Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Tip:
if you are using:
1. Jaws;
2. option | video set on Screen Reader or Braille;

Then press JawsKey+s till "Nothing", to avoid Jaws to tell lots of numbers and 
characters while TOC2 upgrades the shown map.


Gabriel. 



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Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Damien,

Well, I personally haven't had any issues understanding GMA's
documentation for their games so perhaps in your case you just need
things explained in more depth or something. Either that or just have
various terminology explained to you in  as simple a manner as
possible. I'm not really clear what the issue is, but I can try and
help you out if I can.

For example, a unit is a military term for a group of something. It
might be a group of infantry, it might be a group of tanks, it might
be a combination of those things. In Time of Conflict if you have a
group of infantry called Infantry 1 then that is a single unit of
infantry. If you have a group  of tanks called Armor 1 than that is a
single unit of tanks. Does that make sense?

Cheers!


On 4/17/14, Damien C. S. Pendleton  wrote:
> Hi John,
> I'm afraid to say, everything. I can move myself on the map, but that
> doesn't move my units. To be honest, I don't even know what "Units" are. I
> am assuming those are my fighters? I feel that the manual isn't very clear
> on some things.
> I don't know why, but I find similar issues with other GMA games due to
> unclear documentation as well. Not sure if that's just me or if others have
>
> experienced this. I think GMA tank commander is the only one I have grasped,
>
> but even then, I struggle to know where I am in the game world.
> Thanks.
> Damien.

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Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[john]

	Ok, here goes. The basic idea of the game is that you have to take over the entire map. You do this by capturing cities, and producing units with which you battle enemy units. A unit can be anything from infantry to tanks to fighters to 
battleships. Each different type of unit has its own capabilities, and takes a certain amount of time to build. When the game starts, you'll have one city, and have to decide what you want it to produce. This is rather strategic and will depend on 
your personal playing style, but its almost always a good idea to start with infantry, because they're the only unit that can capture other cities. Once you have a unit produced, you can command it in several different ways. Firstly, if you want to 
tell the unit exactly where to move, you can use the control key with the numpad keys (numlock must be on). The 5 is the center, with 8 being north, 6 being east, 4 being west and 2 being south. The difference from simply moving around the map 
virtually and actually causing a unit to move in a direction is the control key. If you hold down control, the unit that you currently have the cursor on will move in that direction. If you don't, you'll move the cursor to a new square, but won't 
actually move any units. Different units can move different numbers of squares per turn. Infantry for example, can only move one square, while fighters can move six. Combat between units occurs when you (or the computer) move a unit into a square 
that already contains a unit from the opposite team. Combat basically means that each unit tries to do one hit point of damage to another, until one of them is destroyed. Each time you attempt to damage an opponent, you have a 50% chance of success. 
This will continue until one or the other reaches 0 hits left, at which point the victor moves and the loser is gone. There are some ways to modify your percentage chances, and some units can attack from a distance, but we'll avoid those concepts for 
now.
	If you want to try a really simple game, set up a practice map of all land, and you should be able to produce a bunch of infantry and get the hang of telling them what to do. Its probably worth while to look at the operators portion of the 
manual while you play, but if that doesn't make sense let me know and I'll try to explain them. The idea of operators is that once you have hundreds or thousands of units across the map in dozens of cities, it gets tedious to specifically control all 
of them. Therefor, you can give them commands such as sentry, which makes them basically do nothing unless attacked, roam, which means that they try to uncover uncharted land, or move randomly, which is somewhat self explanatory.
	I'd highly recommend that you use the older version of the game until you get well familiarized with the interface. The new (2.0) version is vastly more complicated and you'll want to be solidly capable of playing 1.0 before you try it. If the 
setup isn't on the GMA website, let me know, and I'll see if I can get it out of my archives.

I hope this helped a little. If you need more info, contact me off-list 
and I'll try to write up something more comprehensive.


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Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[dark]

Hi Damien.

I will agree writing manuals isn't precisely david greenwood's strong 
poitnt, which is a bit problematic given how complex his games usually are.


I played Toc 1.0, 2.0 I'm still trying to work out (I've not got this 
business about time intervals yet).


But basically you move around the map with your arrow keys. There are cities 
that produce your various troop[s, so in the default world war 2 version 
(which was the only option in original toc), you have infantry, armored 
units, fighters, various sorts of ships etc.


You conquer a city by moving your infantry troops to it, if it's free you'll 
get it automatically, though if it's occupied you'll have to fight off any 
enemies around it. You can use the applications key (or f10), to command all 
of your units, or do various things, that indeed is your friend much of the 
time sinse with it you can do things like see what is the closest unit to a 
given square or place or command a unit to go there.


In original time of conflict you were always asked to command each unit in 
an order, so your first infantry would be set to command, then your second 
and so on, though if you set them to sentry you didn't have to keep 
commanding them, and if you set them to roming they'd just wander around 
your teretory (this is handy when you want lots of infantry patrolling an 
area).


As I said there is a lot in the new time of conflict I've not got to grips 
with yet, for example you now have units like engineers who can build other 
units, and you can create various installations and  bases and such, but 
hopefully that should give you a basic idea.


For time of conflict 1.0 David greenwood made some really good audio 
tutorials, it'd be nice if he could do that again now that so much more has 
been added to the game.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Damien C. S. Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help



Hi John,
I'm afraid to say, everything. I can move myself on the map, but that 
doesn't move my units. To be honest, I don't even know what "Units" are. I 
am assuming those are my fighters? I feel that the manual isn't very clear 
on some things.
I don't know why, but I find similar issues with other GMA games due to 
unclear documentation as well. Not sure if that's just me or if others 
have experienced this. I think GMA tank commander is the only one I have 
grasped, but even then, I struggle to know where I am in the game world.

Thanks.
Damien.

-----Original Message- 
From: john

Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:55 PM
To: gamers
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

I'd be glad to give you a hand. What exactly are you having trouble with; 
the map, commanding units, combat?



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Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[william lomas]

well on the g m a site it says the tutorials are only for the public beta in 
2010 what’s up with that?
no mention of this v2.0 of the title

On 17 Apr 2014, at 16:50, Damien C. S. Pendleton  
wrote:

> Hi John,
> I'm afraid to say, everything. I can move myself on the map, but that doesn't 
> move my units. To be honest, I don't even know what "Units" are. I am 
> assuming those are my fighters? I feel that the manual isn't very clear on 
> some things.
> I don't know why, but I find similar issues with other GMA games due to 
> unclear documentation as well. Not sure if that's just me or if others have 
> experienced this. I think GMA tank commander is the only one I have grasped, 
> but even then, I struggle to know where I am in the game world.
> Thanks.
> Damien.
> 
> -Original Message- From: john
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:55 PM
> To: gamers
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help
> 
> I'd be glad to give you a hand. What exactly are you having trouble with; the 
> map, commanding units, combat?
> 
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[Damien C. S. Pendleton]

Hi John,
I'm afraid to say, everything. I can move myself on the map, but that 
doesn't move my units. To be honest, I don't even know what "Units" are. I 
am assuming those are my fighters? I feel that the manual isn't very clear 
on some things.
I don't know why, but I find similar issues with other GMA games due to 
unclear documentation as well. Not sure if that's just me or if others have 
experienced this. I think GMA tank commander is the only one I have grasped, 
but even then, I struggle to know where I am in the game world.

Thanks.
Damien.

-Original Message- 
From: john

Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:55 PM
To: gamers
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

I'd be glad to give you a hand. What exactly are you having trouble with; 
the map, commanding units, combat?



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Re: [Audyssey] time of conflict help

[john]

I'd be glad to give you a hand. What exactly are you having trouble with; the 
map, commanding units, combat?

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Re: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

[Hayden Presley]

Hi Thomas,
Lol...looks just like what I said.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:07 PM
To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

Hi Lori,

If you can't find any more unexplored land there are a number of
things you can do. If you are on an island etc you can build
transports to cary your infantry units to other islands and land
troops there. If you still want your units to patrol your home islands
etc you can just set them to random and they move around randomly
looking for enemy units to destroy.

As for fighters they can be a great resource. Especially, in large
numbers. They have the advantage of traveling very far very fast. They
can attack enemy fighters, ships, cities, armoured units, infantry,
etc. The only downside is they are pretty easy to shoot down. However,
used with a carrier as a staging area you can usually use your
fighters to clear an island of several enemies before landing troops
and armour to take the island. I've done this many times and often use
fighters to soften up the enemy's positions before taking enemy cities
etc.


Cheers!


On 12/30/10, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi everyone, could someone tell me what to do when my inventry units and
> fighters can't find any more uncharted land to explore?  Have I created
too
> much for the map?  Also should I leave fighters for bigger more advanced
> battles rather than the practise maps?  I think this last game I ended up
> with more stuff than I knew what to do with.An empire out of
> control.
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Re: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Lori,

If you can't find any more unexplored land there are a number of
things you can do. If you are on an island etc you can build
transports to cary your infantry units to other islands and land
troops there. If you still want your units to patrol your home islands
etc you can just set them to random and they move around randomly
looking for enemy units to destroy.

As for fighters they can be a great resource. Especially, in large
numbers. They have the advantage of traveling very far very fast. They
can attack enemy fighters, ships, cities, armoured units, infantry,
etc. The only downside is they are pretty easy to shoot down. However,
used with a carrier as a staging area you can usually use your
fighters to clear an island of several enemies before landing troops
and armour to take the island. I've done this many times and often use
fighters to soften up the enemy's positions before taking enemy cities
etc.


Cheers!


On 12/30/10, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi everyone, could someone tell me what to do when my inventry units and
> fighters can't find any more uncharted land to explore?  Have I created too
> much for the map?  Also should I leave fighters for bigger more advanced
> battles rather than the practise maps?  I think this last game I ended up
> with more stuff than I knew what to do with.An empire out of
> control.
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Re: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

[dark]

Hi Lori.

Well the ultimate purpose of time of conflict is to slaughter your enemy and 
capture all of their cities, not to disocver all land, thus I usually stick 
infantry and fighters on random patrol unless I specifically want them 
somewhere.


As haiden said, if there are two islands you may need to travel across the 
sea to land troops and attack, which you'll need a troop transport for.


Fighters are useful sinse they have huge range and can storm enemy targits, 
whether bombarding cities, taking out enemy infantry or even better in sea 
battles (fighters are great against batleships).


Actually, on smaller maps fighters can be great, sinse they won't need to 
use an air crarft carrier as a staging area.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:06 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help


Hi everyone, could someone tell me what to do when my inventry units and 
fighters can't find any more uncharted land to explore?  Have I created 
too much for the map?  Also should I leave fighters for bigger more 
advanced battles rather than the practise maps?  I think this last game I 
ended up with more stuff than I knew what to do with.An empire 
out of control.

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Re: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

[Hayden Presley]

Hi,
Oh--don't think that you should do that with fighters. They can be a very
valuable resource for weaking enemy units, possibly even destroying them. As
for your infantry not finding anymore uncharted land--if there is any water
you'll need to make a Troop Transport in a coastal city if you haven't
already done so. If you have done that, and they still aren't finding
anything, try sending them ashore in enemy territory.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:06 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

Hi everyone, could someone tell me what to do when my inventry units and
fighters can't find any more uncharted land to explore?  Have I created too
much for the map?  Also should I leave fighters for bigger more advanced
battles rather than the practise maps?  I think this last game I ended up
with more stuff than I knew what to do with.An empire out of
control.  
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[Audyssey] Time of Conflict help

[Lori Duncan]

Hi everyone, could someone tell me what to do when my inventry units and 
fighters can't find any more uncharted land to explore?  Have I created too 
much for the map?  Also should I leave fighters for bigger more advanced 
battles rather than the practise maps?  I think this last game I ended up with 
more stuff than I knew what to do with.An empire out of control.  
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