Re: [Audyssey] text version of second life

2008-01-23 Thread shaun everiss
gees I'd be interested to test ibm, ms or any big company.
At 03:37 p.m. 23/01/2008, you wrote:
Hey Mike,
I have to admit I've never played second life. When I went to movable life I 
had no idea what to do. I know there's a box to type in the location I want 
to go to, but since I've never played the game I have no idea what the 
various locations are. it's probably on the map, but obviously the ma's a 
graphic and of no use to me. do you have a list of place I can go to? Also 
about IBM. do they have anything for testing at this point? I just read some 
stuff about that project on a blog but not sure if they have an official 
site I can check this out.

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 It's a little bit easier to teleport using the first site.  I'd like to 
 get
 involved with testing any accessibility put into the client it self, the
 ideas that IBM are working on are good.

 Mike

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 From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
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 Ok replying to my own message here, which I normally never do. There's
 another web-based second life client called AjaxLife. It was developed by
 Katharine, a teenager in the UK. You may wanna check both out and 
 compare.
 Here's the link to her blog.
 http://blog.katharineberry.co.uk/2007/07/02/ajaxlife/
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 From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:54 AM
 Subject: text version of second life


I can't believe this message was posted like 3 weeks ago and I just saw 
it
cause it was hiding in the spam folder. remind me to check spam folder
guys! grin. Anyhow just changed the subject line to spark a bit more
interest. If you guys don't know what second life is, it's basically a
virtual world. don't know how to explain it better than that. I suggest
you
check out wikipedia.org and type in second life. Well gonna try signing 
in
to this thing and see if it's any good. if anyone else gets a username
post
it here so we can all chat!

 - Original Message - 
 From: Orin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:08 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Movable Life, A web based,Text Based version of
 Second
 Life,and SL accessibility related blogs


 Hi all,

 Just wanted to tell you about this interesting project. It's a project
 that basically gives you a limited version of SL. You can teleport and
 chat, search for users and look at your inventory I believe. But at
 least we can talk and let these accessibility groups that are forming
 in SL that we do, indeed, exist.

 To look at this, head on over to http://www.movablelife.net.

 Also, there are sevral accessibility related blogs on SL, but the most
 active one is at http://blindsecondlife.blogspot.com.

 Well, I think some people want to really make this thing accessible. A
 health island about disibilities formed where people can go and learn
 about disibilities, so at least people in the SL world do care.



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Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension

2008-01-23 Thread shaun everiss
I didn't know much about it all until I stumbled on to it in about 1996.
I was on the old now dead henrichson site and found all these files called 
audxx.zip where the xx was the number of the issue.
I was borred enough to download it all and read all 21 or so issues, actually I 
think at that time there were something like 16-17 issues.
I got on the mail lists and I was with the crowd upto electronic distrobutions 
on email.
Ok I have had my ups and downs, I've seen entire hacker and comunity battles, 
I've even taken the wrong side and things, my track record hasn't been the best 
shell we say but it seems ok I think for the last year at least maybe 2.
I'm interested for the audacity mag though to now we are in 2008 that we should 
have a history of the mag, where it came from and where it was going to go to.
I also think we are ready to go to the next step of the mag, that being audio 
recordings of it, each dev etc says their bit, interviews over skype or 
whatever are recorded if possible etc.
I don't have much hardware and I probably will have to use quickmix loads, and 
speech will come in to the mag but we are not exactly a pro mag.
I'd be happy to produce this as long as all audio bits came to me in the right 
time, I am thinking to do some tech thing, I can use mediafire for uploading, I 
mean I doubt we will use loads and loads of files, however.
I do understand that you may have to have a text version and for articles that 
can not be recorded in audio I can read the things out with speech synths in 
notepad.
I don't want people to put themselves out though.
Oh Before I forget I am probably going to not put the emails and letters in as 
its probably going to be a real pain ofcause if some of you that send letters 
can record voice wise great.
If not I can probably read those to.
I am probably going to get a job soon but except for the x-sight testing and 
maybe other tests I have nothing else to do.
I am also thinking about doing a podcast of this thing maybe.
I don't know if I should set up something on net radio or what, or what is best.
My origional idea was to send via mediafire or usendit the link to the 
completed mp3 then if someone wanted to broadcast/ podcast they could.
I accept that I probably will not replace the text version  of the mag at least 
not in the short term.
What does everyone think of this.

Hi,

Quote
It was like back in like 1990 that I first got on line and got into the 
FidoNet Email lists such as Blink
Talk and Blind Talk.  That and searching the BBSs was how I found that 
there was
a need to share the games that I was producing for my own playability.
End quote

Wow! I wasn't even aware you had been writing games that long. Though, 
back in 1990 I still had some useful vision, and was still playing Super 
NES and other games of that era.
I didn't write my first text game until 1998, and at that time I didn't 
even know there was an Audyssey comunity. Like allot of others in the 
general blind comunity I didn't even know there was an Audyssey mag, 
list, and games out there for us. So I wrote some black jack, hangman, 
and other games thinking I was the first to come up with the idea. It 
was only after I discovered Audyssey that I learned there were others 
out here with the same thoughts and ideas I had.

Quote
Ok, it just sounded to me like you were saying that games like that were 
useless
and people shouldn't even waste time making them because no one would 
even want to
play them.
End quote

No, actually card games, board games, and word puzzles are still in high 
demand. I recently ran a poll on the Mac Visionaries mailing list and 
the majority of requests were for games similar to your Casino and 
Monopoly games. Mac users seamed less interested in First Person, 
Side-Scrollers, and other action style games I generally like to play.
As it so happens the card, board, and word puzzle games are about the 
easiest types of games for me to create so I am not at all unhappy they 
requested something easier to design. The First Person games like Tomb 
Rader and the Racing simulations like Raceway requires allot of jeometry 
and real time physics which is allot more work than just a puzzle or 
board game.
As it happens there are a few board games that are really cool that have 
never been created in accessible format such as Dark World, Battle 
Masters, and Futile. probably not your style of game, but they are 
basically games dealing with Knights, Footman, Dwarfs, Goblins, Skeleton 
Warriors, etc played out on battle fields. I have always been a fan of 
the strategy style board games. Large and small skale military campaigns 
and things like that.

Quote
We sure have come along way since the days of the dos games where
we didn't have a sound file playing engine like DirectX.  I thought that 
it was very
exciting when David openly here asked for input and worked on creating 
the first
accessible live action first person shooter game.
End quote

Yes, DirectX 

Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games

2008-01-23 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Nicol,

I always un load Jaws for playing games.  To me it is not that hard to reload 
it.  But that is one reason that I like the whole Kitchen's Inc game menu 
program.  I can go from one game to another to another etc and it is all self 
voicing.

BFN

 Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension

2008-01-23 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I started writing computer video games like in 1981 on a Texas 
Instruments 99 4A home computer.  The first games were draw poker, Star Mule 
and Homer on a Harley (Eval Kneval)  I then got my first talking computer in 
December of 1989.  It was a NEC 286 with an Accent S A running Jaws for dos 
version 1.  The first program that I wrote was a braille reference guide.  I 
wrote it in January 1990 while at the Cleveland Sight Center.  Anna Karr my 
braille instructor helped me to make sure that it was all correct.  Then I 
wrote black jack and draw poker.  Those games were on the Jaws web site slash 
BBS.

No, I did not like the bookshelf game Futile.  I very much liked the bookshelf 
game Twixt though.  I think that my Brother and Sister cheated at Futile 
because they couldn't beat me at chess or Twixt. grin

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension

2008-01-23 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas,

Yeah, I started writing computer video games like in 1981 on a Texas 
Instruments 99 4A home computer.  The first games were draw poker, Star Mule 
and Homer on a Harley (Eval Kneval)  I then got my first talking computer in 
December of 1989.  It was a NEC 286 with an Accent S A running Jaws for dos 
version 1.  The first program that I wrote was a braille reference guide.  I 
wrote it in January 1990 while at the Cleveland Sight Center.  Anna Karr my 
braille instructor helped me to make sure that it was all correct.  Then I 
wrote black jack and draw poker.  Those games were on the Jaws web site slash 
BBS.

No, I did not like the bookshelf game Futile.  I very much liked the bookshelf 
game Twixt though.  I think that my Brother and Sister cheated at Futile 
because they couldn't beat me at chess or Twixt. grin

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Sound RTS and Python version?

2008-01-23 Thread SoundMUD
Hi Thomas, I will include the additional python 2.5 compiled files in
the next release, but build a Linux package only if you really want or
need to, because for future releases I would have problems (or lack of
time) to automate the Linux build from my computer.

Jean-Luc

2008/1/23, Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,
 Ah, I do see why you were using Python 2.4. Debian is notorious for
 supporting older stuff long after Fedora, Ubuntu, and other
 distributions have upgraded to a version or two ahead to the latest
 packages.
 Though, if you would do it I would really really appreciate it if you
 could make a 2.5 build for me. In return I could take your sounds and
 pic files and create a nice dpkg package for Debian and Ubuntu Linux
 systems for easy installation with a shell script to run python and
 launch it out of the box for Linux gamers interested in your game.
 If not what I could do is build Python 2.4, install it to a non-standard
 location like /opt, and run it by setting some export flags to it.

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[Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.

2008-01-23 Thread Jimmy Odin Kristoffersen
Hi.

I am at last finesh with Proving Grounds V-
The Silver Crest, but i got a boks From Rynduil, who tolt me to open it in the 
rume in the headquarters of the Silver Crest, i am also going into the rume, 
but still i cant find the way to open this things.

How do i do that?

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.

2008-01-23 Thread Sarah Haake
Hi Jimmy,

you need the skill of Lore to open these books. When you have it, just try 
to use the skill when you are in the room.
If you don't have it, you can get in the adventurers collective in Thritik.

Hth

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[Audyssey] SoundRTS

2008-01-23 Thread Jimmy Odin Kristoffersen
Hi.

Is it only me who have problems?
When i save a game in the newest beta and trying to play my saved game cant i 
bilt, and this is in all maps.
Why cant i bilt after i restore a saved game?
Thanks.
Jimmy
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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.

2008-01-23 Thread Bryan
Just use one of them as an item.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.


 Hi.

 I am at last finesh with Proving Grounds V-
 The Silver Crest, but i got a boks From Rynduil, who tolt me to open it in 
 the rume in the headquarters of the Silver Crest, i am also going into the 
 rume, but still i cant find the way to open this things.

 How do i do that?

 Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.

2008-01-23 Thread Bryan
Actually, you need the Tome of FOrgotten Lore, which is the massive leather 
tome you got from Stoneback Hill. Then you have to go to Marl's Wood and 
fight the nine battles with Taro-Zar-Huul. You need Lore and Arcana both at 
sixty to invoke the magic. Show the sorceress the tome and she'll replace 
the missing gems. Now with regard to the scroll cases from Rynduil, just use 
one of them as you would any item. You'll open all three and the pages will 
appear in the Tome. Incidentally, after unlocking the TOme of Forgotten 
Lore, you can visit Tallys for another page. Right now there are only four, 
but they're handy to have.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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 Hi Jimmy,

 you need the skill of Lore to open these books. When you have it, just try
 to use the skill when you are in the room.
 If you don't have it, you can get in the adventurers collective in 
 Thritik.

 Hth

 Regards
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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.

2008-01-23 Thread Jimmy Odin Kristoffersen
Hi Bryan.

I have tryed, but it did not wurk.
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 Just use one of them as an item.
 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:15 AM
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 Hi.

 I am at last finesh with Proving Grounds V-
 The Silver Crest, but i got a boks From Rynduil, who tolt me to open it 
 in
 the rume in the headquarters of the Silver Crest, i am also going into 
 the
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 How do i do that?

 Thanks.

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[Audyssey] RTS Games was Risk

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jean'Luc,
Yeah, Galcon sounds pretty cool. I've always had an interest in strategy 
and real time strategy type games of that type.
One game I am becoming a huge fan of, but it isn't very accessible, is 
Galaxy Civilization. I just love the concept of starting out with one 
planet, one shuttle type ship, and you build factories, research 
centers, farms, etc to build up your space fleet and concore the galaxy 
if you can.


SoundMUD wrote:
 This reminds me of an RTS game demo I have played recently. It's
 probably totally inaccessible because it is heavily mouse based, but
 its principles may be interesting. It's called Galcon. It's a very
 simplified RTS, with no tech tree, no buildings, no workers, and yet a
 very interesting game. There are only planets, with different
 production rate. If you own one of them, it creates new battle ships.
 The only thing you have to decide is in which planet you send them. In
 a multiplayer game I have played, the players started expanding,
 without going too far, avoiding premature conflicts with their
 neighbors; then, when all the available planets were conquered, the
 players did nothing for a long time, just moving their ships randomly;
 they used a chat system too (a voice chat would have been even
 better), for example to stop a conflict that would have left the 2
 opponents behind the others; and then suddenly one player attacked
 another one, sometimes triggering the attack of another player, trying
 to take the opportunity, etc. A game lasted about 5 to 15 minutes.
 Very interesting game because relatively simple, so you can focus on
 the diplomatic aspect. Probably like in Risk.

 Jean-Luc
   


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Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,
Hmmm... Raul is sane. So I guess I have to kick him off since we are all 
insane. Lol!

Charles Rivard wrote:
 This was very interesting, but you made one big blunder, I think?  You said 
 I could get into various technical details on this, but I won't for your 
 sanity's sake.

 Do you know one list member who is sane?  If so, kick'em off!  They don't 
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Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,
I don't think creating an audio based Audyssey magazine is all that good 
an idea. For one thing I enjoy reading the articles, and you can fit 
allot more content into a magazine rather than an audio style podcast. 
For another have you ever considdered the size of an audio based 
Audyssey magazine? I know some of the blind tech podcasts are large 
enough, and a magazine of any size at all would be huge. Finally, when 
you record articles and interviews that is a podcast not a magazine.


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Re: [Audyssey] Sryth-The Silver Crest.

2008-01-23 Thread Bryan
Then you obviously don't have the tome. If you got it from Stoneback Hill, 
take it to the ruins in the forsts outside Marl's Wood and fight the battles 
with the Catamarok. Then invoke the magic (you need Arcana and Lore at level 
60) and show the tome to the sorceress. Just use it as an item when she asks 
you for it. She'll replace the gems and you'll be able to use the tome. Then 
all you have to do is go to the hidden room in the Silver Crest headquarters 
and use one of the scroll cases. It should work then.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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 Hi Bryan.

 I have tryed, but it did not wurk.
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 Just use one of them as an item.
 Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.

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Re: [Audyssey] a list of nuts - Re: jaws and self voicing games

2008-01-23 Thread darren harris
Dam well the amount of years I've been on this list on and off??? Lol!! 

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Subject: [Audyssey] a list of nuts - Re: jaws and self voicing games


Yes.  The nuttiest is the last to be kicked off.  I think, though, that a 
better solution would be to only allow nuts to join in the first place. 
(grin)

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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games


 Um, lol, so shall we kick everybody off? Lol!

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 Both moderators should remember that they, too, are list members, and 
 that appropriate action should be taken.  Oh, wait a minute, the owner 
 is also a member, isn't he?  (payback time)

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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games


 Hi Charles,
 Hmmm... Raul is sane. So I guess I have to kick him off since we are 
 all insane. Lol!

 Charles Rivard wrote:
 This was very interesting, but you made one big blunder, I think? 
 You said
 I could get into various technical details on this, but I won't for 
 your
 sanity's sake.

 Do you know one list member who is sane?  If so, kick'em off!  They 
 don't fit in!  (ornery grin)

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Re: [Audyssey] SoundRTS

2008-01-23 Thread SoundMUD
Hi. I have obtained a similar result. I will fix this bug in the next release.

Jean-Luc

2008/1/23, Jimmy Odin Kristoffersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi.

 Is it only me who have problems?
 When i save a game in the newest beta and trying to play my saved game cant i 
 bilt, and this is in all maps.
 Why cant i bilt after i restore a saved game?
 Thanks.
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[Audyssey] the games jim and marcy made together

2008-01-23 Thread nicol
Hi jim
I have a couple of questions  regarding the games you and marcy made
together.
1.  in the snakes and ladders game, what did marcy help you with in the
game. In other words, what part of the game development did she fulfill?
2.  the sound  which plays in your pong game when  either me or the computer
fails to return the   volley, that sound is very interesting. I'm very
curious how this sound is physically produced. Is it an electronic
synthetic sound or is it something in real life which also makes that same
sound.
To me it sounds rather  synthetic, but maybe  there is something in real
life which also  makes that same sound.
3.  which other games did you and marcy made and which role did she fulfill
in   development of those games? Did she fulfill any other role in the pong
game than doing the voice over?
4.   I really like your pong game, but I can't beat the computer on easy
difficulty. The beginner level is too easy for me, it gets borring, I win
the computer each time, but the easy level is tricky, its now the fifth
match I play on the easy level and the computer wins me each time.



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[Audyssey] BOPIT

2008-01-23 Thread nicol
I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR BOPIT.
AND PLEASE ROB AND PARAM, SEE IT ASa suggestion, not as a complaint.
Oops, my caps lock was on during the first few lines, didn't meant to
scream;  am to lazy to convert it.
I'm just making it clear beforehand, this is a suggestion how I would like
to see the game in  future releases, because my suggestions for lightcars
was taken up very very negatively by  robjoy.
Ok here goes.
I would like to have a mode in bopit where you instead of presssing the  6
bopit buttons have to  press letters, numbers and punctuation keys.
Because there is a bug in keyboard crazy, a game  developed by vip games
zone.
In keyboard crazy, I'm not sure how to press a punctuation mark requiring
shift.
If the voice says slash I can press it successfully  and get a point.
Say for instance the voice says slash out of the left speaker then I press
control and then slash, but now the voice says question mark.
The game is too fast, I can't figure out, should I  press shift on its own
and then slash or should I hold down shift.
When the voice says question mark, by the time I press shift before I can
press slash it explodes and I loose a life.
So it would be sooo cool, it would rock if bopit could have a mode where
you have to press punctuations,  letters and numbers.


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Re: [Audyssey] We Can Play

2008-01-23 Thread Orin
I Liam,

I personally recomend Jiglu. It's a free list provider which also has  
a dynamic website when you create your list.

Find it at:

http://www.jiglu.com


On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Liam Erven wrote:

 Hi.  I posted earlier this week about the we can play site at 
 www.wecanplay.info 
 .  For those who missed it, it's a wiki which allows people to share  
 info on mainstream games that blind people are playing.  I'm looking  
 at the best way to get a community together.  IF anyone has any  
 suggestions on what would be a decent mailing list provider, let me  
 know.  Also, don't forget to check out the site and contribute.   
 I've posted up info on battle arena toshinden 3, and I'll be working  
 all day to try and add more information.

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[Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Che
  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, thought 
you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for 
accessible games as well, any thoughts?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds of 
votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever Blind
Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies and 
individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible hardware,
software, and design.

Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the Best 
New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book player
was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled Humanware 
to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first 
commercially-available
device to play the new digital book format provided by the National Library 
Service.

Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best Software 
category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the package
includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of interest. 
One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success, Charles La Pierre,
was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users showed 
in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 100 ballots
were processed during the contest, which included both write-in nomination and 
voting rounds.

Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access product 
of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline Simulations'
Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's tightest race.

The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and 
online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top Tech 
Tidbits
Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's Head 
Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both resources
include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant and 
interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was recognized as
the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells hundreds of 
items from talking watches to playing cards.

For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals, and 
articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can find the
lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and software 
through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include user forums,
an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal.

J.J.
www.BlindBargains.com
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Che,
Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
Here is the results and the other nominees:
6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any 
operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
L-Works Duck Hunt,
KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
Phil



- Original Message - 
From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, 
 thought you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for 
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

 HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

 Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds 
 of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever 
 Blind
 Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies 
 and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible 
 hardware,
 software, and design.

 Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the 
 Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book 
 player
 was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled 
 Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first 
 commercially-available
 device to play the new digital book format provided by the National 
 Library Service.

 Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best Software 
 category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the 
 package
 includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of 
 interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success, 
 Charles La Pierre,
 was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

 We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users 
 showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 100 
 ballots
 were processed during the contest, which included both write-in nomination 
 and voting rounds.

 Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access 
 product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline 
 Simulations'
 Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's tightest 
 race.

 The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and 
 online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top Tech 
 Tidbits
 Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's 
 Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both 
 resources
 include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant 
 and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was 
 recognized as
 the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells hundreds 
 of items from talking watches to playing cards.

 For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
 http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

 BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals, 
 and articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can 
 find the
 lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and 
 software through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include user 
 forums,
 an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal.

 J.J.
 www.BlindBargains.com
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Che
  Hi Phil,
  I actually asked JJ about that because I definately thought Sarah should 
have been on that list, but he said it was released in 2006, I'm not sure 
where he got his info.
  I myself did not even know of the awards until today, so I am not sure who 
nominated RR for it, he said several folks nominated it, but didn't tell me 
who.  That is really too bad, because unless I am mistaken Sarah didn't 
actually get released until 2007, right?
  Thanks for the congrats man.  What do you think of the idea of the list 
having a yearly awards for various game categories?

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 Hi Che,
 Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
 Here is the results and the other nominees:
 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any
 operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

 Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
 Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
 L-Works Duck Hunt,
 KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

 I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
 Phil



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today,
 thought you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

 HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

 Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds
 of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever
 Blind
 Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies
 and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible
 hardware,
 software, and design.

 Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the
 Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book
 player
 was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled
 Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first
 commercially-available
 device to play the new digital book format provided by the National
 Library Service.

 Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best 
 Software
 category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the
 package
 includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of
 interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success,
 Charles La Pierre,
 was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

 We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users
 showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 
 100
 ballots
 were processed during the contest, which included both write-in 
 nomination
 and voting rounds.

 Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access
 product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline
 Simulations'
 Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's 
 tightest
 race.

 The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and
 online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top 
 Tech
 Tidbits
 Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's
 Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both
 resources
 include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant
 and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was
 recognized as
 the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells 
 hundreds
 of items from talking watches to playing cards.

 For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
 http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

 BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals,
 and articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can
 find the
 lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and
 software through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include 
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
Congrats Che. I think Monty's going to win 08's best accesible game.. I
think Sarah would have done just as well

-Ryan Smith
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Che,
I put a beta version of Sarah out December 31, 2006 but did not sell the 
game until March 15, 2007.
 Thanks for asking.
Phil

- Original Message - 
From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi Phil,
  I actually asked JJ about that because I definately thought Sarah should
 have been on that list, but he said it was released in 2006, I'm not sure
 where he got his info.
  I myself did not even know of the awards until today, so I am not sure 
 who
 nominated RR for it, he said several folks nominated it, but didn't tell 
 me
 who.  That is really too bad, because unless I am mistaken Sarah didn't
 actually get released until 2007, right?
  Thanks for the congrats man.  What do you think of the idea of the list
 having a yearly awards for various game categories?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 Hi Che,
 Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
 Here is the results and the other nominees:
 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any
 operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

 Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
 Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
 L-Works Duck Hunt,
 KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

 I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
 Phil



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today,
 thought you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

 HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

 Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and 
 hundreds
 of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever
 Blind
 Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies
 and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible
 hardware,
 software, and design.

 Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the
 Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book
 player
 was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled
 Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first
 commercially-available
 device to play the new digital book format provided by the National
 Library Service.

 Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best
 Software
 category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the
 package
 includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of
 interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success,
 Charles La Pierre,
 was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

 We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users
 showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over
 100
 ballots
 were processed during the contest, which included both write-in
 nomination
 and voting rounds.

 Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access
 product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline
 Simulations'
 Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's
 tightest
 race.

 The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, 
 and
 online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top
 Tech
 Tidbits
 Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's 
 Fred's
 Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both
 resources
 include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant
 and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was
 recognized as
 the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells
 hundreds
 of items from talking watches to playing cards.

 For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
 http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

 BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals,
 and articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can
 find the
 lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and
 software through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include
 user
 forums,
 an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal.

 J.J.
 www.BlindBargains.com
 Deals, news, and resources for the blind and visually impaired
 ---
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread shaun everiss
that sounds good.
At 11:07 a.m. 24/01/2008, you wrote:
  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, thought 
 you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for 
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds of 
votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever Blind
Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies and 
individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible hardware,
software, and design.

Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the Best 
New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book player
was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled Humanware 
to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first 
commercially-available
device to play the new digital book format provided by the National Library 
Service.

Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best Software 
category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the package
includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of interest. 
One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success, Charles La Pierre,
was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users showed 
in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 100 ballots
were processed during the contest, which included both write-in nomination and 
voting rounds.

Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access 
product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline 
Simulations'
Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's tightest 
race.

The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and 
online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top Tech 
Tidbits
Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's Head 
Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both resources
include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant and 
interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was recognized as
the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells hundreds of 
items from talking watches to playing cards.

For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals, and 
articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can find the
lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and software 
through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include user forums,
an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal.

J.J.
www.BlindBargains.com
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Charles Rivard
If I had known that voting was going on, I would have voted for it if I were 
eligible.

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- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 Hi Che,
 Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
 Here is the results and the other nominees:
 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any
 operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

 Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
 Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
 L-Works Duck Hunt,
 KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

 I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
 Phil



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today,
 thought you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

 HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

 Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds
 of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever
 Blind
 Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies
 and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible
 hardware,
 software, and design.

 Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the
 Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book
 player
 was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled
 Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first
 commercially-available
 device to play the new digital book format provided by the National
 Library Service.

 Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best 
 Software
 category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the
 package
 includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of
 interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success,
 Charles La Pierre,
 was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

 We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users
 showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 
 100
 ballots
 were processed during the contest, which included both write-in 
 nomination
 and voting rounds.

 Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access
 product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline
 Simulations'
 Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's 
 tightest
 race.

 The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and
 online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top 
 Tech
 Tidbits
 Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's
 Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both
 resources
 include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant
 and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was
 recognized as
 the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells 
 hundreds
 of items from talking watches to playing cards.

 For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
 http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

 BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals,
 and articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can
 find the
 lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and
 software through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include 
 user
 forums,
 an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal.

 J.J.
 www.BlindBargains.com
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Charles Rivard
The games of the year idea is right up Audyssey Magazine's alley.  Fact 
is, wasn't it done one year?  Just thinking out loud on this one.

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- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 Hi Che,
 I put a beta version of Sarah out December 31, 2006 but did not sell the
 game until March 15, 2007.
 Thanks for asking.
 Phil

 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi Phil,
  I actually asked JJ about that because I definately thought Sarah should
 have been on that list, but he said it was released in 2006, I'm not sure
 where he got his info.
  I myself did not even know of the awards until today, so I am not sure
 who
 nominated RR for it, he said several folks nominated it, but didn't tell
 me
 who.  That is really too bad, because unless I am mistaken Sarah didn't
 actually get released until 2007, right?
  Thanks for the congrats man.  What do you think of the idea of the list
 having a yearly awards for various game categories?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 Hi Che,
 Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
 Here is the results and the other nominees:
 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any
 operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

 Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
 Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
 L-Works Duck Hunt,
 KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

 I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
 Phil



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today,
 thought you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

 HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

 Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and
 hundreds
 of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever
 Blind
 Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies
 and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible
 hardware,
 software, and design.

 Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both 
 the
 Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio 
 book
 player
 was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled
 Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first
 commercially-available
 device to play the new digital book format provided by the National
 Library Service.

 Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best
 Software
 category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the
 package
 includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of
 interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success,
 Charles La Pierre,
 was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

 We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users
 showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over
 100
 ballots
 were processed during the contest, which included both write-in
 nomination
 and voting rounds.

 Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access
 product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline
 Simulations'
 Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's
 tightest
 race.

 The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers,
 and
 online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top
 Tech
 Tidbits
 Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's
 Fred's
 Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both
 resources
 include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant
 and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was
 recognized as
 the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells
 hundreds
 of items from talking watches to playing cards.

 For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit
 http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php

 BlindBargains.com is a premier 

Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Che,
First, I'd like to congratulate you on your award for Rail Racer. I 
really think you earned it this year.
However, I am really surprised that no one on this list either knew or 
mentioned that this voting for best accessible game was going on. The 
web site states that they polled hundreds of voters, and yet the largest 
comunity of blind gamers wasn't told about the voting? What  is up with 
that?
As for your idea of the list having its own yearly voting for awards or 
games etc I really like the idea. I'll talk to Kevin and Raul and see 
what they think.


Che wrote:
   Hi all,
   I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, thought 
 you all would be interested.
   It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for 
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?
   


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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Dark
this is a surprise to me as well. there's certainly been nothing about it on 
the audiogames.net forum as far as I know. I don't know if they counted that 
2006 beta of Sarah as a release (slightly odd if they did), but if so, then 
by that logic where was Monti?

Not to mention sound rts, Bg Word targit and Uno, Treasuremania, chopper 
patrol, wrecking ball and quite a few others.

I deffinately think Audeasy should run a similar set of awards,  and as 
Thom suggested, multiple catagories of awards as well. It's something lots 
of gaming organizations from magazines to companies have done with graphical 
games (including freeware and shareware ones), for years, and actually 
thinking about it I'm slightly surprised we haven't. Stil, it's easily 
fixable.

Stil though, many congratulations to che as well.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


  Yup, I agree, was there something on the audio games forum about it? I'm
 not sure where they got their voters myself.  The first I heard of it was
 today when JJ let me know I had won, which was rather odd.
  At any rate, it would be a rather simple thing to have our own vote on a
 website, with multiple categories such as best action game, best strategy,
 best music etc.
  Later,
  Che

 - Original Message - 
 From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 Hi Che,
 First, I'd like to congratulate you on your award for Rail Racer. I
 really think you earned it this year.
 However, I am really surprised that no one on this list either knew or
 mentioned that this voting for best accessible game was going on. The
 web site states that they polled hundreds of voters, and yet the largest
 comunity of blind gamers wasn't told about the voting? What  is up with
 that?
 As for your idea of the list having its own yearly voting for awards or
 games etc I really like the idea. I'll talk to Kevin and Raul and see
 what they think.


 Che wrote:
   Hi all,
   I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today,
 thought you all would be interested.
   It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?



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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,
Don't feel bad Montezuma's Return didn't receive one vote either. 
Actually, I am surprise Sarah wasn't even listed. Someone should talk to 
them and ask them why Sarah wasn't even considered for the 2007 awards, 
and why on earth if they were going to do them not to poll this list. 
I'm still miffed about that.
I understand why Montezuma's Return might not have been considered 
seeing it was only in Beta testing, but there was no excuse for Sarah 
not to be listed.


Phil Vlasak wrote:
 Hi Che,
 Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
 Here is the results and the other nominees:
 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any 
 operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

 Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
 Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
 L-Works Duck Hunt,
 KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

 I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
 Phil
   


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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Che,
That is correct. Sarah was in beta testing throughout 2005 and 2006, but 
wasn't officially released until 2007. So wherever JJ got his 
information was flat out wrong, and should be corrected immediately.
I am not saying you did not deserve the award, because Rail Racer is a 
darn good game. However, I equally hate seeing Phil's  Sarah game get 
shafted out of being recognised as a nomination since it was an equally 
good game, and should have been factored in the voting. Someone should 
write JJ and have them put up a public apology for this oversight, and 
then tell them next time to get their facts strait.
Further more, the entire voting thing about having hundreds of people 
voting sounds fishy to me. There is a list of 200 hundred members on 
this list and not one person said anything about the voting? The 
developers didn't even know about their games were up for an award? Am I 
missing something or did this thing just come out of the blue, and are 
they doing this as a total insider thing?
Although, I am beginning to think about your previous suggestion of 
doing something like this on the list. We could pick a panel of judges, 
obviously non-developers, to test and play the games, and they could 
judge, or set up a voting list to vote for the best games in certain 
catagories in January of each year. What are your thoughts?


Che wrote:
   Hi Phil,
   I actually asked JJ about that because I definately thought Sarah should 
 have been on that list, but he said it was released in 2006, I'm not sure 
 where he got his info.
   I myself did not even know of the awards until today, so I am not sure who 
 nominated RR for it, he said several folks nominated it, but didn't tell me 
 who.  That is really too bad, because unless I am mistaken Sarah didn't 
 actually get released until 2007, right?
   Thanks for the congrats man.  What do you think of the idea of the list 
 having a yearly awards for various game categories?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


   
 Hi Che,
 Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007!
 Here is the results and the other nominees:
 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any
 operating system. It must have been released in 2007.

 Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer
 Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate,
 L-Works Duck Hunt,
 KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley

 I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game.
 Phil



 - Original Message - 
 From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year


 
  Hi all,
  I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today,
 thought you all would be interested.
  It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for
 accessible games as well, any thoughts?

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS

 HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS

 Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds
 of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever
 Blind
 Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies
 and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible
 hardware,
 software, and design.

 Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the
 Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book
 player
 was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled
 Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first
 commercially-available
 device to play the new digital book format provided by the National
 Library Service.

 Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best 
 Software
 category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the
 package
 includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of
 interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success,
 Charles La Pierre,
 was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year.

 We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users
 showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 
 100
 ballots
 were processed during the contest, which included both write-in 
 nomination
 and voting rounds.

 Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access
 product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline
 Simulations'
 Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's 
 tightest
 race.

 The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and
 online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's 

Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan,
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I know Montezuma's Return has started 
doing well after the Christmas sales etc, but I'm not as yet certain if 
it would win the best game of the year award.

Ryan Smith wrote:
 Hi,
 Congrats Che. I think Monty's going to win 08's best accesible game.. I
 think Sarah would have done just as well

 -Ryan Smith
 Head of RSG/Dev At X-Sight
 *SP And Boss are being implmented, SDM Beta 3 coming around!*
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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
I seam to remember everyone talking about kicking the idea around, but I 
don't think it ever got done. Perhaps we can talk to Ron and some well 
known folks in the comunity and try and get a best ggame of 2007 awards 
thing going on Audyssey.org.
If this is something of interest to people perhaps I can ask Raul for 
the web site login information and write a nice php feedback form which 
sends all the voting results to Ron or someone who will count and tally 
the results for 2007.


Charles Rivard wrote:
 The games of the year idea is right up Audyssey Magazine's alley.  Fact 
 is, wasn't it done one year?  Just thinking out loud on this one.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Che,
As far as I know at this point neither the Audyssey list or the Audio 
Games forum were informed that this vote was going on. All I can guess 
is that JJ must have run it through some lists they own or use and 
perhaps they figured that word would spread to the rest of the blind 
comunity by word of mouth or by someone forwarding announcements to key 
lists. I really don't know. I do know nothing was passed through this 
list or I would have seen it.
After I get up tomorrow I plan to email JJ and ask him how they selected 
their voters, and secondly ask him to please post announcements of this 
nature to the Audyssey owner address so Raul and I can pass the rest of 
the info on to the list. I am certain that you, Charles, and I aren't 
the only ones who were left totally in the dark about this vote.
As for hosting our own awards it is no problem. I plan to talk to Raul 
first thing tomorrow about it, and if he agrees with it I will write up 
a php form to handle the voting, and either Raul or I could put it on 
the Audyssey.org site to do the awards.


Che wrote:
   Yup, I agree, was there something on the audio games forum about it? I'm 
 not sure where they got their voters myself.  The first I heard of it was 
 today when JJ let me know I had won, which was rather odd.
   At any rate, it would be a rather simple thing to have our own vote on a 
 website, with multiple categories such as best action game, best strategy, 
 best music etc.
   Later,
   Che
   


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Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year

2008-01-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Yeah, 2007 was a big year for game releases. It had more game releases 
than several other years, and I was rather surprised that only a handful 
was listed on the site for voting. 

Dark wrote:
 this is a surprise to me as well. there's certainly been nothing about it on 
 the audiogames.net forum as far as I know. I don't know if they counted that 
 2006 beta of Sarah as a release (slightly odd if they did), but if so, then 
 by that logic where was Monti?

 Not to mention sound rts, Bg Word targit and Uno, Treasuremania, chopper 
 patrol, wrecking ball and quite a few others.

 I deffinately think Audeasy should run a similar set of awards,  and as 
 Thom suggested, multiple catagories of awards as well. It's something lots 
 of gaming organizations from magazines to companies have done with graphical 
 games (including freeware and shareware ones), for years, and actually 
 thinking about it I'm slightly surprised we haven't. Stil, it's easily 
 fixable.

 Stil though, many congratulations to che as well.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.
   


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