Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
At 3:29 PM -0700 1/23/2011, Tina K. wrote: To connect from outside your home network, you'll need to forward port 5900 to your husband's Mac in the router configuration. I think that's all it takes, someone please correct me if I've overlooked something. That's fine. A minor, but perhaps important point... First, make sure you use a strong password. This vnc login is giving someone on the outside FULL access to your computer, and thru it FULL access to everything on your home LAN! Next, DO NOT use the default inbound port 5900. That's a well-known port number, that virus/worms/malware often check in their attempts break in. Keep that port CLOSED. Instead, use a port with an obscure number, eg: 65500. Then forward that obscure port to the standard port 5900 on the target Mac. WAN port 65500 - LAN port 5900 on husband's Mac. In the VNC Client, that you're using to connect to your home, simply tell it to use port 65500 instead of the default of 5900. Yea, it's an extra step. But in today's climate it's just NOT a good idea to leave your front door open! FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Tina K. wrote: To connect from outside your home network, you'll need to forward port 5900 to your husband's Mac in the router configuration. I think that's all it takes, someone please correct me if I've overlooked something. And know your external IP address, which can change at times, although cable and dsl leases tend to be very long, and are mostly static, especially if you never reboot your cable/dsl modem. If you can walk your husband through finding your external IP address if it changes, this will work, otherwise a service like dyndns will let you have a fixed ip name that's mapped to your real address at all times. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/24 08:33, Dan so eloquently wrote: First, make sure you use a strong password. This vnc login is giving someone on the outside FULL access to your computer, and thru it FULL access to everything on your home LAN! Next, DO NOT use the default inbound port 5900. That's a well-known port number, that virus/worms/malware often check in their attempts break in. Keep that port CLOSED. Instead, use a port with an obscure number, eg: 65500. Then forward that obscure port to the standard port 5900 on the target Mac. WAN port 65500 - LAN port 5900 on husband's Mac. In the VNC Client, that you're using to connect to your home, simply tell it to use port 65500 instead of the default of 5900. Yea, it's an extra step. But in today's climate it's just NOT a good idea to leave your front door open! Excellent suggestions, thank you. I need to do this myself. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 08:05, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: On Jan 20, 1:34 pm, Tina K.penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/01/20 19:04, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? What about Screen Sharing in Core Services? That's what I use on the LAN, I've never done remote on the WAN though. I would think with proper configuration it would work (mainly enabling remote access and port forwarding to his PowerBook). Tina LAN means the local network, say in your house, with 2-3 computers connected by an Airport or router, correct? I tried to connect to my MacBookPro and the PowerBook from my new iMac using the GOConnect to Server. I kept getting a message that said incorrect password or user name and I KNOW they were correct. (I use the same one for all the computers.) So I could not connect with Screen Sharing. Also, would I have to be home to use the Screen Sharing? Ok, I finally logged into my 10.4 iMac remotely. In Tiger, you have to open the sharing pref pane, select Apple Remote Desktop, then click the Access Privileges... button. Select the user name you wish to use to login remotely in the top left box and then enable all the service check boxes that you need (I have no clue how to use the reports text msg services). Then, this is the important part, check the VNC viewers may control screen with password box and enter a password authenticate. I thought that leaving this box unchecked would allow you to connect and only have to login, but you have to have a password to even connect first which makes sense now that I think about it. Now you should be able to connect remotely over the LAN with Apple's Screen Sharing, Chicken, or Jolly's Fast VNC. To connect from outside your home network, you'll need to forward port 5900 to your husband's Mac in the router configuration. I think that's all it takes, someone please correct me if I've overlooked something. HTH, Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 20:02, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/01/21 09:50, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On the 'inside the house' side of the network you have a private, non-routing IP address range, your own LAN. Typically they're either 192.168.n.n or 10.n.n.n I've seen both in use by various brands of wired and wireless routers. You CANNOT access an address in these ranges from outside that address range; they're defined as 'non-routable' Routers reject any request to connect to those addresses. What? I can't speak from experience but isn't that exactly what port forwarding is for? Yes, aka NAT, what the rest of my post described , poorly,I guess. Not at all, it's just my density. ;-) Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 21, 11:50 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: Both new macs will let you use Screen Sharing to connect to his computer; he'll have to install a vnc server VINE server is free and easy. Bruce, Are you talking about accessing his computer from outside her network? Because I can access my Macs running Tiger from any other Mac running Leopard or Snow Leopard just with Screen Sharing --no need of additional software. Best, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 20, 9:15 pm, Robert MacLeay rmacl...@gmail.com wrote: Can he follow instructions? If so... Skype is free, and its screen-sharing function will let you see his screen on your own computer (it works cross-platform!) while you hold a conversation with him. You won't actually control his computer, but you can see what he's looking at, and he can see you demonstrate how to do something. On Jan 20, 7:04 pm, Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net wrote: My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane Robert, my husband is of the opinion that 2-3 clicks is better than only 1! G So I need to control the keyboard and do the fixing. Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 20, 1:34 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/01/20 19:04, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? What about Screen Sharing in Core Services? That's what I use on the LAN, I've never done remote on the WAN though. I would think with proper configuration it would work (mainly enabling remote access and port forwarding to his PowerBook). Tina LAN means the local network, say in your house, with 2-3 computers connected by an Airport or router, correct? I tried to connect to my MacBookPro and the PowerBook from my new iMac using the GOConnect to Server. I kept getting a message that said incorrect password or user name and I KNOW they were correct. (I use the same one for all the computers.) So I could not connect with Screen Sharing. Also, would I have to be home to use the Screen Sharing? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Jan 20, 1:34 pm, Tina K.penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/01/20 19:04, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? What about Screen Sharing in Core Services? That's what I use on the LAN, I've never done remote on the WAN though. I would think with proper configuration it would work (mainly enabling remote access and port forwarding to his PowerBook). Tina LAN means the local network, say in your house, with 2-3 computers connected by an Airport or router, correct? I tried to connect to my MacBookPro and the PowerBook from my new iMac using the GOConnect to Server. I kept getting a message that said incorrect password or user name and I KNOW they were correct. (I use the same one for all the computers.) So I could not connect with Screen Sharing. Also, would I have to be home to use the Screen Sharing? Jane You can achieve screen sharing between MacBooks iMacs with iChat - I am not sure if this is 10.5/10.6 only, but no doubt someone with greater experience knowledge than me (and that won't be too hard to achieve) will know if this extends back to 10.4 as well. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Jane, I would give LogMeIn a try. The lite version IS free, and it seems to do all you need --slapping your hubbie's hand every time he does the triple click dance will have to be postponed till you are home… :-) I checked on TeamViewer, out of curiosity, and couldn't find a free option at all. I have not tried either software, so I cannot say how well they work, but I have been meaning to give LogMeIn a try for years. As for Screen Sharing, have you enabled sharing on the other computers? That could be the issue. It seems silly, but those simple things are usually the ones we forget to do. The easiest way to enable Screen Sharing is from a Finder window, any window. You click on the sidebar icon of the computer you want to control remotely, then click on Share Screen, and follow the steps. It is one of the Leopard features I fell in love with from the very start. Best regards, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. Both new macs will let you use Screen Sharing to connect to his computer; he'll have to install a vnc server VINE server is free and easy. See: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10329842-263.html The biggest issue is connecting to HIS computer on your home network, which presumably goes through some sort of wired or wireless router. You need to set up some stuff in advance: Use DynDNS to give your home network connection a 'permanent' IP address. http://www.dyndns.com/ follow the 'free domain name' link. Set up NAT routing in your home router to his computer, whichinvolves giving his computer a fixed ip address in the router's range, and forwarding the VNC ports to that computer. Most home routers (including Airport) make this relatively easy, see your documentation. Simple home networking lesson: A 'router' is a device that connects local area networks (LAN's) together into a 'network of networks'. The 'Internet' is a very large such network of networks. Computers on the same LAN can talk directly to each other; computers on different LAN's need to talk through a router. This was really the key insight that made the internet possible. Virtually all home networks consist of an external router (cable/dsl modem, Fiber router for those lucky, lucky few to live in FiOS territory) that possesses the externally visible IP address of your internet connection. On the 'inside the house' side of the network you have a private, non-routing IP address range, your own LAN. Typically they're either 192.168.n.n or 10.n.n.n I've seen both in use by various brands of wired and wireless routers. You CANNOT access an address in these ranges from outside that address range; they're defined as 'non-routable' Routers reject any request to connect to those addresses. This poses a problem. If you have a large private network, and, say, a web server or a computer needing a VNC connection how do you bridge that unbridgeable gap between the single external IP address and the internal address given to that computer. This is what Network Address Translation (NAT) does. The router has the smarts to say I have a request on my public IP address for Port 80 connection (which is the http default port). I need to know which ip addresson my internal LAN handles these requests. It looks though it's table of port and IP addresses and if one address is set as the pone that responds to port 80 requests, then the connection is forwarded to that internal IP address. The requestor on the outside has no idea that it's talking to a computer on the internal LAN, all it ever sees is the external IP address. This is managed by giving the internal computer a fixed address on the internal LAN, then listing that address for 'port 80' requests (for a web server. Foir VNC it's port 5900) See: http://www.realvnc.com/support/portforward.html -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 08:00, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: Robert, my husband is of the opinion that 2-3 clicks is better than only 1!G So I need to control the keyboard and do the fixing. In that case he would probably love XP. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 09:50, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: Both new macs will let you use Screen Sharing to connect to his computer; he'll have to install a vnc server VINE server is free and easy. Tiger has a built in VNC server. I just tried to remote access my Tiger iMac from my SL MP and I'm getting the same problem with my name password not being accepted. I don't remember running into this problem before but I'll let you know if I get it to work. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx Commercial users are welcome to use these downloads for trial purposes. TeamViewer is free for all non-commercial users! I have been on this group a few months and saw this thread. By coincidence, I need to hook up with my sister whom I sent a PC (old work one, good riddance). But now she needs help. Never heard of TeamViewer until now, and it wasn't obvious that it was free till I saw this page. I just loaded to iPad, but not used it yet, need to walk her through how to load on her end. When I told her to right-click to download a PDF I sent her, nothing happened. My bad, she wrote click in the URL bar of browser. I am doomed. I'll add a note when I'm running with TeamViewer, it looks very promising. I checked on TeamViewer, out of curiosity, and couldn't find a free option at all. I have not tried either software, so I cannot say how well they work, but I have been meaning to give LogMeIn a try for years. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 21, 6:34 am, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to remote access my Tiger iMac from my SL MP and I'm getting the same problem with my name password not being accepted. I don't remember running into this problem before but I'll let you know if I get it to work. Tina, Check if the Tiger machine has sharing enabled: that's usually the only bump in the road when it comes to Screen Sharing, and it's often overlooked because, well, it's such a basic one. And you are so smart, you are giving us blondes a good name. We too often get the fuzzy end of the lollipop… Best, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
You know, the internal VNC function has a different password (assigned through a different pref) than the desktop password? It's accessed thru Sharingremote management computer setting I am on Leopard, so may be slightly different for you. On Jan 21, 2:42 pm, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 21, 6:34 am, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to remote access my Tiger iMac from my SL MP and I'm getting the same problem with my name password not being accepted. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 09:50, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On the 'inside the house' side of the network you have a private, non-routing IP address range, your own LAN. Typically they're either 192.168.n.n or 10.n.n.n I've seen both in use by various brands of wired and wireless routers. You CANNOT access an address in these ranges from outside that address range; they're defined as 'non-routable' Routers reject any request to connect to those addresses. What? I can't speak from experience but isn't that exactly what port forwarding is for? I thought that if you set up port forwarding to the target computer you could remotely connect to the modem which automatically passes it to the router, and the router being configured to forward traffic on that port to the target computer, does so. Am I missing something? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 12:42, Ashgrove so eloquently wrote: Check if the Tiger machine has sharing enabled: that's usually the only bump in the road when it comes to Screen Sharing, and it's often overlooked because, well, it's such a basic one. It has Personal File Sharing, Personal Web Sharing (which seems like it wouldn't matter but I remember that it needs to be enabled with Tiger), Remote Login (SSH I believe), and Apple Remote Desktop enabled. Access Privileges for Apple Remote Desktop has my name selected in the access list, initially the VNC viewers may control screen with password box was checked, unchecking it I could not connect, checking it and using the password I entered I still could not connect, even after a reboot. I'm almost positive I've remote controlled the iMac before but I don't seem able to do it now. And you are so smart, you are giving us blondes a good name. We too often get the fuzzy end of the lollipop… Thank you Felix. : Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/21 19:49, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I just noticed that in System PreferencesSharing, it also lists remote Remote Log in. Should that be enabled, too? Remote Login is for logging in via ssh through Terminal. It *shouldn't* need to be enabled, but then Web Sharing shouldn't be needed either but as I recall Web Sharing does need to be enabled. Sharing is one area where Tiger is a little weak. In order to share an internet connection for example, you have to turn the firewall off. Leopard is much improved and more logical when it comes to sharing. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/01/21 09:50, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On the 'inside the house' side of the network you have a private, non-routing IP address range, your own LAN. Typically they're either 192.168.n.n or 10.n.n.n I've seen both in use by various brands of wired and wireless routers. You CANNOT access an address in these ranges from outside that address range; they're defined as 'non-routable' Routers reject any request to connect to those addresses. What? I can't speak from experience but isn't that exactly what port forwarding is for? Yes, aka NAT, what the rest of my post described , poorly,I guess. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Is LogMeIn the answer?
My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Hi, I use TeamViewer for things like this. Its quick and easy and you can use it for more than just fixing computers (it has a presentation mode). Best of all its free for personal use. Albert Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:04:53 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Is LogMeIn the answer? My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Logmein has a free version that should work fine. Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
On 2011/01/20 19:04, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? What about Screen Sharing in Core Services? That's what I use on the LAN, I've never done remote on the WAN though. I would think with proper configuration it would work (mainly enabling remote access and port forwarding to his PowerBook). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Can he follow instructions? If so... Skype is free, and its screen-sharing function will let you see his screen on your own computer (it works cross-platform!) while you hold a conversation with him. You won't actually control his computer, but you can see what he's looking at, and he can see you demonstrate how to do something. On Jan 20, 7:04 pm, Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net wrote: My husband uses a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.11. I have a new iMac (10.6.6) and a MacBook Pro (10.5.x). He is NOT computer literate and needs help from time to time. Some of those times, I am not at home to take care of the problems. I know there is software out there -- preferably free--- that will enable me to fix his computer no matter where I am. I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
