RE: [gentoo-user] emerge sync - portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized. - !!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

[Richard Watson]

On Saturday 30 April 2005 22:18, Richard Watson wrote:
> Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
> 'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'

That would be due to running python-2.2. Although, the portage-2.0.51.19 
ebuild is meant to detect the use of python-2.2 and patch accordingly. 
Perhaps you have both 2.2 and 2.3 installed?

Well I think I got there ... Thanks for all your help. 
Richard

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[gentoo-user] "error exiting GDM" on system halt

[Richard Watson]

Hi - I get "error exiting GDM" when shutting down my computer. I have xdm
running at default level with the display manager set to gdm. Anyone any
ideas. It's not a serious matter but it would be nice to know.  

Regards, Richard


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[gentoo-user] "equery which" gives wrong version?

[Nick Rout]

equery which packagename is meant to give you the full path and name of
the ebuild file for the version of packagename that portage would
install.

however on my system it gives the latest unstable version, at least of
mythtv.

viz:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ eix ^mythtv$
* media-tv/mythtv
 Available versions:  0.16 ~0.17-r1 ~0.18
 Installed:   no
 Homepage:http://www.mythtv.org/
 Description: Homebrew PVR project


Found 1 matches
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ etcat -v mythtv
[ Results for search key   : mythtv ]
[ Candidate applications found : 3 ]

 Only printing found installed programs.

*  media-tv/mythtv :
[   ] 0.16 (0)
[M~ ] 0.17-r1 (0)
[M~ ] 0.18 (0)

Therefore both etcat and eix report that the latest stable is 0.16

However:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ equery which mythtv
/usr/portage/media-tv/mythtv/mythtv-0.18.ebuild


mythtv does not feature in /etc/portage/* and ~x86 is not set anywhere.
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[gentoo-user] No sound: ALSA and software suspend2

[Gabriel M. Beddingfield]

I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 to 2.6.11-suspend2.  I
wanted to get software suspend v2 working.  (I'm using a laptop, and boot /
shutdown is just taking forever.)

I seem to have most everything worked out except this:  When I boot, I can't
get the soundcard to make any noise at all.  When I hibernate, then
restore, the sound card works fine.  (Go figure... something actually gets
*fixed* by a software suspend.)  This is repeatable.

Once, on boot up / log in via xdm to KDE -- I actually heard the log-in
sound.  But it got cut short, and the sound card didn't work until I
hibernated and then resumed.

I can't see much difference in lsmod before and after hibernate.  Same with
lsof... I can't see much difference between before and after hibernate.

I sorted lsmod before and after hibernate... here's the diff:
# diff lsmod0s.txt lsmod1s.txt
2c2
< arc41600  1
---
> arc41600  0
7c7
< ieee80211_crypt_wep 3972  1
---
> ieee80211_crypt_wep 3972  0
10c10
< snd47844  13
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
---
> snd47844  13
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer

lsof is a little more difficult to parse... But I didn't see any ownership
red flags on files named dsp, sound, or snd.

Basics:  Pentium M, 512MB Ram, ALSA w/OSS emulation, Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM
AC'97 soundcard, KDE desktop with aRts, up-to-date gentoo running
2.6.11-suspend2 kernel (sys-kernel/suspend2-sources-2.6.11), hibernate is
sys-power/hibernate-script

Any advice would be appreciated!


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[gentoo-user] Alsa doesn't see Yamaha 724-F sound card

[Walter Dnes]

  Having used Gentoo for a few months, I decided to reformat my
"hot-backup" machine and start from scratch, enable IPV6, etc.  The
kernel banners as "(Linux i686 2.6.11-gentoo-r6)" at the login prompt.
lspci does see my sound card...

:02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 
Audio Controller] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Yamaha Corporation DS-XG PCI Audio CODEC
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at ee80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 1

  I believe I have an identical configuration what I had before, i.e.
all built as modules, but the alsa utils (alsaconf, alsamixer, etc)
simply can't find it.  This chip has always "just worked" since back in
the days of Redhat 7.2, and an identical one is working on my main
machine.  I don't even know where to start looking.  /dev/sound/*
/dev/adsp and /dev/audio are the same as on my main machine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update net.wlan0?

[Scott Jones]

On 4/30/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/29/05, Robert G. Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Mark,>> Sorry long delay -- slighly busy lately!>> Since I was only kinda-halfway watching this thread, and have forgotten
> several details, if you still need this help, could you please briefly> summarize your before setting & results and your new-install setings> &results, then I will (finally!) be able to check the Linux boot for the
> ifo for you.>> Again, I apologize for the long silence; I just -did- -not- have time to> even _look_ at any email that was not urgent to making a living, much> less answer it; just moved it to local storage to keep the inbox
> available...>> Lemme know,> rgh.>Hi Robert,   Thanks for responding. No problem about the delay.   I could still use some help. I have filed a couple of bug reports
around this issue. However none of the ideas or responses I've gottenreally get to the root issue for me. Let me recap:1) I have a desktop machine with a wireless connection. The wirelessconnection is weak (I think...) or maybe I have wireless misconfigured
and it doesn't work well. I'm not sure which. However the bottom lineis that at boot time the machine never connects with the router.2) This machine and a second machine in the house used to run Fedora
Core 2. Under FC2 if either of these machines didn't attach to therouter at boot time then FC2 would continue to try to connect on itsown. It would eventually attach to the network and the user couldstart using the network. The important aspect about this is that it
took no root level access under FC2. It only took time.3) I converted one of these desktop machines to Gentoo. I use Gentooelsewhere in the house and am more or less comfortable with it at ahigh level. We wanted to run MythTV and I was far more confident that
I could get Myth working under Gentoo. Indeed in under a day I wasrecording TV shows. However there have been problems if the machineneeds to go through a reboot. The problems look like:a) Networking doesn't start because the signal is weak
b) MySQL cannot start because it depends on networking being upc) MythTV doesn't start because it depends on MySQL being upd) sshd doesn't start because networking isn't upe) samba doesn't start because networking isn't up
f) strangely nfs does start without networking being upOverall it's a mess because to clean up from all of this as itrequires root access and essentially me, not my wife or son. FC2 wasFAR more friendly.
I think that it should be a standard idea that a portable withwireless connectivity could be booted outside of any access point'sreach and then come into the area of coverage. If a portable did thisyou would expect it to connect to the network without having to become
root to do so. I am guessing that a Gentoo machine wouldn't, or atleast the way mine is configured it wouldn't.I hope it's clear that I think there's a 90% chance that the problemis mine and not the distro's but I don't know much else to do.
Things I've tried:Since the machine had a built in wired NIC I tried starting net.eth0on an address I don't use. net.eth0 starts but MySQL doesn't like itbecause the network it is bound to (the wireless network) isn't up so
this still requires root intervention running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0start by hand.Editing /etc/conf.d/rc and changing to RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING="none".This at least allows things like sshd to get started without wlan0
being online but it doesn't actually get the machine to continue toconnect to the network.I looked at a package that is supposed to check if things are runningand then it will start them if they are down. I couldn't figure out
how to configure it and gave up.Things I've not tried:Any sudo solution. Seems that it would certainly work but it's not pretty.   Thanks sort of the very long winded statement about where things
are. Don't know what else to do right now. The real issue is gettingwlan0 up without root intervention.   Any ideas?Thanks,Mark--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
 mailing listMark,

This is probably not the best solution, but I believe that you could
set sudo up so that other users could start only those services which
you allow them to start.  Perhaps write a simple bash script that
does the "cleanup" and allow sudo to run this certain script.  Or
you could set it so that sudo, again only from your wife and son's
accounts, could start up wifi without root access.  Check out man
sudo it is not that complicated and it can alos be useful for other
stuff.  It would at least allow your wife and son to be able to do
this.

Scott Jones

Re: [gentoo-user] resolution from command line

[Greg Donald]

On 4/30/05, Sami Samhuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The command you are looking for is "fbresolution".
> 
> Which package provides this program? I cannot find it on my system. :(

Google makes me think it's in bootsplash.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1

[Jason Cooper]

darren kirby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> quoth the Vittorio:
> 
> > I modified the ebuild file as suggested in the bug report but when I
> >
> > bash-2.05b# emerge -uDn world
> > Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> >
> > >>> emerge (1 of 14) media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 to /
> > >>> md5 files   ;-) libsdl-1.2.6-r3.ebuild
> >
> > !!! Digest verification Failed:
> > !!!/usr/portage/media-libs/libsdl/libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
> > !!! Reason: Failed on MD5 verification
> >
> > >>> Please ensure you have sync'd properly. Please try 'emerge sync' and
> > >>> optionally examine the file(s) for corruption. A sync will fix most
> > >>> cases.
> >
> > What should I do to skip this check of consistency?
> 
> Have you done an 'emerge sync' recently to see if it is fixed?
> If so, this is most likely not the 'correct' way to do this, but you can edit 
> the Manifest file...
> 
> cd to  /usr/portage/media-libs/libsdl/
> run:
> 
> # md5sum libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
> dc422953436a92690bd6f7b0f0c2d4d5  libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild # this is just sample
> # ls -l  libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 4550 Apr 24 18:35 libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
> 
> Now you have the md5sum and size of your edited ebuild script...
> Now edit 'Manifest'. Find the line with libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild, and change 
> the 
> md5sum and size (the number at the end of the line) to your new values.
> 
> Caveat: like I said, this is probably not the best way to do this, you will 
> probably want to wait for advice from someone more knowlegable than me ;)
> 
> However, this is what I do when I want to change the source code in a 
> distfile 
> but install using emerge...

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Updated_Ebuild

In particular, once the ebuild is modified (or the source code), and put
in place, 'ebuild  digest' will fix the above error.

hth,

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[gentoo-user] libgnome wants to install sound

[Philip Webb]

does anyone know why Libgnome-2.8.1 lists as dependencies 

  media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1
  media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.8
  media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.8
  media-sound/esound-0.2.34

the USE flags for Libgnome were '-debug -doc'.
i emerged it successfully with '--nodeps'.

i have no sound card & no sound software installed in my system.
why does it not obey my instructions not to install sound pkgs ?

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[gentoo-user] Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire success - SA 3250

[Michael Haan]

On 4/30/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/30/05, Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > c) I subscribe to HBO, but HBO doesn't seem to come over 1394.  Is
> > that in accordance with the FCC, or does Comcast owe me that via 1394
> > as well?
> 
> Legally I think it will depend on whether the 1394 client correctly
> follows the 5C Digital Encryption specs. I suspect that the Linux-1394
> stack has none of that. There could actually be a few reasons why it
> might never be able to. One is that the signal path post encryption
> removal is not supposed to be recordable, or at least not in an
> unlimited manner unless HBO marks the material as copyable. I suspect
> they don't and we don't and so nothing happens.
> 
> It might be interesting to see if anything is reported in dmesg or
> elsewhere. I suspect it isn't but I don't have equipment to look at
> that.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 


I don't see anything other than:
ohci1394: fw-host0: IR DMA error - OHCI error code 0x1d

Which I presume is from when I was recording.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire success - SA 3250

[Mark Knecht]

On 4/30/05, Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> c) I subscribe to HBO, but HBO doesn't seem to come over 1394.  Is
> that in accordance with the FCC, or does Comcast owe me that via 1394
> as well?

Legally I think it will depend on whether the 1394 client correctly
follows the 5C Digital Encryption specs. I suspect that the Linux-1394
stack has none of that. There could actually be a few reasons why it
might never be able to. One is that the signal path post encryption
removal is not supposed to be recordable, or at least not in an
unlimited manner unless HBO marks the material as copyable. I suspect
they don't and we don't and so nothing happens.

It might be interesting to see if anything is reported in dmesg or
elsewhere. I suspect it isn't but I don't have equipment to look at
that.

Cheers,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Firewire success - SA 3250

[Michael Haan]

I've been trying to capture HD over firewire from my SA 3250 using
test-mpeg2 for a few days now.  Looks like it's finally working!!  Now
I'd like to take the next step.

My specs:  AMD64, Gentoo(2.6.9-r14), nVidia 6600GT

a) I want to try changing channels with 6200ch.  Unfortunately I
didn't have the source.  I got that, but don't have the Makefile.  Can
someone provide that, an ebuild, a binary, or both?

b) Some channels come in perfect, others come in pixelated.  Is this
an artifact of how I was capturing, or will this also be an issue
inside myth?  Can I do anything to help it go away?

c) I subscribe to HBO, but HBO doesn't seem to come over 1394.  Is
that in accordance with the FCC, or does Comcast owe me that via 1394
as well?

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS data recovery wit liveCD?

[Adi]

Sîmbătă 30 Aprilie 2005 14:19, Stuart Howard a scris:
> I have a machine with some critical data on it that I need to recover
> from a winXP installation that has gone bad. Can someone suggest a
> procedure I could use to acheive this using a Gentoo liveCD?
>
> Machine to recover from :-
> WinXP 1 partition NTFS with a network card [nb. SATA HDD]
>
> Machine's I need to transfer data too:-
> Gentoo
> or
> WinXP
> both connected on a LAN via a router.
>
> If possible things I could use suggestions on are:-
> How to mount the NTFS partition when in liveCD environment?
> how to transfer the data over the network? [it is large ~4Gb]
> any other suggestions?
>
> I am a relativly new user to linux so dont be afraid to patronise me
> with simple instructions ;)
>
> many thanks
> Stuart

Hi, Stuart!
I was in exactly the same situation a few months ago. The Gentoo LiveCD is 
deffinately not the best option for this. Instead I would use Knoppix. Or 
Gnoppix if you fancy. It has samba installed and configured with it so you 
can copy your data to the WinXP machine. 
Boot off the livecd, load the drivers (you might need to load some drivers aka 
linux modules to get linux to recognize your hdd), mount the NTFS hdd(s) 
(assuming it(they) is(are) still working) and copy the files on it(them) 
throught the network. And above all, make it look fancy & difficult ;)

You didn't mention what kind of machine, though. You might get away with just 
taking your hdd(s) and putting them in another machine and copying them on 
the working hdd. This assuming you have a free machine capable of handling 
your bad hdd.

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[gentoo-user] Partition recovery software

[e150]

Hi all:

I've lost one of my ext3 partitions. ¿is there a good partition recovery
software available for gentoo? 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] compaq 2500 no /dev/dsp

[Phil Sexton]

On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 15:07, Antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> Can anyone give me any hints on what to do to get sound going on this
> thing? I have no idea what module to look for but have seen some
> mention of conexant... It ran out of the box when i installed suse...
> Any help much appreciated
> Antoine

We have no idea of what your sound card is.  As root, post the sound
card part of the output of:

cat /proc/pci

and/or

lspci

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1

[darren kirby]

quoth the Vittorio:

> I modified the ebuild file as suggested in the bug report but when I
>
> bash-2.05b# emerge -uDn world
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>
> >>> emerge (1 of 14) media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 to /
> >>> md5 files   ;-) libsdl-1.2.6-r3.ebuild
>
> !!! Digest verification Failed:
> !!!/usr/portage/media-libs/libsdl/libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
> !!! Reason: Failed on MD5 verification
>
> >>> Please ensure you have sync'd properly. Please try 'emerge sync' and
> >>> optionally examine the file(s) for corruption. A sync will fix most
> >>> cases.
>
> What should I do to skip this check of consistency?
>
> Vittorio

Have you done an 'emerge sync' recently to see if it is fixed?
If so, this is most likely not the 'correct' way to do this, but you can edit 
the Manifest file...

cd to  /usr/portage/media-libs/libsdl/
run:

# md5sum libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
dc422953436a92690bd6f7b0f0c2d4d5  libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild # this is just sample
# ls -l  libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 4550 Apr 24 18:35 libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild

Now you have the md5sum and size of your edited ebuild script...
Now edit 'Manifest'. Find the line with libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild, and change the 
md5sum and size (the number at the end of the line) to your new values.

Caveat: like I said, this is probably not the best way to do this, you will 
probably want to wait for advice from someone more knowlegable than me ;)

However, this is what I do when I want to change the source code in a distfile 
but install using emerge...

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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the deal with use flags in (brackets)?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:29:36 + Calvin Spealman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Are the things that are automatically enabled for compilation
| different than  the things the USE flags enable?
| If these things are automatic, then why have the flags at all?

The flags are relevant for x86. They are not relevant for amd64.

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[gentoo-user] cx88xx error

[Al Bayrouni]

Hello all,
I compiled the kernel-2.6.11-r6 with videoforlinux support and conexant
2388xx support.
When I modprobe cx88xx I have this error:
FATAL: Error inserting cx88xx
(/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88xx.ko):
Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg).
in dmesg I have this errorsabout conexant:
cx88xx: Unknown symbol i2c_bit_add_bus
cx88xx: Unknown symbol i2c_master_recv
cx88xx: Unknown symbol i2c_bit_del_bus
cx88xx: Unknown symbol i2c_clients_command
cx88xx: Unknown symbol i2c_master_send
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_reset
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_call_i2c_clients
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeup
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_risc_stopper
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_print_irqbits
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_set_scale
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_shutdown
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_vdev_init
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_core_put
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_audio_thread
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_core_get
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_get_stereo
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_irq
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_set_tvnorm
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_vid_irqs
cx8800: Unknown symbol cx88_risc_buffer
...
...
Any idea about this messages.
Thank you
Bayrouni
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolution from command line

[Sami Samhuri]

* On Sat Apr-30-2005 at 12:03:37 PM -0700, Richard Fish said:
[...]
> The command you are looking for is "fbresolution".

Which package provides this program? I cannot find it on my system. :(

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % fbresolution
zsh: command not found: fbresolution
-127- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % which fbresolution
fbresolution not found
-1- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % locate fbresolution
-1- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % esearch fbresolution
[ Results for search key : fbresolution ]
[ Applications found : 0 ]

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1

[Vittorio]

Alle 17:23, venerdì 29 aprile 2005, darren kirby ha scritto:
> quoth the Vittorio:
> > Alle 22:02, giovedì 28 aprile 2005, darren kirby ha scritto:
> > > quoth the Vittorio:
> > > 
> > >
> > > > What should I do?
> > > >
> > > > Vittorio
> > >
> > > Turn off distcc and try again. I have found that some apps refuse to
> > > compile when using distcc. I think this solved the same problem for me
> > > last night, although it may have been one of the other sdl* packages.
> > >
> > > -d
> >
> > I do not have distcc installed.
> > What can I do then?
> > Vittorio
>
> Hello,
>
> Sorry I took a guess you were using distcc. However, after a search it
> appears this issue is a known bug. There is a workaround that requires you
> to edit the ebuild file. See here:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89628
>
> hth,
> d
I modified the ebuild file as suggested in the bug report but when I

bash-2.05b# emerge -uDn world
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 14) media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 to /
>>> md5 files   ;-) libsdl-1.2.6-r3.ebuild

!!! Digest verification Failed:
!!!/usr/portage/media-libs/libsdl/libsdl-1.2.8-r1.ebuild
!!! Reason: Failed on MD5 verification

>>> Please ensure you have sync'd properly. Please try 'emerge sync' and
>>> optionally examine the file(s) for corruption. A sync will fix most cases.

What should I do to skip this check of consistency?

Vittorio

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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the deal with use flags in (brackets)?

[Calvin Spealman]

I hate to drag this out, but I'm still missing something and I hate to not understand something.

Are the things that are automatically enabled for compilation different than the things the USE flags enable?
If these things are automatic, then why have the flags at all?On 4/30/05, Keith Gable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:What they're saying is that SSE/SSE2/MMX and so on are automatically
applied without the flags. The flags are only there because not every
x86 chip supports SSE, SSE2, and so on. On AMD64, the flags are ignored
and it's compiled with any of those processor optimizations that it
knowingly supports.

If something came out that was AMD64 Generation 2 specific (and wasn't
supported by regular AMD64), it'd have a USE flag that only works on
AMD64. And you wouldn't want to turn that flag on on a normal AMD64,
since it doesn't support it.

Right now, if you compile mplayer, you'll get MMX/SSE/SSE2/3DNOW and all that crap. Just there are no special USE flags for it.On 4/30/05, 
Kiawud <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/29/05, Ciaran McCreesh <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:54:57 + Calvin Spealman> <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> | i dont understand whats going on here. I thought those flags enabled
> | the use  of extended sets of the x86 instruction set, and amd64 chips> | are in the x86  family, aren't they? and they support those> | extensions, I'm sure, so what  then do those flags do that the amd64
> | can't make use of the flags?>I thought that if you 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' it'll show you the flagsthat are compatible with your cpu.  Is that not accurate for the amd64chip?-Hani

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[gentoo-user] compaq 2500 no /dev/dsp

[Antoine]

Hi,
Can anyone give me any hints on what to do to get sound going on this
thing? I have no idea what module to look for but have seen some
mention of conexant... It ran out of the box when i installed suse...
Any help much appreciated
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolution from command line

[Richard Fish]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 12:07:57PM +0300, Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>  
>
>>What i'm looking for is something that can tell me that the 
>>'video=vesafb:ypan,[EMAIL PROTECTED]' argument i pass to grub's 'kernel' 
>>command, is actually applied (from what i see, it ain't, i just wanna 
>>make sure).
>>
>>
>
>Oh, I completely misunderstood!
>
>You want to just check /proc/cmdline.
>
>  
>

Well, that will tell you what you _passed_ to the kernel, but not
necessarily what it is running at.  The command you are looking for is
"fbresolution".

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[gentoo-user] software prototype

[José Moreira]

Hello, i've been thinking about a new software and i would like the
opinion from the community about it's viability. It's not directly
related to Gentoo but OSS in general. The name i believe would describe
it the best is 'helpforge' the sameway it exists 'howtoforge' and
'sourceforge'. The main goal is to relate the sameway to 'contributing'
as sourceforge to deploy software. It would abstract technologies
(cvs,svn,whatever) from the common user enabling him to have an access
to a portal whre he could browse 'task requests' in a categorized way. 

Perhaps the most elucidating example would be a translation. I'm coding
software 'X' and would like to translate the manuals to some foreign
language, i could (assuming my project is registered in the portal)
submit a 'task request'. Then, Joe (an happy guy who doesnt now anything
about cvs nor my project or even what is OSS) who has access to the site
and was perhaps an interpreter would read the task information and think
'Hey i can do this', download the files, translate them and re-submit
them. Then, another guy could 'verify' the task (check for errors) and
evaluate the 'contributor performance' and rate him. Then task would
then be complete and the developer notified.

I'm considering it could have the profiles :
- developers (the project owners)
- contributers (the one who contribute)
- reviewers (those who review the work done)

The reviewing component seems interesting as it could minimize the
chance for errors. Also the 'contributor rating' could enable better
rated contributors to have access to harder and more important tasks.

The portal would categorize the tasks like translations, database
designs, UI designs, etc etc, the more the better. Also of could it
would contain information on how to access code repository's, project
information and such. Integration with sourceforge would minimize
duplicate project information.

As i say, these are mere guidelines, what do you think?


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[gentoo-user] gnome woes

[Adi]

Hi.
Installing gnome reminds me of trying to get my ati video card to work right:
1) I installed gnome and got it working, but when I tried to go back into KDE 
I noticed it really messed up the KDE menu. Not only did it add the gnome 
entries (good), it also moved some entries around (bad) and removed some 
entries (nasty). Also, for some reason, right-clicking on the K-menu and 
editing the menu does not work anymore (though launching kmenuedit works).
Anyone knows how I can get my old menu back? I assume gnome must be creating 
some files somewhere and kde is using that instead of its default menu.
2) Does Totem have "double buffering" for internet play? I tried to listen to 
online radio but it has little "pops" in the sound. I noticed amarok buffers 
the stream twice (same for winamp), so I guess this must be the difference. I 
tried setting audio buffers to 600 (from the default 250) but that didn't do 
much. Also STFW-ing for "double buffer totem" just got me a whole lot of 
video results, but nothing for audio.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome config

[Adi]

Vineri 29 Aprilie 2005 02:28, Spider a scris:
> On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 02:25 +0300, Adi wrote:
> > Hi.
> > Well I decided to try the new gnome 2.10, after previous dissapointments
> > and uninstallations so I painfully unmasked and unkeyworded (?) each
> > dependancy by hand just to find out when starting gnome that it somehow
> > kept my old settings. I tried rming ~/.gnome* ~/.gtk* ~/.gconf*, but to
> > no avail. They were still there. And looking in /etc/ and /usr/share/
> > didn't yeld anything. Anyone got any thoughts on how I should go about
> > removing my old settings to start from scratch (except creating a new
> > user)?
>
> make sure you are logged out of gnome.
> Kill all stray gconf processes (gconftool-2 --shutdown )
> remove ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf*
>
>
> And you should be set. The thing is that the gconf process stores its
> state in RAM, and writes it to disk when it exits.
>
>
> //Spider

Sorry for the delay ... it worked. Thank you!
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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the deal with use flags in (brackets)?

[Keith Gable]

What they're saying is that SSE/SSE2/MMX and so on are automatically
applied without the flags. The flags are only there because not every
x86 chip supports SSE, SSE2, and so on. On AMD64, the flags are ignored
and it's compiled with any of those processor optimizations that it
knowingly supports.

If something came out that was AMD64 Generation 2 specific (and wasn't
supported by regular AMD64), it'd have a USE flag that only works on
AMD64. And you wouldn't want to turn that flag on on a normal AMD64,
since it doesn't support it.

Right now, if you compile mplayer, you'll get MMX/SSE/SSE2/3DNOW and all that crap. Just there are no special USE flags for it.On 4/30/05, Kiawud <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 4/29/05, Ciaran McCreesh <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:54:57 + Calvin Spealman> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> | i dont understand whats going on here. I thought those flags enabled
> | the use  of extended sets of the x86 instruction set, and amd64 chips> | are in the x86  family, aren't they? and they support those> | extensions, I'm sure, so what  then do those flags do that the amd64
> | can't make use of the flags?>I thought that if you 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' it'll show you the flagsthat are compatible with your cpu.  Is that not accurate for the amd64chip?-Hani
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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the deal with use flags in (brackets)?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:27:15 -0600 Kiawud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I thought that if you 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' it'll show you the flags
| that are compatible with your cpu.  Is that not accurate for the amd64
| chip?

Uh huh, but those flags don't correspond to the USE flags.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage still seeing non-existant version 5's of packages

[Calvin Spealman]

I have one, but I only use it on specific occasions, when I want to
install something that isn't in portage already. The enviroment
variable is never set except explicitly per emerge when I need it.On 4/29/05, Brett I. Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Do you have a portage overlay?>> From: Calvin Spealman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Date: 2005/04/29 Fri PM 02:45:49 EDT> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> Subject: [gentoo-user] Portage still seeing non-existant version 5's of packages
>> For a few packages, currently k3b and koffice, portage is seeing the newest> version as being 5. These versions don't exist, and portage chokes very> badly on installing or updating the packages. Does anyone know where it
> might be getting these faulty version numbers, or where I need to look to> fix it. I've cleared some caches as suggested previously, synced, installed> a binary of portage executables, and ran an emerge --regen, but with no
> noticable results. If anyone has any suggestions on fixing this error,> please let me know, and thanks for your help, in advance.>>--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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[gentoo-user] Is there an app/lib can do voice comparation?

[Qiangning Hong]

Is there an existing software (perhaps an education software) can do
the following function?

The student reads aloud a piece of text to the microphone.  The
software records the voice and compare it to the wave file
pre-recorded by the teacher, and gives out a score to indicate the
similarity between them.

This function will help students to pronounce properly when learning
foreign languages.

If there is no such a usable application exists, but a library can do
the voice compare algorithm, I would like to develop an app upon it.

For those who would suggest sphinx: the voice recognition technology
is not acceptable here because we are not teaching English.

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Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update net.wlan0?

[Mark Knecht]

On 4/29/05, Robert G. Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> Sorry long delay -- slighly busy lately!
> 
> Since I was only kinda-halfway watching this thread, and have forgotten
> several details, if you still need this help, could you please briefly
> summarize your before setting & results and your new-install setings
> &results, then I will (finally!) be able to check the Linux boot for the
> ifo for you.
> 
> Again, I apologize for the long silence; I just -did- -not- have time to
> even _look_ at any email that was not urgent to making a living, much
> less answer it; just moved it to local storage to keep the inbox
> available...
> 
> Lemme know,
> rgh.
> 

Hi Robert,
   Thanks for responding. No problem about the delay. 

   I could still use some help. I have filed a couple of bug reports
around this issue. However none of the ideas or responses I've gotten
really get to the root issue for me. Let me recap:

1) I have a desktop machine with a wireless connection. The wireless
connection is weak (I think...) or maybe I have wireless misconfigured
and it doesn't work well. I'm not sure which. However the bottom line
is that at boot time the machine never connects with the router.

2) This machine and a second machine in the house used to run Fedora
Core 2. Under FC2 if either of these machines didn't attach to the
router at boot time then FC2 would continue to try to connect on its
own. It would eventually attach to the network and the user could
start using the network. The important aspect about this is that it
took no root level access under FC2. It only took time.

3) I converted one of these desktop machines to Gentoo. I use Gentoo
elsewhere in the house and am more or less comfortable with it at a
high level. We wanted to run MythTV and I was far more confident that
I could get Myth working under Gentoo. Indeed in under a day I was
recording TV shows. However there have been problems if the machine
needs to go through a reboot. The problems look like:

a) Networking doesn't start because the signal is weak
b) MySQL cannot start because it depends on networking being up
c) MythTV doesn't start because it depends on MySQL being up
d) sshd doesn't start because networking isn't up
e) samba doesn't start because networking isn't up
f) strangely nfs does start without networking being up

Overall it's a mess because to clean up from all of this as it
requires root access and essentially me, not my wife or son. FC2 was
FAR more friendly.

I think that it should be a standard idea that a portable with
wireless connectivity could be booted outside of any access point's
reach and then come into the area of coverage. If a portable did this
you would expect it to connect to the network without having to become
root to do so. I am guessing that a Gentoo machine wouldn't, or at
least the way mine is configured it wouldn't.

I hope it's clear that I think there's a 90% chance that the problem
is mine and not the distro's but I don't know much else to do.

Things I've tried:

Since the machine had a built in wired NIC I tried starting net.eth0
on an address I don't use. net.eth0 starts but MySQL doesn't like it
because the network it is bound to (the wireless network) isn't up so
this still requires root intervention running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0
start by hand.

Editing /etc/conf.d/rc and changing to RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING="none".
This at least allows things like sshd to get started without wlan0
being online but it doesn't actually get the machine to continue to
connect to the network.

I looked at a package that is supposed to check if things are running
and then it will start them if they are down. I couldn't figure out
how to configure it and gave up.

Things I've not tried:

Any sudo solution. Seems that it would certainly work but it's not pretty.

   Thanks sort of the very long winded statement about where things
are. Don't know what else to do right now. The real issue is getting
wlan0 up without root intervention.

   Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.10 & bluetooth

[Jonathan Wright]

regatta wrote:
Hi
I have just installed Gnome 2.10 (in Gentoo box) and before that I was
using Gnome 2.8 and I was able to right click in any file and send it
via bluetooth , but now I don't see the item "send via bluetooth"
anymore
is this a problem in my installation or it's not exist any more in Gnome 2.10 ?
The gnome-bluetooth subsystem used (i think) bobono, which was 
depreciated and as of 2.10 removed from Gnome. Therefore it doesn't 
integrate any more.

At the moment there are plans to re-implement it using the newer api, 
but the ppl that maintain it are currently busy and can't do it.

In the mean time I've just created an icon on the desktop to launch 
gnome-obex-send. The you can just drag-n-drop the file onto the icon and 
it'll work in pretty much the same way.

As for the other questions - no idea! :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the deal with use flags in (brackets)?

[Kiawud]

On 4/29/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:54:57 + Calvin Spealman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | i dont understand whats going on here. I thought those flags enabled
> | the use  of extended sets of the x86 instruction set, and amd64 chips
> | are in the x86  family, aren't they? and they support those
> | extensions, I'm sure, so what  then do those flags do that the amd64
> | can't make use of the flags?
> 

I thought that if you 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' it'll show you the flags
that are compatible with your cpu.  Is that not accurate for the amd64
chip?

-Hani

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell 8100 Buttons???

[Kiawud]

On 4/30/05, timothy johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been running Gentoo on a Dell 8100 for a while now. I have my
> volume buttons working, but a couple of updates ago they quit working,
> wondering if anyone might know about how to fix this? and also one of
> two updates ago I lost control of my volume from Gnome. yet gkrellm2
> and xmms both still are able to control the volume???
> 
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> 
> 
Not sure if this will help, but I use 'xbindkeys' to control my
volume/xmms via keyboard hotkeys.

Basically, I installed 'xbindkeys' then use 'xbindkeys -k' to find out
the control codes for the hotkeys.  Then I just bind them to something
like 'amixer set PCM +3' (to increase volume).

-Hani

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Re: [gentoo-user] Replacements

[slarti]

On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 04:46:17PM +0200, Patrick Marquetecken <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for replacements for:
> mailx/mail; for a machine without a MTA and that can send mail with
> attachments via a smpt server on the network.

Use mailx/mail/nail with msmtp. It will either create symlinks to
sendmail or it can be used through mailwrapper. Otherwise, just use
mutt.

> gaim; for a machine without gnome/kde only fluxbox.

Centericq? The options are very limited here, I'm afraid.

Regards,
Tom

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[gentoo-user] Replacements

[Patrick Marquetecken]

Hi,

I'm looking for replacements for:
mailx/mail; for a machine without a MTA and that can send mail with
attachments via a smpt server on the network.
gaim; for a machine without gnome/kde only fluxbox.

TIA
Patrick
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Re: [gentoo-user] The LiveCD as the workstation

[Grant]

> > >   Keyboard loggers on
> > > > public computers freak me out, and lugging my laptop around and hoping
> > > > Internet cafes will let me plug in doesn't sound too great.  I may end
> > > > up doing that though.  No big deal.
> > >
> > > If keyboard loggers are your only problem, google for usage of ssh+otp
> > > (one-time passwords).
> > >
> > > Peter
> >
> > But I've got to think about bank passwords and all that.
> 
> a boot cd is not going to help you if a cafe has a hardware key logger
> 
> and how many internet cafes let you reboot their machines with your own
> cd?
> 
> or do they? I have never tried!

Hardware key loggers?  Diabolical.  Sounds like I need to bring my laptop.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync - portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized. - !!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

[Jason Stubbs]

On Saturday 30 April 2005 22:18, Richard Watson wrote:
> Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
> 'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'

That would be due to running python-2.2. Although, the portage-2.0.51.19 
ebuild is meant to detect the use of python-2.2 and patch accordingly. 
Perhaps you have both 2.2 and 2.3 installed?

Regards,
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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge sync - portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized. - !!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

[Richard Watson]

In either case, relink /etc/make.profile 
to /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-2004.2. Then ignore the deprecation 
notice and above slotmove error until you've upgraded portage to 2.0.51.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs

Hi Jason - thanks. I did what you suggested and it sort of fixed the
problem. However when I now run (after updating portage) emerge -s portage I
get the following output. I'm interested in the message

Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'

Plus why does it keep streaming this output?

Thanks, Richard

 Start Output =
# emerge -s portage
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2002
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'


Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2002
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'

...
Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2003
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'
..
Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2003
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'

Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2003
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'






..
Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2003
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'
.
Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2004
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'
.
Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2004
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'


Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has no attribute
'HIGHEST_PROTOCOL'
 
 
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2004
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'


.
Failed to write to mtimedb: 'module' object has

[gentoo-user] NTFS data recovery wit liveCD?

[Stuart Howard]

I have a machine with some critical data on it that I need to recover
from a winXP installation that has gone bad. Can someone suggest a
procedure I could use to acheive this using a Gentoo liveCD?

Machine to recover from :-
WinXP 1 partition NTFS with a network card [nb. SATA HDD]

Machine's I need to transfer data too:-
Gentoo 
or 
WinXP
both connected on a LAN via a router.

If possible things I could use suggestions on are:-
How to mount the NTFS partition when in liveCD environment?
how to transfer the data over the network? [it is large ~4Gb]
any other suggestions?

I am a relativly new user to linux so dont be afraid to patronise me
with simple instructions ;)

many thanks 
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Re: [gentoo-user] fetchmail+procmail+mutt and gentoo maillists

[slarti]

It seems as though one extremely large mail is causing you to run into
bug 85339.

Solution: use getmail instead :)

Regards,
Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolution from command line

[slarti]

On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 12:07:57PM +0300, Panos Laganakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> What i'm looking for is something that can tell me that the 
> 'video=vesafb:ypan,[EMAIL PROTECTED]' argument i pass to grub's 'kernel' 
> command, is actually applied (from what i see, it ain't, i just wanna 
> make sure).

Oh, I completely misunderstood!

You want to just check /proc/cmdline.

Tom

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[gentoo-user] fetchmail+procmail+mutt and gentoo maillists

[Pavel]

Hello,

I`ve subscribed to gentoo mailists , but can only read through Gmail Web Interface .
I followed Offical Gentoo Mail guide , but no luck 

Here is my .fetchmailrc 

set logfile /var/log/fetchmail
poll pop.gmail.com  proto pop3 port 995 
user xxx with pass xxx to pavel here
ssl

When I try to fetch mail I get this error 
 
[ ~ ] pavel $ fetchmail -akv -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T" 
fetchmail: 6.2.5 querying pop.gmail.com (protocol POP3) : poll started
fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Server CA
fetchmail: Server CommonName: pop.gmail.com
fetchmail: pop.gmail.com key fingerprint: F2:BE:86:E4:E2:51:76:AA:B6:00:91:7B:97:A4:E6:F3
fetchmail: Warning: server certificate verification: unable to get local issuer certificate
fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Server CA
fetchmail: Server CommonName: pop.gmail.com
fetchmail: Warning: server certificate verification: certificate not trusted
fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Server CA
fetchmail: Server CommonName: pop.gmail.com
fetchmail: Warning: server certificate verification: unable to verify the first certificate
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Gpop ready.
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Capability list follows
fetchmail: POP3< USER
fetchmail: POP3< RESP-CODES
fetchmail: POP3< EXPIRE 0
fetchmail: POP3< LOGIN-DELAY 300
fetchmail: POP3< X-GOOGLE-VERHOEVEN
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> USER plhvnx
fetchmail: POP3< +OK send PASS
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Welcome.
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 766 11880767
fetchmail: 766 messages for plhvnx at pop.gmail.com (11880767 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 1913
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 of 766 (1913 octets)
#.**fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 2
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2 1901
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 2
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 of 766 (1901 octets)
#.**fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 3
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 3 1923
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 3
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3 of 766 (1923 octets)
#.**fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 4
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 4 1902
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 4
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:4 of 766 (1902 octets)
#.**fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 5
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 5 740
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 5
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5 of 766 (740 octets)
#**fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 6
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 6 850
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 6
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:6 of 766 (850 octets)
#fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 7
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 7 690
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 7
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:7 of 766 (690 octets)
#fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 8
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 8 875
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 8
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8 of 766 (875 octets)
#**fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 9
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 9 429
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 9
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9 of 766 (429 octets)
#*fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 10
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 10 3699
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 10
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10 of 766 (3699 octets)
#.**.***fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 11
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 11 3818
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 11
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:11 of 766 (3818 octets)
#.**.***fetchmail:  not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 12
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 12 6053451
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 12
fetchmail: POP3< +OK message follows
fetchmail: reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:12 of 766 (6053451 octets)
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolution from command line

[Panos Laganakos]

Tom Martin wrote:
Try 'resize' with no arguments.
Hope that helps,
Tom
Martin,
i tried 'resize' with no arguments, but what i get is the number of 
columns and rows.

What i'm looking for is something that can tell me that the 
'video=vesafb:ypan,[EMAIL PROTECTED]' argument i pass to grub's 'kernel' 
command, is actually applied (from what i see, it ain't, i just wanna 
make sure).
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[gentoo-user] i8k

[timothy johnson]

when I run /etc/init.d/i8k start this is what I get

* The i8k driver is not installed

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync - portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized. - !!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

[Jason Stubbs]

On Saturday 30 April 2005 17:40, Richard Watson wrote:
> I just tried to emerge sync an install I did off a stage 3 LiveCD I bought
> during 2004. I'm getting some strange results. Can anyone tell me what the
> output below is telling me.  I tried running fixpackages but that did not
> fix it. Now when I try and emerge any package portage keeps trying to sync
> (again I think) and fails the package installation. The output I'm confused
> about is:
>
> portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized.

This would probably indicate portage-2.0.50.

> !!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

Did you get a deprecation notice and change the /etc/make.profile symlink? Is 
the CD anything other than 2004.2? In either case, relink /etc/make.profile 
to /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-2004.2. Then ignore the deprecation 
notice and above slotmove error until you've upgraded portage to 2.0.51.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs


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Re: [gentoo-user] displaying only installed packages

[Al Bayrouni]

thank you very much for your answers
Bayrouni.
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[gentoo-user] emerge sync - portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized. - !!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

[Richard Watson]

I just tried to emerge sync an install I did off a stage 3 LiveCD I bought
during 2004. I'm getting some strange results. Can anyone tell me what the
output below is telling me.  I tried running fixpackages but that did not
fix it. Now when I try and emerge any package portage keeps trying to sync
(again I think) and fails the package installation. The output I'm confused
about is:

portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized.
!!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.

I'm a bit stuck at the moment so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, Richard

=== Output Below ===
Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/4Q-2004
(Could take a couple minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
.portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized.
...portage: Update type "slotmove" not
recognized.
portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized.


..*
 
Done.
 ** Skipping packages. Run 'fixpackages' or set it in FEATURES to fix the
tbz2's in the packages directory. Note: This can take a very long time.
portage: Update type "slotmove" not recognized.
!!! No profile directory; system mode unavailable.


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Re: [gentoo-user] displaying only installed packages

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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Since qpkg is somewhat deprecated and might disappear in the future I'd
recommend to use equery (emerge gentoolkit if you don't have that
command, gpkg is also (still) part of this package).
Usage: equery l 
In your case this would be something like: equery l kde
For more specific queries you can adjust the regular expression to match
your search criterias.
Regards,
Karsten
Al Bayrouni wrote:
| HELLO all,
|
| How can I output only packages that are installed on my system.
| and not those that aren't.
|
| example: emerge search kde output really all packages containing the
| word kde. It is very hard to read all this just to verify that one or 2
| kde packs are or not installed.
|
| Thank you
| Bayrouni
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gdm power management

[Sami Samhuri]

* On Sat Apr-30-2005 at 02:35:10 AM +, James said:
> Mark Knecht  gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> > where do you make a config setting change to get this to work?
[...]
>
> I've got some older Viewsonic E790 19" CRT based monitors. Here's the
> relevant section of an xorg file that you could use as a starting point...
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier   "Monitor0"
> VendorName   "VSC"
> ModelName"E790-3"
> HorizSync30.0 - 95.0
> VertRefresh  50.0 - 200.0
> Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection

Also check out the following options (found in 'man xorg.conf'):

Option  "BlankTime" "15"
Option  "StandbyTime"   "30"
Option  "SuspendTime"   "60"
Option  "OffTime"  "600"

Times are in minutes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] unsubscribe

[Nick Rout]

I suggest that you RTFM

firstly the unsub instructions are in the headers of every list message.

secondly if you cannot do that, go to http://www.gentoo.org, find the
"Mailing Lists" page and follow the easy to read instructions!

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On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 09:33 +0200, Christof Binder wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cups + Samba weird message

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 16:23 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 4/29/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 15:35 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:04:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Actually, it means that samba depends on cups, and cups depends on
> > > > > samba. Hence the circle.
> > > >
> > > > Then why does it present itself when I restart networking? Seems a
> > > > strange time for it to tell me that. Does running a single init script
> > > > cause all the init scripts to announce stuff like this?
> > >
> > > Both samba and cups depend on networking.
> > 
> > and to enlarge on that when you restart networking, you restart any
> > services that depend on networking.
> 
> Yes, that's what I thought must be happening. However I have multiple
> interefaces - lo, eth, and wlan0. I restart wlan0 and it seems that I
> get these messages. If I was restarting all networking I could
> understand that but I would have thought that if I restart only a
> single interface it wouldn't require a complete restart of everything
> that depends on networking.
> 
> This may seem like a small issue. I'm not sure it is. (What do I
> know...I'm not that smart.) Since the machine is running MythTV and
> Myth requires mythbackend and mythbackend requires mysql and mysql is
> bound to eth0 when I restart wlan0 it seems a stretch to say that all
> of this stuff should have to go through a restart. I'm somewhat
> concerned that it's going to interfere with Myth doing what I want it
> to do.
> 
> No eveidence yet that it does. It's just a concern.

instead of restarting wlan0, try using pause instead.

Its in TFM here:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=4

"If you want to stop a service, but not the services that depend on it,
you can use the pause argument:"



like

/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 pause start (I think you can give two commands on
one line, if it doesn't work like that use:

/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 pause
/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
)





> 
> thanks for the info.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (OT) WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:24:27 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:

> Neil, are you making them up yourself, or do you have a good source?

I've spent the last ten years studiously stealing them :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:56:36 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:

> Yah, glsa's makes a pretty good reason -- what I was referring to was 
> the part about the portage stuff getting whanged; wasn't *even* 
> referring to compile-time!

Fair point. But if no one runs the bleeding edge stuff, it will never be
sufficiently tested for general use.


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[gentoo-user] Dell 8100 Buttons???

[timothy johnson]

I have been running Gentoo on a Dell 8100 for a while now. I have my
volume buttons working, but a couple of updates ago they quit working,
wondering if anyone might know about how to fix this? and also one of
two updates ago I lost control of my volume from Gnome. yet gkrellm2
and xmms both still are able to control the volume???

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Re: [gentoo-user] The LiveCD as the workstation

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 17:04 -0700, Grant wrote:
> >   Keyboard loggers on
> > > public computers freak me out, and lugging my laptop around and hoping
> > > Internet cafes will let me plug in doesn't sound too great.  I may end
> > > up doing that though.  No big deal.
> > 
> > If keyboard loggers are your only problem, google for usage of ssh+otp
> > (one-time passwords).
> > 
> > Peter
> 
> But I've got to think about bank passwords and all that.

a boot cd is not going to help you if a cafe has a hardware key logger

and how many internet cafes let you reboot their machines with your own
cd?

or do they? I have never tried!


> 
> - Grant
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] displaying only installed packages

[Nick Rout]

qpkg -I

On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 08:28 +0200, Al Bayrouni wrote:
> HELLO all,
> 
> How can I output only packages that are installed on my system.
> and not those that aren't.
> 
> example: emerge search kde output really all packages containing the 
> word kde. It is very hard to read all this just to verify that one or 2 
> kde packs are or not installed.
> 
> Thank you
> Bayrouni
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[gentoo-user] unsubscribe

[Christof Binder]

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[gentoo-user] Re: (OT) WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20

[Remy Blank]

Robert G. Hays wrote:
> (Shall I tell you just _how_ many of your sig/tags I have captured? 
> Keep 'em coming! :D ) (I'm sharing them with others (with attribution),
> and they are geting quite a kick out of them!)

I agree. I can't help noticing Neil's sigs are much funnier than any
other I have seen so far (actually, they're pretty much the *only*
really funny ones...).

Neil, are you making them up yourself, or do you have a good source?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc

[Pavel]

NO , I meant  that  POSIX and C locales must be in /etc/locales.build not in /etc/env.d/02locale ;) 
 You should add your_locale to /etc/env.d/02locale 
Then you will have something similar to this 



[ ~ ] pavel $ locale 
LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="ru_RU.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=


On 4/30/05, Thomas Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* On Apr 29 23:41, Pavel (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:> Why you have POSIX locale ?> Did you edit /etc/env.d/02locale ?> You should add>
> LC_ALL=""> LANG=your locale.UTF-8Honestly I've never understood locales terribly well, but POSIX must bethe default because the output of my `locale` is the same as his and Ihaven't fiddled with anything.  So, that explains that.  My `locale -a`
lists C, POSIX, en_US, and en_US.utf8, but everything I use worksperfectly now and I have no need of special characters, so I haven't"fixed" anything.Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20

[Robert G. Hays]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:20:37 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
'll put it on the laptop when OOo finally finishes compiling, although
r20 will probably be put by then... 
 

I'll say it again, *this* is why I only update when there is a *good* 
reason to.
   

Are two GLSAs on the most recent version of openoffice-bin for that
architecture enough reason to update?
The time taken for the recompile isn't normally an issue, you can leave
it running in the background. But upgrading portage while another emerge
is running didn't strike me as a particularly good idea.
Yah, glsa's makes a pretty good reason -- what I was referring to was 
the part about the portage stuff getting whanged; wasn't *even* 
referring to compile-time!

And, having finally gotten my Gentoo 2.6.11-r4 (PickledOnion), Win4Lin, 
ATI-AIW-9600-dually all up (still gotta emerge a buncha things, though, 
including Netscape 7.1 so as to share Win & Lin mail, bookmarks, c)  
--  anyway!, having it up now, I *D__n* sure agree with you about 
diddling Portage whilst doing some other portage-task!

(Shall I tell you just _how_ many of your sig/tags I have captured?  
Keep 'em coming! :D ) 
(I'm sharing them with others (with attribution), and they are geting 
quite a kick out of them!)

Best,
rgh.
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