Re: [Audyssey] converting games
The other way is to make games like the mainstream ones but with enough dissimilarities that it won't infringe on the copyrights, such as not using any of the sounds from the original game or the names of things. For example, my Space Attack game is a lot like Space Invaders, but I believe that there are enough differences that it won't break the laws. Of course that's a simplistic game and doesn't have the character development, plots, and unique weapons that say a star wars game would have. Do you live near Sandusky Ohio, or are you planning a trip to Cedar Point? Receive a massage at very competitive rates--$40 per hour for a revitalizing therapeutic massage, $65 per house call--any time, anywhere (within reason.) Call 419-577-7973 I'll ease your pain and discomfort, loosen and mobilize your stiff joints, relax your achy muscles, and help you let go of stress, depression, and nervous anxiety... Ken Downey, LMT President of Blind Comfort! The Caring Without the Staring and DreamtechInteractive - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] converting games Michael, Weather an accessible developer decides to sell the game or not it is still illegal. It is called copyright infringement regardless if the developer sells it, makes it open source, whatever. That makes it a potential risk for any developer who tries it. None of us are completely happy about the copyright laws and feel they need to be more liberal when it comes to accessibility issues, but the only way we can change that is talk to the people who make the laws, or complain directly to the companies who lack accessibility features such as talking menus. I've already explained the position of most audio game developers, and ppointed out exactly why they aren't creating accessible versions of Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, or whatever. Bottom line, what you want and what you can get are two different things in this case. As they always say, you can't always get what you want. Smile. michael barnes wrote: with mortal kombat it would be easy to do and to make it legal do not charge for the game the first mortal kombat is a basic fighting game so it would be easy to do all you need to do is use the voice that is in the computer to read the main menu and the option menu and the character select screen and last thing who you are about to fight like you all said it would be hard to convert the fighting part of the game but you do not have to convert that part of the game. i do know the first mortal kombat game was easy for a blind person to play because it did have sound for things such as jumping and punching and kicking the only thing that i want is the menus to be descrive so i can play the game and be able to play it on my computer --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] converting games
with mortal kombat it would be easy to do and to make it legal do not charge for the game the first mortal kombat is a basic fighting game so it would be easy to do all you need to do is use the voice that is in the computer to read the main menu and the option menu and the character select screen and last thing who you are about to fight like you all said it would be hard to convert the fighting part of the game but you do not have to convert that part of the game. i do know the first mortal kombat game was easy for a blind person to play because it did have sound for things such as jumping and punching and kicking the only thing that i want is the menus to be descrive so i can play the game and be able to play it on my computer -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
It doesn't matter if you're not going to sell it. It's still copyright infringement if you modify it. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] converting games with mortal kombat it would be easy to do and to make it legal do not charge for the game the first mortal kombat is a basic fighting game so it would be easy to do all you need to do is use the voice that is in the computer to read the main menu and the option menu and the character select screen and last thing who you are about to fight like you all said it would be hard to convert the fighting part of the game but you do not have to convert that part of the game. i do know the first mortal kombat game was easy for a blind person to play because it did have sound for things such as jumping and punching and kicking the only thing that i want is the menus to be descrive so i can play the game and be able to play it on my computer -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4403 (20090907) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4403 (20090907) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
Michael, Weather an accessible developer decides to sell the game or not it is still illegal. It is called copyright infringement regardless if the developer sells it, makes it open source, whatever. That makes it a potential risk for any developer who tries it. None of us are completely happy about the copyright laws and feel they need to be more liberal when it comes to accessibility issues, but the only way we can change that is talk to the people who make the laws, or complain directly to the companies who lack accessibility features such as talking menus. I've already explained the position of most audio game developers, and ppointed out exactly why they aren't creating accessible versions of Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, or whatever. Bottom line, what you want and what you can get are two different things in this case. As they always say, you can't always get what you want. Smile. michael barnes wrote: with mortal kombat it would be easy to do and to make it legal do not charge for the game the first mortal kombat is a basic fighting game so it would be easy to do all you need to do is use the voice that is in the computer to read the main menu and the option menu and the character select screen and last thing who you are about to fight like you all said it would be hard to convert the fighting part of the game but you do not have to convert that part of the game. i do know the first mortal kombat game was easy for a blind person to play because it did have sound for things such as jumping and punching and kicking the only thing that i want is the menus to be descrive so i can play the game and be able to play it on my computer --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
It's still illegal even if you don't charge for it. If you don't get sued you'd probably get handed a cease and desist letter. Face it Michael, if you want to play the game you're just going to have to tough it out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] converting games with mortal kombat it would be easy to do and to make it legal do not charge for the game the first mortal kombat is a basic fighting game so it would be easy to do all you need to do is use the voice that is in the computer to read the main menu and the option menu and the character select screen and last thing who you are about to fight like you all said it would be hard to convert the fighting part of the game but you do not have to convert that part of the game. i do know the first mortal kombat game was easy for a blind person to play because it did have sound for things such as jumping and punching and kicking the only thing that i want is the menus to be descrive so i can play the game and be able to play it on my computer -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
Hi, Either that or he needs to learn to program so he can create is own accessible version. I know this sounds harsh, but there comes a time when we all need to face reality and know our limits. I for one am not willing to put a year or two of my time on the line to create a game I may or may not get sued over. 'Especially, considering the fact I've never been a huge Mortal Kombat fan to begin with. The games are alright, but I'm not going to invest time, energy, and put myself at legal risk over it. Currently I only have one such game on my web site, Star Trek Final Conflict, and so far I've never been bothered by Paramount over it. However, just before I could complete Montezuma's Revenge I had lawyers sending me orders to stop production immediately or face getting sued. So that can happen if a developer doesn't cover his butt good. Bryan Peterson wrote: It's still illegal even if you don't charge for it. If you don't get sued you'd probably get handed a cease and desist letter. Face it Michael, if you want to play the game you're just going to have to tough it out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
Thanks Brian... I was going to say that. If a fighting game is what you want to play, then you're going to have to ask for help with the menus... this list is a good place to ask, since most people can usually find out. But Brian's right. Face it.. fighting games weren't made with the blind community in mind. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
Never was much of an MK fan either, I prefered tekken and soul calibur though given the fact that I wsn't very good at either one or the other. Then there was Street Fighter... love that game. Lots of fighting games are around, some more well-known than others, but... those four are probably the top ones. Blazblue, Guilty Gear, King of fighters and samurai shodown probably fall under the category of not-so-well-known. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] converting games Hi, Either that or he needs to learn to program so he can create is own accessible version. I know this sounds harsh, but there comes a time when we all need to face reality and know our limits. I for one am not willing to put a year or two of my time on the line to create a game I may or may not get sued over. 'Especially, considering the fact I've never been a huge Mortal Kombat fan to begin with. The games are alright, but I'm not going to invest time, energy, and put myself at legal risk over it. Currently I only have one such game on my web site, Star Trek Final Conflict, and so far I've never been bothered by Paramount over it. However, just before I could complete Montezuma's Revenge I had lawyers sending me orders to stop production immediately or face getting sued. So that can happen if a developer doesn't cover his butt good. Bryan Peterson wrote: It's still illegal even if you don't charge for it. If you don't get sued you'd probably get handed a cease and desist letter. Face it Michael, if you want to play the game you're just going to have to tough it out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
well if this guy does do his own stuff and it is as good as he thinks then I'll bite. At 10:29 a.m. 8/09/2009, you wrote: Hi, Either that or he needs to learn to program so he can create is own accessible version. I know this sounds harsh, but there comes a time when we all need to face reality and know our limits. I for one am not willing to put a year or two of my time on the line to create a game I may or may not get sued over. 'Especially, considering the fact I've never been a huge Mortal Kombat fan to begin with. The games are alright, but I'm not going to invest time, energy, and put myself at legal risk over it. Currently I only have one such game on my web site, Star Trek Final Conflict, and so far I've never been bothered by Paramount over it. However, just before I could complete Montezuma's Revenge I had lawyers sending me orders to stop production immediately or face getting sued. So that can happen if a developer doesn't cover his butt good. Bryan Peterson wrote: It's still illegal even if you don't charge for it. If you don't get sued you'd probably get handed a cease and desist letter. Face it Michael, if you want to play the game you're just going to have to tough it out. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] converting games
Games in general weren't made with the blind in mind, not just fighting games. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] converting games Thanks Brian... I was going to say that. If a fighting game is what you want to play, then you're going to have to ask for help with the menus... this list is a good place to ask, since most people can usually find out. But Brian's right. Face it.. fighting games weren't made with the blind community in mind. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Lol... sorry, I figured since the topic had mainly involved fighting games I'd point that out specifially. Good point though. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] converting games Games in general weren't made with the blind in mind, not just fighting games. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] converting games Thanks Brian... I was going to say that. If a fighting game is what you want to play, then you're going to have to ask for help with the menus... this list is a good place to ask, since most people can usually find out. But Brian's right. Face it.. fighting games weren't made with the blind community in mind. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
