Re: google spam

[Charles Lenington]

On 9/17/15 4:51 PM, 'Glen' via G-Group wrote:
A couple of year ago I received  call from a guy "from Google" who 
wanted to update my business site (now retired) . He had a good 
presentation and I let him run is pitch. He even used FLASH to to take 
control of my browser showing me how he could improve the site. When I 
said I was not interested he got agressive an ended up saying Google 
would take down my site if I did not agree to his proposition.


I told "OK take it down" and hung it. --glen




That was my impression. I don't have a current business. told him to get 
lost.






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Re: google spam

['Glen' via G-Group]

A couple of year ago I received  call from a guy "from Google" who wanted to 
update my business site (now retired) . He had a good presentation and I let 
him run is pitch. He even used FLASH to to take control of my browser showing 
me how he could improve the site. When I said I was not interested he got 
agressive an ended up saying Google would take down my site if I did not agree 
to his proposition.
I told "OK take it down" and hung it. --glen
  From: Charles Lenington 
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:24 PM
 Subject: google spam
   
Has anyone received phone calls from google wanting to set up a business 
account/web site?

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Re: google spam

[Kris Tilford]

On Sep 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Charles Lenington  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone received phone calls from google wanting to set up a business 
> account/web site?

These are fake. Bunch of companies doing this, Google tries to stop it…

>

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google spam

[Charles Lenington]

Has anyone received phone calls from google wanting to set up a business 
account/web site?


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Re: Odd spam emails

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:42 AM, JohnV  wrote:

> I've been getting spam emails (that make it through Verizon;s otherwise 
> pretty brutal filters) that have the NAMES of people I have email and 
> facebook contact with, but the EMAIL ADDRESS is -not- from them. these are 
> typical one-line come-on messages like "hey! you need to look at this!" lines 
> followed by a URL. at first I thought these people's emails had been hacked 
> and I was on that list but I'm wondering if there's any way it could be ME 
> being hacked, either through my machines here (all macs) or through facebook…?

No. if YOU were hacked the spammers would actually be careful not to send their 
crap to you…the object of getting hacked these days is to use your system as a 
means to send spam or steal information from you.

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Re: Odd spam emails

[Cameron Kaiser]

> I've been getting spam emails (that make it through Verizon;s  
> otherwise pretty brutal filters) that have the NAMES of people I have  
> email and facebook contact with, but the EMAIL ADDRESS is -not- from  
> them. these are typical one-line come-on messages like "hey! you need  
> to look at this!" lines followed by a URL. at first I thought these  
> people's emails had been hacked and I was on that list but I'm  
> wondering if there's any way it could be ME being hacked, either  
> through my machines here (all macs) or through facebook...?

No, it's probably them. Just don't click on the links.

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Odd spam emails

[JohnV]

I've been getting spam emails (that make it through Verizon;s  
otherwise pretty brutal filters) that have the NAMES of people I have  
email and facebook contact with, but the EMAIL ADDRESS is -not- from  
them. these are typical one-line come-on messages like "hey! you need  
to look at this!" lines followed by a URL. at first I thought these  
people's emails had been hacked and I was on that list but I'm  
wondering if there's any way it could be ME being hacked, either  
through my machines here (all macs) or through facebook...?


John V


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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[Dan]

At 4:21 PM -0700 6/25/2012, glen wrote:
My business email account is web based Yahoo Mail and I could not 
find a way to check the all the headers.


On Yahoo! webmail, view the mail message.  Then pull down the tool 
(gear) menu and select "View Full Header".


Yahoo's presentation leaves a lot to be desired.  Ok, that's being 
polite.  It outright sucks.  To rebuild the full email, you have to 
copy the headers from the pop-up window, paste them into another app 
(such as TextEdit) then go back and copy the rest of the email and 
paste it.  Lame, very lame.  (Can you tell I absolutely hate webmail?)


Very disturbing when spammers are accessing your friends and 
business associates email addresses.


Disturbing?  Why?  This was big news 10 years ago.  Today it's  eh.

The service providers are under attack.  Old news.  They do the 
basics to protect the users, but eventually the robots get in.  Of 
course, it helps considerably when the users go out of their way to 
select easily crackable passwords.


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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[glen]

- Original Message -

> From: Dan 
>
> At 4:02 PM -0700 6/22/2012, glen wrote:
>>  My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and 
> can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else 
> do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords???
> 
> Well, that depends on where the breach occurred, of course.  If the spammer 
> harvested an address book (or just grabbed From addresses) from the Yahoo 
> server, then that's all they have.  But if they had full access to your 
> computer (as a Mac, not likely) ... or if they had full access to your 
> friend's computer (as a PC, quite quite likely) then all bets are off...  
> Once you have access, it's trivial to grab up turbotax files, cookie 
> databases, etc.
> 
- Original Message -
> From: "t...@nehaia.dk" 

> please do remember to tell your clients to change their passwords too
> 
> on the mail servers I'm working with, the most frequent reason for out
> going spam is caused by peoples accounts have been taken over by spammer
> due to weak passwords
> 

 Follow up: -- Just  received a second spoofed spam from a business client sent 
to my business address. My business email account is web based Yahoo Mail and I 
could not find a way to check the all the headers. However I could check who 
else it was sent to.

This client is in the entertainment business and many of the 24 other addresses 
the spam was sent to have local entertainment venue domain names which I have 
never emailed. So it looks like it was my client's email Yahoo account that was 
compromised and the spam was sent to local addresses on his computer.

Switching gears, reviewing my friend's spam send to my personal 
glenst...@yahoo.com address I found the six other addresses the spam was sent 
to match addresses of family members and other friends of the friend. And once 
again no one I ever sent an email to. So I looks like the friends Yahoo account 
was also compromised.

Very disturbing when spammers are accessing your friends and business 
associates email addresses. Thanks once again to all. And as Tina suggests use 
strong passwords on all your accounts. --glen

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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[Dan]

At 4:02 PM -0700 6/22/2012, glen wrote:
My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address 
book and can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email 
address what else do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank 
accounts, passwords???


Well, that depends on where the breach occurred, of course.  If the 
spammer harvested an address book (or just grabbed From addresses) 
from the Yahoo server, then that's all they have.  But if they had 
full access to your computer (as a Mac, not likely) ... or if they 
had full access to your friend's computer (as a PC, quite quite 
likely) then all bets are off...  Once you have access, it's trivial 
to grab up turbotax files, cookie databases, etc.


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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[tina]

Den Lørdag, 23/6 2012, 01:02, glen skrev:

> My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and
> can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else
> do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords???
>
> Dan and Doug, thanks for you help and  I will definitely change many
> passwords. --glen

please do remember to tell your clients to change their passwords too

on the mail servers I'm working with, the most frequent reason for out
going spam is caused by peoles accounts have been taken over by spammer
due to weak passwords

/tina

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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[glen]

- Original Message -
> From: Doug McNutt 
> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns
> 
> At 00:26 -0400 6/22/12, Dan wrote:
>
>> 
>> Which spam folder - the one in your local mail client or the one on 
> Yahoo's service?
>> 
>> If the former then your Yahoo service isn't doing its job.


MY REPLY: It is the one on Yahoo service.

>> 
>> OTGH, it's possible your conclusions as to the origins of the emails are 
> incorrect.  Them spammers is getting awfully good at forging things these 
> days.  
> Can't tell without seeing 'em tho, including complete headers.


> Dan's comment on needing full headers is important.  You can look at the 
> headers yourself. Email clients regularly suppress headers that they think 
> are 
> not important but, though the button may be hidden pretty well, they can all 
> be 
> asked to show you the whole thing.

MY REPLY: I will check the complete headers.
 
> My email host adds headers that are derived from SpamAssassin, software used 
> by 
> them on all mail, which can often have something to say about irregularities 
> in 
> the message.
> 
> But headers can also be faked.  The ones fully trustworthy are added last 
> while 
> the message is enroute. The last Received: header is most likely correct. The 
> From: header is generated entirely by the sender and can easily be a lie.
> 
> It is also possible that your friends' machines have been infected with 
> malware that turns them into a robot which regularly calls a bad machine on 
> the 
> net and receives messages that it will copy out to perhaps hundreds of 
> recipients. That is best fixed by removing the bad stuff from your friend's 
> machine which, as Dan says, is unlikely to be a Mac or other UNIX-based 
> machine.
> 
> Try looking at the full headers in suspected messages. They're pretty much 
> readable text.  You might even discover something in common that you can use 
> as 
> a filter.
> 
> But then you might discover that Yahoo itself deliberately makes that 
> difficult. 
> They do have some strange ideas that have bothered me. Reading mail over an 
> HTTP 
> link with a browser does limit your options.

This could the problem or at least part of it.

I forgot to mention that there are two Yahoo email addresses involved,  the 
glenstrek address I use on list and info@[my business name].com which is a low 
end commercial domain name also hosted hosted by Yahoo.

One strange thing is the 2 or 3 spams to the business email addresses are 
clients I have done no business with recently and have done little business 
with over the years. These are good folks, repeat customers that just do not 
need my services that often. In addition one these spams was found in the Yahoo 
spam folder.

Next time this happens I will definitely check the full headers and report back 
if necessary.

My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and can 
send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else do they 
know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords???

Dan and Doug, thanks for you help and  I will definitely change many passwords. 
--glen

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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[Doug McNutt]

At 00:26 -0400 6/22/12, Dan wrote:
>At 4:12 PM -0700 6/21/2012, glen wrote:
>>I get my share of spam -- most of it goes into the spam folder where it 
>>belongs.
>
>Which spam folder - the one in your local mail client or the one on Yahoo's 
>service?
>
>If the former then your Yahoo service isn't doing its job.
>
>>During the past months I found a few spams disguised with the name and email 
>>address of former business clients and today the name and email address of a 
>>close friend in my inbox.
>[snip]
>>are any of my Mac's responsible for this?
>
>Doubtful.  While there are a few trojans around that will harvest address 
>books and such, they're rather rare.  And your anti-virus would have caught 
>them.
>
>>Or, are spammers hacking into my friend and clients email devices to cause 
>>this disturbing disruption?
>
>More likely, especially if they're using Android or Windows.
>
>>Or what else could be causing this? Is it something I should be concerned 
>>with?
>
>Most likely - you or your friend's email account on the mail service (Yahoo in 
>your case) was broken into and harvested.  Services such as Yahoo's are under 
>attack 24/7.  Change your passwords.
>
>OTGH, it's possible your conclusions as to the origins of the emails are 
>incorrect.  Them spammers is getting awfully good at forging things these 
>days.  Can't tell without seeing 'em tho, including complete headers.
>
>HTH,
>- Dan.

Dan's comment on needing full headers is important.  You can look at the 
headers yourself. Email clients regularly suppress headers that they think are 
not important but, though the button may be hidden pretty well, they can all be 
asked to show you the whole thing.

My email host adds headers that are derived from SpamAssassin, software used by 
them on all mail, which can often have something to say about irregularities in 
the message.

But headers can also be faked.  The ones fully trustworthy are added last while 
the message is enroute. The last Received: header is most likely correct. The 
From: header is generated entirely by the sender and can easily be a lie.

It is also possible that your friends' machines have been infected with malware 
that turns them into a robot which regularly calls a bad machine on the net and 
receives messages that it will copy out to perhaps hundreds of recipients. That 
is best fixed by removing the bad stuff from your friend's machine which, as 
Dan says, is unlikely to be a Mac or other UNIX-based machine.

Try looking at the full headers in suspected messages. They're pretty much 
readable text.  You might even discover something in common that you can use as 
a filter.

But then you might discover that Yahoo itself deliberately makes that 
difficult. They do have some strange ideas that have bothered me. Reading mail 
over an HTTP link with a browser does limit your options.

List-ID: Spam-Tools Discussion List 
To: Spam-Tools Discussion List 

is a mailing list that has not been too active recently. It's a bit geeky but 
has taught me a lot. I don't know if they have an archive. Last message was 
from Jim Carr about a new antispam scheme introduced by Yahoo on June 6 2012.

quoting from that:

At 02:09 -0700 6/7/12, Jim Carr wrote:
>The second technology, SPF, or Sender Policy Framework, allows email
>senders to indicate which hosts are authorized to send their email,
>allowing receiving organizations to discard messages coming from
>spoofed "from" addresses.


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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[Dan]

At 4:12 PM -0700 6/21/2012, glen wrote:
I get my share of spam -- most of it goes into the spam folder where 
it belongs.


Which spam folder - the one in your local mail client or the one on 
Yahoo's service?


If the former then your Yahoo service isn't doing its job.

During the past months I found a few spams disguised with the name 
and email address of former business clients and today the name and 
email address of a close friend in my inbox.

[snip]

are any of my Mac's responsible for this?


Doubtful.  While there are a few trojans around that will harvest 
address books and such, they're rather rare.  And your anti-virus 
would have caught them.


Or, are spammers hacking into my friend and clients email devices to 
cause this disturbing disruption?


More likely, especially if they're using Android or Windows.

Or what else could be causing this? Is it something I should be 
concerned with?


Most likely - you or your friend's email account on the mail service 
(Yahoo in your case) was broken into and harvested.  Services such as 
Yahoo's are under attack 24/7.  Change your passwords.


OTGH, it's possible your conclusions as to the origins of the emails 
are incorrect.  Them spammers is getting awfully good at forging 
things these days.  Can't tell without seeing 'em tho, including 
complete headers.


HTH,
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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[Richard Gerome]

-Original Message-
>From: glen 
>Sent: Jun 21, 2012 7:12 PM
>To: "g3-5-list@googlegroups.com" 
>Subject: Questions About New Spam Concerns
>
> I get my share of spam -- most of it goes into the spam folder where it 
> belongs.
>
>During the past months I found a few spams disguised with the name and email 
>address of former business clients and today the name and email address of a 
>close friend in my inbox.
>
>The business clients I have known for a number of years and are not spammers. 
>Furthermore, I have not done any recent business with them. I don't know if 
>they are Mac or Window users so I suspected perhaps some windows malware 
>snatched my email from them and sent the spam masked with their name and 
>address.
>
>Today, I  received a lose weight spam from a good friend who is a Mac user. 
>Since I am the desired weight for my height I know this is not a hint to lose 
>weight.  This friend also uses a smart phone (Blackberry) to exchange emails.

 I hate to tell you but it's malware infecting both PeeCee's and Mac's... 
My Macbook has been infected and I'm looking for a Leopard and Snow Leopard 
discs to do some cleaning and reinstalling very soon... 



>So here's are the questions, are any of my Mac's responsible for this? Or, are 
>spammers hacking into my friend and clients email devices to cause this 
>disturbing disruption? Or what else could be causing this? Is it something I 
>should be concerned with? 
>
>This raises a lot of red security flags. Thanks for any answers --glen
>
>PS all emails were sent from a either a B&W G3 (now retired), G4 Sawtooth, DA, 
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Questions About New Spam Concerns

[glen]

 I get my share of spam -- most of it goes into the spam folder where it 
belongs.

During the past months I found a few spams disguised with the name and email 
address of former business clients and today the name and email address of a 
close friend in my inbox.

The business clients I have known for a number of years and are not spammers. 
Furthermore, I have not done any recent business with them. I don't know if 
they are Mac or Window users so I suspected perhaps some windows malware 
snatched my email from them and sent the spam masked with their name and 
address.

Today, I  received a lose weight spam from a good friend who is a Mac user. 
Since I am the desired weight for my height I know this is not a hint to lose 
weight.  This friend also uses a smart phone (Blackberry) to exchange emails.

So here's are the questions, are any of my Mac's responsible for this? Or, are 
spammers hacking into my friend and clients email devices to cause this 
disturbing disruption? Or what else could be causing this? Is it something I 
should be concerned with? 

This raises a lot of red security flags. Thanks for any answers --glen

PS all emails were sent from a either a B&W G3 (now retired), G4 Sawtooth, DA, 
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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Dan]

Bill forwarded the email to me.

My response:

This received header is the key:

Received: from c9rxllkk ([unknown] [220.95.137.166]) by 
vms169129.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 
7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id 
<0ln100itki5fq...@vms169129.mailsrvcs.net> for 
billycarm...@verizon.net; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:46:41 -0500 (CDT)


220.95.137.166 is in Korea.  The spammer is using a zombied peecee 
there to relay it.


Other than the fact that it was addressed to 
billycarm...@verizon.net, there is no evidence this has anything to 
do with any LEM list.


The above Received header is likely legit because mailsrvcs.net is a 
service domain owned by Verizon and that is the server that created 
that header.


Notice that you, the recipient, are *different* from the To address. 
That's fine - except for that final Received header, *ALL* other mail 
headers are forgeable and optional.  The actual address(es) to which 
an email is sent are given to the smtp server separately, as part of 
its protocol.


(I've omitted that To: field in this list reply because that address 
might be legit, some poor guy that's being abused by a spammer.  No 
need to spread his addr farther).


(and the body of the email is just a standard drug push with a url in 
the Russian tld.  Kindof boring, actually, not even a spoofed domain).


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Ben Dinger]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:51:25 -0600, "Tina K." 

wrote:

> I'm not a big Verizon fan, but then I dont have FiOS either. I might be 

> willing to put up with them for that kind of speed.

> 

> I have two Gmail and two AOL accounts and I see very little spam, 

> nothing like I did say five years ago. Not complaining a bit either.



GMail has the second best filter on the planet, only behind Google Apps +

Postini in my book.  A very close third are IronPort appliances.  I had

stopped using this account because of the amount of spam it got,

spamassassin did nothing to help.  Friday I went to the colo and put in a

surplus IronPort and new personal mail server, and like magic I have no

spam.  2,700 blocked spam messages to the one account enabled so far in <

24 hours.  Uffdah. 



Anyway,  geek overload.  FWIW I haven't seen any spam to this list

in my filter.  

 

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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Tina K.]

On 2011/06/19 06:37, Dan so eloquently wrote:

At 11:34 PM -0600 6/18/2011, Tina K. wrote:

On 2011/06/18 07:15, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:

Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug
sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?

I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ...


Huh? I get zero spam from LEM lists, and I'm subscribed to at least
five of them. Perhaps AOL is catching it.


Obviously this is a GMAIL account not an AOL account, please pardon my 
blonde moment.



Well, "zero" is relative.  There was that recent fusenet glitch. Nothing
to do with LEM per se, but still...


Occasionally I get spam on one of the other list servers that I 
subscribe to, but even that is so little that it is insignificant.



fwiw... In addition to my Gmail account, I have two verizon.net email
addresses (such as the OP's) - the primary contact accounts for our FiOS
service.  Verizon's filters are rather poor.  Sometimes they flag their
own "notices" as spam.  And I get perhaps 10 to 20 spams a week on each,
that their filters totally miss.  The comparison is, of course, my Gmail
account.  Their filters are pretty good; perhaps one a week gets thru,
if that.


I'm not a big Verizon fan, but then I dont have FiOS either. I might be 
willing to put up with them for that kind of speed.


I have two Gmail and two AOL accounts and I see very little spam, 
nothing like I did say five years ago. Not complaining a bit either.


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Dan]

At 2:05 PM -0400 6/19/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:

On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote:

At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long 
time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox.


Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the 
g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering 
how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were 
protected there.


Please send me a single sample, including the full headers.  I'll 
take a look.


For some reason, Mail (or the Server) refuses to Forward a copy to 
you. I also tried cutting and pasting the headers and body, but it 
refused to send it that way, too.


I'm working from the Junk folder ... maybe I should move it to a 
non-Junk box, and try to Forward it there ...


yea.  Doncha just love apps that won't do what you tell them to do 
because they think they know better?


Or copy the whole thing to a text file, zip it, and send that.

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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Bill Connelly]

On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote:


At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long  
time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox.


Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5  
list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how  
they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected  
there.


Please send me a single sample, including the full headers.  I'll  
take a look.




For some reason, Mail (or the Server) refuses to Forward a copy to  
you. I also tried cutting and pasting the headers and body, but it  
refused to send it that way, too.


I'm working from the Junk folder ... maybe I should move it to a non- 
Junk box, and try to Forward it there ...




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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Dan]

At 11:34 PM -0600 6/18/2011, Tina K. wrote:

On 2011/06/18 07:15, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:

Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug
sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?

I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ...


Huh? I get zero spam from LEM lists, and I'm subscribed to at least 
five of them. Perhaps AOL is catching it.


Well, "zero" is relative.  There was that recent fusenet glitch. 
Nothing to do with LEM per se, but still...


fwiw... In addition to my Gmail account, I have two verizon.net email 
addresses (such as the OP's) - the primary contact accounts for our 
FiOS service.  Verizon's filters are rather poor.  Sometimes they 
flag their own "notices" as spam.  And I get perhaps 10 to 20 spams a 
week on each, that their filters totally miss.  The comparison is, of 
course, my Gmail account.  Their filters are pretty good; perhaps one 
a week gets thru, if that.


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Tina K.]

On 2011/06/18 07:15, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:

Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug
sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?

I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ...


Huh? I get zero spam from LEM lists, and I'm subscribed to at least five 
of them. Perhaps AOL is catching it.


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Jonas Ulrich]

I occasionally get those messages as well, but not enough to even annoy me.
I just ignore them.

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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Edward Treen]

On 18 Jun 2011, at 18:46, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Bill Connelly  
> wrote:
> Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales 
> e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?
> 
> 
> Nothing like that is coming into gmail. with or without fake "G"list addies.
> 
> 


Nothing like that received by me (in the UK), either.

Ted

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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Doug McNutt]

I personally handle lists using the ListID: header that is almost universal 
now. These are typical:

>To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
>Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>List-ID: 


My list address is filtered using a white list of subscribed  ListID: headers. 
Not there, the message is spam.

There are a few exceptions and I do look for a subject that is an exact 
duplicate of something I have recently sent. That helps for folks who still 
think replies to lists ought to be sent To: the poster with a copy to the list. 
(That was a good idea when lists could take more than a day to respond over a 
telephone or usenet connection.)

If you speak perl have a look at: 
<ftp://ftp.macnauchtan.com/Pair/qfilter_list.pl>

The list server is usually pretty good at filtering out spam sent to the list 
for re-distribution. They have the advantage of an allowed list of posters who 
can be cut off for bad messages. But it can still happen that a subscriber's 
computer can get infected and distribute messages over a list, Such things are 
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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

> Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug
> sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?
>
>
Nothing like that is coming into gmail. with or without fake "G"list addies.













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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[larry moore]

On 18/6/11 10:49 AM, Brielle wrote:
> I'm not getting any of these spams you are talking about.  Perhaps you need a 
> better email host?
>
> We (my group) is Mac friendly and there's super strong mail filtering.  Let 
> me know if you want an account.
>
>
> Brielle
>
I second that suggestion - my ISP sysadmin has a good spam filter set up
and I get almost no spam.

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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Dan]

At 11:16 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:

On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote:

At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long 
time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox.


Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the 
g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering 
how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were 
protected there.


Please send me a single sample, including the full headers.  I'll 
take a look.


I'll wait for the next one to arrive,


Ok.

as all the ones I got so far, I Forwarded to 
spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net


eh.  Better to just train the spam filters in your local email 
client.  Companies like Verizon have such poor email service, that 
their filters are all but useless anyway.



, and when I'm in a bad mood, Bounce'd them too.


oops.  Think about that.  Two types of spam:  1) Spam relayed thru a 
zombie, using someone else's from address.  2) Spam used to probe to 
see if there's a live user out there.


Type 1... By "bouncing", all you're doing is screwing over some 
innocent person whoze address was put in the From field by a spammer. 
Just what that poor guy needs -- more spam.


Type 2... You're telling the spammer that you EXIST!   YAH!  That 
just popped you from from his giant unverified address list to the 
Next Level, the one that brings in more $ when the spammer sells the 
list to other spammers!  IOW, you are HELPING the spammer earn 
*cough* his living AND you are EXPLICITLY ENCOURAGING other spammers 
to spam you!


The same thing happens when you simply view a spam, with "html 
enabled" or "images enabled".  Those 1x1 pixel graphic files that you 
don't see...  That's reaching out and touching the spammer's web site 
to tell him YOU EXIST.


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Bill Connelly]

On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote:


At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long  
time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox.


Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5  
list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how  
they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected  
there.


Please send me a single sample, including the full headers.  I'll  
take a look.




I'll wait for the next one to arrive, as all the ones I got so far, I  
Forwarded to spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net, and when I'm in a bad  
mood, Bounce'd them too.


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Dan]

At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long 
time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox.


Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 
list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they 
got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there.


Please send me a single sample, including the full headers.  I'll take a look.

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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Brielle]

I'm not getting any of these spams you are talking about.  Perhaps you need a 
better email host?

We (my group) is Mac friendly and there's super strong mail filtering.  Let me 
know if you want an account.


Brielle

On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Bill Connelly  wrote:

> Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales 
> e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?
> 
> I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ...
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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Bill Connelly]

On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Dan wrote:


At 9:15 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and  
drug sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?


From?  A legit g3-5-list email has a TO field that says - and note  
the lower case:

To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
and it has a FROM field that's the email address of the sender, eg:
From: Bill Connelly 

You're welcome to unsubscribe, of course.  That would be like  
shunning your friends because some unknown idiot from across town is  
making crank phone calls to your home.  But hey, whatever floats  
your boat.


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My apologies ... I was being somewhat inflammatory, letting my ocd get  
the best of me   I'm not dropping the group.


But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long  
time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox.


Just sick of seeing them.

Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5  
list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they  
got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there.


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Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Dan]

At 9:15 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and 
drug sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?


From?  A legit g3-5-list email has a TO field that says - and note 
the lower case:

To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
and it has a FROM field that's the email address of the sender, eg:
From: Bill Connelly 

You're welcome to unsubscribe, of course.  That would be like 
shunning your friends because some unknown idiot from across town is 
making crank phone calls to your home.  But hey, whatever floats your 
boat.


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Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?

[Bill Connelly]

Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug  
sales e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List?


I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ...

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Re: spam

[Kris Tilford]

The "storm" is over, let's just forget it and move on . . .

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Re: spam

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Geke  wrote:

> I just got 79 spam messages, fortunately all of them were filtered out
> by Gmail. The reason for reporting this here is that they were all
> looking like error messages for not being able to deliver a post of
> mine to the G3-5 group.
>
> So it looks like someone has been collecting all my posts on this list
> and sending me such a mail for each of them, after finding out my
> email address as well.
>
>
> You probably deleted the earlier explanation for this earlier..







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spam

[Geke]

I just got 79 spam messages, fortunately all of them were filtered out
by Gmail. The reason for reporting this here is that they were all
looking like error messages for not being able to deliver a post of
mine to the G3-5 group.

So it looks like someone has been collecting all my posts on this list
and sending me such a mail for each of them, after finding out my
email address as well.


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Re: ***SPAM*** OSX is a 32-bit operating system?? is this true??

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:47 PM, ah...clem wrote:

> i've just been informed by a reliable source that OSX is a 32-bit

s/reliable source/clueless wanker/

There, fixed it for yah.

In actuality it is both. up through 10.5 OS X was 32-bit (with 64 bit parts on 
some systems, notably the G5's)

10.6 is fully 64-bit, on supported hardware. (My Core Duo 1st gen intel iMac is 
installed in 32-bit mode, but newer intel systems are 64-bit.)


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Re: Spam malware?

[Dan]

At 6:04 PM -0600 2/19/2010, Kris Tilford wrote:

I'm using Little Snitch on my G5 2.3 dual w/10.5.8.

Today I get a message from Little Snitch saying:


Mail wants to connect to smtp.cs.com on TCP port 465(urd).

IP Address: 205.188.186.137
Reverse DNS Name: mtaout-da.r1000.mx.aol.com
Established by: /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
Process ID: 7444


I did a bit of searching and cs.com is CompuServe. I've never had 
anything to do with CompuServe, I thought it went out of business or 
perhaps was bought by AOL? I do have an old AOL email account, but 
it's setup for smtp at aol.com. Since the Reverse DNS Name has 
"aol.com" at the end, I thought perhaps AOL was having some problems 
with it's smtp, and forwarding to another address they control? The 
problem with that is that I haven't sent anything from the AOL 
account to cause this. I suspect this may be part of some SPAM 
operation. I'm leaning toward telling Little Snitch to "Deny" the 
connection "Forever". Any advice?


CompuServe is owned by AOL and still exists.

That IP is part of one of AOL's SMTP pool.

AOL seems to be having some dns issues currently; a bunch of their 
IPs aren't translating consistantly.


As to why Mail was reaching out to it... Perhaps you tried to send 
mail via AOL's servers and their dns issues redirected you to that 
pool.


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Spam malware?

[Kris Tilford]

I'm using Little Snitch on my G5 2.3 dual w/10.5.8.

Today I get a message from Little Snitch saying:


Mail wants to connect to smtp.cs.com on TCP port 465(urd).

IP Address: 205.188.186.137
Reverse DNS Name: mtaout-da.r1000.mx.aol.com
Established by: /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
Process ID: 7444


I did a bit of searching and cs.com is CompuServe. I've never had  
anything to do with CompuServe, I thought it went out of business or  
perhaps was bought by AOL? I do have an old AOL email account, but  
it's setup for smtp at aol.com. Since the Reverse DNS Name has  
"aol.com" at the end, I thought perhaps AOL was having some problems  
with it's smtp, and forwarding to another address they control? The  
problem with that is that I haven't sent anything from the AOL account  
to cause this. I suspect this may be part of some SPAM operation. I'm  
leaning toward telling Little Snitch to "Deny" the connection  
"Forever". Any advice?


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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[Bill Connelly]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:00 PM, roman...@ideal-access.com wrote:

It may be worth a mention that my filters have been selecting Bill's  
postings to the g3-5-list as "junk mail". The server filters and my  
mail client's filter are doing an excellent job. My filter is set to  
"training mode" so I can see what's what. I have had to hit the "not  
junk" icon at least half a dozen times anytime Bill posted a  
message. Regards, Roman


I don't remember getting any spam at all when we had the old LEM list.

No VIAGRA ads, no "Even though Your Mom is Dead ... Let's Find a Place  
for her to Live" ads, etc.


Not Junk to me ...

but ...

Letting it all go ...


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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[romantic]

It may be worth a mention that my filters have been selecting Bill's 
postings to the g3-5-list as "junk mail". The server filters and my 
mail client's filter are doing an excellent job. My filter is set to 
"training mode" so I can see what's what. I have had to hit the "not 
junk" icon at least half a dozen times anytime Bill posted a message. 
Regards, Roman


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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[Dan]

At 8:21 PM -0500 1/25/2010, Bill Connelly wrote:


And 192.223.124.145
is according to ARIN (from whois.org):


ARIN is the American Registry of Internet Numbers.  The IP in 
question delegated to LACNIC (Latin American and Caribbean IP address 
Regional Registry).  So you have to query LACNIC for the actual IP 
owner (see my original reply).



Someone from Mexico did view my site recently


The spam came from Brazil, not Mexico.  No real connection there, 
unless you're worried about it all being one big continent.



Any way to contact them back?


Sure.  You could file paperwork with the Mexican govt to get a 
warrant from that ISP, to identify the user, then give that customer 
a ring.  Might be a bit stalkerish/creepy tho. LOL



or just not the one?


Just let it go.  What you received most likely came via a zombie. 
There is no way for you to find the true originator without great 
expense (and big legal multinational pull).


This is just spam.  Filter it and move on.

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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[John Musbach]

On 1/25/10, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> Any way to contact them back?
> or just not the one?

as I posted, the spammers ip belongs to a brazillian cleaning product
company and along with my information is the phone number if the
technical contact. If you know how to speak their language and can
afford the long distance fees you could contact the technical
representitive directly but ultimately you'll probably get a better
response by reporting to opendns their clients use of their services
as a spam relay as not only will they be able to communicate in a more
professional and direct manner most likely to get a response but they
can immediately suspend the clients services as another way to quickly
invoke a response and ensure a quick and efficient resolution.

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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[Dan]

At 5:37 PM -0500 1/25/2010, John Musbach wrote:


If you google "g3-5-list archive" you can see that there are 
multiple archives of this list being maintained apart from the 
google groups archive


Whoa.  I guess it makes sense that those would exist, but I had no 
idea!  Geeze, there's even an echo on blogspot!  How 'bout that - we 
be bloggers without even knowing it!


http://g3-5-list.blogspot.com/

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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[Bill Connelly]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 25, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

How do you trace bad e-mails back to their origins? These things,  
mostly VIAGRA ads,  are also coming from the G3-G5 list, although I  
think this one came from someone who has viewed my artsite  
recently. I usually send them on to spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net 
, but I'd like to follow this one back if possible to their ISP.



Go to View >message > Raw Source (not long headers)



Well, in my case, here's the Raw Source (I had edited out the body  
of the message before):


Return-path: 
Received: from asdf145.mailnet.smtp ([unknown] [192.223.124.145])
by vms169131.mailsrvcs.net
(Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16  
2009))

with ESMTP id <0kwt0007na7a7...@vms169131.mailsrvcs.net> for
moonstoneartstu...@verizon.net; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:38:01 -0600 (CST)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:44:32 -0800
From: "A Place For Mom" 
Subject: Find the Right Housing Options for Your Loved One
X-Originating-IP: [192.223.124.145]
To: 
Message-id: <0kwt000a5a7d7...@vms169131.mailsrvcs.net>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/html
Original-recipient: rfc822;moonstoneartstu...@verizon.net

body edited out


Per others comments, there's not much I can do ... except go on and  
send it in to

spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net
and convince myself "Detective Job Well Done".




And 192.223.124.145
is according to ARIN (from whois.org):

OrgName: Latin American and Caribbean IP address Regional Registry  
OrgID: LACNIC Address: Rambla Republica de Mexico 6125 City:  
Montevideo StateProv: PostalCode: 11400 Country: UY ReferralServer:  
whois://whois.lacnic.net NetRange: 192.223.64.0 - 192.223.127.255  
CIDR: 192.223.64.0/18 NetName: LACNIC-ERX-192-223-64-0 NetHandle:  
NET-192-223-64-0-1 Parent: NET-192-0-0-0-0 NetType: Transferred to  
LACNIC Comment: This IP address range is under LACNIC responsibility  
Comment: for further allocations to users in LACNIC region. Comment:  
Please see http://www.lacnic.net/ for further details, Comment: or  
check the WHOIS server located at http://whois.lacnic.net RegDate:  
2004-10-20 Updated: 2007-12-17 OrgTechHandle: LACNIC-ARIN OrgTechName:  
LACNIC Whois Info OrgTechPhone: OrgTechEmail: whois-cont...@lacnic.net  
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-01-24 20:00 # Enter ? for  
additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. # # ARIN WHOIS  
data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html



Someone from Mexico did view my site recently (information collected  
from StatCounter,com):



Number of Entries:
Entry Page Time:
Visit Length:
Browser
OS
Resolution1
24th January 2010 19:48:24
0 seconds
Safari 4.0.4
Mac OS X
1024x768Returning Visits:
Location:
Hostname:
Entry Page:
Exit Page:
Referring URL:0
Mexico Distrito Federal Mexico
dsl-189-170-75-25-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (189.170.75.25) [Label IP  
Address]

Moonstone Art Studio
Moonstone Art Studio
www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/&usg=AFQjCNFpttgQfb6Ci9axbDCAq8gOSCYT8Q


Any way to contact them back?
or just not the one?

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Re: How to Trace Spam / Harassing e-mails off G3-G5 list and others

[John Musbach]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> How do you trace bad e-mails back to their origins? These things, mostly
> VIAGRA ads,  are also coming from the G3-G5 list, although I think this one
> came from someone who has viewed my artsite recently. I usually send them on
> to spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net, but I'd like to follow this one back
> if possible to their ISP.

According to the data you provided, the spam email was relayed through
vms169131.mailsrvcs.net whose IP address is 67.215.65.132 which when
whois'd through arin.net's IP database returns that that server is
owned by OpenDNS. The sender, whose IP is 192.223.124.145 lives in
Brazil and it appears either a rogue employee is sending spam or one
of the company's machines (more likely) has become infested with
malware as that IP returns:

owner:   Industrias Gessy Lever Ltda
ownerid: BR-IGLL1-LACNIC
address: Av. Maria Coelho Aguiar, 215
address: Bloco C - 3 andar
address: Centro de Informatica
address: Sao Paulo
address: CEP
country: BR
owner-c: WG59-ARIN
created: 19921120
changed: 19981012
source:  ARIN-HISTORIC

nic-hdl: WG59-ARIN
person:  Welson Giovanini
e-mail:
address: Av. Maria Coelho Aguiar, 215
address: Bloco C - 3 andar
address: Centro de Informatica
address: CEP 05805
address: Sao Paulo, BRAZIL
country: BR
phone:   +55 11 545 4432


and when the company "Industrias Gessy Lever Ltda" is googled it turns
out to be a cleaning products business
(http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://industrias-gessy-lever-ltda.br.telelistas.net/vct/produtos-para-limpeza/araraquara/78082070.htm&ei=rBpeS6ClHIea8Abnvu2TBQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA4Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DIndustrias%2BGessy%2BLever%2BLtda%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG).
So my best guess as to what's going on is that  "Industrias Gessy
Lever Ltda" is a client of OpenDNS with one of their hosted solutions,
and there is a internal issue (likely malware) that is attaching
itself to the appliance and using it as a spam relay. To get the most
likely reaction and action against this act, I would report it to
OpenDNS as the problem is coming from one of their clients.

> How do people get our e-mail addresses from the G3-G5 list?

If you google "g3-5-list archive" you can see that there are multiple
archives of this list being maintained apart from the google groups
archive, it is possible that one of those archives does not censor
email addresses contained in emails sent to the list. It is also
possible that a service you at one point subscribed to sold your email
address or even that at some point you became victim to a piece of
malware that harvested your email address. So in short, although it is
possible that your email address was harvested from one of the
g3-5-list archives, it is also likely (perhaps more so even) that a
service you subscribed to sold your address to spammers or a piece of
malware harvested it at one point in time (if you ever used Windows).


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Re: Spam on list

[Len Gerstel]

Folks,

There has been an attack into Yahoo mail accounts. They are sending  
messages with hacked accounts to any list that that person is  
subscribed to.

Rather than moderate all yahoo accounts, we are going to place each  
hacked account on moderated status unless it gets too bad.

I do not know if it will help, but yahoo users might want to change  
their passwords.

So, PLEASE folks, if you see a spam on the list, odds are it came from  
a hacked Yahoo account. PLEASE DO NOT comment on it.

The Nannies will try and moderate the account as soon as we can to  
prevent further spams.


Len Gerstel
lgers...@gmail.com
List Nanny G3-5 List


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