Re: [Audyssey] Wondering about an old baseball game.
Hi Desiree, I'm not sure but I believe you are talking about the baseball game that came with Microsoft Plus for Windows 98. I can't remember the name of it exactly either, but I have a vague memory of it myself. Anyway, it should run on a new system since everything written for Windows 98 was 32-bit, and can be made to work on a new 32-bit and probably a 64-bit Windows system if the dependencies etc were installed. Cheers! On 6/21/13, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, There has been some discussion recently about sports games on list, and it got me thinking. Way back in the late 90's, I remember playing a baseball game which, either by accident or design, I can't remember which, was fully accessible. It was rather simple--if I recall, you would tab to a button that would just generate a random pitch, and it used the sounds that came with Windows systems at that time, the ones for the baseball theme. I actually really liked those sounds, which is probably why it's stuck with me for all these years. It was definitely a Windows application, not a DOS one. I remember playing it on my first computer, which ran Windows 98. I have two questions. First, does anyone remember this game, and what its title was? Second, would it work on a 32 bit version of Windows 7, if I could find it? I would just like to play it again, for nostalgia's sake, even though, as I said, it was pretty simple as far as games go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] See Munkeys are back in the store, plus updates on game progress
Hey guys, sorry for the long delay since the last time I've updated this post. The past few weeks have been very busy, but also quite productive. My buddy Hatred moved up from Texas and we've spent the past few weeks getting him familiar with all of the projects I'm in the middle of. He has been helping me build See Munkeys for the past few days, so once the next big order comes in, I'll be able to have them built and ready to sell at a much faster rate. We also worked on new construction methods and ordered some new tools that cut down on the time and effort needed to put them together. People have been asking when new devices will be in the store, so I'm reporting in to say that the last 7 are listed before I'll have to order new parts. Another reason for the delay was that one of my parts suppliers sent me some bad parts and it threw off my normal routine. As for the RPG, Hatred and I have been going over parts of the game engine that I haven't been happy with. We are improving them by quite a bit actually, so I'm very happy about that. We will also be doing our best to get the duck hunt game out as soon as we can. The engine changes we're making also affect the code for duck hunt, so that's another reason that small game isn't further along, but in the end the changes will be well worth it. They greatly improve sound quality. I hope to do a better job of keeping people updated on my progress. I'll also bug Hatred to make more audio games for himself, haha! Having him here with me is going to really help in just about every way. It is always good to have someone around to lend a helping hand and to keep you motivated when projects drag on and on for long hours. :D LOL! - Aprone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] See Munkeys are back in the store, plus updates on game progress
well its good to keep updated was wandering where you were hiding. Yes its good to have extra staff to help with your projects, um should I say minions you being the swamp zombie master and all that. Yeah minions. I wander if you could release a vid or audio or something about the construction of the c monkey, and how its done from parts and whats in it to assembly I am sure some friends would like to see that. At 07:35 AM 6/23/2013, you wrote: Hey guys, sorry for the long delay since the last time I've updated this post. The past few weeks have been very busy, but also quite productive. My buddy Hatred moved up from Texas and we've spent the past few weeks getting him familiar with all of the projects I'm in the middle of. He has been helping me build See Munkeys for the past few days, so once the next big order comes in, I'll be able to have them built and ready to sell at a much faster rate. We also worked on new construction methods and ordered some new tools that cut down on the time and effort needed to put them together. People have been asking when new devices will be in the store, so I'm reporting in to say that the last 7 are listed before I'll have to order new parts. Another reason for the delay was that one of my parts suppliers sent me some bad parts and it threw off my normal routine. As for the RPG, Hatred and I have been going over parts of the game engine that I haven't been happy with. We are improving them by quite a bit actually, so I'm very happy about that. We will also be doing our best to get the duck hunt game out as soon as we can. The engine changes we're making also affect the code for duck hunt, so that's another reason that small game isn't further along, but in the end the changes will be well worth it. They greatly improve sound quality. I hope to do a better job of keeping people updated on my progress. I'll also bug Hatred to make more audio games for himself, haha! Having him here with me is going to really help in just about every way. It is always good to have someone around to lend a helping hand and to keep you motivated when projects drag on and on for long hours. :D LOL! - Aprone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
Lori, not intending this note personally at all, :) but as a commentary on the view people have about Audio Game Companies. Firstly, as has been said before, many of these companies are individuals or groups of 2, 3 or sometimes only a few more people who are doing this more out of a labor of love than desire for money. Again, as has been said, there's really, essentially no money in making audio games for this community. It just isn't a sustainable business model unless devs offer other services as well, and even then, not by much. The fact that Liam's time is taken up with a real job should give people a clue that he's not getting rich off of any of us. Yes? ;) so to create the impression that these game companies don't care about poor blind people is maybe not the best way to go about this. :) Know what I mean? If people are feeling unimportant, then it's our responsibility as a community to bring ourselves to a place where we can contribute more to our own developers so that we become more important. You pay for time, so if you want more time, contribute more of what you can. That could be cash, it could be your own time. The point is; give something to get something. Make sense? :) Then you'll be seen as important to others… Anyway, as I said, nothing personal is meant by this at all. I understand how this may seem like devs don't care but it's usually that they can't keep up because of real-life commitments which actually do pay them so they can support themselves and perhaps their own as well. Hope this makes sense and thanks for your note! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:11 PM, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd love to contact their complaints, but I can't call the number as i'm in the uk. It's very frustrating when this happens, companies seemto forget it's your money they have. -Original Message- From: Michael Taboada Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:43 PM To: scull...@optonline.net ; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games Hi, Unfortunately I've seen that a lot lately. People either not getting replacement keys when they reinstalled their computer or some such, or not getting keys at all. I personally waited many months to try and get keys for super liam and judgement day. If you wanted to file a complaint you can probably do that by calling them, at least that's what I've done in the past. Go to their help centre then to contact I believe and it will give you an 800 number. Hth, -Michael. -Original Message- From: Steve Cullen Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:38 PM To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games Hi Everyone, I'm sorry if I don't post to the list very often. I have bought three games from Liam and never received any licensing information I even tried to go to paypal to register a complaint. To register a complaint with Paypal You have to fill out like thirty five forms which aren't Blind friendly I gave that idea up pretty quickly. The Point is that Liam is not fulfilling the needs of his customers. And there should be something done about this from the aspect of the blind gamers community. Thank you all very much. Sincerely, Steve Cullen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] See Munkeys are back in the store, plus updates on game progress
I'm sincerely glad you've got a buddy up to help you and make the time a more enjoyable one. I'm sure I'd be a damn site more productive if my friends were present with me for the process. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 6/22/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well its good to keep updated was wandering where you were hiding. Yes its good to have extra staff to help with your projects, um should I say minions you being the swamp zombie master and all that. Yeah minions. I wander if you could release a vid or audio or something about the construction of the c monkey, and how its done from parts and whats in it to assembly I am sure some friends would like to see that. At 07:35 AM 6/23/2013, you wrote: Hey guys, sorry for the long delay since the last time I've updated this post. The past few weeks have been very busy, but also quite productive. My buddy Hatred moved up from Texas and we've spent the past few weeks getting him familiar with all of the projects I'm in the middle of. He has been helping me build See Munkeys for the past few days, so once the next big order comes in, I'll be able to have them built and ready to sell at a much faster rate. We also worked on new construction methods and ordered some new tools that cut down on the time and effort needed to put them together. People have been asking when new devices will be in the store, so I'm reporting in to say that the last 7 are listed before I'll have to order new parts. Another reason for the delay was that one of my parts suppliers sent me some bad parts and it threw off my normal routine. As for the RPG, Hatred and I have been going over parts of the game engine that I haven't been happy with. We are improving them by quite a bit actually, so I'm very happy about that. We will also be doing our best to get the duck hunt game out as soon as we can. The engine changes we're making also affect the code for duck hunt, so that's another reason that small game isn't further along, but in the end the changes will be well worth it. They greatly improve sound quality. I hope to do a better job of keeping people updated on my progress. I'll also bug Hatred to make more audio games for himself, haha! Having him here with me is going to really help in just about every way. It is always good to have someone around to lend a helping hand and to keep you motivated when projects drag on and on for long hours. :D LOL! - Aprone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
Cara, Thanks for that well worded message. I had basically the same idea earlier when I read Lori's message, but really couldn't think of a diplomatic way to say it like you have. I know from personal experience a lot of blind gamers believe or expect that we developers are there to serve their every whim, jump when they shout jump, and when we have other real life commitments like work, a family, or are simply dealing with an illness they think we don't care about them or their money. As you said none of us are getting rich creating games, do it as a labor of love, but have real life commitments that must come first. Its very disheartening when someone on this list or elsewhere starts beating the drums and basically treat developer x as though he or she is ripping them off or that they have no other commitments to deal with. Usually the lack of attention is due in large part to some other commitment like work or a family, and I for one wish the community could be more understanding about that. On 6/22/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Lori, not intending this note personally at all, :) but as a commentary on the view people have about Audio Game Companies. Firstly, as has been said before, many of these companies are individuals or groups of 2, 3 or sometimes only a few more people who are doing this more out of a labor of love than desire for money. Again, as has been said, there's really, essentially no money in making audio games for this community. It just isn't a sustainable business model unless devs offer other services as well, and even then, not by much. The fact that Liam's time is taken up with a real job should give people a clue that he's not getting rich off of any of us. Yes? ;) so to create the impression that these game companies don't care about poor blind people is maybe not the best way to go about this. :) Know what I mean? If people are feeling unimportant, then it's our responsibility as a community to bring ourselves to a place where we can contribute more to our own developers so that we become more important. You pay for time, so if you want more time, contribute more of what you can. That could be cash, it could be your own time. The point is; give something to get something. Make sense? :) Then you'll be seen as important to others… Anyway, as I said, nothing personal is meant by this at all. I understand how this may seem like devs don't care but it's usually that they can't keep up because of real-life commitments which actually do pay them so they can support themselves and perhaps their own as well. Hope this makes sense and thanks for your note! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
hi Thomas, While I agree with you in principle, I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that it seems many people don't get replacement keys for games that are computer based, or even keys for new purchases for months or more which was my experience. In fact I kept bugging him on twitter and he kept telling me that he was going to send the key... and it took quite a while for that to happen. Basically what I'm saying is that while it's good to be mindful of the dev's other commitments, it's also good for the devs themselves to be mindful that people are paying real money for these games. Hth, -Michael. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
I would not mind quitting development at times. As said earlier, it is a labor of love and does not pay the bills. I work full time. If people are that dissatisfied, then maybe it's time to close up shop. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com wrote: hi Thomas, While I agree with you in principle, I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that it seems many people don't get replacement keys for games that are computer based, or even keys for new purchases for months or more which was my experience. In fact I kept bugging him on twitter and he kept telling me that he was going to send the key... and it took quite a while for that to happen. Basically what I'm saying is that while it's good to be mindful of the dev's other commitments, it's also good for the devs themselves to be mindful that people are paying real money for these games. Hth, -Michael. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
Hello, Liam. I am very happy with your games! I hope that you do not quit making games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
Hopefully, you'll reconsider. A lot of us realize that you've gotta pay the light bill, among others. Game production isn't steady income. Your other job is, and full time is exactly that. Some people don't realize just what it means. Then, you also have a family life. That doesn't leave much time for doing what you like doing in the way of recreation, and then these rotten apples expect you to get them what they want, when they want it, regardless of your prior commitments. If you don't pay the bills, they most certainly will not get games or registration keys, because batteries don't last forever. I, for one, have found your customer service and your games to be very satisfactory, and if I don't immediately get a key, I know why, but I also know that I will get it. Sometimes, Emails get backed up, too, so you might not find the request for a while. Your mind may also be on other things. You're only human.. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games I would not mind quitting development at times. As said earlier, it is a labor of love and does not pay the bills. I work full time. If people are that dissatisfied, then maybe it's time to close up shop. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com wrote: hi Thomas, While I agree with you in principle, I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that it seems many people don't get replacement keys for games that are computer based, or even keys for new purchases for months or more which was my experience. In fact I kept bugging him on twitter and he kept telling me that he was going to send the key... and it took quite a while for that to happen. Basically what I'm saying is that while it's good to be mindful of the dev's other commitments, it's also good for the devs themselves to be mindful that people are paying real money for these games. Hth, -Michael. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
if you did that you'd be missed my me who loves what you do:)\ - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games I would not mind quitting development at times. As said earlier, it is a labor of love and does not pay the bills. I work full time. If people are that dissatisfied, then maybe it's time to close up shop. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com wrote: hi Thomas, While I agree with you in principle, I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that it seems many people don't get replacement keys for games that are computer based, or even keys for new purchases for months or more which was my experience. In fact I kept bugging him on twitter and he kept telling me that he was going to send the key... and it took quite a while for that to happen. Basically what I'm saying is that while it's good to be mindful of the dev's other commitments, it's also good for the devs themselves to be mindful that people are paying real money for these games. Hth, -Michael. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
Well said. This nonsense has made me seriously consider not developing at all. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:44 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games Hopefully, you'll reconsider. A lot of us realize that you've gotta pay the light bill, among others. Game production isn't steady income. Your other job is, and full time is exactly that. Some people don't realize just what it means. Then, you also have a family life. That doesn't leave much time for doing what you like doing in the way of recreation, and then these rotten apples expect you to get them what they want, when they want it, regardless of your prior commitments. If you don't pay the bills, they most certainly will not get games or registration keys, because batteries don't last forever. I, for one, have found your customer service and your games to be very satisfactory, and if I don't immediately get a key, I know why, but I also know that I will get it. Sometimes, Emails get backed up, too, so you might not find the request for a while. Your mind may also be on other things. You're only human.. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games I would not mind quitting development at times. As said earlier, it is a labor of love and does not pay the bills. I work full time. If people are that dissatisfied, then maybe it's time to close up shop. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com wrote: hi Thomas, While I agree with you in principle, I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that it seems many people don't get replacement keys for games that are computer based, or even keys for new purchases for months or more which was my experience. In fact I kept bugging him on twitter and he kept telling me that he was going to send the key... and it took quite a while for that to happen. Basically what I'm saying is that while it's good to be mindful of the dev's other commitments, it's also good for the devs themselves to be mindful that people are paying real money for these games. Hth, -Michael. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
I understand where Liam is coming from, but what about those people who have mentioned on list that they have waited and waited for keys to games that they have ordered? And how many have said they have tried to contact him with no response? I can see their side on this too. When anyone purchases something, they expect to get what they paid for. All of us feel that way I'm sure. -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:30 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games Hello, Liam. I am very happy with your games! I hope that you do not quit making games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
Liam the main issue is that with all your email problems, none of us knows what email address is working or if you even recieve mail. lets see you have your liam address at liamerven.com, gmail.com, l-works, then the sales and support addresses for l-works. We don't know if our messages are even recieved man. And yet again I will stress this on list. I am willing to help with requests for replacement keys to take the heat off you. You are a great guy and all but if for whatever reason your tech is just giving you issues and you can't solve them even with your gmail, then maybe its time to get some assistance. I am happy to do this without pay of any kind, well I guess maybe a coppy of all your games but even then its not like I don't have superliam and judgement day. And even if that were not the case I want to help. I have seen you on the random streams, spoke to you on msn, even shared bits with you in early 2002 and so on. I was round listening to you in 2001. I know you are busy thats why I am a lot of us are giving you the slack we are and not getting up on you like a bunch of cards. I can understand not getting a key for ages and ages because you are busy, but the email issue well I have no idea what gets through or what. And its not like I ask much in return either. Just to have picks on testing new titles for windows and maybe a coppy of games for myself if you wanted to really pay me. Seriously I don't need any cash or anything. At 01:23 PM 6/23/2013, you wrote: I would not mind quitting development at times. As said earlier, it is a labor of love and does not pay the bills. I work full time. If people are that dissatisfied, then maybe it's time to close up shop. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com wrote: hi Thomas, While I agree with you in principle, I think there's a lot to be said for the fact that it seems many people don't get replacement keys for games that are computer based, or even keys for new purchases for months or more which was my experience. In fact I kept bugging him on twitter and he kept telling me that he was going to send the key... and it took quite a while for that to happen. Basically what I'm saying is that while it's good to be mindful of the dev's other commitments, it's also good for the devs themselves to be mindful that people are paying real money for these games. Hth, -Michael. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
