Re: [G3-5]Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On 5/28/09 3:45 PM, dc at dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I ran Monolingual to get rid of all unneeded languages and also the G3 Intel architechtures Where can I get this program? Is it free? Does it work under 10.4? I¹m asking this because sometimes I feel a little squeezed on a 7.7GB partition (I¹ve got a Beige G3). -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 29, 2009, at 4:29 AM, MaGioZal wrote: Where can I get this program? Is it free? Does it work under 10.4? http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/ I’m asking this because sometimes I feel a little squeezed on a 7.7GB partition (I’ve got a Beige G3). You don't need to be squeezed onto that tiny 7.7GB partition. Clone your System over to your largest partition outside the 1st 8GB partition, but still within the 128GB limit. If your HD is larger that 128GB you can also use the whole thing, but you need to either use the Intech Hi-Cap extension or do the LBA48 open firmware hack. Once you've cloned your OS onto the larger partition, use XPostFacto 4.0 and select the larger partition OS at the boot System, and any partition within the 1st 8 GB as the helper disk and you can now boot from the big partition. The helper disk partition can be small, as little as perhaps 100MB, but if you don't have a small dedicated helper partition, you can also just use your 7.7GB partition as the helper. You should always boot the largest available partition. My Beige has a 160GB HD partitioned as 1GB, 7GB (both within the 1st 8GB), 112GB (at the EXACT 128GB limit of 131,072MB) and the remaining 22GB outside the 128GB limit. I have OS 9.1 on the 1GB partition which I also use as the helper to boot OS 10.4.11 from the largest 112GB partition. I also have OS 10.4.11 on the 7GB partition so I can boot OS X directly without a helper as a just-in-case repair volume that has DiskWarrior and other utilities for fixing the large partition should anything go wrong. I use the 22GB as storage space only. For many years I booted from Firewire external HDs on the Beige using the XPF Helper Disk boot method. This has the advantage of being able to use large HDs without the 1st 8GB limit. I booted a 250GB Firewire external HD regularly until I needed it for my Mini. If you need a larger HD to boot from, I'd recommend booting from an external Firewire HD using the Helper Disk boot method. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: And for those who do not care for tinyurl, here it is via another shortener: http://www.socuteurl.com/popopuppysaur WTF? Hello Kitty URL? X-P -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is selectable. Mark Murphy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
10.4.11 is as far as you can go without shelling out for 10.5 On May 28, 2009, at 12:06 pm, m.smurph001 wrote: I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is selectable. Mark Murphy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
. . . but don't bother spending the money! On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or more. 10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
optimised is not bold world for 10.5 anything faster than 1000 Mhz or dual cpu above 800 Mhz can handle this 10.5 No slowing down, if exist it will be %4 If possible just add rams... If possible change video card higher it will be same with 10.4, especially on dual cpu machines. I am using 10.5 with Powerbook 1.33 It is slow 4200 rpm drive... All productivity task (iwork 09) and internet, and divx are fast... Finder is fast... Be aware,after upgrade indexing makes huge load... Try clean install and let it go with indexing after. It will getting normal usage in 1 day. 2009/5/28 artemis jmil...@aapt.net.au . . . but don't bother spending the money! On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or more. 10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
I have Leopard on a DP 533 MHz digital audio G4 and it's not so bad. After installing, running system updates, installing apps and utilities I ran Monolingual to get rid of all unneeded languages and also the G3 Intel architechtures; that trimmed over 2 GB off Leopard and it runs pretty well. On May 28, 10:56 am, artemis jmil...@aapt.net.au wrote: . . . but don't bother spending the money! On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or more. 10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Baha Ata wrote: No slowing down, if exist it will be %4 This is wrong! It averages over 20%. I am using 10.5 with Powerbook 1.33 On your specific model, the PowerBook 1.33 GHz, the highest Xbench 1.3 score of all time was 50.28 for a PowerBook 1.33 GHz running 10.4.11: http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=325679 The highest score for a 1.33 GHz running any version of 10.5 Leopard is 43.33: http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=365967 This is over 16% faster for Tiger than Leopard! Across all models, PPC Macs are at least 20% faster using Tiger over Leopard. GeekBench scores are similar to Xbench, so they confirm each other's validity. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=365967 This is over 16% faster for Tiger than Leopard! Across all models, PPC Macs are at least 20% faster using Tiger over Leopard. GeekBench scores are similar to Xbench, so they confirm each other's validity. And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. Benchmarks should only ever be guidelines, not hard and fast rules. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. It may be fine, but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. DVD's and Youtubes play perfectly fine on my 1GHZ DVI Powerbook. Don't know what you mean 'full resolution video'; do you mean 1080p HD? If so, I really doubt it. But aagin, as I said, it depends on what you're doing with it. Web browsing, writing, iPhoto and suchlike on the road, and I'm very happy with having a working Spotlight, Spaces and suchlike. For you, it's not worth it, for me it's just fine, as well as very handy to have all my systems at the same OS level. This is why I recommend against blanket pronouncements like yours that 'Never run 10.5 on a PPC machine!' because it just doesn't hold water. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
simply... stop... anybody have faster than 1 Ghz cpu and over 1 GB ram.. clean install leopard, if large discs let it open and active 2 days... it will be workable and good. you do not use G4 for editining commercial movies so benchmarks? forget it. all productive programs other than office (even in tiger ofiice is slow) work as tiger... If your graphic card is good... certainly leopard is ok. 2009/5/29 Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. It may be fine, but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
there is no machine 1.58 Ghz mini.. is it overclocked and in hot condition? is it fnished indexing? 2009/5/29 Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. It may be fine, but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
totally agree with bruce... if you have desktop eaven i recçommend if you need consider graphic card and ram upgrade... it will give you a good machine and it jill be on time. 2009/5/29 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On May 28, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. DVD's and Youtubes play perfectly fine on my 1GHZ DVI Powerbook. Don't know what you mean 'full resolution video'; do you mean 1080p HD? If so, I really doubt it. But aagin, as I said, it depends on what you're doing with it. Web browsing, writing, iPhoto and suchlike on the road, and I'm very happy with having a working Spotlight, Spaces and suchlike. For you, it's not worth it, for me it's just fine, as well as very handy to have all my systems at the same OS level. This is why I recommend against blanket pronouncements like yours that 'Never run 10.5 on a PPC machine!' because it just doesn't hold water. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
you giving 500 Mb ram benchmarks... i said 1 GB ram minimal... i can agree with you if 500 MB ram if i have... i mean 1 GB ram and above is a must with at least Nvdia 5200 64 Mb and more (i do not test it above i cannot give gurantee) But with this sepcs all productivity software will run like tiger... 2009/5/29 Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com totally agree with bruce... if you have desktop eaven i recçommend if you need consider graphic card and ram upgrade... it will give you a good machine and it jill be on time. 2009/5/29 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu On May 28, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. DVD's and Youtubes play perfectly fine on my 1GHZ DVI Powerbook. Don't know what you mean 'full resolution video'; do you mean 1080p HD? If so, I really doubt it. But aagin, as I said, it depends on what you're doing with it. Web browsing, writing, iPhoto and suchlike on the road, and I'm very happy with having a working Spotlight, Spaces and suchlike. For you, it's not worth it, for me it's just fine, as well as very handy to have all my systems at the same OS level. This is why I recommend against blanket pronouncements like yours that 'Never run 10.5 on a PPC machine!' because it just doesn't hold water. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Baha Ata -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
i can give you one reason... small reason Filezilla... the best ftp program for me on windows and mac os simple and relieable... Free! 2009/5/29 Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. It may be fine, but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 4:06 am, m.smurph001 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is selectable. Mark Murphy Just install 10.4.11 again, even that 10.4.11 get/got upgraded since it's release in Nov 14 2007 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
So If I am reading this correctly, 10.4.11 is as far as 10.4 goes. At Apple's site there are upgrades all the way up to 10.4.7 which are listed as combo, ppc, and intel. I've tried downloading various flavors of these and they won't work. I do have a 1.6 ghz accellerator in this Digital Audio G4. I used to run 10.3 and every so often I would get upgrades that finally took my system to 10.3.9. Using system updater got a bunch of security updates and some other upgrades but now it tells me I have nothing to upgrade. I don't understand. How far does 10.4 go? On May 28, 7:06 am, m.smurph001 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is selectable. Mark Murphy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On my Digital Audio G4 with 733mhz and 1.25 GB RAM leopard ran significantly slower than Tiger did. My DA in leopard benchmarked at 25 while in tiger i would get roughly around 34. User interface lag was noticeable when just opening folders and menus in leopard. While im sure leopard is fine for some PPC machines i would not recommend it on anything lower than 1ghz. Then again this has already been recommended. Just throwing my experience out there. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: i can give you one reason... small reason Filezilla... the best ftp program for me on windows and mac os simple and relieable... Free! 2009/5/29 Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. It may be fine, but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, smac0031 wrote: So If I am reading this correctly, 10.4.11 is as far as 10.4 goes. At Apple's site there are upgrades all the way up to 10.4.7 which are listed as combo, ppc, and intel. I've tried downloading various flavors of these and they won't work. You don't understand. The 10.4.11 isn't ten point four point one one, it's ten point four point ELEVEN. Eleven comes AFTER 10.4.7, 10.4.8, 10.4.9, and 10.4.10. 10.4.11 was supposed to be the final 10.4 update, but that latest Security Update of 168 MB is close to being a 10.4.12 without the moniker. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 7:47 PM, smac0031 wrote: and some other upgrades but now it tells me I have nothing to upgrade. I don't understand. How far does 10.4 go? 10.3 is Panther (10.3.9 top level) 10.4 is Tiger (10.4.11 top level) 10.5 is Leopard (10.5.7 current top level) There was a Security Update for 10.4.11 recently, as well as a Safari and maybe iTunes, components of each OS X. But 10.4.11 was the last major system upgrade for 10.4. You cannot do a 10.4.6 upgrade to a 10.4.11. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
Also no stock digital audio meets the requirements to install leopard directly from CD which is probably why it isnt letting you select your hard drive. If you really want to attempt a install try using leopard assist which will bypass the 867mhz processor check. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM, J Beaver csf...@gmail.com wrote: On my Digital Audio G4 with 733mhz and 1.25 GB RAM leopard ran significantly slower than Tiger did. My DA in leopard benchmarked at 25 while in tiger i would get roughly around 34. User interface lag was noticeable when just opening folders and menus in leopard. While im sure leopard is fine for some PPC machines i would not recommend it on anything lower than 1ghz. Then again this has already been recommended. Just throwing my experience out there. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: i can give you one reason... small reason Filezilla... the best ftp program for me on windows and mac os simple and relieable... Free! 2009/5/29 Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do with my computer, it's perfectly fine. It may be fine, but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 7:47 PM, smac0031 wrote: So If I am reading this correctly, 10.4.11 is as far as 10.4 goes. At Apple's site there are upgrades all the way up to 10.4.7 which are listed as combo, ppc, and intel. I've tried downloading various flavors of these and they won't work. Here is the Apple link for the ppc 10.4.11 combo which will work to bring any version of 10.4 up to 10.4.11. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdateppc.html And for those who do not care for tinyurl, here it is via another shortener: http://www.socuteurl.com/popopuppysaur There are some security updates, but no .12s, so run software update after installing 10.4.11. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
