Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-17 Thread Darren Duff
What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone! 

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Im with you here   charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been 
crushed and spat out and run over.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, 
but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would like them to have 
been a member rather than still being one.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
 finished, you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


 Hello all,

 Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
 evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
 hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
 everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
 person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
 could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
 then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
 sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
 you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
 contrary.

 Cheers!

 On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at, 
 he
 or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
 finished,

 you! really! are! finished!

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-17 Thread Charles Rivard
It matters because you might want to know who you are dealing with if they 
show up on another list you subscribe to.  You might want to make the owners 
and moderators of the problem that may crop up on their list.


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From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone!

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Im with you here   charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been
crushed and spat out and run over.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed,
but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would like them to have
been a member rather than still being one.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished, you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hello all,

Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
contrary.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at,
he
or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished,

you! really! are! finished!


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-17 Thread Bryan Peterson

An excellent point.



They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

It matters because you might want to know who you are dealing with if they
show up on another list you subscribe to.  You might want to make the owners
and moderators of the problem that may crop up on their list.

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Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone!

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Im with you here   charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been
crushed and spat out and run over.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed,
but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would like them to have
been a member rather than still being one.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished, you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hello all,

Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
contrary.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at,
he
or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished,

you! really! are! finished!


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
This whole recent thing of spoofed messages really got me upset. I mean, 
the idiot didn't impersonate me. What gives??? Talk about 
discrimination, right? smile. Just kidding.



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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-17 Thread Darren Duff
Fair points. I didn't think of that! Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Rivard
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:29 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

It matters because you might want to know who you are dealing with if they
show up on another list you subscribe to.  You might want to make the owners
and moderators of the problem that may crop up on their list.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


 What does it matter if the person is delt with and the problem is gone!

 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa 
 Hayes
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:07 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

 Im with you here   charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been
 crushed and spat out and run over.
 Lisa Hayes




 www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been 
confirmed, but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would 
like them to have been a member rather than still being one.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
 finished, you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


 Hello all,

 Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without 
 evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead 
 to hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all 
 because everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the 
 record the person who did these attacks does not have to be on the 
 list, and could have used the list archives to find who the top 
 posters were and then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use 
 a bit of common sense here and assume whomever the person was is not 
 necessarily who you think may or may not have done it until we have 
 evidence to the contrary.

 Cheers!

 On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point 
 at, he or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
 finished,

 you! really! are! finished!

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread K
Amen Dark. Could not have said it better myself. (not for a lack of 
trying.).


K
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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


I suspect lori it doesn't have a reason, or at least a coherent one. I've 
actually been thinking about this recently, that for all the horrors and 
torments and attrosities committed in the names of causes from dogmatic 
religion to nationalism or ratial supremecy, it's quite frightinening how 
many criminal acts from petty vanadalism to theft, assault, murder happen 
simply because they happen, because said individuals are incapable of 
understanding the feelings of others or caring about the trouble they 
cause, it's often just an impulse of hay look, what happens if I do so and 
so Said people never really grew up, it's just a shame that the law and 
society can considder them adults when in their head they aren't.


Beware the grue!

dark.
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From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Ulysses Garcia

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa 
Hayes

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello all,

Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
contrary.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at, he
 or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,

 you! really! are! finished!

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well said. That's exactly what I was trying to get at in one of my
prior posts. Some people just lack the ability to care about other
people and are selfish to the core, never grew up, and are not
altogether capable of thinking rationally about the harm that they do.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 I suspect lori it doesn't have a reason, or at least a coherent one. I've
 actually been thinking about this recently, that for all the horrors and
 torments and attrosities committed in the names of causes from dogmatic
 religion to nationalism or ratial supremecy, it's quite frightinening how
 many criminal acts from petty vanadalism to theft, assault, murder happen
 simply because they happen, because said individuals are incapable of
 understanding the feelings of others or caring about the trouble they cause,

 it's often just an impulse of hay look, what happens if I do so and so
 Said people never really grew up, it's just a shame that the law and society

 can considder them adults when in their head they aren't.

 Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ulysses,

Oh, I am sure there is a scientific reason, but I am no expert on the
human brain, and am not qualified to make a judgment about the
person's mental state of mind. Neither am I qualified to pose
reasonable suggestions as for why they behave the way they do. All I
can do is state the obvious.

The person or persons responsible are obviously mentally ill, and may
be angry at the world and are acting out to vent their anger at
themselves or the world. It is even remotely possible the person is
jellies of the people he or she targeted to try and bring them down
for their pleasure or amusement. Whatever the reason for the attack
the person needs mental help and is acting out because they simply
don't care how much pain and suffering they cause or if their words
hurt people or not.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There must be a reason, Thomas, why they feel this way. I try to take
 the perspective of a scientist. What would they say, that they lacked
 serotonin or something of the sort?
 I talked a lot about this on my blog at
 http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/ If you have any more to say I
 suggest we talk one-on-one so we do not clutter up the list with things
 like this.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Charles Rivard
I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, 
but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would like them to have 
been a member rather than still being one.


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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hello all,

Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
contrary.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at, 
he

or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread shaun everiss

Yeah probably, this list is good for what it is.
But if you really want something spaciffic the audiogames.net forums 
are also good.

Every so often we are getting over run with zombies.
Hay where is aprone in all this, seriously, I need my marlin.

At 05:52 PM 12/15/2013, you wrote:
Didn't something like this happen sometime last year or the year 
before? I remember my emailaddress was one of those that were used that time.




They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message- From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:44 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Hello, List:

The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am 
disgusted, like all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack 
against us, and the person who did this will be held responsible. 
The person responsible seems to have evaded moderation and will 
continue to do so until I figure this out. I apologize for this, 
please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.


Sincerely,
Thomas Ward
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Ken Downey
Yet they aren't so insane as to be unable to, to some degree, accurately 
emulate posters. I recently did a games we wouldn't like to play post, and 
that was used, and he tries to emulate the gramatical ecumen of posters, so 
when he writes as tom he writes full-length, well-punctuate sentences. He is 
a very sick individual, whoever he may be.

Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, 
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- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Ulysses,

Oh, I am sure there is a scientific reason, but I am no expert on the
human brain, and am not qualified to make a judgment about the
person's mental state of mind. Neither am I qualified to pose
reasonable suggestions as for why they behave the way they do. All I
can do is state the obvious.

The person or persons responsible are obviously mentally ill, and may
be angry at the world and are acting out to vent their anger at
themselves or the world. It is even remotely possible the person is
jellies of the people he or she targeted to try and bring them down
for their pleasure or amusement. Whatever the reason for the attack
the person needs mental help and is acting out because they simply
don't care how much pain and suffering they cause or if their words
hurt people or not.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote:

There must be a reason, Thomas, why they feel this way. I try to take
the perspective of a scientist. What would they say, that they lacked
serotonin or something of the sort?
I talked a lot about this on my blog at
http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/ If you have any more to say I
suggest we talk one-on-one so we do not clutter up the list with things
like this.


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Ulysses Garcia
Yeah, Thomas fake message about moderating the list sounded so legit but 
then I caught myself and said maybe this was their way of psyching 
someone out.

On 12/16/2013 9:24 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been 
confirmed, but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would 
like them to have been a member rather than still being one.


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thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hello all,

Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
contrary.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point 
at, he

or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ken,

I noticed that as well. Whoever is behind these attacks is very
familiar with our list and the people who frequently send posts to
this list. Had I not known any better the faked moderator messages
appeared to be from me, but of course I knew for 100% sure they
weren't from me, but the fact is as fakes they were certainly
believable. The person took time and lots of thought of attempting to
imitate my grammar, style, and accuracy. I guess this person is on
this list or has been a member for some time to pick up that kind of
detailed information about his intended victims.

Cheers!


On 12/16/13, Ken Downey kenwdow...@thepionear.net wrote:
 Yet they aren't so insane as to be unable to, to some degree, accurately
 emulate posters. I recently did a games we wouldn't like to play post, and
 that was used, and he tries to emulate the gramatical ecumen of posters, so

 when he writes as tom he writes full-length, well-punctuate sentences. He is

 a very sick individual, whoever he may be.
 Check out my games at
 www.ThePionEar.net
 and my music, and that of my band, at
 www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
 Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
 If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook,
 (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Tyler
Some creeps browse mailing list archives. Not that all archive browsers are 
creeps.
Tyler Z
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:11:45 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:


Hi Ken,

I noticed that as well. Whoever is behind these attacks is very
familiar with our list and the people who frequently send posts to
this list. Had I not known any better the faked moderator messages
appeared to be from me, but of course I knew for 100% sure they
weren't from me, but the fact is as fakes they were certainly
believable. The person took time and lots of thought of attempting to
imitate my grammar, style, and accuracy. I guess this person is on
this list or has been a member for some time to pick up that kind of
detailed information about his intended victims.

Cheers!


On 12/16/13, Ken Downey kenwdow...@thepionear.net wrote:
Yet they aren't so insane as to be unable to, to some degree, accurately
emulate posters. I recently did a games we wouldn't like to play post, and
that was used, and he tries to emulate the gramatical ecumen of posters, so

when he writes as tom he writes full-length, well-punctuate sentences. He is

a very sick individual, whoever he may be.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook,
(KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Tyler,

That is true. I also mentioned this on the list in one of my previous
messages that the person may not be on the list but merely uses the
list archives to find who who posts a lot and then attempts to fake
their messages.

Cheers!


On 12/16/13, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
 Some creeps browse mailing list archives. Not that all archive browsers are
 creeps.
 Tyler Z
 On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:11:45 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:


Hi Ken,

I noticed that as well. Whoever is behind these attacks is very
familiar with our list and the people who frequently send posts to
this list. Had I not known any better the faked moderator messages
appeared to be from me, but of course I knew for 100% sure they
weren't from me, but the fact is as fakes they were certainly
believable. The person took time and lots of thought of attempting to
imitate my grammar, style, and accuracy. I guess this person is on
this list or has been a member for some time to pick up that kind of
detailed information about his intended victims.

Cheers!


On 12/16/13, Ken Downey kenwdow...@thepionear.net wrote:
Yet they aren't so insane as to be unable to, to some degree, accurately
emulate posters. I recently did a games we wouldn't like to play post,
 and
that was used, and he tries to emulate the gramatical ecumen of posters,
 so

when he writes as tom he writes full-length, well-punctuate sentences. He
 is

a very sick individual, whoever he may be.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on
 Facebook,
(KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-16 Thread Lisa Hayes
Im with you here   charles i'd like to know who it is, after they've been 
crushed and spat out and run over.

Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


I would like it to be told who the person was, once it has been confirmed, 
but only then.  If that person is a list member, I would like them to have 
been a member rather than still being one.


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- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hello all,

Charles is right. Pointing fingers, making accusations, etc without
evidence does not do anyone any good at all. All it will do is lead to
hard feelings and could cause a bad situation to get worse all because
everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else. For the record the
person who did these attacks does not have to be on the list, and
could have used the list archives to find who the top posters were and
then fake their addresses anonymously. So let's use a bit of common
sense here and assume whomever the person was is not necessarily who
you think may or may not have done it until we have evidence to the
contrary.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at, 
he

or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Chris H
You go boy! If you are using Mailman you shouldn't have any problems 
dealing with the offender(s).


On 14/12/2013 23:44, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello, List:

The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like all 
of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who did 
this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have evaded 
moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I apologize for 
this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.

Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Uh? I did not send this message, but someone sent this message for me.
Talk about insane. Now the spammer is spoofing the moderator?

On 12/14/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, List:

 The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like
 all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who
 did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have
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 apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Lisa Hayes

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Uh? I did not send this message, but someone sent this message for me.
Talk about insane. Now the spammer is spoofing the moderator?

On 12/14/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello, List:

The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, 
like
all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person 
who

did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have
evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I
apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.

Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Angela Randall
I saw about 3 pages of messages. We had a problem similar to this on the
sightexchange email list.


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
 load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
 around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
 saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
 this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
 mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
 wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

 Cheers!


 On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
  Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
  Lisa Hayes
 
 
 
 
  www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Ken Downey
He did this crap a few years ago. Just look for a lister who has 
consistantly bad grammar and poor use of punctuation. I already have a 
theory as to who it is, but I'm not pointing any fingers just yet.

Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, 
(KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Lisa Hayes

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Sky Mundell
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried
to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


 Hi Lisa,

 The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
 load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
 around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
 saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
 this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
 mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
 wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

 Cheers!


 On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
 Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Ulysses Garcia
I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot 
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked 
crashing everyone's screen readers.

On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried
to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread loriduncan

Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Ulysses Garcia

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lori,

Cheap thrills. Some people have really antisocial behaviors like
hurting people, messing things up for others, or just breaking things
because they can. It doesn't make sense to you because you are a kind,
caring, and decent person. They lack those qualities, and for that
reason are unable to show empathy or care about what others  think or
feel. They do whatever whenever for their own sadistic pleasure.

Cheers!

On 12/15/13, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
Probably because they have no life and can think of nothing better to do 
with their time. That and they're just perverted.




They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message- 
From: loriduncan

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:49 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Ulysses Garcia

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
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Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




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Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Ulysses Garcia
There must be a reason, Thomas, why they feel this way. I try to take 
the perspective of a scientist. What would they say, that they lacked 
serotonin or something of the sort?
I talked a lot about this on my blog at 
http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/ If you have any more to say I 
suggest we talk one-on-one so we do not clutter up the list with things 
like this.

On 12/15/2013 1:56 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Lori,

Cheap thrills. Some people have really antisocial behaviors like
hurting people, messing things up for others, or just breaking things
because they can. It doesn't make sense to you because you are a kind,
caring, and decent person. They lack those qualities, and for that
reason are unable to show empathy or care about what others  think or
feel. They do whatever whenever for their own sadistic pleasure.

Cheers!

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Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Tyler
I think it's because the people who make games for the blind don't include 
video. When I first heard about 
games for the blind, I imagined a video game where you don't need the video 
part, but it's there. Like a 
mainstream game that sighted people play that also has accessible features. So 
sighted games leave blind people 
out, but blind games leave sighted people out. Some games are in between; they 
are video games, but have a lot of 
audio cues. So they're upset because the happy medium is hardly ever reached.
Tyler Z
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:57:15 -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote:


Probably because they have no life and can think of nothing better to do 
with their time. That and they're just perverted.



They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
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Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
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I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried
to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
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Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




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Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Lisa Hayes
You're probably right ihave my own suspicions as to who it is, but i'm  not 
saying  except in a private note to thomas, i can't affor the liable suite, 
grin.

Lisa Hayes




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From: Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages


I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
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Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Charles Rivard
I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point at, he 
or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.


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I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
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Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread dark
I suspect lori it doesn't have a reason, or at least a coherent one. I've 
actually been thinking about this recently, that for all the horrors and 
torments and attrosities committed in the names of causes from dogmatic 
religion to nationalism or ratial supremecy, it's quite frightinening how 
many criminal acts from petty vanadalism to theft, assault, murder happen 
simply because they happen, because said individuals are incapable of 
understanding the feelings of others or caring about the trouble they cause, 
it's often just an impulse of hay look, what happens if I do so and so 
Said people never really grew up, it's just a shame that the law and society 
can considder them adults when in their head they aren't.


Beware the grue!

dark.
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Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread dark

Hi Tyler.

While I agree in principle, it's not an either ore situation. I have some 
working vision and have played graphical games all my life, and still do, 
especially in the freeware and indi section.


There is no earthly reason a sighted person can't play an audio game, in the 
same way there is no earthly reason a sighted person can't listen to an 
audio drama.


While I agree accessible games with full graphics are a great way to 
introduced sighted gamers to the concept of audio games, at the same time I 
don't think it's an absolute necessity. The main problem is most audio games 
are marketed as Games for the blind and if something is for the blind 
average Jo Blogs sighted gamer will avoid it like the plague since he will 
assume it's for those crazy alien blind creatures and not for him.


In all the research I've done it's this avoidance, this perception of 
difference in disability terms that seems to make the difference.


Yet, just as lots of sighted people still listen to audio dramas, with the 
Iphone we are slowly seeing a number of sighted people getting interested in 
audio games as a unique genre of their own. Games like Papasangre have made 
a major difference here, and one I hope will continue, it's just a shame 
that people like david Greenwood who have been making audio games  for years 
can't seem to be able to bennifit from the same sort of interest.


Maybe part of it is the emphasis on games for the blind and 
accessible,  which, while i fully agree are good concepts, probably 
shouldn't be on the front of your website, or maybe it's just a desimination 
thing since there's no denying the ap store is a convenient way of 
advertising as well as distributing,  or maybe it's just that as   the 
culture of personal tablets and the like grows, people are  taking more 
notice of audio.


Either way i  don't think it's the lack of graphics not anymore.

Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Cara Quinn
Audio quake is a really good example of a balance of a game playable by both 
sighted and blind players.

the excellent work by Matthew Atkinson and our very own Sebby, is meant to 
illustrate the concept we've been discussing here and achieves this 
phenomenally well!

So the idea that games cannot have universal access without essentially being 
no good really seems to be a case that many devs are maybe not letting their 
imaginations run wild enough. :)

It's not only possible but is amazingly cool as well.

Thanks to Matthew and Sebby! Y'all rock!

Smiles,

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On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:

I think it's because the people who make games for the blind don't include 
video. When I first heard about 
games for the blind, I imagined a video game where you don't need the video 
part, but it's there. Like a 
mainstream game that sighted people play that also has accessible features. So 
sighted games leave blind people 
out, but blind games leave sighted people out. Some games are in between; they 
are video games, but have a lot of 
audio cues. So they're upset because the happy medium is hardly ever reached.
Tyler Z
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:57:15 -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote:


 Probably because they have no life and can think of nothing better to do 
 with their time. That and they're just perverted.
 
 
 
 They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
 -Original Message- 
 From: loriduncan
 Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:49 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
 
 Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Ulysses Garcia
 Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
 
 I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
 his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
 crashing everyone's screen readers.
 On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
 I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who 
 tried
 to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
 Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
 
 Sopme folk are just criminals.
 Lisa Hayes
 
 
 
 
 www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
 
 
 Hi Lisa,
 
 The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
 load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
 around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
 saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
 this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
 mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
 wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-15 Thread Ulysses Garcia
said individuals need to increase neural connections in their brains and 
improve cognitive skills. Bet what we need is a person who is motivated 
into doing so.

On 12/15/2013 5:48 PM, dark wrote:
I suspect lori it doesn't have a reason, or at least a coherent one. 
I've actually been thinking about this recently, that for all the 
horrors and torments and attrosities committed in the names of causes 
from dogmatic religion to nationalism or ratial supremecy, it's quite 
frightinening how many criminal acts from petty vanadalism to theft, 
assault, murder happen simply because they happen, because said 
individuals are incapable of understanding the feelings of others or 
caring about the trouble they cause, it's often just an impulse of 
hay look, what happens if I do so and so Said people never really 
grew up, it's just a shame that the law and society can considder them 
adults when in their head they aren't.


Beware the grue!

dark.
- Original Message - From: loriduncan 
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

-Original Message- From: Ulysses Garcia
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man 
who tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa 
Hayes

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes




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2013-12-15 Thread Ulysses Garcia
One should not be upset at one's suspicions, yet it is human nature to 
protect oneself.

On 12/15/2013 5:06 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
I wouldn't mention names on list.  If it's not the person you point 
at, he or she might get rather upset, and I wouldn't blame them.


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- Original Message - From: Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:00 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man 
who tried

to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa 
Hayes

Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward 
thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hi Lisa,

The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess until 6:30 this morning when I got out of bed and saw the
mess. All the other messages supposedly sent by me were sent when I
wasn't even home or was fast asleep in bed.

Cheers!


On 12/15/13, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote:

Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-14 Thread Dennis Towne
Thanks, Thomas.  This sort of thing is terrible to deal with and often
quite nerve wracking, and I've had to deal with my share of it in the
past.  I won't be going anywhere.

Dennis Towne

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 Hello, List:

 The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like 
 all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who 
 did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have 
 evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I 
 apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, I’ll be here, too. Hope you can find the problem without too much 
headache. :)

teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, List:
 
 The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like 
 all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who 
 did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have 
 evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I 
 apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.
 
 Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-14 Thread Ulysses Garcia
I am hoping to begin a new realm of alternative measures to deal with 
these spammers. http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com.
I am not sure if it was a random spammer. Obviously someone knows what 
the tool kit is. I have seen this on the Blast Bay Forum under someone 
named Truth.

On 12/14/2013 11:44 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello, List:
  
The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like all of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and the person who did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.
  
Sincerely,

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-14 Thread Bryan Peterson
Didn't something like this happen sometime last year or the year before? I 
remember my emailaddress was one of those that were used that time.




They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
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Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 4:44 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Hello, List:

The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like 
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did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems to have 
evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this out. I 
apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it out.


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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-14 Thread Bryan Peterson
Me neither. Because when someone isn't using it for BS like this the list is 
a fun and informative place. I just hope my address wasn't one of those used 
this time. I don't know because I don't receive my own messages to the list 
anymore for some reason.




They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Towne

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:45 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

Thanks, Thomas.  This sort of thing is terrible to deal with and often
quite nerve wracking, and I've had to deal with my share of it in the
past.  I won't be going anywhere.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


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Hello, List:

The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, 
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person who did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems 
to have evaded moderation and will continue to do so until I figure this 
out. I apologize for this, please do not unsubscribe. I will figure it 
out.


Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages

2013-12-14 Thread Lisa Hayes
Im going no where thomas no way. I know you and when you find this so 
called erson i'd not like to be them.

Lisa Hayes




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- Original Message - 
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages



Hello, List:

The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, 
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person who did this will be held responsible. The person responsible seems 
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out.


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