Re: g_b Honeymoon Travels Vs. Eklavya !
Hey Icarius all the Friends, I jst saw Honeymoon Travels Pvt. Ltd. today only and completely agree with your views...I loved the way Gay thing is portrayed in this movie...and of course loved both Guys too...!!!Let me correct you in one pointthe girl with Abhay Deol is not Isha Sarwani,but she is Minisha Lamba..(from 'Naam Ada Likhna' - Yahaan).Abhay looked cute too! And Eklavya i have yet to see(got the info about the gay aspect there also , from your mail, i didn't know this !) Guys, watch HTPL...It's a nice light comedy movie...The song 'Tu hi to mera sansar re' is picturised too well!!! Rgds... icarius_slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys ! I've seen quite a few raging discussions on the depiction of homosexuality in Honeymoon Travels Pvt. Ltd. (HTPL) Eklavya. Well, here are my few pennies of thought on this matter. HTPL : _ I definetly enjoyed the gay angle of HTPL. It was shown very nicely, compared to the trashy or stereotypical way it has been shown earlier in Hindi films. The guys were definetly cute :-) and I must admire the panache with which Vikram Chatwal essayed the role so welli mean, obviously prejudiced by the playboy kinda image that has been portratyed of him in the media, i expected some boombastic character (a la Salman Khan) from him in his first movie. But the subtle way in which he portrayed the role was so endearingI just couldn't believe it.When he utters the words, I am gay to sanshya Mridul, i got shivers down my spine. I was reminded of how i felt when i came out to few of my str8 (guy gal) pals...and this was his 1st mainstream hindi film. Hats off to him. The other guy (Amisha Patel's hubby) was also cute, esp. in the scene where he is wearing shorty shorts on the beach is a total eye candy ;-) However, towards the end, the film meanders inconclusivelywithout any plausible ending, wrt this gay angleand that's something which so isappointed me :-( BTW, Abhay Deol looked SO gay in the filmand so awkward gawky too. His voice resembled that of a lady and so did his mannerisms. Isha sarvani looked more cute more boy-ish than he ! So much for a Superman But overall, the movie was very good nice timepass :-) EKLAVYA : I could guess that Boman Irani's character is gay, from the very mo he starts reading the sonnet to Sharmila tagore.gaydar on overdrive ? Maybe ! In fact, i thought that his lover was jackie shroff !!! His effeminate mannerisms added fuel to the fire.and the way he eyes 1 of his servants while the latter is cutting his nails, is a total give-away ! Movie has excellent cinematography picturesque locales...but some VERY corny dialogues. Anyways, these were simply my humble opinions.totally respect what others have to say on the films. Have a great day everyone !!! Icarius - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
Re: g_b Looking for employee in India
Hi Guys Well I have a lot of interst in gay stuff.am writing a book on the same subject .It is something which makes me think and ponder over , I know i will make it big one day in the media, well am not a web devloper but will be able to contribute the matter to the portal do let me know iof iam can be of some use to yu guys . thank you regards Kunal patcook75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I work for a Canadian company who is specialized in gay websites. We are looking for new Indian employee who can work from India. They must have experience. We need computer programmer. If you have any contact, please, let me know. Thanks - Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers
Re: g_b Honeymoon Travels Vs. Eklavya !
Hey dude, First of all thanks for noting penning down such lovely comments on the films, wellur name sounds so different. Would love to keep a good healthy net frendship with good thinkers like minded guys. I hope you wont mind. Im Sumer 38yrs, from Mumbai working abroad presently. More to discuss only if you wish to.. Hope to see ur reply. regards, S. icarius_slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys ! I've seen quite a few raging discussions on the depiction of homosexuality in Honeymoon Travels Pvt. Ltd. (HTPL) Eklavya. Well, here are my few pennies of thought on this matter. HTPL : _ I definetly enjoyed the gay angle of HTPL. It was shown very nicely, compared to the trashy or stereotypical way it has been shown earlier in Hindi films. The guys were definetly cute :-) and I must admire the panache with which Vikram Chatwal essayed the role so welli mean, obviously prejudiced by the playboy kinda image that has been portratyed of him in the media, i expected some boombastic character (a la Salman Khan) from him in his first movie. But the subtle way in which he portrayed the role was so endearingI just couldn't believe it.When he utters the words, I am gay to sanshya Mridul, i got shivers down my spine. I was reminded of how i felt when i came out to few of my str8 (guy gal) pals...and this was his 1st mainstream hindi film. Hats off to him. The other guy (Amisha Patel's hubby) was also cute, esp. in the scene where he is wearing shorty shorts on the beach is a total eye candy ;-) However, towards the end, the film meanders inconclusivelywithout any plausible ending, wrt this gay angleand that's something which so isappointed me :-( BTW, Abhay Deol looked SO gay in the filmand so awkward gawky too. His voice resembled that of a lady and so did his mannerisms. Isha sarvani looked more cute more boy-ish than he ! So much for a Superman But overall, the movie was very good nice timepass :-) EKLAVYA : I could guess that Boman Irani's character is gay, from the very mo he starts reading the sonnet to Sharmila tagore.gaydar on overdrive ? Maybe ! In fact, i thought that his lover was jackie shroff !!! His effeminate mannerisms added fuel to the fire.and the way he eyes 1 of his servants while the latter is cutting his nails, is a total give-away ! Movie has excellent cinematography picturesque locales...but some VERY corny dialogues. Anyways, these were simply my humble opinions.totally respect what others have to say on the films. Have a great day everyone !!! Icarius - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
Re: g_b WRIST BANDS
I agree with Cooper. Why must we wear our sexuality on our sleeve (or wrist?). Do heterosexual men wear some sort of identification to let the girls know they're straight (hate the term)? It's time the gay world stopped being so paranoid about being able to get the right catch. There's nothing wrong with bumbling our way through relationships the same as the rest of the world does. manu nehru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Cooper, I think he was just suggesting that wrist bands or some such thing be worn for gays to easily identify each other and thus avoid running into the wrong guys. Manu doc cop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi yesterday someone was inquiring about coloured wrist bands to show there sexual preferances Why should one where his sexuality on his hand??? hetrosexuals have a wide range of sexual preferances do they wear it on their hands they find a freind and see if that person can b a mate too and tehn explore the sexual compatibility and normally make the best out of it hence why should gays make the sex preferance their identity or the priority in finding a freind cooper - Tried the new MSN Messenger? Its cool! Download now. - Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: g_b WRIST BANDS
Well friends ! Before this wrist band business, the only reliable indicator for Gays worldover was a small tattoo, invariably of a Scorpion at the angle of thumb and first fingerWhy, bacause when u r holding a glass in Bar, others could see it easily and get their signal ! Monty --- manu nehru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cooper, I think he was just suggesting that wrist bands or some such thing be worn for gays to easily identify each other and thus avoid running into the wrong guys. Manu doc cop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi yesterday someone was inquiring about coloured wrist bands to show there sexual preferances Why should one where his sexuality on his hand??? hetrosexuals have a wide range of sexual preferances do they wear it on their hands they find a freind and see if that person can b a mate too and tehn explore the sexual compatibility and normally make the best out of it hence why should gays make the sex preferance their identity or the priority in finding a freind cooper - Tried the new MSN Messenger? Its cool! Download now. - Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: g_b Black Magic Night @ NOIR, Le Meridien, Bangalore on 18th March 07...
Yes it is.. See the note that Good As You has created this safe space.. G.A.Y. is a gay support group in Bangalore... On 08 Mar 2007 20:51:53 -0800, Karna Mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is this a gay event?.not very clear from your messageWould be happy if you ncould clarify lol Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, seth_plate1976 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]seth_plate1976%40yahoo.co.uk) wrote: Black Magic Night @ NOIR Leave your poisons at home and hallucinate on a dose of psychedelic desi remixes with class and style Don those big sun glasses and go wild on vivid sound at the uber-chic club NOIR @ Hotel Le Meridien, Bangalore on 18th March 2007 from 7pm onwards. Scene to be seen in! Special gifts for your gal pals as an extension of Women's Day celebration! Secret surprises lurk within! ;-) Minimum requirements: 1) 550/- 2) Sunglasses 3) Black togs 4) Hottitude!! You get: === 1) Two large drinks with mixers or a pint of beer 2) Veg n non-veg starters Disclaimer: == 1) May cause blindness without sunglasses! :-) 2) In case you OD, dance harder!! PS: === * Good As You, as a support group, has created this comfort/safe space. This is the first party at a 5 star property. So please be sensitive to the comfort levels of others and behave and dress accordingly. * If found indulging in any hanky panky you shall be asked to leave the party. * A special REQUEST: During and after the party please DO NOT gather outside the venue. The management has requested us to ensure that, in the middle of the night, the peace of the neighbourhood is not disturbed. * Rights of admission reserved. * Dinner will not be served.
RE: g_b Blood So Impure ????
I wonder if a person with blood sugar level upto 200 should donate blood??? Can anyone throw some light on this. Also I want to know, is there any impact on gay life due to this high level of blood sugar. Regards, Manthan. _ From: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of icarius_slade Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:43 AM To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: g_b Blood So Impure Hi guys ! Sometime back, i had gone to donate blood at the bloodbank of Lilavati Hospital at Bandra, for a friend of mine, who was in urgent need of it. Before the needful was done however, we had to fill in a (sort of) medical history form where stuff like whether u were sufferring from asthma, jaundice etc. were asked.pretty normal fare. And then, i froze ! Somewhere down below was a qustion R U a homosexual ? I was obviously shocked ! What is the need for asking such a stupid question ? How on earth could a respectable hospital like Lilavati, where all the top filmstars etc. go for their treatment, be so regressive ? I asked 1 of my doctor pals he said that the Govt. of india had definetly not made any such idiotic norm. Then why this discrimination ? The only reason i could come up with was that because of the stereotype of gays being promiscious, we perhaps fell under some kind of high-risk category hence, if i'd have ticked yes, they'd have denied me permission to donate blood, DESPITE me being completely healthy ! But why this discrimination against us ? Does this mean that heterosexuals have purer blood ? For all u know, the hetero guy/gal standing by my side might be HIV+ve while I am not still my blood may not be given, purely for me being a gay.and the patient may just die. I was reminded of one episode in Queer as Folk (the US version) where Brian is denied from giving his blood to save Mike, just because he was gay.If this can happen in a developed society like the US, what abt. lesser mortals like us ? VERY HESITATINGLY, i had to tick the No column, as the patient reqd. blood urgently and there was no time to be wasted on arguments. It wrenched my heart, but i didn't have any option. I had to attend to another urgent engagement that day due to which, i had to push off early. Do other hospitals in Bby, or for that matter, anywhere else in India, ask for this criterion ? What logic does it serve ? Thought that i'd bring it to the attention of every member of this group... Icarius
Re: g_b Blood So Impure ????
You took a right decision dude. You should have spat on that paper and given it to the doctor. But donating blood to your friend was more important than such pitty things. cheers Walnut icarius_slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys ! Sometime back, i had gone to donate blood at the bloodbank of Lilavati Hospital at Bandra, for a friend of mine, who was in urgent need of it. Before the needful was done however, we had to fill in a (sort of) medical history form where stuff like whether u were sufferring from asthma, jaundice etc. were asked.pretty normal fare. And then, i froze ! Somewhere down below was a qustion R U a homosexual ? I was obviously shocked ! What is the need for asking such a stupid question ? How on earth could a respectable hospital like Lilavati, where all the top filmstars etc. go for their treatment, be so regressive ? I asked 1 of my doctor pals he said that the Govt. of india had definetly not made any such idiotic norm. Then why this discrimination ? The only reason i could come up with was that because of the stereotype of gays being promiscious, we perhaps fell under some kind of high-risk category hence, if i'd have ticked yes, they'd have denied me permission to donate blood, DESPITE me being completely healthy ! But why this discrimination against us ? Does this mean that heterosexuals have purer blood ? For all u know, the hetero guy/gal standing by my side might be HIV+ve while I am not still my blood may not be given, purely for me being a gay.and the patient may just die. I was reminded of one episode in Queer as Folk (the US version) where Brian is denied from giving his blood to save Mike, just because he was gay.If this can happen in a developed society like the US, what abt. lesser mortals like us ? VERY HESITATINGLY, i had to tick the No column, as the patient reqd. blood urgently and there was no time to be wasted on arguments. It wrenched my heart, but i didn't have any option. I had to attend to another urgent engagement that day due to which, i had to push off early. Do other hospitals in Bby, or for that matter, anywhere else in India, ask for this criterion ? What logic does it serve ? Thought that i'd bring it to the attention of every member of this group... Icarius - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: g_b WRIST BANDS
In the U.S. guys used to wear color hankies in their back pocket to show what kind of sex they liked, and left or right pocket meant top or bottom. That was a bit before my time (the 70s) and I think it went away, in part, because gays just didn't want everybody seeing what they were. And even though there were lots of hanky colors to mean lots of things, it was probably still too simplistic. In leather crowds or bear crowds they might still be used, but only at the bar or party, not out in public. Peter --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, manu nehru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cooper, I think he was just suggesting that wrist bands or some such thing be worn for gays to easily identify each other and thus avoid running into the wrong guys. Manu doc cop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi yesterday someone was inquiring about coloured wrist bands to show there sexual preferances Why should one where his sexuality on his hand??? hetrosexuals have a wide range of sexual preferances do they wear it on their hands they find a freind and see if that person can b a mate too and tehn explore the sexual compatibility and normally make the best out of it hence why should gays make the sex preferance their identity or the priority in finding a freind cooper - Tried the new MSN Messenger? It's cool! Download now. - Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers
g_b from DNA: can brands go bent?
Yet another non-story created primarily out of a desire to fill space and look cool by taking a gay angle. Still this is marginally better done than some of the others that have appeared recently. Like the HT story (front page lead!) which tried to interpret the Motorola ad with the Dolce and Gabbana endorsement as evidence that Motorola was advertising to gays in India (would have loved to be in the Motorola office when that came out!). Followed by another in HT about how St.Petersburg was now the Indian gay holiday destination of choice. I know quite a few rich gay guys, but they're more likely to go to Panjim than St.Petersburg! This story at least speaks to a few people and explores the issue of gay imagery in Indian ads - though the writer misses out on several old ones, like some print ads with explicit gay angles, mostly intended to shock, a Chlorets ad which I think is now on corporateclosets.com or that Onida (?) ad with a trans character. And the story does seem to acknowledge that the situation is a sad one which should change as attitudes change in India. On the whole, as a gay man, I'm glad to see such stories which talk about gay issues in India in generally positive terms, however much, as a journalist, I might deplore their essential vacuousness. And DNA carried the story well, giving it large space and a decent layout. Also particular thanks to the writer for not using 'pink rupee', a term that particularly makes me want to throw up! Vikram Brands stray off the straight path... Sumita Vaid Dixit Friday, March 02, 2007 23:53 IST http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1082761 ...Some of them are coming out of the closet. Have you seen an Orangee ad? The Parle candy makes men, women and kids pucker their lips as they suck the liquid. In one ad, two men are shown peeing, and one of them begins to pucker his lips, suggesting a certain kind of behaviour. However, it is the candy that compels people to pucker as the tag line suggests `Choos ke khao'. Then there's a suiting ad, where a dude congratulates his pal at his wedding and runs his fingers suggestively down his suiting-clad back. Tired of being straight?'' asks an ad from a Fructis hair styling product. Snap to two blonde girls looking suggestively at each other, spiked hair in place. Worldwide, a `Mechanics' spot for Snickers bar shows two mechanics eating opposite ends of the bar till their lips meet and they break apart Buckle up for what is viewed as homosexual behaviour, alternative sexuality, etc in communications. It hardly raises an eyebrow overseas, but could stir some excitement here. Then there's another ad for Parle Xhale which runs on the lines of adult mint Samarjeet Shimpi, associate vice-president, Triton Communications, says that the ad for Xhale was conceived from the perspective that the Xhale mint charms people. We see all the members of the girls family rubbing against the boy's toes under the table; it suggests an emotion that goes beyond the bounds of charm. The father who is authoritarian figure, in the end gives the boy a certain look that borders on alternate sexual behaviour. Shimpi clarifies again that the team had not set off on that intention, however, over several drafts and retakes, the storyline evolved. The ad was researched and no one found the ad objectionable. For that matter Parle had no apprehensions running the ad considering the ad touched upon a sensitive subject, though in a light manner. Far from it, the ad got a few laughs. As a matter of fact, this is the best ads can do with alternate sexuality in ads - get laughs. Shimpi says that at the moment, a bold subject such as homosexuality could be dealt with in storylines to the point of humour. Overstep that and one would be in a dangerous territory. No wonder, homosexuality rarely finds expression in mainstream media. The fashion industry seems to be the only community to have accepted it, but otherwise, the subject and its expression remain largely tabooed. The reason for this is essentially closed Indian society. It is still conservative, and to talk about homosexuality needs great courage. Perhaps the next generation may be more open to talking about such matters, says Sagar Mahabaleshwarkar, creative director, Ogilvy Mather. Just as much such subjects are little talked about in public forums, storylines or plots with gay or lesbians couples are hardly seen in Indian ads. You can't force fit an ideology into an ad. That would be false, and most probably result in awful advertising. But, I think if an idea organically needs someone who is gay or lesbian or needs to touch on that universe, then it should, says Zubin Driver, network creative director, TV18 Group. In fact, if the creative people do not use such a situation it is because ads merely reflect what happens in society. New cultural norms are not really created by ads, they merely
