Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-25 Thread dark

some are patrol, ie, you fly around several points.

some are transport, ie, you buy some goods and take them somewhere. Later on 
you get lots of sorts of missions as well.


One idea that's been floated around the nielsbauer forums is the idea of 
other trading style missions where someone asks you to fetch a specific 
object for them, - but these haven't been implemented yet.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen


Are all missions combat missions? Hmm I guess so if you're in war  but... 
figured there'd be others.

On Dec 24, 2008, at 4:53 PM, dark wrote:


Hi Zac.

see my reply to Liam for some ideas.

Again though, remember I love using the sensors and going on  missions. 
I'm sure someone with more patience for, and interest in 
 trading,  -especially when the trade screen get's it's final  access 
tweak, could have a different method of doing things.


that's one thing imho which is so great about S4, you can play the  game 
differently depending upon your personality.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline kli...@onid.orst.edu

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



Hi,
  I too am wondering about the best way to get 200K+ credits to get 
myself a new ship.  Is there anybody with more experience in S4 who 
could make any suggestions here?  Dark?

Thanks much,
Zack.

- Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is  a 
corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up 
ships for

a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the  combat is
extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org ] 
On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game 
unfortunately,

it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the  goods 
and

prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold,  and 
the buy,

sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the  selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various 
planets, you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the  travel 
screen
(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll 
travel

there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that  commodity 
are
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel  screen, 
but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see 
them.


I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the  trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods  prices 
on each

planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more  interested 
in the
bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so  haven't 
really

looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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[Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread Liam Erven
ok. so how does this exactly work.
if I click on trade, I have a list of commidities, then I have an x1, x 10,
x25, x50, and x 100.
after that I have buy all sell all buy and sell.
is this screen useable, or am I jus tmissing something entirely.
I haven't figgured out how to trade at all.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread dark

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game unfortunately, 
it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.


When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the goods and 
prices on whichever planet your currently on.


X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold, and the buy, 
sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.


The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the selected 
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various planets, you 
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the travel screen 
(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll travel 
there), then open the trade screen again.


this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that commodity are 
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel screen, but 
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see them.


I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the trade 
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods prices on each 
planet, but this idea's stil in the works.


I must admit though, I've always personally been much more interested in the 
bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so haven't really 
looked that deeply into trading.


Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread Liam Erven
The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is a corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up ships for
a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the combat is
extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game unfortunately,
it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the goods and
prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold, and the buy,
sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various planets, you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the travel screen
(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll travel
there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that commodity are
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel screen, but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see them.

I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods prices on each
planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more interested in the
bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so haven't really
looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark. 


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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread Zachary Kline

Hi,
   I too am wondering about the best way to get 200K+ credits to get myself 
a new ship.  Is there anybody with more experience in S4 who could make any 
suggestions here?  Dark?

Thanks much,
Zack.

- Original Message - 
From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is a 
corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up ships 
for

a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the combat is
extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game 
unfortunately,

it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the goods and
prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold, and the 
buy,

sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various planets, 
you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the travel 
screen

(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll travel
there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that commodity are
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel screen, but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see them.

I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods prices on 
each

planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more interested in 
the

bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so haven't really
looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread dark

Again Liam, this might just be a pure perception thing.

I've found that doing missions and making extensive use of the sensor 
screen, particularly with the advanced tracking and bounty hunter abilities, 
you can't half make money fast.


taking out any of the corvet piloting enemies you can earn 16 K a pop, and 
for any of the serious pirates you can get 32 K.


I will also say, the tougher the enemy and the more stratogy your using to 
defeat them, the more interesting I tend to find combat gets.



Again though, different people like different things, and these are just my 
thoughts.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is a 
corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up ships 
for

a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the combat is
extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game 
unfortunately,

it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the goods and
prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold, and the 
buy,

sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various planets, 
you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the travel 
screen

(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll travel
there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that commodity are
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel screen, but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see them.

I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods prices on 
each

planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more interested in 
the

bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so haven't really
looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread dark

Hi Zac.

see my reply to Liam for some ideas.

Again though, remember I love using the sensors and going on missions. I'm 
sure someone with more patience for, and interest in 
trading,  -especially when the trade screen get's it's final access 
tweak, could have a different method of doing things.


that's one thing imho which is so great about S4, you can play the game 
differently depending upon your personality.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Zachary Kline kli...@onid.orst.edu

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



Hi,
   I too am wondering about the best way to get 200K+ credits to get 
myself a new ship.  Is there anybody with more experience in S4 who could 
make any suggestions here?  Dark?

Thanks much,
Zack.

- Original Message - 
From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is a 
corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up ships 
for

a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the combat is
extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game 
unfortunately,

it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the goods and
prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold, and the 
buy,

sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various planets, 
you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the travel 
screen

(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll travel
there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that commodity 
are

displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel screen, but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see them.

I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods prices on 
each

planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more interested in 
the
bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so haven't 
really

looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread Orin
Are all missions combat missions? Hmm I guess so if you're in war  
but... figured there'd be others.

On Dec 24, 2008, at 4:53 PM, dark wrote:


Hi Zac.

see my reply to Liam for some ideas.

Again though, remember I love using the sensors and going on  
missions. I'm sure someone with more patience for, and interest in  
trading,  -especially when the trade screen get's it's final  
access tweak, could have a different method of doing things.


that's one thing imho which is so great about S4, you can play the  
game differently depending upon your personality.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline kli...@onid.orst.edu 


To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



Hi,
  I too am wondering about the best way to get 200K+ credits to get  
myself a new ship.  Is there anybody with more experience in S4 who  
could make any suggestions here?  Dark?

Thanks much,
Zack.

- Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is  
a corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up  
ships for
a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the  
combat is

extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org 
] On

Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game  
unfortunately,

it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the  
goods and

prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold,  
and the buy,

sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the  
selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various  
planets, you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the  
travel screen
(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll  
travel

there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that  
commodity are
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel  
screen, but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see  
them.


I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the  
trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods  
prices on each

planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more  
interested in the
bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so  
haven't really

looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

2008-12-24 Thread Zachary Kline

Hi,
   No, not all the missions are combat missions.  You can get trade-based 
and other sorts of things as well.

Best,
Zack.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen


Are all missions combat missions? Hmm I guess so if you're in war  but... 
figured there'd be others.

On Dec 24, 2008, at 4:53 PM, dark wrote:


Hi Zac.

see my reply to Liam for some ideas.

Again though, remember I love using the sensors and going on  missions. 
I'm sure someone with more patience for, and interest in 
 trading,  -especially when the trade screen get's it's final  access 
tweak, could have a different method of doing things.


that's one thing imho which is so great about S4, you can play the  game 
differently depending upon your personality.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



Hi,
  I too am wondering about the best way to get 200K+ credits to get 
myself a new ship.  Is there anybody with more experience in S4 who 
could make any suggestions here?  Dark?

Thanks much,
Zack.

- Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen



The other thing I have a rought time with is buying a new ship. I'm
federation, an dI'm going to assume that the   next ship, which is  a 
corvet
is upwards of about 200 k credits.  Seems like I'll be shooting up 
ships for

a long while before I can upgrade.  I like the game, but the  combat is
extremely tedious, and I have a horibly short attention span.


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Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] smugglers trading screen

Hi Liam.

Trading at the moment is the most lengthy process in the game 
unfortunately,

it's possible, but to trade accurately takes time.

When you click on trade, you get the trade screen showing the  goods 
and

prices on whichever planet your currently on.

X1 x10 etc refer to the units of the good to be bought or sold,  and 
the buy,

sell, buy all or sell all will do the selected actions.

The only problem is, that screen only shows the goods for the  selected
planet. In order to see the prices for the goods on the various 
planets, you
need to close the screen, click once on another planet in the  travel 
screen
(to highlight that planet, but not a double click otherwise you'll 
travel

there), then open the trade screen again.

this unfortunately makes planning trades a very slow process.

Visually, once you click on a commodity, the prices for that  commodity 
are
displayed next to the names of all the planets on the travel  screen, 
but
sinse a screen reader is focused on the trade screen you can't see 
them.


I've suggested to Niels that he create a minimize button for the  trade
screen so as to close the screen, but keep the selected goods  prices 
on each

planet, but this idea's stil in the works.

I must admit though, I've always personally been much more  interested 
in the
bounty hunting and mercinary practices of the game,  so  haven't 
really

looked that deeply into trading.

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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