Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
Hmm thats the time I got the net to. I got procom, but I didn't get my first pc modem til 1997, it was a pc card one the next one was either usb or serial, though I really didn't muck on dos with the net. At 12:22 a.m. 23/10/2014, you wrote: I got the net when I was 13. in 1995 late 1995 or so. I logged in using a shell account on a remote unix server using links and pine for web and email. I used the program procom plus for dos. On 10/21/2014 6:57 PM, shaun everiss wrote: one thing ishen is I am not sure what games would be good for children, when I started I was into the net and in my late teens so I didn't care much about what I played. if the plot was good then I played it but if I didn't like it it got dumped. At 01:49 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Curry-Muncher, Yes. If you want to play an interactive fiction game you have to download some from the interactive fiction archive or somewhere else. Filfre, Winfrotz, and other interpreters don't come with any of the games themselves. Just are the programs to run/play them. Cheers! On 10/21/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know. its one of my laments on computer stuff. In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly. An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. You ran all your boxes into the ground. People sadly do not think like that anymore. At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of generalizations about the younger players verses the older players which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to say all young people are like that. I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some of those older games can be. As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type of game. On 10/20/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
one thing ishen is I am not sure what games would be good for children, when I started I was into the net and in my late teens so I didn't care much about what I played. if the plot was good then I played it but if I didn't like it it got dumped. At 01:49 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Curry-Muncher, Yes. If you want to play an interactive fiction game you have to download some from the interactive fiction archive or somewhere else. Filfre, Winfrotz, and other interpreters don't come with any of the games themselves. Just are the programs to run/play them. Cheers! On 10/21/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
Hi Shaun, Seriously, it isn't rocket science. I can think of a number of interactive fiction games that would be fine for children. Take the Infocom games just as an example. They are clean, designed for people of all ages, and are some great text adventures to play. At least most of them are. Just as an example I could see sharing games like Arthur, Zork, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, etc with a child. However, it wouldn't be a good idea to share Leather Goddesses of Phobos with a kid since that is definitely more for adults. A little common sense here on what is and is not age appropriate goes a long way. On 10/21/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: one thing ishen is I am not sure what games would be good for children, when I started I was into the net and in my late teens so I didn't care much about what I played. if the plot was good then I played it but if I didn't like it it got dumped. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
even recovery and reformat disks have graphical interfaces. even the most popular linux first boots into a graphical interface unless you get vinux CLI or grml console only linux. On 10/21/2014 6:55 PM, shaun everiss wrote: you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know. its one of my laments on computer stuff. In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly. An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. You ran all your boxes into the ground. People sadly do not think like that anymore. At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of generalizations about the younger players verses the older players which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to say all young people are like that. I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some of those older games can be. As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type of game. On 10/20/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
I got the net when I was 13. in 1995 late 1995 or so. I logged in using a shell account on a remote unix server using links and pine for web and email. I used the program procom plus for dos. On 10/21/2014 6:57 PM, shaun everiss wrote: one thing ishen is I am not sure what games would be good for children, when I started I was into the net and in my late teens so I didn't care much about what I played. if the plot was good then I played it but if I didn't like it it got dumped. At 01:49 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Curry-Muncher, Yes. If you want to play an interactive fiction game you have to download some from the interactive fiction archive or somewhere else. Filfre, Winfrotz, and other interpreters don't come with any of the games themselves. Just are the programs to run/play them. Cheers! On 10/21/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
They may have that but the one thing they don't have that a screen reader needs is sound support to make them useable. At 07:20 AM 10/22/2014, you wrote: even recovery and reformat disks have graphical interfaces. even the most popular linux first boots into a graphical interface unless you get vinux CLI or grml console only linux. On 10/21/2014 6:55 PM, shaun everiss wrote: you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know. its one of my laments on computer stuff. In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly. An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. You ran all your boxes into the ground. People sadly do not think like that anymore. At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of generalizations about the younger players verses the older players which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to say all young people are like that. I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some of those older games can be. As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type of game. On 10/20/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
They may have what? I'm a little confused as to what exactly you're talking about here. -- From: tim z200...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started. They may have that but the one thing they don't have that a screen reader needs is sound support to make them useable. At 07:20 AM 10/22/2014, you wrote: even recovery and reformat disks have graphical interfaces. even the most popular linux first boots into a graphical interface unless you get vinux CLI or grml console only linux. On 10/21/2014 6:55 PM, shaun everiss wrote: you are so right tom, sadly these days most get the graphical world and thats all they know. its one of my laments on computer stuff. In the day my day if something went wrong you actually tried to replace it or fix it. now, if something goes wrong a recovery disk, a reformat will fix it but your average yung person wouldn't know what dos was anymore. and if something breaks or even if it doesn't they are ready to replace it to quickly. An example, my cousin brought a brand new phone last year. It was barely a few months old, it still worked fine but he sold it because it was not the latest and got another one, at full price. When I have a computer and not to many years ago, you only replaced it if the gbattery exploded, the drivves failed or the case melted. You ran all your boxes into the ground. People sadly do not think like that anymore. At 01:28 a.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of generalizations about the younger players verses the older players which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to say all young people are like that. I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some of those older games can be. As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type of game. On 10/20/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you
Re: [Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
this shows you how much if I have played of late, I havn't touched it in about 10 years and at least 5 of them I have not opened a single program. Most of what I play now are audio/ text/ console or web based if at all. At 08:18 p.m. 22/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Seriously, it isn't rocket science. I can think of a number of interactive fiction games that would be fine for children. Take the Infocom games just as an example. They are clean, designed for people of all ages, and are some great text adventures to play. At least most of them are. Just as an example I could see sharing games like Arthur, Zork, Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, etc with a child. However, it wouldn't be a good idea to share Leather Goddesses of Phobos with a kid since that is definitely more for adults. A little common sense here on what is and is not age appropriate goes a long way. On 10/21/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: one thing ishen is I am not sure what games would be good for children, when I started I was into the net and in my late teens so I didn't care much about what I played. if the plot was good then I played it but if I didn't like it it got dumped. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. At 05:37 a.m. 21/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Recently I posted about interactive fiction. so One thing I want to ask in this context. can a sited person will feel easy in this genre? if I have an interpreter for IF then How can I play the game after installing the interpreter. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something On 10/20/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. At 05:37 a.m. 21/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Recently I posted about interactive fiction. so One thing I want to ask in this context. can a sited person will feel easy in this genre? if I have an interpreter for IF then How can I play the game after installing the interpreter. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, Well, as you said it all depends on the person. You make a lot of generalizations about the younger players verses the older players which may be true in their specific cases, but I wouldn't go as far to say all young people are like that. I think a lot of it comes down to exposure. If someone a bit older than them were to show them a few cool text adventures someone younger may learn to enjoy it as much as they like their graphical console games. It is just a matter of giving them a chance to play the games and introducing them to the genre without prejudice. Many older PC gamers will certainly remember games like Elite. It was by far one of the best science fiction games of the 1980's and a lot of people liked it. Games like that have given older gamers appreciation for games without killer 3d graphics, state-of-the-art sounds, etc because they know what is possible with text and minimal graphics. Someone who has only grew up playing games with virtual 3d graphics probably assumes all text games suck without even having had tried one, or realized how addicting a game like Elite can be regardless of the lack of killer graphics and sounds. It is up to older gamers to pass on the knowledge and experience of how cool some of those older games can be. As far as card and board games I think the people you know are to black and white on that issue. There is no rule saying that it is either video games or board games. My son, for example, is 10 and he loves both. He likes games for Play Station and XBox, but if I ask him too he will sit down and play a board game with me. One is just as good as the other for him. So I think opinions like that are up to the individual and how much positive reinforcement they had with that type of game. On 10/20/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it will depend on the person, half my friends are happy with text, and even audio games others are not. Ofcause some of my friends grew up on older systems like the acorn, if you grow up with it then you may take it more easily, for my unger generation of friends, if its not got graphics, needs 2gb of ram to run, and an i7 then its crap! And if its for the blind its crap! and text is crap! I think that if you were entering it from a graphical prospective not knowing about it and not having the experiences then its quite hard for some, not all but some. For those quite a lot are not willing to leave graphics and shoot this mash this button and the like, others are happy to do so. At least for me and some of the family the devide between those who care or not is quite wide, older generations 1980 and earlier have experienced a world without the graphics we enjoy now and are ready. for those in the late 90s or 200s its hard and getting harder. I used to play board games with my cousin, but its all now consoles, and flashy graphical systems, text, even audio games wouldn't cross their minds and if they tried most would get lost. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello Curry-Muncher, Yes. If you want to play an interactive fiction game you have to download some from the interactive fiction archive or somewhere else. Filfre, Winfrotz, and other interpreters don't come with any of the games themselves. Just are the programs to run/play them. Cheers! On 10/21/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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what? kurry-muncher? well it sounds funny to me. On 10/21/2014 8:49 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello Curry-Muncher, Yes. If you want to play an interactive fiction game you have to download some from the interactive fiction archive or somewhere else. Filfre, Winfrotz, and other interpreters don't come with any of the games themselves. Just are the programs to run/play them. Cheers! On 10/21/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! you know my brother is 8 and he want to play some games and I want to play interactive fictions with him. so I ask about the sited people. I have filfre in my desktop so if I want to play I have to download the game. Yes or not. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Josh, That was sort of the idea. Something comical, not too serious, and that wouldn't necessarily be offensive. On 10/21/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: what? kurry-muncher? well it sounds funny to me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] previous topic of interactive fictions which I started.
Hi Recently I posted about interactive fiction. so One thing I want to ask in this context. can a sited person will feel easy in this genre? if I have an interpreter for IF then How can I play the game after installing the interpreter. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ishen. Lots of sighted people play and right interactive fiction, so there is no problem there. As to how to play a game in an interpreter, it's just like opening any file in a program, like when you open a text document in word or free office or whatever, or when you open an mp3 in winamp, windows media player, foobar etc. On windows you either navigate to the file in windows explorer and hit enter, or just hit ctrl O and find the file once you started the program, that is all, no problem. hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ishan, Your question about the sighted person is slightly confusing. Not sure what you mean by a sighted person feeling easy with the genre. As far as playing interactive fiction games it is very easy. Let's assume here for example you are playing one of the games written in Inform. Say Night of the Midnight Sun. You would begin by installing an interpreter like Winfrotz. You would then start Winfrotz, go to open, and find the z5 file containing the game. It will then open and begin displaying text on the screen with a prompt for you to type commands like north, south, east, west, look, examine, etc into the interpreter. You can read the text in the game in a number of ways. You can use the review cursor of your screen reader to read the text on the screen line by line or in the case of Winfrotz you can enable Sapi support. With Sapi support enabled it will read the text on the screen automatically. Personally if I'm in Windows I prefer having Sapi read the text prompts etc, but that is personal preference. HTH On 10/20/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Recently I posted about interactive fiction. so One thing I want to ask in this context. can a sited person will feel easy in this genre? if I have an interpreter for IF then How can I play the game after installing the interpreter. Thanks Ishan everyone cannot do everything but can do something Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
