Re: iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
Why is it either iPhone 5 or Android? There are other alternatives: 1. Use iCloud. iOS 5 and 6 don't need iTunes or a computer. 2. Use an iPhone 4 or iPhone 4S instead of Android. I have a 4S and see no compelling reason to get a 5. Dave -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
The S3 has both a microsd (64 Gb capacity cards) and a microusb slot. If I attach the latter to the mac, will the phone appear as a storage volume? Dave: Good idea, but, as you said, one is wasting time sending an email or letter to Apple. I think they are convinced that they are fully justified in cutting off some small segment of their "loyal" customers. The "bottom line", after all. wn -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
> Many thanks, Cameron. I tend to agree -- can't imagine having a faster > computer than my G5 dual 2.3 GHz and am very annoyed at Apple for not > supporting their own 5 year old OS 5 while still supporting a 10 year > old Windows OS! > > Do you know whether the Galaxy S3 will work with a PPC mac? (I know > nothing about Android.) I am particularly interested in things like > full backup and restore, which is extremely difficult with an iPhone > without computer support (Frankly, I can use iCloud for the syncing of > an iPhone, but a full backup/restore requires a computer.) There are a number of Android utilities that will backup the phone to internal storage (they actually run on the phone itself). If your phone has a microSD slot, then it simply appears as USB Mass Storage to the Power Mac, and you can copy anything on the card in that slot (including any backups you have made) directly to the Mac. If the phone does not have microSD, like the Galaxy Nexus, you have to use MTP which is a little trickier, but should still work. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Kind of dangerous, but what fun is a safe shredder? -- Mike McFadden --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
Many thanks, Cameron. I tend to agree -- can't imagine having a faster computer than my G5 dual 2.3 GHz and am very annoyed at Apple for not supporting their own 5 year old OS 5 while still supporting a 10 year old Windows OS! Do you know whether the Galaxy S3 will work with a PPC mac? (I know nothing about Android.) I am particularly interested in things like full backup and restore, which is extremely difficult with an iPhone without computer support (Frankly, I can use iCloud for the syncing of an iPhone, but a full backup/restore requires a computer.) Thanks again. Warren N -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Warren Nagourney wrote: > The new iPhone 5 can no longer be used with a PPC mac, since the minimum OS > is 10.6.8. I obviously have two options. > > Either I can submit to Apple's blackmail and buy an intel Mac that I don't > need in order to use the new phone. Or, I can consider an Android phone. > Frankly, I am very reluctant to do the first, since my dual core G5 is very > fast and nothing I do will be appreciably improved by spending $1000+ on a > new Mac. Furthermore, the new Mac would require me to spend $2500 to upgrade > the software -- I need to use a high end CAD program which has a very > expensive upgrade. > > The other alternative is buying an Android phone. I liked the iPhone > hardware, but have some misgivings about the OS (no file system, Apple's > control freakery, etc). While the iPad is clearly best in class, I am not > that sure about the iPhone. > > Does anyone have a suggestion? > > Thanks! > > Warren Nagourney Not that it will make an ounce of difference to Apple management, but I would suggest you buy an Android phone, keep using your G5 PowerMac as long as you want to, and also write a letter, or email to Apple in protest of their policies to drop support for their computers so soon, while they are still useful and productive. The fact that Apple is already dropping support for even some of their Intel powered computers in some ways already is ridiculous in my point of view. I don't expect them to support their products past the point where they can be useful any more, but clearly many people still want to use their late model G4 and most G5 Mac computers. Certainly owners of the early Intel powered Mac computers must have expected to be able to use them fully without giving up any features that are available to newer Mac models today. (don't ask me what features, I can't remember, but it was something posted on this list) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
> The new iPhone 5 can no longer be used with a PPC mac, since the > minimum OS is 10.6.8. I obviously have two options. > > Either I can submit to Apple's blackmail and buy an intel Mac that I > don't need in order to use the new phone. Or, I can consider an > Android phone. Frankly, I am very reluctant to do the first, since my > dual core G5 is very fast and nothing I do will be appreciably > improved by spending $1000+ on a new Mac. Furthermore, the new Mac > would require me to spend $2500 to upgrade the software -- I need to > use a high end CAD program which has a very expensive upgrade. > > The other alternative is buying an Android phone. I liked the iPhone > hardware, but have some misgivings about the OS (no file system, > Apple's control freakery, etc). While the iPad is clearly best in > class, I am not that sure about the iPhone. > > Does anyone have a suggestion? I switched to Android when Apple stopped supporting 10.4 with iOS. If you stick to Nexus devices, you get a solid phone with at least 2 major Android versions and prompt updates. The only downside of my Galaxy Nexus is that it only connects with MTP (the PTP support in OS X doesn't work right with it for transferring images), but I believe there is an MTP for 10.5.8 PPC from Google (I'm writing my own MTP sync system with libmtp for the command line, which is something I *can't* do with an iPhone). Strictly speaking, it doesn't even need to do that; it "just works." I don't see why I should jettison my perfectly good quad G5 just to stay on the Apple iOS treadmill. And, with Android, I don't have to. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- /etc/motd: /earth is 98% full. please delete anyone you can. --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iPhone 5 and PPC macs -- what to do?
The new iPhone 5 can no longer be used with a PPC mac, since the minimum OS is 10.6.8. I obviously have two options. Either I can submit to Apple's blackmail and buy an intel Mac that I don't need in order to use the new phone. Or, I can consider an Android phone. Frankly, I am very reluctant to do the first, since my dual core G5 is very fast and nothing I do will be appreciably improved by spending $1000+ on a new Mac. Furthermore, the new Mac would require me to spend $2500 to upgrade the software -- I need to use a high end CAD program which has a very expensive upgrade. The other alternative is buying an Android phone. I liked the iPhone hardware, but have some misgivings about the OS (no file system, Apple's control freakery, etc). While the iPad is clearly best in class, I am not that sure about the iPhone. Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks! Warren Nagourney -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
