[Audyssey] Article about Interactive Fiction for Spag magazine
Hi all, I have emailed the editor of Spag magazine for players of Interactive Fiction. I got a reply, but, because of some attachments, which I don't know how exactly to remove because it would go over the size of messages for the list, I have forwarded the message to Thomas. Anyway, the point of this message is that Spag magazine would like an article about us as blind players playing interactive fiction, the next issue is coming out in a month's time. I am quite an amateur in IF, and still haven't tried out many interpreters and so on, so could someone who has more experience then I do with IF write the article about playing IF from a blind person's perspective, maybe saying what interpreters don't work well, how it's done, I don't know, just a general thing to make people more aware of us. There are some things I'd like whoever writes the article to highlight, though, like the, if we put in that we're still having problems getting these Pocket Interpreters to work on the Pac Mate, maybe someone would in the IF community would be prepared to modify them a bit, as the Source Code is freely available, and maybe other issues if there are still accessibility problems or just anything. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] one more thing
One other thing for the article which I forgot to mention, the problem that some text games need you to see graphics to solve them, an example would be the Quest game about you in a hotel trying to solve a murder. If noone with more experience has the time twrite the article, I'll be happy to try, but I'm worried it will not be accurate. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Article about Interactive Fiction for Spag magazine
I'd love to write that article. It would be a great chancee for me to get published. (grin) Kelby Doomed Dragon You're asking if we have a problem? Well, let's see here--we have a fully armed regiment of soldiers on our tail who have a strong desire to kill or mame us horribly. Does this look like a problem to you? --Rad Zane, the Elementalists Things are about to get very ugly, very fast. You guys leave--I'll clean up the mess. --Tiana Rose, the Elementalists Oh, there's only a hundred of them. Let's rock! --Mark Barrington, the Elementalists Hey, bumblehead! Did a fire hydrant unload on you or was that just me blasting through your defenses? --Adrian Fleck, the Elementalists - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:59:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Audyssey] Article about Interactive Fiction for Spag magazine Hi all, I have emailed the editor of Spag magazine for players of Interactive Fiction. I got a reply, but, because of some attachments, which I don't know how exactly to remove because it would go over the size of messages for the list, I have forwarded the message to Thomas. Anyway, the point of this message is that Spag magazine would like an article about us as blind players playing interactive fiction, the next issue is coming out in a month's time. I am quite an amateur in IF, and still haven't tried out many interpreters and so on, so could someone who has more experience then I do with IF write the article about playing IF from a blind person's perspective, maybe saying what interpreters don't work well, how it's done, I don't know, just a general thing to make people more aware of us. There are some things I'd like whoever writes the article to highlight, though, like the, if we put in that we're still having problems getting these Pocket Interpreters to work on the Pac Mate, maybe someone would in the IF community would be prepared to modify them a bit, as the Source Code is freely available, and maybe other issues if there are still accessibility problems or just anything. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Article about Interactive Fiction for Spag magazine
OK then, here's the editor's address. It's Jimmy Maher, and the add is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
But since when were the Torgons noted for their compassion? A race like that probably follows the most threatening one among them because they're all scared to death of him, and more likely than not he generally doesn't give a rat's arse about them. I actually liked the way it played out. It was kinda funny. Then you find out he's a wuss at heart after you pummel him enough. If everyone cared and nobody cried If everyone loved and nobody lied If everyone shared and swallowed their pride Then we'd see the day when nobody died. Nickelback, If Everyone Cared - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:16 AM Subject: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
I sort of got the impression that the leader was the brains of the outfit, - maybe the one who designs all the torgon's bombs and guns and such, rather than being the biggist and toughest Torgon, - which (as Bryan said), he obviously isn't. that old So you've dealt with my troups, now I'm going to have to distroy you myself line gets rather old imho. Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Audiogames and Kevin?
hi, i'm still here. just a lot going on in my personal life at the minute, so the gamers list isn't a priority for now. i know i can leave it all in the capable hands of raul and tom! smile. i'll be back posting and contributing once things have settled down around here. kevin - (lord l) Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Audiogames and Kevin? Hi all, Just wondering, but what has happened, first to Richard from audiogames.net, he hasn't posted on here for absolute ages, and also Kevin, our owner, can't even remember when last he's posted either? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] keygen
hi the keygen.exe file is missing from the self destruct package that's abandon ware. has anyone else noticed this? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
Hi, No, Peru is not an island. It is a country on the South American continent. You guys need to brush up on your geography lessons. Smile nicol wrote: Thanks, I've learned something! However, I thought peru is an island. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Well, My guess is because it's over rated and has been used 143873 times. Lol. Seriously though. I agree with you in that aspect. - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:16 AM Subject: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
I dunno. I thought it was creative. I guess mainly cause I did the leader voice. shrugs. - Original Message - From: Tj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Well, My guess is because it's over rated and has been used 143873 times. Lol. Seriously though. I agree with you in that aspect. - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:16 AM Subject: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Moderator off topic message piracy of judgment day
Hi all, The geography questions are off topic for the list. Could you please take the questions off the list.? Thanks. nicol wrote: Then the Caribbean islands and mexico should also be in south America, right? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] cops game and panzers in North Africa
Hi list, I was doing some reminiscing today and thought about those 2 games mentioned in the subject line. I remember installing Panzers from the floppy disc. smile I was introduced to the world of audio gaming via my Kurzweil 1000 disc. For those who don't know, Kurzweil 1000 has an extras folder on it with many accessible programs and games. I remember the cops game, Monopoly, Maze, Mobious, and many other games I tried during that time. I bought the floppy version of Panzers in North Africa and Monopoly somewhere around 1999-2000. The play was kind of slow and choppy, but I really enjoyed those games. Thanks Jim Kitchen for making a more smoother version of Monopoly to play. Is anyone working on a more recent version of Cops and Panzers in North Africa? I really enjoyed the theme and play of those games, especially Panzers. Having the various weapons and tanks was great. I know David Greenwood did GMA Tank Commander, but It is not the same type of game. Thanks for reading and allowing me to share. AC --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] live gaming now
HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow and then I stream video games the audio only at http://listen.liamerven.com you can either punch that in your favorite media player like winamp, or you can visit the page and click on the listen link right now I'm playing mlb the show 2006, but sometimes it varys. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now
Lol I was there, and I emailed him about it he said it was play station 2, and then he played another one but I disconnected to find a messenger for linux. But that's not the point... On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:11:55 +0100, Claudio wrote: Hello Liam! I hear now your show. Can you say to mee what game your play? I know that it is baseball but ccan you say to mee where i can find it? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now
Hello Liam! I hear now your show. Can you say to mee what game your play? I know that it is baseball but ccan you say to mee where i can find it? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
true -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Hi Nicol, Well, I can't answer for Philip, but perhaps the I am the big bad boss speech is way over used in games. I've seen it in Tomb Raider, Star Wars, etc and it is so common you can almost figure out what the boss is going to say. Having the leader asleep and unaware of what is going on is a unique twist. Different anyway. nicol wrote: Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Hi lol, I like when the leader starts, like, sobbing because you defeated him. God that's an interesting twist. Maybe he was tired of that I am da big bad boss kind of thing, as you say, because Philip put that in Dark Destroyer, so maybe he wanted a change. On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:50:13 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Nicol, Well, I can't answer for Philip, but perhaps the I am the big bad boss speech is way over used in games. I've seen it in Tomb Raider, Star Wars, etc and it is so common you can almost figure out what the boss is going to say. Having the leader asleep and unaware of what is going on is a unique twist. Different anyway. nicol wrote: Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Hi Nicol, Well, I can't answer for Philip, but perhaps the I am the big bad boss speech is way over used in games. I've seen it in Tomb Raider, Star Wars, etc and it is so common you can almost figure out what the boss is going to say. Having the leader asleep and unaware of what is going on is a unique twist. Different anyway. nicol wrote: Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] BPC Programs
Hi: Do any of you know the status of BPC Programs and their game treasure hunt? I recently purchased a new computer and as I can not seem to use my old license I was hoping to purchase a new one; however, the links to download the game do not seem to work. Thanks in advance. Regards, Liz Wade No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 2/9/2008 11:54 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Lol, I was wondering how you did that voice liam, since that leader voice in tj sounds nothing like your actual voice. Which is awesome but, I was just curious how you did that. On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:38:43 +0200, nicol wrote: Hay, don't feel bad mate. You did a great job. I was just wondering why it didn't had the usual: You destroyed my troops, so you'll have to deal with me personally. Message. It was just kinda strange to me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj I dunno. I thought it was creative. I guess mainly cause I did the leader voice. shrugs. - Original Message - From: Tj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Well, My guess is because it's over rated and has been used 143873 times. Lol. Seriously though. I agree with you in that aspect. - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:16 AM Subject: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj Spoiler Space I'm slightly disappointed with the way the intro to the torgan leader fight is done. I hoped it would be something like this: Ok, you have destroyed all my armies ! Hmm, nice try. Let me learn you a lesson or 2 boy. But instead the torgan leader is sleeping and tarzan awakes him by running and shouting. What a disloyal torgan leader! He is not even aware that his armies have been killed, he lies asleep while tarzan is busy fighting the torgans! He even didn't said anything to tarzan like: Hay you have destroyed my armies but I will teach you a lesson personally boy ha ha ha He just moans because tarzan waked him up, that's all. So it means that he is not at all aware that his armies have been killed. I wonder why Philip benfall decided on this intro rather than the usual boss intro, ok you have destroyed myarmies, so I'll have to sort you out personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] online quizzes?
Hi all, For example, on facebook, there are many brain tests where you have to solve puzzles and choose from options, you only have a little time to finish these. Does anyone know of more accessible games and puzzles that can be played online that also have time limits, like maybe some clever quizzes or something? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] keygen
Hi William, Actually, it isn't missing from the package. There is an error that installs the file to c:\program files rather than in the Self-Destruct directory. william lomas wrote: hi the keygen.exe file is missing from the self destruct package that's abandon ware. has anyone else noticed this? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
give us an accessible game with sound effects for that Thomas, lol! Seriously, there's this really cool sighted board game, where, I can't remember what it was called, but what happened was the pieces were planes, and you threw dice and moved on a map, trying to answer questions about capitals and stuff, there would be cards you had to draw as well, with chance events like a terrible storm has diverted you to Helsinki. I can't remember exactly, but the aim of the game was I think at the beginning, you drew something that decided from where you started and to where you had to go, something like your flight must go from Washington to Melbourne. I do actually wish there were some fun ways for learning geography, as it's hard to get braille maps here and I'd love to get a better idea where countries are compared to each other. I can of course say that Germany and France, for example, are in Europe, and I think I'm right that they even border each other, but I don't really know who's west of who, or where Ohio and Florida and all the states in the US are when you here people talk about them. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] fast gaming fingers and reflex?
Hi all, This is quite a weird question or thought, I just would please like some feedback and funny stories if anyone has experience of this. I was trying to play running in an olympics computer game with my friend, now, how you run is you press the left and then the right arrow one after the other. What I want to know, is even from small, he has been able to press these arrows or at least, to use his fingers at incredible speeds compared to me. I am really much slower at games that need quick reflexes then he is. My question is, do you guys think that playing more would improve a person's fingerwork? I really find it amazing that people manage to finish games like Troopanum on absolute hard, I don't get anywhere near that, and, is it somehow a strategy, or extremely good reflex and listening? I also find it fascinating at how much the mind plays a part when you want to play. Sometimes, a person wants to play something fast-action, but, if you're not up to it mentally on that day, if you feel relaxed, even if you want to play well you just can't get yourself into the frame of mind to get the best hand-ear coordination possible, and, is it just me, but when you are with friends and want to show them how to do something in a game, nearly all the time that you're on your own, you can do it, but when your friends are there, at the back of your mind you know that you just have to get it right, you know that they're listening, hoping you'll show them how to do something, it's at moments like that that you just can't do it, like, I remember on my Nintendo, on the athletics, if you jump over the high jump bar three times in a row, you get a lovely little alien guy coming down in a jetpack, with cool sound effects, and giving you ten thousand points, but it was almost impossible to do it when you wanted to show your friends! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
Hi, Not only that, but it is sort of funny in a weird way. In games like Shades of Doom you have this long drawn out battle with the boss/bosses and then they all die. In games like Dark Destroyer there is a cool and satisfying victory over your enemy. TJ is different. The leader is like super wimpy, and you find out he is a coward. Andy Smith wrote: Hi lol, I like when the leader starts, like, sobbing because you defeated him. God that's an interesting twist. Maybe he was tired of that I am da big bad boss kind of thing, as you say, because Philip put that in Dark Destroyer, so maybe he wanted a change. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hello gamers, Earlier today I received an email from someone who worked for Utopia Technologies, the developers of a game called Montezuma's Return for the PC, and he was asking several pointed questions about conflicts of interest, copyrights, and that sort of thing. USA Games is currently discussing the matter with this individual, and we hope we won't have too many issues with this guy and Utopia Technologies regarding our own Montezuma's Return game. While there are some major differences we aren't sure if that will settle the matter or not. However, if we should encounter any copyright issues with these people, find conflicts of interest, etc we will probably have to make changes in our own game to resolve those issues. I don't think there is any reason to begin pushing panic buttons yet, but I did want to inform all of you that USA Games is being asked some hard questions, and the guy we spoke to felt our game was far too similar to Utopia Technologies game. If that is the case we will make whatever changes is necessary to resolve any haggling with these people. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Well whilst I do agree with that to a point, on the other hand, copywrite is copywrite. You never know, this may even do some good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Sent: 09 February 2008 23:28 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement It's not just Americans though. It's people the world over. Though I personally agree with trying to avoid opyright infringement where possible i also know that it's nearly impossible for devs to make a game for the blind without stepping on at least one person's shoes. But there's still that strong part of me that feels it's their own fault anyways for not considering the blind gaming ommunity years ago. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:20 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] online quizzes?
Hi Ari , The following URL might be what you are looking for: www.funtrivia.com/ I don't know which groups of questions are timed though. rich - Original Message - From: ari Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:05 PM Hi all, For example, on facebook, there are many brain tests where you have to solve puzzles and choose from options, you only have a little time to finish these. Does anyone know of more accessible games and puzzles that can be played online that also have time limits, like maybe some clever quizzes or something? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Thomas, There are sites saying this company doesn't even exist anymore, so how can they trademark the game like that? If they're not even existing, my guess is could this just be sour grapes and an excuse to try and get something by threatening? If they don't even exist anymore, how can they even have a case so petty, there's someone there with too much time on his hands. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
It's not just Americans though. It's people the world over. Though I personally agree with trying to avoid opyright infringement where possible i also know that it's nearly impossible for devs to make a game for the blind without stepping on at least one person's shoes. But there's still that strong part of me that feels it's their own fault anyways for not considering the blind gaming ommunity years ago. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
But the copywrite still exists even if the company doesn't. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:28 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Thomas, There are sites saying this company doesn't even exist anymore, so how can they trademark the game like that? If they're not even existing, my guess is could this just be sour grapes and an excuse to try and get something by threatening? If they don't even exist anymore, how can they even have a case so petty, there's someone there with too much time on his hands. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hmm. Maybe another name change rather than a game modification? --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Hello gamers, Earlier today I received an email from someone who worked for Utopia Technologies, the developers of a game called Montezuma's Return for the PC, and he was asking several pointed questions about conflicts of interest, copyrights, and that sort of thing. USA Games is currently discussing the matter with this individual, and we hope we won't have too many issues with this guy and Utopia Technologies regarding our own Montezuma's Return game. While there are some major differences we aren't sure if that will settle the matter or not. However, if we should encounter any copyright issues with these people, find conflicts of interest, etc we will probably have to make changes in our own game to resolve those issues. I don't think there is any reason to begin pushing panic buttons yet, but I did want to inform all of you that USA Games is being asked some hard questions, and the guy we spoke to felt our game was far too similar to Utopia Technologies game. If that is the case we will make whatever changes is necessary to resolve any haggling with these people. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Before this goes too far, did anyone notice that there's no need to panic? I figure that it can be reasonably worked out in, hopefully, a friendly way. If a game previously existed with the same name, and the game was basically like the USA Games product, and the developer of the older game is no longer selling the game, maybe something as simple as a disclaimer can be added in the instructions or license agreement or something. Who knows. For now, Thomas is merely letting us all know what's come up, and I appreciate it. Before we start cutting someone else down, or before we use blindness as a reason why he should be allowed to produce a game for blind people that someone else has had the chance to and did not, let's let the chips fall where they may, let them work things out, and then we can post whatever, as long as we do it reasonably? Thanks. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:20 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Well yes like I say you never know this may even do our lot some favours in the long run. It's certainly got someone elses attention which doesn't actually have to be a bad thing. On the outset it looks bad but it doesn't actually have to be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: 10 February 2008 02:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Before this goes too far, did anyone notice that there's no need to panic? I figure that it can be reasonably worked out in, hopefully, a friendly way. If a game previously existed with the same name, and the game was basically like the USA Games product, and the developer of the older game is no longer selling the game, maybe something as simple as a disclaimer can be added in the instructions or license agreement or something. Who knows. For now, Thomas is merely letting us all know what's come up, and I appreciate it. Before we start cutting someone else down, or before we use blindness as a reason why he should be allowed to produce a game for blind people that someone else has had the chance to and did not, let's let the chips fall where they may, let them work things out, and then we can post whatever, as long as we do it reasonably? Thanks. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:20 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
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Hi Ari, For the record the person I was emailing today didn't say anything about suing me. At this point all he has done is ask me a lot of questions about conflicts of interests, how I obtained the copyrights to Montezuma's Return, how similar my game is to the Utopia title, etc. I am hoping this is just some confusion on his part. I did explain that my game is an accessible game, made for blind and low vision users, and while it is similar to Montezuma's Revenge it is also different. I am hoping those diferences and the fact it is not a video game, per say, they will just leave me alone. Though, after this little run in I am strongly thinking about changing the name of the game again. While I like the name I have for the game I would rather it not come up in search engines under Montezuma's Return which is a trade mark of another company. As for suing it is a sad fact people are sue happy over here in the USA. When a woman can order hot coffee, spill it on herself, and then sue McDonald's for selling her hot coffee and win you know something is wrong with the legal system. I heard of a case involving a lawyer who payed for a pack of cigars, insured them for fire damage, smoked them, and then sued the insurance company for not paying him after his cigars were smoked and won. My point is that suing over here is often rediculous, but is a part of life. ari wrote: really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Bryan and all, Unfortunately, big corperations and even some smaller corperations don't see it exactly the same way. If it wasn't for laws like Section 508 software accessibility would still be worse than it is today. Do to Section 508 a lot more companies are considering accessibility more than they use to, but Section 508 doesn't apply to some applications like games, software produced before Section 508, and there are probably a lot of other loop holes to use. When it comes to game copyrights it is true it is very tough not to step on some companies toes because a lot of us just want to create a game we already know or wish we could play but can't. Unfortunately, it is a huge question of how the law would decide accessibility vs copyright infringement. Bryan wrote: It's not just Americans though. It's people the world over. Though I personally agree with trying to avoid copyright infringement where possible i also know that it's nearly impossible for devs to make a game for the blind without stepping on at least one person's shoes. But there's still that strong part of me that feels it's their own fault anyways for not considering the blind gaming community years ago. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That depends at least partially on the other guy though, how willing he is to listen and work with Thomas to find an easy solution. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Before this goes too far, did anyone notice that there's no need to panic? I figure that it can be reasonably worked out in, hopefully, a friendly way. If a game previously existed with the same name, and the game was basically like the USA Games product, and the developer of the older game is no longer selling the game, maybe something as simple as a disclaimer can be added in the instructions or license agreement or something. Who knows. For now, Thomas is merely letting us all know what's come up, and I appreciate it. Before we start cutting someone else down, or before we use blindness as a reason why he should be allowed to produce a game for blind people that someone else has had the chance to and did not, let's let the chips fall where they may, let them work things out, and then we can post whatever, as long as we do it reasonably? Thanks. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:20 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL
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Games we'd like to play. Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive. Home of Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma. In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring treasure hunter, willing to risk copyright infringement to find and recover the secret treasures of Emperor Montezuma In this demo you will be able to explore dark and eerie under ground temples searching for treasures, trying to overcome such creatures as rolling skulls, giant spiders, and annoying lawyers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I can assure you in one form or another the game will be completed. It is just a question of how the final product will be, and under what name it will be sold under. Instead of bouncing and rolling skulls maybe I can use sword wielding skelitons. Perhaps I can add this or that to the game or game levels that will make it different from the way it was intended originally. Darren Harris wrote: It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with ya, this is crazy. What similarities are in the two games? On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:27:36 -0700, Bryan wrote: It's not just Americans though. It's people the world over. Though I personally agree with trying to avoid opyright infringement where possible i also know that it's nearly impossible for devs to make a game for the blind without stepping on at least one person's shoes. But there's still that strong part of me that feels it's their own fault anyways for not considering the blind gaming ommunity years ago. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh my god someone actually did that Someone told me about that coffee thing but I didn't believe it. Oh my god, people really are crazy... On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:22:47 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ari, For the record the person I was emailing today didn't say anything about suing me. At this point all he has done is ask me a lot of questions about conflicts of interests, how I obtained the copyrights to Montezuma's Return, how similar my game is to the Utopia title, etc. I am hoping this is just some confusion on his part. I did explain that my game is an accessible game, made for blind and low vision users, and while it is similar to Montezuma's Revenge it is also different. I am hoping those diferences and the fact it is not a video game, per say, they will just leave me alone. Though, after this little run in I am strongly thinking about changing the name of the game again. While I like the name I have for the game I would rather it not come up in search engines under Montezuma's Return which is a trade mark of another company. As for suing it is a sad fact people are sue happy over here in the USA. When a woman can order hot coffee, spill it on herself, and then sue McDonald's for selling her hot coffee and win you know something is wrong with the legal system. I heard of a case involving a lawyer who payed for a pack of cigars, insured them for fire damage, smoked them, and then sued the insurance company for not paying him after his cigars were smoked and won. My point is that suing over here is often rediculous, but is a part of life. ari wrote: really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Darren, Correct. The way the U.S. copyright system is set up copyrights will remain the property of a company or individual long after they are discontinued or dead. That is why it is so tricky for an accessible game developer to just come out with a game like Tomb Raider, Star Wars, etc and be legal. Darren Harris wrote: But the copywrite still exists even if the company doesn't. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hi Ari, Yes, it is true that Utopia Technologies no longer is in existance as a company. However, that doesn't matter according to U.S. copyright law. A copyright can be held by a company or individual for the life of that person or company plus an additional amount of years. Either way they still retain the trade marks and copyrights for their Montezuma's Return game, and will do so for a good many years yet. That is just how well protected trade marks and copyrights are in the U.S.A. Strictly legally speaking, the company, or an officer of the former company, can request that USA Games change aspects of our game that conflicts with their copyright holdings. For example, I could be asked to change the name of the game, or change some element/elements in the game that they feel is a conflict of interest. ari wrote: Thomas, There are sites saying this company doesn't even exist anymore, so how can they trademark the game like that? If they're not even existing, my guess is could this just be sour grapes and an excuse to try and get something by threatening? If they don't even exist anymore, how can they even have a case so petty, there's someone there with too much time on his hands. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
And, for now, time will tell, so let's wait. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement That depends at least partially on the other guy though, how willing he is to listen and work with Thomas to find an easy solution. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Before this goes too far, did anyone notice that there's no need to panic? I figure that it can be reasonably worked out in, hopefully, a friendly way. If a game previously existed with the same name, and the game was basically like the USA Games product, and the developer of the older game is no longer selling the game, maybe something as simple as a disclaimer can be added in the instructions or license agreement or something. Who knows. For now, Thomas is merely letting us all know what's come up, and I appreciate it. Before we start cutting someone else down, or before we use blindness as a reason why he should be allowed to produce a game for blind people that someone else has had the chance to and did not, let's let the chips fall where they may, let them work things out, and then we can post whatever, as long as we do it reasonably? Thanks. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:20 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
[Audyssey] cigars on fire - Re: Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Fortunately, justice was served in that case. The cigar manufacturer charged the cigar smoker with a case of arson for each of the cigars, and won far more in damages than the cigar smoker had gotten, plus, he was arrested and, obviously, found guilty. The problems with our court system are, in my opinion, that people will sue for just about anything, lawyers who should know better will take on these people as clients, and they win. If the judges would throw out these ridiculous law suits and charge the people who tie up the courts with them for all court costs plus damages, and charge the lawyers who are so money hungry for bringing the suits to court double what the clients are charged, and if word that this is happening gets out to the public as a message not to continue this practice, our court system could get on with what it is there for. Seeing that justice is served in legitimate cases. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Hi Ari, For the record the person I was emailing today didn't say anything about suing me. At this point all he has done is ask me a lot of questions about conflicts of interests, how I obtained the copyrights to Montezuma's Return, how similar my game is to the Utopia title, etc. I am hoping this is just some confusion on his part. I did explain that my game is an accessible game, made for blind and low vision users, and while it is similar to Montezuma's Revenge it is also different. I am hoping those diferences and the fact it is not a video game, per say, they will just leave me alone. Though, after this little run in I am strongly thinking about changing the name of the game again. While I like the name I have for the game I would rather it not come up in search engines under Montezuma's Return which is a trade mark of another company. As for suing it is a sad fact people are sue happy over here in the USA. When a woman can order hot coffee, spill it on herself, and then sue McDonald's for selling her hot coffee and win you know something is wrong with the legal system. I heard of a case involving a lawyer who payed for a pack of cigars, insured them for fire damage, smoked them, and then sued the insurance company for not paying him after his cigars were smoked and won. My point is that suing over here is often rediculous, but is a part of life. ari wrote: really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Lol! Good one Phil! On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:46:36 -0500, Phil Vlasak wrote: Games we'd like to play. Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive. Home of Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma. In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring treasure hunter, willing to risk copyright infringement to find and recover the secret treasures of Emperor Montezuma In this demo you will be able to explore dark and eerie under ground temples searching for treasures, trying to overcome such creatures as rolling skulls, giant spiders, and annoying lawyers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hi Phil, Hahahaha. As usual you have good humor. Phil Vlasak wrote: Games we'd like to play. Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive. Home of Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma. In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring treasure hunter, willing to risk copyright infringement to find and recover the secret treasures of Emperor Montezuma In this demo you will be able to explore dark and eerie under ground temples searching for treasures, trying to overcome such creatures as rolling skulls, giant spiders, and annoying lawyers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
heheheheheeh, love it! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Hi Phil, Hahahaha. As usual you have good humor. Phil Vlasak wrote: Games we'd like to play. Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive. Home of Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma. In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring treasure hunter, willing to risk copyright infringement to find and recover the secret treasures of Emperor Montezuma In this demo you will be able to explore dark and eerie under ground temples searching for treasures, trying to overcome such creatures as rolling skulls, giant spiders, and annoying lawyers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hi Charles, Could be. Under the circumstances changing the name might be advisable, but it is too early to say one way or another. I am definitly going to use a name change as a consession if it comes to that.. Something like Angela's Quest or something along those lines would be fine. It is still the name game just getting away from entangling trade marks or copyrights. Charles Rivard wrote: Hmm. Maybe another name change rather than a game modification? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hi Charles, Yes, exactly. I said as much at the end of my original post. There is no reason to go pushing panic buttons yet. I merely want to inform or advise everyone that I have been officially contacted/notified, and I am dealing with an unexpected situation. I also don't want to release Beta 10 with some unexpected changes. Wo dude where did that skeliton warrior come from, or why did you name it to Angela's Quest. I believe in letting my customers know what I know it when I know it, or at least inform them of possible changes ahead. Charles Rivard wrote: Before this goes too far, did anyone notice that there's no need to panic? I figure that it can be reasonably worked out in, hopefully, a friendly way. If a game previously existed with the same name, and the game was basically like the USA Games product, and the developer of the older game is no longer selling the game, maybe something as simple as a disclaimer can be added in the instructions or license agreement or something. Who knows. For now, Thomas is merely letting us all know what's come up, and I appreciate it. Before we start cutting someone else down, or before we use blindness as a reason why he should be allowed to produce a game for blind people that someone else has had the chance to and did not, let's let the chips fall where they may, let them work things out, and then we can post whatever, as long as we do it reasonably? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hi, True, but I don't really think there is much room for fighting. Montezuma's Return, the Utopia Technologies version, was released in 1998, and that company is out of business. The game is no longer for sale, and perhaps that is reason for hope. At the very least perhaps they will be satisfied if I change the name of the game, and make something miner like that. i am still awaiting for news. Bryan wrote: That depends at least partially on the other guy though, how willing he is to listen and work with Thomas to find an easy solution. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
I'm sorry to say, But the game that Thomas is making can't really be a copy right issue, as far, as if he using public domain sounds and the fact he is not using any graphical parts of the original game. I'm sure all the levels are not even anywhere near the real game. Heck the coding of the game is probley so far off from the original as well. I really think the person that claiming copy right issue is stupid. Just my two cents. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Hi, I can assure you in one form or another the game will be completed. It is just a question of how the final product will be, and under what name it will be sold under. Instead of bouncing and rolling skulls maybe I can use sword wielding skelitons. Perhaps I can add this or that to the game or game levels that will make it different from the way it was intended originally. Darren Harris wrote: It's got nothing to do with blind people. Stop using that as a point of contention. They are drawing points to the fact that they are saying that the game titles are similar. They won't care nore will a court about the fact that thomas is making it accessible for blind people to play. I like the accessible games and the like but you can't call a fowl play card if someone in the end pulls you up on it. This goes right back to the point we were talking about the other day ref piracy and copywrites. I do hope that thomas can complete his game though because I like what I have read so far with regards to content. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] keygen
No, it's not missing, it's just in the xl studios folder not in the self-destruct folder, so windows can't find the short cut. You can search with windows explorer, or use the Find files or folders command to search for the file keygen.exe. If you absolutely can't find it, let me know and I can mail you a copy. hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: william lomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] keygen hi the keygen.exe file is missing from the self destruct package that's abandon ware. has anyone else noticed this? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: 08/02/2008 20:12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Now, that sure didn't take long to come up with, did it? Dang! It was quick. Are those lawyers the first bugs in the game? (grin) --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Games we'd like to play. Tom Ward's USA Games Interactive. Home of Angela Summers and the Temple of Montezuma. In this fast action, classic side-scroller, you Are Angela Summers, a daring treasure hunter, willing to risk copyright infringement to find and recover the secret treasures of Emperor Montezuma In this demo you will be able to explore dark and eerie under ground temples searching for treasures, trying to overcome such creatures as rolling skulls, giant spiders, and annoying lawyers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] fast gaming fingers and reflex?
Absolutely practice and atitude are everything. Take today for example, when I first played the G force track on railracer, I was absolutely pants at it, even when I'd played it enough times to learn the obxtacles. Today I totally aced the track, and art ate my dust at the catch me if you can level, which was cool! It's ages sinse I've played that particular track, but I was relaxed, and I've played Rr a fair bit more than when i first got to class four. What is weerd though is that sometimes I just get into a great mental state and can waltz my way through a game without trying, and sometimes I have to work at it but can get through, and other times the harder I work, the more pathetically I do, it just depends upon the time and my concentration ability. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Hello tom. It actually makes me rather angry how petty people can be over copyrights. copyright laws were afterall created to protect good ideas and concepts, not to nit pick. this game is plainly not on sale anymore (a quick google for Montizuma's return brought up nothing), so this fool is just making trouble for the sake of making trouble. While he might have a case over the name montizuma's return, the actual game content I should think would be none of his business. even in the mainstream, there have been cases of games which have been so similar in theme as to be incredibly suspect, the original streets of rage and final fight for example, which had incredibly similar gameplay, virtually the same setting with similar levels, - streets, park, bar, finishing in a pent house, - Axle and Cody even dressed in the same geens and T shirt, both had blond hair and wrist bands, and even had the same punch combo. therefore if absolutely necessary make a name change, but I don't see why you would have to alter any game content just to panda to this petty minded individual. rolling skulls, snakes, spiders and all the other monti elements have afterall appeared in many other games, Ghosts and goblins had rolling skulls for example, pitfall had snakes pits and ropes etc. there are even cases of small companies producing commercial retro themed games with almost identical gameplay and game elements (even down to same main character and names), as original games, - I've come across several examples of boulderdash and loadrunner in this line, myself. I hope this isn't going to have to cause you a lot of trouble, sinse obviously you have much better and worth while things to do. Beware the Sue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
I would think that if a game was created that has the same name as a game I have the copyright to, it would be my business as to the newly created game's content. I would get together with this game's creator and work something out. Hopefully, this will be the case. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Hello tom. It actually makes me rather angry how petty people can be over copyrights. copyright laws were afterall created to protect good ideas and concepts, not to nit pick. this game is plainly not on sale anymore (a quick google for Montizuma's return brought up nothing), so this fool is just making trouble for the sake of making trouble. While he might have a case over the name montizuma's return, the actual game content I should think would be none of his business. even in the mainstream, there have been cases of games which have been so similar in theme as to be incredibly suspect, the original streets of rage and final fight for example, which had incredibly similar gameplay, virtually the same setting with similar levels, - streets, park, bar, finishing in a pent house, - Axle and Cody even dressed in the same geens and T shirt, both had blond hair and wrist bands, and even had the same punch combo. therefore if absolutely necessary make a name change, but I don't see why you would have to alter any game content just to panda to this petty minded individual. rolling skulls, snakes, spiders and all the other monti elements have afterall appeared in many other games, Ghosts and goblins had rolling skulls for example, pitfall had snakes pits and ropes etc. there are even cases of small companies producing commercial retro themed games with almost identical gameplay and game elements (even down to same main character and names), as original games, - I've come across several examples of boulderdash and loadrunner in this line, myself. I hope this isn't going to have to cause you a lot of trouble, sinse obviously you have much better and worth while things to do. Beware the Sue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
hi so why was this game even concieved int he first place if it has so many copyright issues what's the point in even developin it any more if loads of version exists already On 9 Feb 2008, at 22:54, Darren Harris wrote: But the copywrite still exists even if the company doesn't. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 09 February 2008 23:28 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Thomas, There are sites saying this company doesn't even exist anymore, so how can they trademark the game like that? If they're not even existing, my guess is could this just be sour grapes and an excuse to try and get something by threatening? If they don't even exist anymore, how can they even have a case so petty, there's someone there with too much time on his hands. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 09/02/2008 11:54 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Only I think if it used the same character names to which you also had copywrite, Eg, if this other Montizumas return had a doctor angela summers. rolling skulls, snakes and other enemies are so generic, that if they were copywrite, not many games at all would be able to use them even if the names were similar, - Eg, both the mainstream games Tetris and columns, which have amazingly similar gameplay and were on rival systems at the time have combo point bonuses, refer to their falling matchable objects as blocks, have a speed mode etc. some games have even taken it further, streetfighter had a wandering martial artist called Ryu, Art of fighting had Ryo. Heck! even names can be mucked about with, the game primal rage even had a character called sauron, - though pronounced soron, not in the traditional tolkeen way. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
Another example. When you think about Mortal Kombat and Raiden. Some other game had that name in it but they spelt it differently and for a while copyright was a problem. - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement Only I think if it used the same character names to which you also had copywrite, Eg, if this other Montizumas return had a doctor angela summers. rolling skulls, snakes and other enemies are so generic, that if they were copywrite, not many games at all would be able to use them even if the names were similar, - Eg, both the mainstream games Tetris and columns, which have amazingly similar gameplay and were on rival systems at the time have combo point bonuses, refer to their falling matchable objects as blocks, have a speed mode etc. some games have even taken it further, streetfighter had a wandering martial artist called Ryu, Art of fighting had Ryo. Heck! even names can be mucked about with, the game primal rage even had a character called sauron, - though pronounced soron, not in the traditional tolkeen way. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now
is there a list where you can put up when you are going to be on or are you always up or what. At 08:20 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow and then I stream video games the audio only at http://listen.liamerven.com you can either punch that in your favorite media player like winamp, or you can visit the page and click on the listen link right now I'm playing mlb the show 2006, but sometimes it varys. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now
it's kind of random, and I don't want to send it to the list everytime as that's kind of spammy and ridiculous. It's something I do randomly. I randomly get bored and play games. I'll think of something, but right now I'm half asleep and I don't have a good idea. you could always join the mailing list at www.wecanplay.info which I've mentioned on list before. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now is there a list where you can put up when you are going to be on or are you always up or what. At 08:20 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow and then I stream video games the audio only at http://listen.liamerven.com you can either punch that in your favorite media player like winamp, or you can visit the page and click on the listen link right now I'm playing mlb the show 2006, but sometimes it varys. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the intro to the final fight in tj
yeah he always tries to get strength when it comes. And he is reall arogant. At 11:14 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: Hi, Not only that, but it is sort of funny in a weird way. In games like Shades of Doom you have this long drawn out battle with the boss/bosses and then they all die. In games like Dark Destroyer there is a cool and satisfying victory over your enemy. TJ is different. The leader is like super wimpy, and you find out he is a coward. Andy Smith wrote: Hi lol, I like when the leader starts, like, sobbing because you defeated him. God that's an interesting twist. Maybe he was tired of that I am da big bad boss kind of thing, as you say, because Philip put that in Dark Destroyer, so maybe he wanted a change. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] fast gaming fingers and reflex?
well if you practiced enough and got used to the sounds I suppose it would. you may want to use a traditional keyboard not the laptop keyboard or a flat cheap laptop like board. Mainly because you end up bashing the keys, and laptop boards are not as durable as normal boards. I still have issues where reverse sterio is concerned, if someting is coming from the right, and then I need to push the oposite key to that I find it dificult probably because I don't play with it like that. At 10:26 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: Hi all, This is quite a weird question or thought, I just would please like some feedback and funny stories if anyone has experience of this. I was trying to play running in an olympics computer game with my friend, now, how you run is you press the left and then the right arrow one after the other. What I want to know, is even from small, he has been able to press these arrows or at least, to use his fingers at incredible speeds compared to me. I am really much slower at games that need quick reflexes then he is. My question is, do you guys think that playing more would improve a person's fingerwork? I really find it amazing that people manage to finish games like Troopanum on absolute hard, I don't get anywhere near that, and, is it somehow a strategy, or extremely good reflex and listening? I also find it fascinating at how much the mind plays a part when you want to play. Sometimes, a person wants to play something fast-action, but, if you're not up to it mentally on that day, if you feel relaxed, even if you want to play well you just can't get yourself into the frame of mind to get the best hand-ear coordination possible, and, is it just me, but when you are with friends and want to show them how to do something in a game, nearly all the time that you're on your own, you can do it, but when your friends are there, at the back of your mind you know that you just have to get it right, you know that they're listening, hoping you'll show them how to do something, it's at moments like that that you just can't do it, like, I remember on my Nintendo, on the athletics, if you jump over the high jump bar three times in a row, you get a lovely little alien guy coming down in a jetpack, with cool sound effects, and giving you ten thousand points, but it was almost impossible to do it when you wanted to show your friends! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
well here I learned in law lectures at tech that you can sue here but the most you can get is something like 40, I am not sure if its correct now, but you can sue all you want but you won't get it, there is a limit here you can sue for. At 01:22 p.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Ari, For the record the person I was emailing today didn't say anything about suing me. At this point all he has done is ask me a lot of questions about conflicts of interests, how I obtained the copyrights to Montezuma's Return, how similar my game is to the Utopia title, etc. I am hoping this is just some confusion on his part. I did explain that my game is an accessible game, made for blind and low vision users, and while it is similar to Montezuma's Revenge it is also different. I am hoping those diferences and the fact it is not a video game, per say, they will just leave me alone. Though, after this little run in I am strongly thinking about changing the name of the game again. While I like the name I have for the game I would rather it not come up in search engines under Montezuma's Return which is a trade mark of another company. As for suing it is a sad fact people are sue happy over here in the USA. When a woman can order hot coffee, spill it on herself, and then sue McDonald's for selling her hot coffee and win you know something is wrong with the legal system. I heard of a case involving a lawyer who payed for a pack of cigars, insured them for fire damage, smoked them, and then sued the insurance company for not paying him after his cigars were smoked and won. My point is that suing over here is often rediculous, but is a part of life. ari wrote: really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Important Montezuma's Return announcement
well we just change the name again tom. If the name clashes and clearly it does, now we know we can just change it again. At 12:20 p.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: really Thomas, feel very sorry for you about this, can't stand bloody evil people like that, these big bullying corporate-types who try and find anything to sue over to just make money, that's the one thing I find not great about America, the culture over there of people just wanting to find problems and suing all the time. It's absolutely disgusting, I mean, how could anyone even confuse them with you, you are making a game for blind people, they're not even bothering to do that anyway. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now
Hi Liam, What's your MSN so I could add it to request stuff and whatnot? Thanks. On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Liam Erven wrote: it's kind of random, and I don't want to send it to the list everytime as that's kind of spammy and ridiculous. It's something I do randomly. I randomly get bored and play games. I'll think of something, but right now I'm half asleep and I don't have a good idea. you could always join the mailing list at www.wecanplay.info which I've mentioned on list before. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now is there a list where you can put up when you are going to be on or are you always up or what. At 08:20 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow and then I stream video games the audio only at http://listen.liamerven.com you can either punch that in your favorite media player like winamp, or you can visit the page and click on the listen link right now I'm playing mlb the show 2006, but sometimes it varys. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is his msn. On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:28:31 -0500, Orin wrote: Hi Liam, What's your MSN so I could add it to request stuff and whatnot? Thanks. On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Liam Erven wrote: it's kind of random, and I don't want to send it to the list everytime as that's kind of spammy and ridiculous. It's something I do randomly. I randomly get bored and play games. I'll think of something, but right now I'm half asleep and I don't have a good idea. you could always join the mailing list at www.wecanplay.info which I've mentioned on list before. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] live gaming now is there a list where you can put up when you are going to be on or are you always up or what. At 08:20 a.m. 10/02/2008, you wrote: HI guys. I don't want to spam the list with this every tiem I do it, bu tnow and then I stream video games the audio only at http://listen.liamerven.com you can either punch that in your favorite media player like winamp, or you can visit the page and click on the listen link right now I'm playing mlb the show 2006, but sometimes it varys. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
