Re: Mouse Question
On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I got my hands on a Logitech Cordless Optical mouse (FCC ID: JNZ201759) Can it be used with my Quicksilver (G4 running OS X 10.4.11) Yes. Out of the box it will work as a basic mouse. Logitech has software for the Mac, too. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I got my hands on a Logitech Cordless Optical mouse (FCC ID: JNZ201759) Can it be used with my Quicksilver (G4 running OS X 10.4.11) An addendum to my previous answer. More generally, ANY USB pointing device will function in OS X, at least in a basic fashion. I had someone bring over a box full of old Mac stuff to surplus (a ton of Phone-Net cables, some SCSI-Ethernet adapters, etc.) and among them was a Cirque Glidepoint ADB trackpad (discontinued since OS 8.6 times). I happened to have a ADB-USB iMate adapter around, plugged it in and lo and behold, it worked. Only one button was recognized, even with USB overdrive, and it tracked kind of slowly, but it worked. Any typical USB two-button+scrollwheel PC mouse will also work with full functionality out of the box on OS X, the left button clicks, the right control-clicks and the scroll wheel scrolls. I've also never run into a wireless mouse that didn't work. I suspect that if you get a monstrosity like this http://warmouse.com/ you'll need drivers, but IMO you'll also need your head examined! Note: That thing sticking out of the side of the mouse, where your thumb would go? That is a joystick. Yes. A joystick ON a mouse. Even Dr. Moreau would declare this an experiment too far. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
Bruce Johnson wrote: snip That is a joystick. Yes. A joystick ON a mouse. Even Dr. Moreau would declare this an experiment too far. ROFLMAO Thanks Bruce, your last sentence really brightened a dull day... (I'm stuck at home getting over swine flu but still tele-working...) Keep the wit coming. Ted PS Who in Heaven's name would use such a thing? What was the designer on? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
At 10:01 PM -0600 11/26/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: I got my hands on a Logitech Cordless Optical mouse (FCC ID: JNZ201759) Can it be used with my Quicksilver (G4 running OS X 10.4.11) I love Logitech mice! Just hook it up. It should work immediately. For the rest of the features, you'll need to install their software. It's buggy tho -- see the recent Mouse problem thread on this mailing list, for details of how to handle it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Any typical USB two-button+scrollwheel PC mouse will also work with full functionality out of the box on OS X, the left button clicks, the right control-clicks and the scroll wheel scrolls. I've also never run into a wireless mouse that didn't work. I have a few 5 button mice (regular 2+scroll wheel and two buttons on the left side or one on either side) and they work perfectly in the Dashboard Expose prefs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
On Nov 27, 1:22 pm, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Any typical USB two-button+scrollwheel PC mouse will also work with full functionality out of the box on OS X, the left button clicks, the right control-clicks and the scroll wheel scrolls. I've also never run into a wireless mouse that didn't work. Even this: http://www.amazon.com/Targus-AMB08US-Bluetooth-Laser-Mouse/dp/B001HQDFAS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1259368628sr=8-3 with optical side-scrolling worked out of the box. The only thing the Targus software does is enable the buttons (which only work in Safari). And it beats the heck out of those wheel-scrollers! 8-) V Mabus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mouse Question
I got my hands on a Logitech Cordless Optical mouse (FCC ID: JNZ201759) Can it be used with my Quicksilver (G4 running OS X 10.4.11) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
Do you have the USB dongle? If so, yes. (No harm in plugging it in and trying ;) On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I got my hands on a Logitech Cordless Optical mouse (FCC ID: JNZ201759) Can it be used with my Quicksilver (G4 running OS X 10.4.11) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net wrote: Stephen Conrad wrote: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey Stephen, Did this set up work before? I had 1 USB 4 Port Hub on one USB port and the KB on another If not, are you piggy backing 2 hubs to one USB port in the computer? Nope, each is on is own (each 4 port hub) Also another thing would be are they 1.1 USB ports or 2.0? No idea. Here are their model numbers F5U014-OE ( http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:TJwCsGlzYBUJ:www.belkin.com/support/download/download.asp%3Fdownload%3DF5U014-OE%26lang%3D1%26mode%3D+F5U014-OEcd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=usclient=safari ) A search of their site finds me nothing thus the Google cache site 2nd one http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=93743 The camera and or the opt mouse might need a 2.0 USB port, and this might be your problem? The Mouse is a Logitech LX3 Optical Mouse Is this a laptop or a tower? Tower. A Mac G4 Quicksilver If it's a tower you might be able to add more USB ports and I would go with the 2.0... I am looking into this. Anyone? Another thing I would plug all the hubs into the power strip so they are all free from the bus!!! Find me a DC 5V cord and I will put the first mentioned hob on it Try powering all these things alone off the computer USB port to rule out any bad hardware (opti mouse, camera and thumbs)... If they all work then the problem is the hubs or they way they are set up... Before I added the 2nd Hub I never saw this problem. Do you have a powered zip drive, or 5vdc netgear hub? borrow the wall wart to test with if plug fits. Too bad u r in Philly I would of loaned you one I have in Oklahoma. Nope, at least none with a power cord. I tried a different USB Hub but no luck (Mouse which is plugged in KB worked but not the KB) 4 Port USB 2.0 Hub inland www.inland-products.com MA3303 9barcode) Made in China 2005143727 -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mouse Question
OK, I plugged my Logitech Optical Mouse into my KB which is plugged into my Belkin 4 Port USB Hub and sometimes I see the light on the bottom of the mouse flash off then on. Sometimes all 4 lights (for the ports) flash off and then back on. It was plugged into my computer but I plugged 2 of my 3 4 Port USB Hubs into the computer. The Belkin is plugged into a power strip so it is not using Bus Power to power it. In case it helps here is what is plugged in: Belkin - My KB and sometimes a camera (not plugged in now) Other 4 Port USB Hub - 3 USB Thumb Drives Any ideas? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mouse Question
Hey Stephen, Did this set up work before? If not, are you piggy backing 2 hubs to one USB port in the computer? Also another thing would be are they 1.1 USB ports or 2.0? The camera and or the opt mouse might need a 2.0 USB port, and this might be your problem? Is this a laptop or a tower? If it's a tower you might be able to add more USB ports and I would go with the 2.0... Another thing I would plug all the hubs into the power strip so they are all free from the bus!!! Try powering all these things alone off the computer USB port to rule out any bad hardware (opti mouse, camera and thumbs)... If they all work then the problem is the hubs or they way they are set up... CoolKat -Original Message- From: Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 4, 2009 9:33 PM To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Mouse Question OK, I plugged my Logitech Optical Mouse into my KB which is plugged into my Belkin 4 Port USB Hub and sometimes I see the light on the bottom of the mouse flash off then on. Sometimes all 4 lights (for the ports) flash off and then back on. It was plugged into my computer but I plugged 2 of my 3 4 Port USB Hubs into the computer. The Belkin is plugged into a power strip so it is not using Bus Power to power it. In case it helps here is what is plugged in: Belkin - My KB and sometimes a camera (not plugged in now) Other 4 Port USB Hub - 3 USB Thumb Drives Any ideas? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mouse Question
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey Stephen, Did this set up work before? I had 1 USB 4 Port Hub on one USB port and the KB on another If not, are you piggy backing 2 hubs to one USB port in the computer? Nope, each is on is own (each 4 port hub) Also another thing would be are they 1.1 USB ports or 2.0? No idea. Here are their model numbers F5U014-OE ( http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:TJwCsGlzYBUJ:www.belkin.com/support/download/download.asp%3Fdownload%3DF5U014-OE%26lang%3D1%26mode%3D+F5U014-OEcd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=usclient=safari ) A search of their site finds me nothing thus the Google cache site 2nd one http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=93743 The camera and or the opt mouse might need a 2.0 USB port, and this might be your problem? The Mouse is a Logitech LX3 Optical Mouse Is this a laptop or a tower? Tower. A Mac G4 Quicksilver If it's a tower you might be able to add more USB ports and I would go with the 2.0... I am looking into this. Anyone? Another thing I would plug all the hubs into the power strip so they are all free from the bus!!! Find me a DC 5V cord and I will put the first mentioned hob on it Try powering all these things alone off the computer USB port to rule out any bad hardware (opti mouse, camera and thumbs)... If they all work then the problem is the hubs or they way they are set up... Before I added the 2nd Hub I never saw this problem. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mouse Question
Stephen Conrad wrote: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey Stephen, Did this set up work before? I had 1 USB 4 Port Hub on one USB port and the KB on another If not, are you piggy backing 2 hubs to one USB port in the computer? Nope, each is on is own (each 4 port hub) Also another thing would be are they 1.1 USB ports or 2.0? No idea. Here are their model numbers F5U014-OE ( http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:TJwCsGlzYBUJ:www.belkin.com/support/download/download.asp%3Fdownload%3DF5U014-OE%26lang%3D1%26mode%3D+F5U014-OEcd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=usclient=safari ) A search of their site finds me nothing thus the Google cache site 2nd one http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=93743 The camera and or the opt mouse might need a 2.0 USB port, and this might be your problem? The Mouse is a Logitech LX3 Optical Mouse Is this a laptop or a tower? Tower. A Mac G4 Quicksilver If it's a tower you might be able to add more USB ports and I would go with the 2.0... I am looking into this. Anyone? Another thing I would plug all the hubs into the power strip so they are all free from the bus!!! Find me a DC 5V cord and I will put the first mentioned hob on it Try powering all these things alone off the computer USB port to rule out any bad hardware (opti mouse, camera and thumbs)... If they all work then the problem is the hubs or they way they are set up... Before I added the 2nd Hub I never saw this problem. Do you have a powered zip drive, or 5vdc netgear hub? borrow the wall wart to test with if plug fits. Too bad u r in Philly I would of loaned you one I have in Oklahoma. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---