The e-mail app. also freezes and I can get out of it only for force quitting. Any help much appreciated! Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple mail 2.1.3: deleted e-mails continue to show up and duplicate!
On 19/07/2009, at 2:11 AM, Tray Stephenson wrote: Got any idea how I can get Apple mail 2.1.3 (OX 10.4.11) to clear all old e-mails that I have received and not continue to duplicate them? Problem started out of the blue and I can't seem to discover the cause. I've cleared the server. The e-mail app. also freezes and I can get out of it only for force quitting. Any help much appreciated! Thanks. Repairing Disk Permissions may help. Go to Apps Utilities Disk Utility. Select your main HDD, and boot partition. Click Repair Disk Permissions. Thanks, Po-en Tsai -- iMac G3 Indigo 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS 9.2.2, 80gb HDD with 768MB ram. Quite speedy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Apple Mail
Using OS 10.5.6 on a G4 Power mac and for the last week mail is open on the desktop over night. It is not set to open in system preferences. What is going on? I can quit it and all is well until the next morning. Norm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
On Sep 4, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: There's nothing in the my prefs file that looks like it would affect this, unless it's the last read message item, which would point not to a prefs issue but a caching issue of some sort. My quits seems to all (or mostly?) occur during a POP3 download. Only other major oddidty is sometimes messages that have been received and read (or even composed and sent) - when i later attempt to view, I get a pre-worded, italicized messsage that says (parphrase) This message can not be read because it has not yet been downloaded - which makes no sense, especially as it has at least once occurred with a draft message which I still have (but can't read) - however, the actual message was sent, which triggered a quit, and did not save the message in sent file. Hope this helps you figure it out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
At 1:37 PM -0700 9/3/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Dan wrote: It seems like problems with Apple Mail continue... everything from it suddenly quitting to freezing up while displaying certain messages. You re-launch and Mail goes right back to the same freezing or quitting! Mail is one of the most stable apps on my mac. As it should be. But since the last round of updates, I'm seeing more and more people with problems. However, we use IMAP exclusively, I wonder if it's something to do with the way Mail manages POP accounts. Could be. All our uses are POP3. But one of the more frequent problems is for Mail to go belly up when trying to view an email with lots of HTML in it. That email has already been downloaded; no POP3 actions occurring. Since tossing the prefs file often fixes this, I'm thinking the problem isn't the installed webkit... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
At 11:07 AM -0700 9/4/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Dan wrote: However, we use IMAP exclusively, I wonder if it's something to do with the way Mail manages POP accounts. Could be. All our uses are POP3. But one of the more frequent problems is for Mail to go belly up when trying to view an email with lots of HTML in it. That email has already been downloaded; no POP3 actions occurring. Since tossing the prefs file often fixes this, I'm thinking the problem isn't the installed webkit... Ugh. that's why I have mine set to default to plain text. I think people sending HTML mail should be drug out and shot. Are the problematic html mails referencing Flash crap? They don't seem to be. Or (dog forbid) they're getting MS Wordified HTML-like-cheese-food- stuff? *shudder* Have you tried doing a file comparison of a broken and working prefs file? No, but I'll do that. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Dan wrote: It seems like problems with Apple Mail continue... everything from it suddenly quitting to freezing up while displaying certain messages. You re-launch and Mail goes right back to the same freezing or quitting! Mail is one of the most stable apps on my mac. (and numerous others here in the College) It's on all the time (current uptime is 20 days) and I never have problems with it. Seriously, never. It's like Terminal, it never crashes... E-mail is THE killer app in the College (we had to unexpectedly shut down our mail server for about 10 minutes the other day, just long enough to plug it into a new UPS, and were inundated with phone calls and door knockings HEY! The E-mail is down!!!) and no one has complained to me about Mail in 10.3, 4 or 5. I've had only one person who routinely had issues with Mail, and that was tracked to a flaky wireless VPN connection...she would have had problems with any mail client. However, we use IMAP exclusively, I wonder if it's something to do with the way Mail manages POP accounts. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
