Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-08 Thread Mats Lidell

Ow Mun Heng wrote:


Funny. I have 2.4.0 for gnome-common.


So from my limited understanding of emerge I guess I have some work 
getting the  portage tree in sync. (Maybe it is time for an emerge 
--update --deep --newuse world !? 



I don't think a newuse is needed. What about gconf? is it 2.10?


gconf was 2.10 but many gnome packages was not 2.10 like gnome-panel. 
Upgrading gnome-panel fixed the problem with the clock applet so I did 
the whole update-deep-newuse-thing which seems to have been a good thing 
anyway.


I had the problem with the main-menu-icon which was in the bug-list and 
was solved by updating the icon-cache.


I still have the problem with the start-here icon on the desktop which 
when clicked results in the pop up Couldn't display start-here:///. 
But that is something I can live with at the moment anyway.


Before the upgrade I was in the process of removing evolution. Could it 
be that I had some dependencies left from the unmerged package that 
caused emerge to have problems when upgrading? Evolution came back in 
anyway as a result of the update---thing.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Port 512/Comsat and Sendmail or Fetchmail hangs

2005-06-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 23:12 -0400, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  The process would hang at at the input of each mail for a short (but
  very noticable) period while it tries to connect to port
  512/comsat. /etc/services states that this port is for new-mail
  notification (biff).
 
  I don't have biff enabled and thus I wonder what/why is it that it's
  trying to contact it. I'm not even sure if it's a fetchmail issue or
  it's a sendmail issue.

 The first link might (just maybe) have some useful info:
 http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=fetchmail+port+512+comsatie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8

I would try googling but since I don't have I-Net access at work.. it's
kinda hard. 

But thanks. I'll take a look at it when I'm home. If anyone knows it
off-hand right now, please do tell.

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[gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread THUFIR HAWAT
I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC
in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0,
so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the
moment).

the local store is willing to install a SMC one for a good price.  my
only concern is the brand.  ethernet is very well understood and I
just need plain-vanilla, but I don't want to have to fiddle with
anything, configuring hardware or whatever, if the hardware doesn't
run well under linux.

does the brand matter, or will anything that says ethernet fit the
bill?  I'll be plugging a telephone adapter into one of the NIC's for
VOIP, the other NIC provides the internet connection (via an asus
802.11b adapter which plugs into an RJ-45 port).

pardon, but the need for VOIP is urgent and great, so researching this
well doesn't seem to be an option.


thanks,

Thufir

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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-08 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 18:00, Christoph Eckert wrote:
  my konqueror does not support the protocol devices. Which
  library am I missing?

 maybe emerge -pv kdebase will show you use flags which have
 been disabled during compile time?

It doesn't really reveal anything interesting:

[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.0-r1  +arts +cups -debug -hal -ieee1394 
+java -kdeenablefinal +ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse +opengl +pam -samba 
+ssl -xinerama 0 kB

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[gentoo-user] Module parameters

2005-06-08 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

To keep a networkcard in 100mbit full duplex i have put a line in
/etc/modules.conf.
Now hte next time this machine is rebooted will it use this parameters or
must i do something extra?

TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-08 Thread Zac Medico


--- Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 07 June 2005 18:00, Christoph Eckert
 wrote:
   my konqueror does not support the protocol
 devices. Which
   library am I missing?
 
  maybe emerge -pv kdebase will show you use flags
 which have
  been disabled during compile time?
 
 It doesn't really reveal anything interesting:
 
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.0-r1  +arts
 +cups -debug -hal -ieee1394 
 +java -kdeenablefinal +ldap -lm_sensors
 -logitech-mouse +opengl +pam -samba 
 +ssl -xinerama 0 kB
 
 Uwe
 

In kDE 3.4 it's been replaced with media:/ and it
works for me.  It is not affected by USE flags.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:48:29 -0700, Pingveno wrote:

 Is there a way I can build a CD with a Gentoo-compatible version of
 distcc?

You could build your own Live CD, that way you get all the tools you need
and you can keep the versions in sync with your other system. There is an
excellent HOWTO on the forums.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-244837-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html


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[gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)

2005-06-08 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

I just redid my stage1 install. Everything went normal until I got to
the emerge --emptytree world part in the handbook (section 6.d). The
emerge failed when dbus-0.23-rc3 was installed. The ebuild tried to add
the group 'messagebus' to the system but then I got:

/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716: 'groupadd': command not found.

Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue with my installation
or should some portage script be fixed first?

Thanks,
  jules


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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread Zac Medico


--- THUFIR HAWAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45
 telephone-looking type) NIC
 in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo
 but with USB 2.0,
 so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother
 board details at the
 moment).
 
 the local store is willing to install a SMC one for
 a good price.  my
 only concern is the brand.  ethernet is very well
 understood and I
 just need plain-vanilla, but I don't want to have to
 fiddle with
 anything, configuring hardware or whatever, if the
 hardware doesn't
 run well under linux.
 
 does the brand matter, or will anything that says
 ethernet fit the
 bill?  I'll be plugging a telephone adapter into one
 of the NIC's for
 VOIP, the other NIC provides the internet connection
 (via an asus
 802.11b adapter which plugs into an RJ-45 port).
 
 pardon, but the need for VOIP is urgent and great,
 so researching this
 well doesn't seem to be an option.
 
 
 thanks,
 
 Thufir
 

linuxcompatible.org has a hardware compatiblility
database.  AFAIK most work but some don't.  If your
local store doesn't know maybe they will let you test
with a livecd before you buy.

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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:42:56 +0100, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:

 the local store is willing to install a SMC one for a good price.  my
 only concern is the brand.  ethernet is very well understood and I
 just need plain-vanilla, but I don't want to have to fiddle with
 anything, configuring hardware or whatever, if the hardware doesn't
 run well under linux.

Just about any PCI ethernet card will do the job. Once it is installed,
use lspci to find out which card it is and Google will tell you which
driver to use. Add it to your kernel config and you are sorted.

 pardon, but the need for VOIP is urgent and great, so researching this
 well doesn't seem to be an option.

If your need is great, surely research is more a necessity than an option?


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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:34:04 -0700 (PDT), Zac Medico wrote:

 In kDE 3.4 it's been replaced with media:/ and it
 works for me.  It is not affected by USE flags.

Although you will need the hal USE flag if you want to use the auto-
detection/mounting feature.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS,_HAL,_KDE_media:/


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Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)

2005-06-08 Thread Jules Colding
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:42 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just redid my stage1 install. Everything went normal until I got to
 the emerge --emptytree world part in the handbook (section 6.d). The
 emerge failed when dbus-0.23-rc3 was installed. The ebuild tried to add
 the group 'messagebus' to the system but then I got:
 
 /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716: 'groupadd': command not found.
 
 Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue with my installation
 or should some portage script be fixed first?

BTW: My make.conf is:

# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built 
this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ 
http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ 
http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.no/ 
http://gentoo.prz.rzeszow.pl http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo 
ftp://mirror.pudas.net/gentoo;
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=-qt -kde -oggvorbis -encode -xmms -mad -mp3 -mikmod -flac -esd -arts -avi 
-alsa -oss nptl fbcon gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 emacs tetex



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Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)

2005-06-08 Thread Zac Medico


--- Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just redid my stage1 install. Everything went
 normal until I got to
 the emerge --emptytree world part in the handbook
 (section 6.d). The
 emerge failed when dbus-0.23-rc3 was installed. The
 ebuild tried to add
 the group 'messagebus' to the system but then I got:
 
 /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716:
 'groupadd': command not found.
 
 Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue
 with my installation
 or should some portage script be fixed first?
 

That's strange. The /usr/sbin/groupadd program belongs
to sys-apps/shadow.  It's really not there?  If not
then emerge --oneshot sys-apps/shadow should fix it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:36:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 Hmm... That leads to a gross inconsistency because the sidebar offers 
 devices resulting in that error message that konqueror doesn't
 support the protocol devices.

You're right. I suspect that this is left over from a previous
installation of KDE 3.4. It is easy enough to change it to media.

 Plus, media:/ doesn't seem to notice
 hot pluggable devices.

Because you merged without the hal USE flag, or you are not running hald.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)

2005-06-08 Thread Jules Colding
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 11:10 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 01:35 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
   /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716:
   'groupadd': command not found.
   
   Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue
   with my installation
   or should some portage script be fixed first?
   
  
  That's strange. The /usr/sbin/groupadd program belongs
  to sys-apps/shadow.  It's really not there?  If not
  then emerge --oneshot sys-apps/shadow should fix it.
 
 No, it is not there. Isn't something very wrong? It seems to me that
 sys-apps/shadow is a very important package to miss in a stage1 install.

Anyway to make the emerge --emptytree system resume from were it left
after I did the '--oneshot'? 

emerge --resume doesn't have anything to resume, so do I need to do
the '--emptytree' all over again?

Thanks,
  jules


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Re: [gentoo-user] Module parameters

2005-06-08 Thread Christoph Gysin
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
 To keep a networkcard in 100mbit full duplex i have put a line in
 /etc/modules.conf.
 Now hte next time this machine is rebooted will it use this parameters or
 must i do something extra?

AFAIK /etc/modules.conf is generated from update-modules. Edit
/etc/modules.d/somefile and run update-modules. Then reboot (or rmmod
and modprobe).

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[gentoo-user] Can't make a local login when no LDAP server can be reached

2005-06-08 Thread Christian Poessinger
Hi, i successfully setted up some LDAP servers which are slurping, I also can
login to my
machines whom I told to accept LDAP useraccounts, now i found out that it isnt
possible to
log in locally with root when no LDAP server can be reached, for example when i
remove the
network cable. I can enter root for user and the pass but then after 60 seconds
it tells me
login timed out :(

Here's my /etc/pam.d/system-auth file

authrequired/lib/security/pam_env.so
authsufficient  /lib/security/pam_unix.so likeauth nullok shadow
authsufficient  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_first_pass
authrequired/lib/security/pam_deny.so

account required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so
account sufficient  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so

passwordrequired /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
passwordsufficient /lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok shadow md5
passwordsufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_authtok
passwordrequired /lib/security/pam_deny.so

session required/lib/security/pam_limits.so
session required/lib/security/pam_unix.so
session required /lib/security/pam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=0
session optional/lib/security/pam_ldap.so

and here's my nsswitch.conf

passwd:  files ldap
shadow:  files ldap
group:   files ldap

hosts:   files dns
networks:files dns


Any1 got an Idea? Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf bin does not exist

2005-06-08 Thread reg hughson
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have had xpdf installed for some time but haven't
  used it for a couple of weeks so don't really know
  which version caused me the problem...I now notice
  that the xpdf executable that used to be in /usr/bin
  no longer exists. 
  
  I did a search through the forums and found that I
  wasn't alone. However, all of the solutions listed
  in the forums involved openmotif or the xprint use
  flag or both. I have followed all of their
  suggestions including re-emerging xorg, openmotif
  and xpdf in any number of combinations. The result
  is the sameno xpdf bin file. 
  
  Any other suggestions would be appreciated. 
  
 
 Hi reg,
 
 You need to run motif-config before you merge xpdf
 with USE=-nomotif.  You can use either openmotif or
 lesstif and this is how you choose.
 
 Zac
 

Thanks Zac but that didn't do it.

When I run (as root), motif-config -l, I get this

[1] openmotif-2.2 *

so I do (also as root)  motif-config -s openmotif-2.2 and I get

rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory
rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory
rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory
rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory
ln: `/usr/include/Mrm/Mrm': File exists
rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory
ln: `/usr/include/uil/uil': File exists
rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory
ln: `/usr/include/Xm/Xm': File exists
 * /usr/bin/motif-config: New default Profile is: openmotif-2.2

after which I do USE=-nomotif emerge xpdf and in amongs the spillage on the 
screen I get

configure: WARNING: Couldn't find X / Motif -- you will be able to compile
pdftops, pdftotext, pdfinfo, pdffonts, pdftoppm, and pdfimages,
but not xpdf

So obviously something is not right with the openmotif install. Maybe it is 
this particular version of openmotif as I used to use xpdf all the time without 
incident. I will have to go through the emerge.log and find out when this 
version was installed. In the meantime, any other suggestions would be 
appreciated.
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[gentoo-user] majordomo issue

2005-06-08 Thread q-parser

Hi!

I have a problem with majordomo. Everything had been ok until recently 
when it stopped working. The log says that user majordomo is not able to 
write to /usr/tmp but this folder has 777 mod set on it. I was thinking 
that my mail server was badly configured, however I can send and receive 
mails.


Thanks for suggestions.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf bin does not exist

2005-06-08 Thread reg hughson
 
   I have had xpdf installed for some time but haven't
   used it for a couple of weeks so don't really know
   which version caused me the problem...I now notice
   that the xpdf executable that used to be in /usr/bin
   no longer exists. 
snip
  You need to run motif-config before you merge xpdf
  with USE=-nomotif.  You can use either openmotif or
  lesstif and this is how you choose.
  
  Zac
  
 
 Thanks Zac but that didn't do it.
 
 When I run (as root), motif-config -l, I get this
 
 [1] openmotif-2.2 *
 
 so I do (also as root)  motif-config -s openmotif-2.2 and I get
 
 rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory
 rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory
 rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory
 rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory
 ln: `/usr/include/Mrm/Mrm': File exists
 rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory
 ln: `/usr/include/uil/uil': File exists
 rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory
 ln: `/usr/include/Xm/Xm': File exists
  * /usr/bin/motif-config: New default Profile is: openmotif-2.2
 
 after which I do USE=-nomotif emerge xpdf and in amongs the spillage on the 
 screen I get
 
 configure: WARNING: Couldn't find X / Motif -- you will be able to compile
 pdftops, pdftotext, pdfinfo, pdffonts, pdftoppm, and pdfimages,
 but not xpdf
 

Umerged openmotif, removed the /usr/include/Mrm, /usr/include/uil and 
/usr/include/Xm directories, remerged openmotif, remerged xpf and all is back 
to normal. So does that mean that motif-config needs to be fixed?
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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread Marshal Newrock

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:


I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC
in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0,
so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the
moment).


My one piece of advice is to avoid RealTek chipsets (usually RTL-8139). 
These are the winmodems of the network world.  Most of their processing is 
done by software, not in hardware.


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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Christoph Eckert schreef:

 
 Even if you're not running KDE you can install arts standalone 
 and start it via any login script. Dunno where esound can get 
 started.

rc-update in other words, rc-update add esound default .

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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread Jonathan Wright

Marshal Newrock wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:


I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC
in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0,
so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the
moment).



My one piece of advice is to avoid RealTek chipsets (usually RTL-8139). 
These are the winmodems of the network world.  Most of their processing 
is done by software, not in hardware.


I've got about 10 Intel Pro/100 (Server, Desktop and Management 
variants) running across 3 servers and 3 desktop systems. I haven't has 
a problem with them in the 3 years I've been using them, they're well 
supported though the Becker driver (eepro100) and the Intel standard 
driver (e100). Plus with the e100 I think some processing can be 
off-loaded onto the card itself.


You can pick them up on eBay for next to nothing - usually a few quid a 
card on BuyItNow options - you'll probably have it within a day or two, 
brand new.


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RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc

2005-06-08 Thread Marchal Laurent
Another solution could be to run distcc in colinux on your Windows box,

that's I do home.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/colinux-howto.xml

Just be sure to have Windows XP Pro edition, Windows XP home doesn't

work for me...



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Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc





I'm running two computers in my house, one 550 MHz Pentium 3 and one 3

GHz Pentium 4. The slow one is running Gentoo Linux, while the fast one

is running Windows. I'd like to put together a LiveCD that can run

distcc on the faster computer just via a reboot. There's a Knoppix mod

with distcc, but apparently there are problems because of the version of

gcc that Debian uses. Gentoo has some extra patches for better security,

which can conflict with the Debian version of gcc.



Is there a way I can build a CD with a Gentoo-compatible version of

distcc?



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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Guenther
Mats Lidell wrote:

 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading
 OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet.
 Details: Failed to resolve, or extend
 '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false



I'm also having problems with my ClockApplet.   I did the same emerge,
and I do have my menus.

Any resolution?

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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Guenther
Mats Lidell wrote:



 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading
 OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet.
 Details: Failed to resolve, or extend
 '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false


 2.


Do you also have evolution?  This may be a common thread.
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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Guenther
Mats Lidell wrote:

 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading
 OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet.
 Details: Failed to resolve, or extend
 '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false



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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc

2005-06-08 Thread Matthew Cline
On 6/8/05, Marchal Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another solution could be to run distcc in colinux on your Windows box,
 
 that's I do home.
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/colinux-howto.xml
 
 Just be sure to have Windows XP Pro edition, Windows XP home doesn't
 
 work for me...
 
 
 
 Laurent Marchal
 
 
 

there is also an article in the Gentoo-Wiki about running distcc in
Windows via cygwin:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Distcc_server_on_Windows

The process is pretty long and tedious, so be warned, but it seems to work.

Matt

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Re: [gentoo-user] gthumb GTK error

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Guenther
Grant wrote:

To me this looks like a simple case of not being in X when trying to run
an X-based application.
Trying starting X (most likely you run gnome) then try to run gthumb.




Huh, I logged out of root and I can run gthumb as a normal user just
fine.  Not as root though.  Weird.
  


try running `xhost +local:` from your user console.  Then you should be
able to run it as root.

btw, I can run as root.   I'm not sure what the diff is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Tim Igoe


Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hello,
I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV
 frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for
 default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems
 that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find
 what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see
 nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere
 else I should look?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 

If its once per hour, its probably hourly crons running then. My laptop
behaved itself when i was running linux on it - rarely spinning teh disk
 up at all. Can't say the same for my desktop however. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-08 Thread Holly Bostick
fire-eyes schreef:
 When performing an emerge -pv world on an x86 server, I got this today:
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-libs/pam-0.78 have been masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
 request:
 - sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
 - sys-libs/pam-0.78-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
 - sys-libs/pam-0.78 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
 
 For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
 section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook.
 !!!(dependency required by net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.10-r5 [ebuild])
 
 
 !!! Problem with ebuild net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.10-r5
 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
 
 !!! Depgraph creation failed.
 
 I am not quite sure what I should do. Unmask something, for use on a server? 
 I don't think so...
 
 Does anyone have any ideas, perhaps I made an error in the recent past that 
 caused this? Or, maybe I'm not alone?
 

This isn't an error-- certainly nothing you've done. It's just
information inviting you to specify how you want to configure your machine.

The version of proftpd you are trying to install depends on a version of
PAM that is not available to install (because it is masked by ~arch).

Proftpd 1.2.10-r5 is also ~arch, according to eix. So you've unmasked
the program, but not its dependency, which doesn't make a whole lot of
sense :-) .

Either unmask pam, remove pam from the use flags for this package (echo
'net-ftp/proftpd -pam /etc/portage/package.use) so that the package no
longer depends on PAM at all, or remask proftpd and install the x86
version, which will presumably depend on a stable version of PAM.

Hope this helps.

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Remy Blank
Mark Knecht wrote:
I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV
 frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for
 default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems
 that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find
 what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see
 nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere
 else I should look?

Laptop mode prevents the drive spinning up when a process writes to the
disk. However, in its default configuration, it is configured to flush
the cached writes after a maximum of 600 seconds (MAX_AGE). On my
laptop, this means that the drive does spin up about every 10 minues.

Your could try enabling block dumping in the kernel:

echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

After that, the kernel will dump every block read and write to the
kernel log. This might allow you to identify which file is accessed and
which process causes the access.

Note that you better switch off any logger before doing that (or at
least log through the network), otherwise you'll see all the writes from
the logger itself...

HTH.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi! 

Richard Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 When I last rebuilt everything, I did it by:
 
 emerge --emptytree --pretend world \
 | grep / \
 | awk -F']' '{ print $2 }' buildlist.txt
 
 for x in `cat buildlist.txt`; do
 emerge --oneshot $x
 if test $? -ne 0; then
echo package $x failed
break
 fi
 done

Is that actually, what you used? Shouldn't it rather 
be:

emerge --oneshot =$x

Because, when I tried your script, I got:

Calculating dependencies

!!! Problem in sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 dependencies.
!!! Specific key requires an operator (sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1) (try
adding an '=') exceptions

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
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From: Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 8, 2005 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org




Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hello,
I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV
 frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for
 default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems
 that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find
 what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see
 nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere
 else I should look?

 Thanks,
 Mark


If its once per hour, its probably hourly crons running then. My laptop
behaved itself when i was running linux on it - rarely spinning teh disk
 up at all. Can't say the same for my desktop however. :)


But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run?

Thanks,
Mark


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[gentoo-user] depclean sane?

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
How are these for depcleaning?

sys-libs/lib-compat
media-libs/libao
sys-fs/device-mapper
sys-fs/cryptsetup
app-shells/sash
app-text/gtkspell
media-libs/t1lib
app-arch/ncompress

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
 To me, it's not a focus on gentopia. Gentopia is Gentoo's version of the
 project utopia stack (which is more GNOME specific).
 
 for example, gamin is the successor to famd which works more efficiently
 based on inotify.
 
 gnome-volume-manager for example works with gamin + udev + hal + dbus to
 make all the necessary messages to make things smooth much like a Mac
 right now.
 
 I don't think gentopia will be default for gentoo, but I do think it
 will be for Gnome.
 
 To me, gentoo isn't really for the masses, for those we have
 Ubuntu/Knoppix/Fedora.

But don't you think all computer systems are moving toward that type
of functionality, although some more quickly and more directly than
others?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
Thanks Remy. I'll investigate some of these settings.

As I sat here at 6:48AM (roughly) the drive spun up again. I was
watching 'top' but couldn't tell what process used more CPU.

One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:

SNIP
 Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
# (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
SNIP

Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is
not totally operational since I would never be on battery?  I'm trying
changing this to '1' and seeing what happens.

cheers,
Mark

On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV
  frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for
  default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems
  that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find
  what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see
  nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere
  else I should look?
 
 Laptop mode prevents the drive spinning up when a process writes to the
 disk. However, in its default configuration, it is configured to flush
 the cached writes after a maximum of 600 seconds (MAX_AGE). On my
 laptop, this means that the drive does spin up about every 10 minues.
 
 Your could try enabling block dumping in the kernel:
 
 echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
 
 After that, the kernel will dump every block read and write to the
 kernel log. This might allow you to identify which file is accessed and
 which process causes the access.
 
 Note that you better switch off any logger before doing that (or at
 least log through the network), otherwise you'll see all the writes from
 the logger itself...
 
 HTH.
 -- Remy
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-08 Thread Matt Place
Check out emwrap in the forums:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html

With emwrap you can rebuild your entire system, including the
toolchain, correctly.
Hope it helps, I think it's great.

-Matt-

On 6/8/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Richard Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  When I last rebuilt everything, I did it by:
 
  emerge --emptytree --pretend world \
  | grep / \
  | awk -F']' '{ print $2 }' buildlist.txt
 
  for x in `cat buildlist.txt`; do
  emerge --oneshot $x
  if test $? -ne 0; then
 echo package $x failed
 break
  fi
  done
 
 Is that actually, what you used? Shouldn't it rather
 be:
 
 emerge --oneshot =$x
 
 Because, when I tried your script, I got:
 
 Calculating dependencies
 
 !!! Problem in sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 dependencies.
 !!! Specific key requires an operator (sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1) (try
 adding an '=') exceptions
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How are these for depcleaning?
 
 sys-libs/lib-compat
 media-libs/libao
 sys-fs/device-mapper
 sys-fs/cryptsetup
 app-shells/sash
 app-text/gtkspell
 media-libs/t1lib
 app-arch/ncompress
 
 - Grant

Of these only t1lib appeared in my world file. You could go through
the basic process like this:

1) emerge --update --deep --newuse world

until everythign is clean and up to date.

2) emerge -C gtkspell

3) revdep-rebuild -p

and look at what it's saying. Don't worry about failures on
openoffice-bin or other binary downloads.

Basically go around the loop removing one or two and seeing how it
goes. If revdep-rebuild sees a problem then you'll re-emerge what you
need and be clean.

Good luck,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-08 Thread Tamas Sarga

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Richard Fish wrote:


 Your best bet is probably emerge --emptytree world.  That will
 basically emerge the current version of world and all dependancies.
 Nothing will be built twice.


If you have packages in world file with more versions in more slots,
then only the newest version will be recompiled. For example old KDE
versions wouldn't be recompiled.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 07:02 -0700, Grant wrote:
  To me, it's not a focus on gentopia. Gentopia is Gentoo's version of the
  project utopia stack (which is more GNOME specific).
  
  for example, gamin is the successor to famd which works more efficiently
  based on inotify.
  
  gnome-volume-manager for example works with gamin + udev + hal + dbus to
  make all the necessary messages to make things smooth much like a Mac
  right now.
  
  I don't think gentopia will be default for gentoo, but I do think it
  will be for Gnome.
  
  To me, gentoo isn't really for the masses, for those we have
  Ubuntu/Knoppix/Fedora.
 
 But don't you think all computer systems are moving toward that type
 of functionality, although some more quickly and more directly than
 others?
 

Well I think your and my answer has already answered that. I stated that
gnome will have it. You stated that all comp sys are moving towards
that. 

What more can I say? Don't use Gnome? Don't use computers?

but the thing is, with Gentoo, we can still choose.
right?

(please.. someone re-assure me!!)
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (please.. someone re-assure me!!)

You are hereby reassured. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 07:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Thanks Remy. I'll investigate some of these settings.
 
 As I sat here at 6:48AM (roughly) the drive spun up again. I was
 watching 'top' but couldn't tell what process used more CPU.

you can choose to use debug more in laptop mode. 

#echo 1  /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

and by the way, it should be which process used the HD isn't it?

[This is what happens when ppl top post and I don't read the bottom post
to reply 1st. So.. I answered the question again. Oh well.. since it's
already written]

 One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:
 
 SNIP
  Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
 # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
 LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
 SNIP

This is just a detection mech. Even though it says it will disable it, I
don't think it's really doing that. Because there's no cron-job to check
the remaining level etc.



 Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is
 not totally operational since I would never be on battery?  I'm trying
 changing this to '1' and seeing what happens.
 
 cheers,
 Mark
 
 On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
  I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV
   frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for
   default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems
   that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find
   what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see
   nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere
   else I should look?
  
  Laptop mode prevents the drive spinning up when a process writes to the
  disk. However, in its default configuration, it is configured to flush
  the cached writes after a maximum of 600 seconds (MAX_AGE). On my
  laptop, this means that the drive does spin up about every 10 minues.
  
  Your could try enabling block dumping in the kernel:
  
  echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
  
  After that, the kernel will dump every block read and write to the
  kernel log. This might allow you to identify which file is accessed and
  which process causes the access.
  
  Note that you better switch off any logger before doing that (or at
  least log through the network), otherwise you'll see all the writes from
  the logger itself...

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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread THUFIR HAWAT
On 6/8/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 Just wanted to say this..
 
 El-Cheapo cards will work, but may not be as full-featured or as fast
 throughput as the more expensive 3com cards. eg: USD6 Dlink vs USD25
 3com.
 
 One Dlink I got was absolutely horrible. It will hang after a while and
 then everything will stop. Once changed the card, it's OK. I think this
 was a realtek chipset which caused the issue.
 
 But in general, my experience is, if it's not for too much heavy duty
 work, el-cheapo will be good enough.
 
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 Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM
 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!!
 Neuromancer 17:44:11 up 5:56, 6 users, load average: 1.16, 1.13, 0.85

thank you so much, all.  I have enough to go on to make some phone
calls and ask the right questions to get this done today, hopefully. 
this need came up very suddenly so the advice on this list has been
fantastic and much appreciated.

thank you, 

Thufir

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-08 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Ramón Gutiérrez wrote:
 go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 *
 case sensitive
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:58:52 -0400, Ramón Gutiérrez wrote:

 go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 *

The words sledgehammer and nut spring to mind...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 07:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Thanks Remy. I'll investigate some of these settings.
 
  As I sat here at 6:48AM (roughly) the drive spun up again. I was
  watching 'top' but couldn't tell what process used more CPU.
 
 you can choose to use debug more in laptop mode.
 
 #echo 1  /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

Maybe I don't have something configured correctly in the kernel? this
didn't work.

myth11 root # echo 1/proc/sys/vm/block_dump
myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
0
myth11 root #
 
 and by the way, it should be which process used the HD isn't it?

chuckle Well, yes, true, but my thought was that nothing would use
the HD without using the CPU. Clearly I Was wrong or it wasn't enough
to push it up and make it visible.

 
 [This is what happens when ppl top post and I don't read the bottom post
 to reply 1st. So.. I answered the question again. Oh well.. since it's
 already written]

Yeah, sorry...

 
  One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:
 
  SNIP
   Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
  # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
  LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
  SNIP
 
 This is just a detection mech. Even though it says it will disable it, I
 don't think it's really doing that. Because there's no cron-job to check
 the remaining level etc.

Uhdoes that mean that cron needs to be running to use laptop_mode
or only to check the battery, etc.?

I looked at crontab -u root/nobody/mark and there were no entries so I
figured I could try turning it off. I had not et figured out how to
determine all the users that might possibly have crontab's.

Thanks,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Remy Blank
Mark Knecht wrote:
 One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:
 
 SNIP
  Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
 # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
 LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
 SNIP
 
 Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is
 not totally operational since I would never be on battery?  I'm trying
 changing this to '1' and seeing what happens.

You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with:

cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode

My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea
why it's not 1).

Moreover, if your filesystem is ext3, a mount shows the following:

/dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,user_xattr,commit=600)

where the important part is the option commit=600, the value being
your MAX_AGE parameter. If laptop_mode is disabled, the parameter is
either absent or commit=0.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Shields
I'd highly recommend you don't add ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to your make
file, as this will cause your system to emerge with all ~x86
(testing/unstable) packages upon next emerge. Add this to your
/etc/portage/package.keywords: =sys-libs/pam-0.78 then emerge -pv
again.

On 6/8/05, Bastian Balthazar Bux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ramón Gutiérrez wrote:
  go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 *
  case sensitive
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:
 
  SNIP
   Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
  # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
  LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
  SNIP
 
  Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is
  not totally operational since I would never be on battery?  I'm trying
  changing this to '1' and seeing what happens.
 
 You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with:
 
 cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
 
 My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea
 why it's not 1).

Mine says '2' also:

myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
2
myth11 root #

 
 Moreover, if your filesystem is ext3, a mount shows the following:
 
 /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,user_xattr,commit=600)
 
 where the important part is the option commit=600, the value being
 your MAX_AGE parameter. If laptop_mode is disabled, the parameter is
 either absent or commit=0.

So it aappears here to be enabled:

myth11 root # mount
/dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /dev type ramfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
myth11 root #

So this should be spinning the drive up every 10 minutes? I don't
think that's happening but I'll watch it carefully for another 30
minutes.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 17:31 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:
  
  SNIP
   Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
  # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
  LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
  SNIP
  
  Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is
  not totally operational since I would never be on battery?  I'm trying
  changing this to '1' and seeing what happens.
 
 You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with:
 
 cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
 
 My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea
 why it's not 1).
 
 Moreover, if your filesystem is ext3, a mount shows the following:
 
 /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,user_xattr,commit=600)
 
 where the important part is the option commit=600, the value being
 your MAX_AGE parameter. If laptop_mode is disabled, the parameter is
 either absent or commit=0.


If you really want to learn more about power management in Linux, I
suggest you google for laptop_mode or you can read the article in the
spanking new MyOSS Magazine at http://mag.my-opensource.org which lists
all the links in one place for your perusal.

otherwise.. try cat /usr/share/doc/laptop[tab]/laptop-mode.gz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:34:34 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 So: is there an easy way to find out if a package can
 be removed from world because it is already in there
 as a dependency or because of the profile?  I'd like
 to pare world down to just the things that make a
 difference.

Remove the line from the world file and run emerge depclean -p

If depclean wants to remove it, it was probably installed as a dependency
of something you no longer have.

You can also use equery depends ,packagename to find what packages
depend on it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 08:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
   One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one:
  
   SNIP
Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery?
   # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.)
   LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0
   SNIP
  
   Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is
   not totally operational since I would never be on battery?  I'm trying
   changing this to '1' and seeing what happens.
  
  You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with:
  
  cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
  
  My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea
  why it's not 1).
 
 Mine says '2' also:
 
 myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
 2
 myth11 root #

Mine says 0 (cause I'm on AC right now)

on Battery it changes to 2

/usr/sbin/laptop_mode
case $KLEVEL in
2.4)
echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
echo 30 500 0 0 $AGE $AGE 60 20 0  /proc/sys/vm/bdflush
 ;;
2.6)
echo $LM_SECONDS_BEFORE_SYNC   /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode

where LM_Seconds is 2


 /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600)
 So this should be spinning the drive up every 10 minutes? I don't
 think that's happening but I'll watch it carefully for another 30
 minutes.

The 10 minutes is a guide only. It just tries to collect all the writes
and make it write only once.

Try this script if you want to find out what's happening or how long is
the spinup/down.

$ cat HDtest.sh 
#!/bin/sh
c0=0
c1=0
n=0
f0=standby
d0=`date +%s`
while true
do
   f1=`hdparm -C /dev/hda | grep 'drive state' | awk '{print $4}'`
   if test $f0 != $f1
   then
  d1=`date +%s`
  c=`expr $d1 - $d0`
  if test $f0 = standby
  then
 c0=`expr $c0 + $c`
  else
 c1=`expr $c1 + $c`
 n=`expr $n + 1`
  fi
  echo [`date +%X`]  $c seconds in $f0 mode. ($c0 s standby/$c1 s
active/$n spinups)
  f0=$f1
  d0=$d1
   fi
   sleep 1
done


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Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash

2005-06-08 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
thank you.

On 6/8/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/7/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  guys I had installed splashutils and I confess I am totally lost :( .
  where can I find information about it ?
 
 Possibly here?
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash
 
 Good luck,
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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-08 Thread Roy Wright
OK, I give.  How do you configure media?
I tried:
* Add New | Web SideBar Module
** Name = Media
** URL = media:/
But this gives a An error occurred while loading media:/; Malformed URL
media:/.
when clicked.

TIA,
Roy

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:36:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote:

  

Hmm... That leads to a gross inconsistency because the sidebar offers 
devices resulting in that error message that konqueror doesn't
support the protocol devices.



You're right. I suspect that this is left over from a previous
installation of KDE 3.4. It is easy enough to change it to media.

  

Plus, media:/ doesn't seem to notice
hot pluggable devices.



Because you merged without the hal USE flag, or you are not running hald.


  

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Shields schreef:
 I'd highly recommend you don't add ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to your make
 file, as this will cause your system to emerge with all ~x86
 (testing/unstable) packages upon next emerge. Add this to your
 /etc/portage/package.keywords: =sys-libs/pam-0.78 then emerge -pv
 again.
 

I agree that adding ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 is a bad idea if you want to
run a (mostly) stable system, but

*unmasking PAM is not the only solution!!!*

PAM is an *optional* dependency; you can compile the program -pam and
still use the unstable proftpd without having to also use an unstable PAM.

I admit that I don't know how proftpd will react if the system as a
whole is not PAM-free (like mine), but it itself is but since it is
optional, it ought to work OK anyway (if PAM was a required dependency
for the package, there wouldn't be a USE flag for it; it would just be
installed).

Or one could just use a stable version of proftpd which would not
require an update to PAM, but instead use the version of PAM currently
installed.

Under Linux, if there's not at least two ways to do something, there's
something wrong but under Gentoo, if there's not at least three ways
to do something, you've (probably) missed (at least) one.

:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread Antoine

 My one piece of advice is to avoid RealTek chipsets (usually RTL-8139).
 These are the winmodems of the network world.  Most of their processing
 is done by software, not in hardware.

Been solid as a rock for me for ages now (is that 8139too?)... I
occasionally shift dvd images around but nothing more serious than that
though...
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

 But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run?

What else is running?

Maybe you can run ps -ef and show us the output?

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Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 El-Cheapo cards will work, but may not be as full-featured or as fast
 throughput as the more expensive 3com cards. eg: USD6 Dlink vs USD25
 3com.

Speaking from the server side of the fence, we swear by Intel eepro cards.


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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:31:52 -0500, Roy Wright wrote:

 OK, I give.  How do you configure media?
 I tried:
 * Add New | Web SideBar Module
 ** Name = Media
 ** URL = media:/
 But this gives a An error occurred while loading media:/; Malformed URL
 media:/.
 when clicked.

I just right-clicked the devices item, selected Properties and changed
the URL to media:/

Does media:/ work if you type it in the location bar?


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[gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor

2005-06-08 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
Hello,

I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging
some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no
matter what I emerge, the error looks like this:

..etc/ebuild.sh  ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission
denied

and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips?

P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc/Live CD's are Wonderfull

2005-06-08 Thread Rob

At 10:49 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:



--- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi all,

 I am slowly but surely rescuing my Gentoo System
 with the latest Live
 CD.  It is truly a miracle to have this tool, but
 you need to take some
 time experimenting with how to use it,   For
 example, mounting boot and
 root partitions and the proc system.  I will soon
 have my system up and
 running but I had to go in and remove the * from my
 passwd file using vipw
 so that I could get into the new system.  I am still
 getting messages of
 segmentation fault after I perform certain
 operations.  I am not sure
 what is causing that, but the cure is to re untar
 the stage-3 tarball onto
 my Gentoo partition.  Anyway I lost my Grub disk, so
 I am taking a vacation
 until I find it.  I am a disabled hacker who has no
 short term memory, so
 whenever I lose something, I have to take on an
 orthagonal persuit, haha.

 God Bless,

 Rob.

Are you serious about not having short term memory?
That must be difficult.

Bless you too,

Zac



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Hi Zac,

I am pleased to meet you here on this wonderful list.

Oh, this is OT, but perhaps not for the Absent Minded Professor Type 
hacker.  Remember that there is a fine line between genious and insanity, 
LOL, per Nikola Tesla, my phantom mentor.   Yes, it seems to be true, no 
short term memory.  Yesterday I got my Disabled Motorist Permit, so I can 
park right next to the mall or store.  If I venture out into the parking 
lot, I lose my car.  It is a green Camry so it looks like 1000 other cars, 
so I have to contact security and they come help me find my car.


It is not so bad as my doctors have competing theories.  1. Theory is that 
I burnt out my short term memory using drugs and alcohol, LOL.  I have been 
clean and sober for years now, but I am 43 years old.  2.  Theory is that 
since driving and parking is primarily an unconcious activity, I am 
unconsciously parking and not REGISTERING my car's location in 
memory.  Thus it is always lost when I go to  find it.   Thus the solution 
is to sit in my car an meditate after parking so that suddenly I am living 
in the moment and the car location REGISTRATES in my brain.   I am going 
to try this last procedure, as I don't want to be having Alzheimer's 
disease in my 40's.


Thanks for all who listen.  Now you know alot about me and who I am here in 
Hillsboro, Oregon, where all sun is liquid sunshine i.e rain, haha.  I am 
Rob, disabled Berkeley BSEE, now turned Gentoo Linux hacker.  I hope I can 
have coffee with Linus the next time he is up here.  He works only 3 miles 
from where I live.


Best regards, and sorry for this very OT OT subject.

Sincerely,  Rob N3FT



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Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run?
 
 What else is running?
 
 Maybe you can run ps -ef and show us the output?
 
Hi - here you go.

myth11 root # ps -ef
UIDPID  PPID  C STIME TTY  TIME CMD
root 1 0  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 init [3]
root 2 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 3 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [events/0]
root 4 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [khelper]
root 9 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kthread]
root19 9  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kacpid]
root   100 9  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kblockd/0]
root   113 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [khubd]
root   184 9  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [pdflush]
root   185 9  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [pdflush]
root   186 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kswapd0]
root   187 9  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [aio/0]
root   773 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kseriod]
root   869 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kjournald]
root   919 1  0 10:18 ?00:00:00 udevd
root  5341 1  0 10:19 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng
root  5863 1  0 10:19 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root  5887 1  0 10:19 ?00:00:00 login -- mark
root  5892 1  0 10:19 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
root  5893 1  0 10:19 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
root  5894 1  0 10:19 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
root  5895 1  0 10:19 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
root  5896 1  0 10:19 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
mark  5963  5887  0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 -bash
mark  5969  5963  0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
mark  5980  5969  0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 xinit
/home/mark/.xinitrc -- -nolisten tcp -br -defroot  5981  5980  3
10:20 ?00:00:03 X :0 -nolisten tcp -br -deferglyphs 16
mark  5991  5980  1 10:20 tty1 00:00:01 mythfrontend
mark  5992  5991  0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 fluxbox
root  5997  5863  0 10:21 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0
root  6003  5997  0 10:21 pts/000:00:00 -bash
root  6008  6003  0 10:21 pts/000:00:00 ps -ef

I suppose that one possibility is that mythfrontend itself could
access the disk every so often for some reason. I should check on that
if nothing else explains this 1 hour behaviour.

Thanks!

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 June 2005 16:35, Mark Knecht wrote:
  myth11 root # echo 1/proc/sys/vm/block_dump
  myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
  0
 
 [18:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]
 # echo 1  /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
 [18:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]
 # cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
 1
 
 Note the spaces.
 
 --
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I did not know that Peter. Thanks.
- Mark

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[gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome.  I'm not
using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons.  Do they just basically
take some load from the CPU and put it in memory?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-08 Thread maxim wexler
 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
   
 
 
 That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so
 take the 'cdboot' off
 the front of that.

Nope. Now I get:

mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - -

But I have another question: At what point does
vmlinuz(under /tmp/cdboot/boot)make it onto the CD?
The path to stage2_eltorito seems to pass it by.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Mark Knecht wrote:

On 6/8/05, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

My world file seems remarkably long to me at 129 lines.
I know I've added some stuff, but many of these entries
ring no bells in my memory.

I think a big part of what has happened is that in various
throes of dealing with portage, I've emerged particular
things without the --oneshot flag -- I had this system for
quite a while before I even knew about that flag.

So: is there an easy way to find out if a package can
be removed from world because it is already in there
as a dependency or because of the profile?  I'd like
to pare world down to just the things that make a
difference.

++ kevin



Hi Kevin,
   I don't know of an automated way to do it. I had to go through my
machines by hand doing the emerge/depclean/revdep-rebuild process I
outlined in an email on this subject to Grant this morning. It took me
a while to get it done.

  


Here is a script to do it:

cat /var/lib/portage/world | \
while read line; do
count=`equery depends $line | wc -l`
test $count -gt 0  echo $line
done

This will output every package listed in world that is a dependancy of
something else.  Of course, you need a recent version of gentoolkit to
get equery.

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Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Grant wrote:

How are these for depcleaning?

sys-libs/lib-compat
media-libs/libao
sys-fs/device-mapper
sys-fs/cryptsetup
app-shells/sash
app-text/gtkspell
media-libs/t1lib
app-arch/ncompress
  


The only two that worry me are device-mapper and cryptsetup.  If you are
using LVM2 or dm-crypt, you need those, and should add them to world.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Alexander Skwar wrote:

Is that actually, what you used? Shouldn't it rather 
be:

   emerge --oneshot =$x

  


Yep, you're right.  Looks like I need some 'ECC' memory... ;-

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??

2005-06-08 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
My solution was to mask the package:
# media-video
=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664
=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7664

I will try installing it again later.
If all else fails, you can try this as well ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-08 Thread Kurt Guenther
Kurt Guenther wrote:

Mats Lidell wrote:

  

1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading
OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet.
Details: Failed to resolve, or extend
'!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false





Opened Bug


95442


  


Try this: 

emerge -p  gnome-applets

I found a package that was blocking the emerge (including one for gnome
menus).  I resolved this and emerged about 10 packages and my clock
applet is running.

Although, now I have a impossibly small font for my resolution
(1900x1200).  It seems that most of the gnome preferences menu items are
missing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
  How are these for depcleaning?
 
  sys-libs/lib-compat
  media-libs/libao
  sys-fs/device-mapper
  sys-fs/cryptsetup
  app-shells/sash
  app-text/gtkspell
  media-libs/t1lib
  app-arch/ncompress
 
  - Grant
 
 Of these only t1lib appeared in my world file. You could go through
 the basic process like this:
 
 1) emerge --update --deep --newuse world
 
 until everythign is clean and up to date.
 
 2) emerge -C gtkspell
 
 3) revdep-rebuild -p
 
 and look at what it's saying. Don't worry about failures on
 openoffice-bin or other binary downloads.
 
 Basically go around the loop removing one or two and seeing how it
 goes. If revdep-rebuild sees a problem then you'll re-emerge what you
 need and be clean.
 
 Good luck,
 Mark

It looks like gnutls needs to be re-emerged.  Thanks!

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[gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
When I try to mount CDRW discs I get:

mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock

but other discs mount fine.  Does anyone know what that is about? 
Maybe I'm not burning them correctly?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-08 Thread Christoph Eckert

 I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome.
  I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons.

http://www.skype.com/help/faq/linux.html

»What sound system does Skype for Linux beta use? 
Skype for Linux beta uses OSS (Open Sound System), 
using /dev/dsp as its audio input and output device. It works 
fine also with ALSA and its OSS emulation layer. Native 
support for other sound systems will be added in the future.«

This means:

* No sounddemon gets used
* ALSA doesn't get used (directly)
* OSS gets used
* But if you have ALSA installed it will work via the ALSA OSS 
emulation
* If your card doesn't support hardware mixing (most consumer 
cards do not) only one application or soundserver can run on 
the card. If Skype blocks the card, you cannot use any other 
audio application
* EVen with DMIX (ALSA software mixing plugin) it will be 
difficult because DMIX cannot handle transparently OSS 
requesting apps



Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
 

  

That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so
take the 'cdboot' off
the front of that.



Nope. Now I get:

mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - -
  


You typod something.  Looks like you put a space between the '-' and the
first character of one of the options.

# mkisofs - o /tmp/tmp.iso ./
mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - -

# mkisofs -o /tmp/tmp.iso ./
Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 0
Total directory bytes: 4096
Path table size(bytes): 34
Max brk space used 21000
1064 extents written (2 MB)


But I have another question: At what point does
vmlinuz(under /tmp/cdboot/boot)make it onto the CD?
The path to stage2_eltorito seems to pass it by.
  


When you run mkisofs, it creates an ISO (cdrom filesystem) image with
all of the files in the cdboot directory.  So, for example
carcharias cdboot # find *
./boot
./boot/grub
./boot/grub/stage2_eltorito
./boot/grub/menu.lst
./boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
./boot/vmlinuz

Running mkisofs from this directory will create an ISO image with all of
these files included.  You then use cdrecord to write the ISO image to
the CD.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Ognjen Bezanov wrote:

Hello,

I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging
some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no
matter what I emerge, the error looks like this:

..etc/ebuild.sh  ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission
denied

and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips?
  


What are the permissions and ownership of the directory you are using
for portage tmpdir.  The defaults for /var/tmp are:

carcharias cdboot # ls -ld /var/tmp
drwxrwxrwt  8 root root 4096 Jun  8 18:09 /var/tmp

Note that portage runs as user 'portage' while compiling stuff, so I am
guessing the chosen directory will need to be writable by portage.

P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address

  


Ok, stupid question.  If you don't trust your email address, how is
cc'ing your _email address_ supposed to help?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Mark Knecht wrote:

On 6/8/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:



But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run?
  

What else is running?

Maybe you can run ps -ef and show us the output?



root  5341 1  0 10:19 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng

  


Double check your /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf file.  I find the
following in mine:

# The default action of syslog-ng 1.6.0 is to log a STATS line
# to the file every 10 minutes.  That's pretty ugly after a while.
# Change it to every 12 hours so you get a nice daily update of
# how many messages syslog-ng missed (0).
stats(43200);

If yours was set to 3600 for some reason, that would account for the 1
hour spinup.

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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Christoph Eckert wrote:

There is an alsa plugin to allow any native alsa
application to connect through the jack server.
 Unfortunately I've never been able to get acceptable sound
quality using it this way



I guess you mean bio2jack.sf.net?

  


No, I mean 'media-plugins/alsa-jack'.  No application changes are
necessary if the app already knows alsa...it just appears as another
output possibility and is configured in your .asoundrc file, like dmix.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file

2005-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/8/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 

 Hi Kevin,
I don't know of an automated way to do it. I had to go through my
 machines by hand doing the emerge/depclean/revdep-rebuild process I
 outlined in an email on this subject to Grant this morning. It took me
 a while to get it done.
 
 
 
 
 Here is a script to do it:
 
 cat /var/lib/portage/world | \
 while read line; do
 count=`equery depends $line | wc -l`
 test $count -gt 0  echo $line
 done
 
 This will output every package listed in world that is a dependancy of
 something else.  Of course, you need a recent version of gentoolkit to
 get equery.
 
 -Richard
 
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Interesting results. I don't think I'd want to remove these and I
thing the system would complain a bit if I removed vim. Anyway, it was
an intersting experiment.

myth11 root # ./CHECK-world
app-editors/vim
sys-apps/pciutils
media-tv/mythtv
myth11 root # cat /var/lib/portage/world
sys-apps/slocate
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
app-portage/gentoolkit
media-sound/alsa-tools
media-plugins/alsa-jack
media-sound/alsa-utils
app-editors/vim
media-plugins/mythweather
x11-wm/fluxbox
sys-apps/pciutils
app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools
media-video/ati-drivers
sys-kernel/linux-headers
sys-boot/grub
media-libs/alsa-oss
media-plugins/mythnews
app-admin/syslog-ng
media-tv/mythtv
app-misc/screen
myth11 root #

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
  I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome.
  I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons.
 
 http://www.skype.com/help/faq/linux.html
 
 »What sound system does Skype for Linux beta use?
 Skype for Linux beta uses OSS (Open Sound System),
 using /dev/dsp as its audio input and output device. It works
 fine also with ALSA and its OSS emulation layer. Native
 support for other sound systems will be added in the future.«
 
 This means:
 
 * No sounddemon gets used
 * ALSA doesn't get used (directly)
 * OSS gets used
 * But if you have ALSA installed it will work via the ALSA OSS
 emulation
 * If your card doesn't support hardware mixing (most consumer
 cards do not) only one application or soundserver can run on
 the card. If Skype blocks the card, you cannot use any other
 audio application
 * EVen with DMIX (ALSA software mixing plugin) it will be
 difficult because DMIX cannot handle transparently OSS
 requesting apps

What I'm confused about is the message I get when running skype from
the command line:

No running artsd or esd found
Starting skype without sound daemon

There are arts and esd USE flags for skype.  Where do these sound
daemons come in?

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[gentoo-user] is there anybody succeded with ./CA.pl -newca in Gentoo 2005.0?

2005-06-08 Thread askar ...
Hello!

Is there anybody who succeded in making certificates with ./CA.pl
-newca in Gentoo 2005.0?
I was using universal live cd, with its stage and portage files not
using emerge --sync. I followed howto guide for virtual mail system
with postfix. One of the step was creating certicates with ./CA.pl
-newca but didn't succeed, about what I already wrote in ML, but
couldn't solve the problem.
I would like to know if this is a bug or not? Or what if not a bug.

thanks in advance.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
 Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability.
 But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to
 penetrate the market with their proprietary protocol- As soon
 as this happened, it is likely that the Linux version
 disappears.

Why would they remove the Linux version?  That would mean less people
will use and pay for their software.

 So, if you like your freedom, search for free alternatives,
 and if there are none, help building them. There already are
 alternatives like linphone, SFLphone or KPhone.

Do those alternatives let you call normal phone lines?  It's hard to
tell from these:

http://www.linphone.org
http://www.sflphone.org/
http://www.wirlab.net/kphone/

It looks like linphone and kphone are in portage but not sflphone?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Grant wrote:

When I try to mount CDRW discs I get:

mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock

but other discs mount fine.  Does anyone know what that is about? 
Maybe I'm not burning them correctly?

  


What are you using to write these?  Are they fixated?  Maybe cdrecord
... -fix can help...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Mark Knecht wrote:

Interesting results. I don't think I'd want to remove these and I
thing the system would complain a bit if I removed vim. Anyway, it was
an intersting experiment.
  


Yes, _unmerging_ anything in this list could be extremely dangerous.  It
might lead you to unmerge python or even glibc...and then you would be
really hosed.

I would consider the output a guide for manually (and cautiously!)
editing your world file!

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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Richard Fish wrote:


Grant wrote:


When I try to mount CDRW discs I get:

mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock

but other discs mount fine.  Does anyone know what that is about?
Maybe I'm not burning them correctly?





What are you using to write these?  Are they fixated?  Maybe cdrecord
... -fix can help...


Actually, looks like he's trying to mount the CD with ext2/3 filesystem 
instead of iso9660


try:

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom


If that works, fix your fstab


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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
 When I try to mount CDRW discs I get:
 
 mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock
 
 but other discs mount fine.  Does anyone know what that is about?
 Maybe I'm not burning them correctly?
 
 
 
 
 What are you using to write these?  Are they fixated?  Maybe cdrecord
 ... -fix can help...
 
 -Richard

I used -fix and still can't mount them.  I'm writing them like this:

cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -audio -pad *.wav

When trying to mount it actually tells me to specify the filesystem
type first, then I specify vfat (it won't accept auto), then I get the
superblock error.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
  When I try to mount CDRW discs I get:
 
  mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock
 
  but other discs mount fine.  Does anyone know what that is about?
  Maybe I'm not burning them correctly?
 
 
 
 
  What are you using to write these?  Are they fixated?  Maybe cdrecord
  ... -fix can help...
 
 Actually, looks like he's trying to mount the CD with ext2/3 filesystem
 instead of iso9660
 
 try:
 
 mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
 
 
 If that works, fix your fstab

With 5 out of 6 of my CDRW discs I get this:

system4 ~ # mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
or too many mounted file systems

But on 1 of them it mounts fine even if I don't specifiy -t.  That
disc only has one file on it.  The discs that won't mount do play in a
CD player just fine.  Any ideas?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Grant schreef:
The discs that won't mount do play in a
 CD player just fine.  Any ideas?

Are these then regular Redbook audio CDs you've burned? Those don't need
to be mounted. Just put them into the drive, open your media player of
choice and play them as you would a 'retail' audio CD.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Zac Medico


--- Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -audio -pad *.wav
 
 When trying to mount it actually tells me to specify
 the filesystem
 type first, then I specify vfat (it won't accept
 auto), then I get the
 superblock error.
 

Audio cds are in cdda format.  It's not a regular
filesystem and there isn't a driver to mount them
with.You can copy them with cdrdao, rip them with
cdparanoia, play them with xmms-cdread, etc...

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RE: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Dave Nebinger
 cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -audio -pad *.wav

You cannot mount audio cd's under normal circumstances (there are some
exceptions to this general rule, but you normally have to install stuff in
order to get that functionality).

In the case where you mentioned that you could mount an audio cd, I would
bet it was a multimode cd that had data and audio tracks; the audio is used
by the cd player and the data tracks are used by the mount/iso 9660
filesystem.


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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Grant
 The discs that won't mount do play in a
  CD player just fine.  Any ideas?
 
 Are these then regular Redbook audio CDs you've burned? Those don't need
 to be mounted. Just put them into the drive, open your media player of
 choice and play them as you would a 'retail' audio CD.

Ok, but sometimes I have a written CDRW and I don't know what's on it.
 I guess I should try to mount it, if that fails, try to play it, if
that fails I've got bad data?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Fish
Grant wrote:

Ok, but sometimes I have a written CDRW and I don't know what's on it.
 I guess I should try to mount it, if that fails, try to play it, if
that fails I've got bad data?

  


Or follow my rule...no label, treat as blank.  It works in the office
too!  ;-

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk

2005-06-08 Thread Alec Shaner
Mark Knecht wrote:
 The typical reason for low performance AND high CPU is that the
 controller (in this case probably the USB interface chip) isn't
 enabled for DMA. It looked like you have the right drivers loaded so
 possibly the USB chip is not a major brand name? Sorry I didn't read
 earlier parts of this thread. What chipset is this? lspci -v and
 supply back the data on the USB chips.
 
 The next idea is that you have both the ehci and uhci drivers loaded.
 If somehow you got the drive plugged into a USB 1.0/1.1 port then
 you'd only get about 1MB/S. Did you try all your ports? They are not
 all the same on my Compaq and I do get better performance from the USB
 2.0 ports.
 
 Good luck,
 Mark
 

I recently purchased a WD 160GB external USB drive and can't get it to
perform reliably on my server. It works fine when connected to my
workstation machine (a P4P800 ASUS MB with USB 2.0 support). The server
only has 1.1 USB support, but the problem is that it starts out copying
fine at about 11MB/sec and then after a bit slows to a crawl and stays
that way. I have formatted it with an ext3 filesystem. Here's all the
info if anyone has an idea.

lspci -v:

:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1)
(rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3580
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
I/O ports at 2000 [size=32]

:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2)
(rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3580
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
I/O ports at 2020 [size=32]

:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3)
(rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3580
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
I/O ports at 2040 [size=32]

KERNEL config (2.6.11-gentoo-r9 #1 SMP)

CONFIG_USB=y
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB is not set

I guess there's no reason to have ECHI/OHCI turned on, but does that
matter? For the time being I am using NFS to access the drive (currently
connected to my workstation) from the server. I don't care much about
the speed difference from 1.1 to 2.0, this is just used as extra storage
for some low priority batch jobs.

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-- dhcp: host name lookup failure-- or -- Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-08 Thread Claus Ladekjær Wilson
Now I have put -d to the argument list in /etc/conf.d/net and I get the 
answer.
Next question: How do I tell the dhcp client where to find the host name?





Tirsdag den 7. juni 2005 23:29 skrev Zac Medico:
 --- Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4)
  connects immediately where as
  my present version takes about one minute. So I
  really miss to know what is
  wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could
  give an advice!

 /sbin/dhcpcd is the client program.  Maybe you can
 copy it from the other box just to see if there is a
 difference.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-08 Thread Mats Lidell

Kurt Guenther wrote:

Try this: 


emerge -p  gnome-applets

I found a package that was blocking the emerge (including one for gnome
menus).  I resolved this and emerged about 10 packages and my clock
applet is running.

Although, now I have a impossibly small font for my resolution
(1900x1200).  It seems that most of the gnome preferences menu items are
missing.


I had some gnome packages that was not at version 2.10. So the first 
things I tried was to upgrade gnome-applets and that did the trick for 
the clock applet. I then did a whole deep-update-newuse-thing so I 
guess most clues what might have been wrong are lost now. I have no 
problem with fonts etc. Only remaining problem seen so far is that the 
start-here icon does not work.


I had started a quest to remove evolution, by removing a few evolution 
packages, that might have caused the problem with the 
not-complete-gnome-to-2.10 update. But as I said the update probably 
removed all clues since it reinstalled evolution for me. (So I still 
have this path to go down if I dare try it again. ;.-) This time I will 
try to do it while not updating gnome at the same time.


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Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock

2005-06-08 Thread Daniel da Veiga
That's why I keep my soft pen always near my CDRWs and CDRs! I even
got a special one that is thin and so I write a complete description
instead of Audio 1 or Data 2 *lol*

Don't tell anyone, but once I spent 2 hours looking for a backup CD
for my boss (had to bring all CDs home to check each one), the damn
one was labeled RD 001, then I discovered that means Recover Data.
Tsc tsc.

On 6/8/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, but sometimes I have a written CDRW and I don't know what's on it.
   I guess I should try to mount it, if that fails, try to play it, if
  that fails I've got bad data?
  
  
  
 
  Or follow my rule...no label, treat as blank.  It works in the office
  too!  ;-
 
  -Richard
 
 Good point.
 
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Re: -- dhcp: host name lookup failure-- or -- Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-08 Thread Zac Medico
--- Claus Ladekj�r Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now I have put -d to the argument list in
 /etc/conf.d/net and I get the 
 answer.
 Next question: How do I tell the dhcp client where
 to find the host name?
 

What hostname? The client's hostname? That normally
goes in /etc/conf.d/hostname.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file

2005-06-08 Thread Christian Hoenig
Hi,

On Wednesday 08 June 2005 17:34, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 My world file seems remarkably long to me at 129 lines.
 I know I've added some stuff, but many of these entries
 ring no bells in my memory.

 I think a big part of what has happened is that in various
 throes of dealing with portage, I've emerged particular
 things without the --oneshot flag -- I had this system for
 quite a while before I even knew about that flag.

 So: is there an easy way to find out if a package can
 be removed from world because it is already in there
 as a dependency or because of the profile?  I'd like
 to pare world down to just the things that make a
 difference.

Yes, the tool available in [1] does this job pretty good!

Check the -sw switch for that.



take care, have fun
/christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-08 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS
always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the
future of development. I wouldn't worry about the Linux version
dissapear, the FREE version, OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of
spyware.

Besides, if you take a look at the license you agree when you use it
(and I am almost a lawyer), taking your freedom away is the least they
are doying. You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth
and CPU time for any anonymous purpose. I won't let them use my
computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a GREAT software,
but FREE?! *lol* don't be fooled, they are getting well paid, believe
me.

On 6/8/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability.
  But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to
  penetrate the market with their proprietary protocol- As soon
  as this happened, it is likely that the Linux version
  disappears.
 
 Why would they remove the Linux version?  That would mean less people
 will use and pay for their software.
 
  So, if you like your freedom, search for free alternatives,
  and if there are none, help building them. There already are
  alternatives like linphone, SFLphone or KPhone.
 
 Do those alternatives let you call normal phone lines?  It's hard to
 tell from these:
 
 http://www.linphone.org
 http://www.sflphone.org/
 http://www.wirlab.net/kphone/
 
 It looks like linphone and kphone are in portage but not sflphone?
 
 - Grant
 
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Re: -- dhcp: host name lookup failure-- or -- Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-08 Thread Zac Medico


--- Claus Ladekj�r Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - I have no such file - /etc/conf.d/hostname
 
 

With older versions of baselayout it was
/etc/hostname.

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