Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus
Ow Mun Heng wrote: Funny. I have 2.4.0 for gnome-common. So from my limited understanding of emerge I guess I have some work getting the portage tree in sync. (Maybe it is time for an emerge --update --deep --newuse world !? I don't think a newuse is needed. What about gconf? is it 2.10? gconf was 2.10 but many gnome packages was not 2.10 like gnome-panel. Upgrading gnome-panel fixed the problem with the clock applet so I did the whole update-deep-newuse-thing which seems to have been a good thing anyway. I had the problem with the main-menu-icon which was in the bug-list and was solved by updating the icon-cache. I still have the problem with the start-here icon on the desktop which when clicked results in the pop up Couldn't display start-here:///. But that is something I can live with at the moment anyway. Before the upgrade I was in the process of removing evolution. Could it be that I had some dependencies left from the unmerged package that caused emerge to have problems when upgrading? Evolution came back in anyway as a result of the update---thing. Yours -- %% Mats -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Port 512/Comsat and Sendmail or Fetchmail hangs
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 23:12 -0400, A. Khattri wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote: The process would hang at at the input of each mail for a short (but very noticable) period while it tries to connect to port 512/comsat. /etc/services states that this port is for new-mail notification (biff). I don't have biff enabled and thus I wonder what/why is it that it's trying to contact it. I'm not even sure if it's a fetchmail issue or it's a sendmail issue. The first link might (just maybe) have some useful info: http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=fetchmail+port+512+comsatie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 I would try googling but since I don't have I-Net access at work.. it's kinda hard. But thanks. I'll take a look at it when I'm home. If anyone knows it off-hand right now, please do tell. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:26:17 up 1:38, 4 users, load average: 1.04, 0.78, 0.44 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0, so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the moment). the local store is willing to install a SMC one for a good price. my only concern is the brand. ethernet is very well understood and I just need plain-vanilla, but I don't want to have to fiddle with anything, configuring hardware or whatever, if the hardware doesn't run well under linux. does the brand matter, or will anything that says ethernet fit the bill? I'll be plugging a telephone adapter into one of the NIC's for VOIP, the other NIC provides the internet connection (via an asus 802.11b adapter which plugs into an RJ-45 port). pardon, but the need for VOIP is urgent and great, so researching this well doesn't seem to be an option. thanks, Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 18:00, Christoph Eckert wrote: my konqueror does not support the protocol devices. Which library am I missing? maybe emerge -pv kdebase will show you use flags which have been disabled during compile time? It doesn't really reveal anything interesting: [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.0-r1 +arts +cups -debug -hal -ieee1394 +java -kdeenablefinal +ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse +opengl +pam -samba +ssl -xinerama 0 kB Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Module parameters
Hi, To keep a networkcard in 100mbit full duplex i have put a line in /etc/modules.conf. Now hte next time this machine is rebooted will it use this parameters or must i do something extra? TIA Patrick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
--- Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2005 18:00, Christoph Eckert wrote: my konqueror does not support the protocol devices. Which library am I missing? maybe emerge -pv kdebase will show you use flags which have been disabled during compile time? It doesn't really reveal anything interesting: [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.0-r1 +arts +cups -debug -hal -ieee1394 +java -kdeenablefinal +ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse +opengl +pam -samba +ssl -xinerama 0 kB Uwe In kDE 3.4 it's been replaced with media:/ and it works for me. It is not affected by USE flags. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:48:29 -0700, Pingveno wrote: Is there a way I can build a CD with a Gentoo-compatible version of distcc? You could build your own Live CD, that way you get all the tools you need and you can keep the versions in sync with your other system. There is an excellent HOWTO on the forums. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-244837-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html -- Neil Bothwick K: (n., adj.) a binary thousand, which isn't a decimal thousand or even really a binary thousand (which is eight), but is the binary number closest to a decimal thousand. This has proven so completely confusing that is has become a standard. pgpBPul7HaaOm.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)
Hi, I just redid my stage1 install. Everything went normal until I got to the emerge --emptytree world part in the handbook (section 6.d). The emerge failed when dbus-0.23-rc3 was installed. The ebuild tried to add the group 'messagebus' to the system but then I got: /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716: 'groupadd': command not found. Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue with my installation or should some portage script be fixed first? Thanks, jules -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
--- THUFIR HAWAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0, so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the moment). the local store is willing to install a SMC one for a good price. my only concern is the brand. ethernet is very well understood and I just need plain-vanilla, but I don't want to have to fiddle with anything, configuring hardware or whatever, if the hardware doesn't run well under linux. does the brand matter, or will anything that says ethernet fit the bill? I'll be plugging a telephone adapter into one of the NIC's for VOIP, the other NIC provides the internet connection (via an asus 802.11b adapter which plugs into an RJ-45 port). pardon, but the need for VOIP is urgent and great, so researching this well doesn't seem to be an option. thanks, Thufir linuxcompatible.org has a hardware compatiblility database. AFAIK most work but some don't. If your local store doesn't know maybe they will let you test with a livecd before you buy. Zac __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:42:56 +0100, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: the local store is willing to install a SMC one for a good price. my only concern is the brand. ethernet is very well understood and I just need plain-vanilla, but I don't want to have to fiddle with anything, configuring hardware or whatever, if the hardware doesn't run well under linux. Just about any PCI ethernet card will do the job. Once it is installed, use lspci to find out which card it is and Google will tell you which driver to use. Add it to your kernel config and you are sorted. pardon, but the need for VOIP is urgent and great, so researching this well doesn't seem to be an option. If your need is great, surely research is more a necessity than an option? -- Neil Bothwick Data to Picard: 'No, Captain, I do NOT run WINDOWS!' pgp7ijPi91vTB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:34:04 -0700 (PDT), Zac Medico wrote: In kDE 3.4 it's been replaced with media:/ and it works for me. It is not affected by USE flags. Although you will need the hal USE flag if you want to use the auto- detection/mounting feature. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS,_HAL,_KDE_media:/ -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 005: Multitasking attempted - System confused pgpJk0HBODogr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:42 +0200, Jules Colding wrote: Hi, I just redid my stage1 install. Everything went normal until I got to the emerge --emptytree world part in the handbook (section 6.d). The emerge failed when dbus-0.23-rc3 was installed. The ebuild tried to add the group 'messagebus' to the system but then I got: /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716: 'groupadd': command not found. Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue with my installation or should some portage script be fixed first? BTW: My make.conf is: # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built this stage # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.no/ http://gentoo.prz.rzeszow.pl http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo ftp://mirror.pudas.net/gentoo; SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=-qt -kde -oggvorbis -encode -xmms -mad -mp3 -mikmod -flac -esd -arts -avi -alsa -oss nptl fbcon gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 emacs tetex -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)
--- Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just redid my stage1 install. Everything went normal until I got to the emerge --emptytree world part in the handbook (section 6.d). The emerge failed when dbus-0.23-rc3 was installed. The ebuild tried to add the group 'messagebus' to the system but then I got: /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716: 'groupadd': command not found. Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue with my installation or should some portage script be fixed first? That's strange. The /usr/sbin/groupadd program belongs to sys-apps/shadow. It's really not there? If not then emerge --oneshot sys-apps/shadow should fix it. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:36:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hmm... That leads to a gross inconsistency because the sidebar offers devices resulting in that error message that konqueror doesn't support the protocol devices. You're right. I suspect that this is left over from a previous installation of KDE 3.4. It is easy enough to change it to media. Plus, media:/ doesn't seem to notice hot pluggable devices. Because you merged without the hal USE flag, or you are not running hald. -- Neil Bothwick Downloading - A quick way of catching a virus from anywhere in the world. pgpO2Oyrd2LuS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New stage1 install failed (groupadd not found)
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 11:10 +0200, Jules Colding wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 01:35 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 716: 'groupadd': command not found. Can I emerge a package with groupadd and continue with my installation or should some portage script be fixed first? That's strange. The /usr/sbin/groupadd program belongs to sys-apps/shadow. It's really not there? If not then emerge --oneshot sys-apps/shadow should fix it. No, it is not there. Isn't something very wrong? It seems to me that sys-apps/shadow is a very important package to miss in a stage1 install. Anyway to make the emerge --emptytree system resume from were it left after I did the '--oneshot'? emerge --resume doesn't have anything to resume, so do I need to do the '--emptytree' all over again? Thanks, jules -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module parameters
Patrick Marquetecken wrote: To keep a networkcard in 100mbit full duplex i have put a line in /etc/modules.conf. Now hte next time this machine is rebooted will it use this parameters or must i do something extra? AFAIK /etc/modules.conf is generated from update-modules. Edit /etc/modules.d/somefile and run update-modules. Then reboot (or rmmod and modprobe). Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't make a local login when no LDAP server can be reached
Hi, i successfully setted up some LDAP servers which are slurping, I also can login to my machines whom I told to accept LDAP useraccounts, now i found out that it isnt possible to log in locally with root when no LDAP server can be reached, for example when i remove the network cable. I can enter root for user and the pass but then after 60 seconds it tells me login timed out :( Here's my /etc/pam.d/system-auth file authrequired/lib/security/pam_env.so authsufficient /lib/security/pam_unix.so likeauth nullok shadow authsufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_first_pass authrequired/lib/security/pam_deny.so account required /lib/security/pam_unix.so account sufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so passwordrequired /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 passwordsufficient /lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok shadow md5 passwordsufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_authtok passwordrequired /lib/security/pam_deny.so session required/lib/security/pam_limits.so session required/lib/security/pam_unix.so session required /lib/security/pam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=0 session optional/lib/security/pam_ldap.so and here's my nsswitch.conf passwd: files ldap shadow: files ldap group: files ldap hosts: files dns networks:files dns Any1 got an Idea? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf bin does not exist
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had xpdf installed for some time but haven't used it for a couple of weeks so don't really know which version caused me the problem...I now notice that the xpdf executable that used to be in /usr/bin no longer exists. I did a search through the forums and found that I wasn't alone. However, all of the solutions listed in the forums involved openmotif or the xprint use flag or both. I have followed all of their suggestions including re-emerging xorg, openmotif and xpdf in any number of combinations. The result is the sameno xpdf bin file. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Hi reg, You need to run motif-config before you merge xpdf with USE=-nomotif. You can use either openmotif or lesstif and this is how you choose. Zac Thanks Zac but that didn't do it. When I run (as root), motif-config -l, I get this [1] openmotif-2.2 * so I do (also as root) motif-config -s openmotif-2.2 and I get rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory ln: `/usr/include/Mrm/Mrm': File exists rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory ln: `/usr/include/uil/uil': File exists rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory ln: `/usr/include/Xm/Xm': File exists * /usr/bin/motif-config: New default Profile is: openmotif-2.2 after which I do USE=-nomotif emerge xpdf and in amongs the spillage on the screen I get configure: WARNING: Couldn't find X / Motif -- you will be able to compile pdftops, pdftotext, pdfinfo, pdffonts, pdftoppm, and pdfimages, but not xpdf So obviously something is not right with the openmotif install. Maybe it is this particular version of openmotif as I used to use xpdf all the time without incident. I will have to go through the emerge.log and find out when this version was installed. In the meantime, any other suggestions would be appreciated. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] majordomo issue
Hi! I have a problem with majordomo. Everything had been ok until recently when it stopped working. The log says that user majordomo is not able to write to /usr/tmp but this folder has 777 mod set on it. I was thinking that my mail server was badly configured, however I can send and receive mails. Thanks for suggestions. q-parser -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf bin does not exist
I have had xpdf installed for some time but haven't used it for a couple of weeks so don't really know which version caused me the problem...I now notice that the xpdf executable that used to be in /usr/bin no longer exists. snip You need to run motif-config before you merge xpdf with USE=-nomotif. You can use either openmotif or lesstif and this is how you choose. Zac Thanks Zac but that didn't do it. When I run (as root), motif-config -l, I get this [1] openmotif-2.2 * so I do (also as root) motif-config -s openmotif-2.2 and I get rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Mrm': Is a directory ln: `/usr/include/Mrm/Mrm': File exists rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/uil': Is a directory ln: `/usr/include/uil/uil': File exists rm: cannot remove `/usr/include/Xm': Is a directory ln: `/usr/include/Xm/Xm': File exists * /usr/bin/motif-config: New default Profile is: openmotif-2.2 after which I do USE=-nomotif emerge xpdf and in amongs the spillage on the screen I get configure: WARNING: Couldn't find X / Motif -- you will be able to compile pdftops, pdftotext, pdfinfo, pdffonts, pdftoppm, and pdfimages, but not xpdf Umerged openmotif, removed the /usr/include/Mrm, /usr/include/uil and /usr/include/Xm directories, remerged openmotif, remerged xpf and all is back to normal. So does that mean that motif-config needs to be fixed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0, so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the moment). My one piece of advice is to avoid RealTek chipsets (usually RTL-8139). These are the winmodems of the network world. Most of their processing is done by software, not in hardware. -- That which does not kill me makes me stranger () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto
Christoph Eckert schreef: Even if you're not running KDE you can install arts standalone and start it via any login script. Dunno where esound can get started. rc-update in other words, rc-update add esound default . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
Marshal Newrock wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: I urgently need a second ethernet (RJ-45 telephone-looking type) NIC in my computer, which is about a year old, el cheapo but with USB 2.0, so decent for my needs (sorry, don't have mother board details at the moment). My one piece of advice is to avoid RealTek chipsets (usually RTL-8139). These are the winmodems of the network world. Most of their processing is done by software, not in hardware. I've got about 10 Intel Pro/100 (Server, Desktop and Management variants) running across 3 servers and 3 desktop systems. I haven't has a problem with them in the 3 years I've been using them, they're well supported though the Becker driver (eepro100) and the Intel standard driver (e100). Plus with the e100 I think some processing can be off-loaded onto the card itself. You can pick them up on eBay for next to nothing - usually a few quid a card on BuyItNow options - you'll probably have it within a day or two, brand new. -- Jonathan Wright mail at djnauk.co.uk // life has no meaning unless we can enjoy what we've been given // running gentoo ~ 2.6.11-gentoo-r6-djnauk-b2 i686 AMD Athlon XP 2100+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc
Another solution could be to run distcc in colinux on your Windows box, that's I do home. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/colinux-howto.xml Just be sure to have Windows XP Pro edition, Windows XP home doesn't work for me... Laurent Marchal -Original Message- From: Pingveno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mercredi 8 juin 2005 6:48 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc I'm running two computers in my house, one 550 MHz Pentium 3 and one 3 GHz Pentium 4. The slow one is running Gentoo Linux, while the fast one is running Windows. I'd like to put together a LiveCD that can run distcc on the faster computer just via a reboot. There's a Knoppix mod with distcc, but apparently there are problems because of the version of gcc that Debian uses. Gentoo has some extra patches for better security, which can conflict with the Debian version of gcc. Is there a way I can build a CD with a Gentoo-compatible version of distcc? -- I have balls. They're metaphorical, but they're mine. - Holly Bostick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list - Visit our website! http://www.nbb.beDISCLAIMER: The content of this e-mail message should not be construed as binding on the part of the National Bank of Belgium (NBB) unless otherwise and previously stated. The opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect NBB viewpoints, particularly when the content of this message, or part thereof, is private by nature or does not fall within the professional scope of its author. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus
Mats Lidell wrote: 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet. Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false I'm also having problems with my ClockApplet. I did the same emerge, and I do have my menus. Any resolution? --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus
Mats Lidell wrote: 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet. Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false 2. Do you also have evolution? This may be a common thread. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus
Mats Lidell wrote: 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet. Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false Opened Bug 95442 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc
On 6/8/05, Marchal Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another solution could be to run distcc in colinux on your Windows box, that's I do home. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/colinux-howto.xml Just be sure to have Windows XP Pro edition, Windows XP home doesn't work for me... Laurent Marchal there is also an article in the Gentoo-Wiki about running distcc in Windows via cygwin: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Distcc_server_on_Windows The process is pretty long and tedious, so be warned, but it seems to work. Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gthumb GTK error
Grant wrote: To me this looks like a simple case of not being in X when trying to run an X-based application. Trying starting X (most likely you run gnome) then try to run gthumb. Huh, I logged out of root and I can run gthumb as a normal user just fine. Not as root though. Weird. try running `xhost +local:` from your user console. Then you should be able to run it as root. btw, I can run as root. I'm not sure what the diff is. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?
Mark Knecht wrote: Hello, I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere else I should look? Thanks, Mark If its once per hour, its probably hourly crons running then. My laptop behaved itself when i was running linux on it - rarely spinning teh disk up at all. Can't say the same for my desktop however. :) -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
fire-eyes schreef: When performing an emerge -pv world on an x86 server, I got this today: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-libs/pam-0.78 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - sys-libs/pam-0.78-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - sys-libs/pam-0.78 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or section 2.2 Software Availability in the Gentoo Handbook. !!!(dependency required by net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.10-r5 [ebuild]) !!! Problem with ebuild net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.10-r5 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. I am not quite sure what I should do. Unmask something, for use on a server? I don't think so... Does anyone have any ideas, perhaps I made an error in the recent past that caused this? Or, maybe I'm not alone? This isn't an error-- certainly nothing you've done. It's just information inviting you to specify how you want to configure your machine. The version of proftpd you are trying to install depends on a version of PAM that is not available to install (because it is masked by ~arch). Proftpd 1.2.10-r5 is also ~arch, according to eix. So you've unmasked the program, but not its dependency, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense :-) . Either unmask pam, remove pam from the use flags for this package (echo 'net-ftp/proftpd -pam /etc/portage/package.use) so that the package no longer depends on PAM at all, or remask proftpd and install the x86 version, which will presumably depend on a stable version of PAM. Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Mark Knecht wrote: I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere else I should look? Laptop mode prevents the drive spinning up when a process writes to the disk. However, in its default configuration, it is configured to flush the cached writes after a maximum of 600 seconds (MAX_AGE). On my laptop, this means that the drive does spin up about every 10 minues. Your could try enabling block dumping in the kernel: echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump After that, the kernel will dump every block read and write to the kernel log. This might allow you to identify which file is accessed and which process causes the access. Note that you better switch off any logger before doing that (or at least log through the network), otherwise you'll see all the writes from the logger itself... HTH. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system
Hi! Richard Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I last rebuilt everything, I did it by: emerge --emptytree --pretend world \ | grep / \ | awk -F']' '{ print $2 }' buildlist.txt for x in `cat buildlist.txt`; do emerge --oneshot $x if test $? -ne 0; then echo package $x failed break fi done Is that actually, what you used? Shouldn't it rather be: emerge --oneshot =$x Because, when I tried your script, I got: Calculating dependencies !!! Problem in sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 dependencies. !!! Specific key requires an operator (sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1) (try adding an '=') exceptions Regards, Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 8, 2005 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mark Knecht wrote: Hello, I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere else I should look? Thanks, Mark If its once per hour, its probably hourly crons running then. My laptop behaved itself when i was running linux on it - rarely spinning teh disk up at all. Can't say the same for my desktop however. :) But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run? Thanks, Mark signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] depclean sane?
How are these for depcleaning? sys-libs/lib-compat media-libs/libao sys-fs/device-mapper sys-fs/cryptsetup app-shells/sash app-text/gtkspell media-libs/t1lib app-arch/ncompress - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] photo management
To me, it's not a focus on gentopia. Gentopia is Gentoo's version of the project utopia stack (which is more GNOME specific). for example, gamin is the successor to famd which works more efficiently based on inotify. gnome-volume-manager for example works with gamin + udev + hal + dbus to make all the necessary messages to make things smooth much like a Mac right now. I don't think gentopia will be default for gentoo, but I do think it will be for Gnome. To me, gentoo isn't really for the masses, for those we have Ubuntu/Knoppix/Fedora. But don't you think all computer systems are moving toward that type of functionality, although some more quickly and more directly than others? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Thanks Remy. I'll investigate some of these settings. As I sat here at 6:48AM (roughly) the drive spun up again. I was watching 'top' but couldn't tell what process used more CPU. One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is not totally operational since I would never be on battery? I'm trying changing this to '1' and seeing what happens. cheers, Mark On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere else I should look? Laptop mode prevents the drive spinning up when a process writes to the disk. However, in its default configuration, it is configured to flush the cached writes after a maximum of 600 seconds (MAX_AGE). On my laptop, this means that the drive does spin up about every 10 minues. Your could try enabling block dumping in the kernel: echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump After that, the kernel will dump every block read and write to the kernel log. This might allow you to identify which file is accessed and which process causes the access. Note that you better switch off any logger before doing that (or at least log through the network), otherwise you'll see all the writes from the logger itself... HTH. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system
Check out emwrap in the forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html With emwrap you can rebuild your entire system, including the toolchain, correctly. Hope it helps, I think it's great. -Matt- On 6/8/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Richard Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I last rebuilt everything, I did it by: emerge --emptytree --pretend world \ | grep / \ | awk -F']' '{ print $2 }' buildlist.txt for x in `cat buildlist.txt`; do emerge --oneshot $x if test $? -ne 0; then echo package $x failed break fi done Is that actually, what you used? Shouldn't it rather be: emerge --oneshot =$x Because, when I tried your script, I got: Calculating dependencies !!! Problem in sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1 dependencies. !!! Specific key requires an operator (sys-devel/patch-2.5.9-r1) (try adding an '=') exceptions Regards, Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?
On 6/8/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are these for depcleaning? sys-libs/lib-compat media-libs/libao sys-fs/device-mapper sys-fs/cryptsetup app-shells/sash app-text/gtkspell media-libs/t1lib app-arch/ncompress - Grant Of these only t1lib appeared in my world file. You could go through the basic process like this: 1) emerge --update --deep --newuse world until everythign is clean and up to date. 2) emerge -C gtkspell 3) revdep-rebuild -p and look at what it's saying. Don't worry about failures on openoffice-bin or other binary downloads. Basically go around the loop removing one or two and seeing how it goes. If revdep-rebuild sees a problem then you'll re-emerge what you need and be clean. Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Richard Fish wrote: Your best bet is probably emerge --emptytree world. That will basically emerge the current version of world and all dependancies. Nothing will be built twice. If you have packages in world file with more versions in more slots, then only the newest version will be recompiled. For example old KDE versions wouldn't be recompiled. Cheers, Tamas Sarga Srga Tams -- Make the world confused!Zavard ssze a vilgot! Smile on monday morning!Mosolyogj htf reggel! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] photo management
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 07:02 -0700, Grant wrote: To me, it's not a focus on gentopia. Gentopia is Gentoo's version of the project utopia stack (which is more GNOME specific). for example, gamin is the successor to famd which works more efficiently based on inotify. gnome-volume-manager for example works with gamin + udev + hal + dbus to make all the necessary messages to make things smooth much like a Mac right now. I don't think gentopia will be default for gentoo, but I do think it will be for Gnome. To me, gentoo isn't really for the masses, for those we have Ubuntu/Knoppix/Fedora. But don't you think all computer systems are moving toward that type of functionality, although some more quickly and more directly than others? Well I think your and my answer has already answered that. I stated that gnome will have it. You stated that all comp sys are moving towards that. What more can I say? Don't use Gnome? Don't use computers? but the thing is, with Gentoo, we can still choose. right? (please.. someone re-assure me!!) -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 22:25:05 up 10:37, 8 users, load average: 0.84, 1.33, 1.24 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] photo management
On 6/8/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (please.. someone re-assure me!!) You are hereby reassured. ;-) - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 07:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks Remy. I'll investigate some of these settings. As I sat here at 6:48AM (roughly) the drive spun up again. I was watching 'top' but couldn't tell what process used more CPU. you can choose to use debug more in laptop mode. #echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump and by the way, it should be which process used the HD isn't it? [This is what happens when ppl top post and I don't read the bottom post to reply 1st. So.. I answered the question again. Oh well.. since it's already written] One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP This is just a detection mech. Even though it says it will disable it, I don't think it's really doing that. Because there's no cron-job to check the remaining level etc. Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is not totally operational since I would never be on battery? I'm trying changing this to '1' and seeing what happens. cheers, Mark On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I'm experimenting with leaving a drive turned off in a MythTV frontend. I have laptop_mode turned on with whatever it has for default settings. I have vixie-cron turned off. Once an hour it seems that the drive still spins up for about 1 minute. How can I find what's causing that and at least make it more infrequent? I see nothing in /var/log/messages nor anything in dmesg. Is there somewhere else I should look? Laptop mode prevents the drive spinning up when a process writes to the disk. However, in its default configuration, it is configured to flush the cached writes after a maximum of 600 seconds (MAX_AGE). On my laptop, this means that the drive does spin up about every 10 minues. Your could try enabling block dumping in the kernel: echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump After that, the kernel will dump every block read and write to the kernel log. This might allow you to identify which file is accessed and which process causes the access. Note that you better switch off any logger before doing that (or at least log through the network), otherwise you'll see all the writes from the logger itself... -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 22:25:30 up 10:38, 8 users, load average: 1.35, 1.40, 1.26 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
On 6/8/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Just wanted to say this.. El-Cheapo cards will work, but may not be as full-featured or as fast throughput as the more expensive 3com cards. eg: USD6 Dlink vs USD25 3com. One Dlink I got was absolutely horrible. It will hang after a while and then everything will stop. Once changed the card, it's OK. I think this was a realtek chipset which caused the issue. But in general, my experience is, if it's not for too much heavy duty work, el-cheapo will be good enough. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:44:11 up 5:56, 6 users, load average: 1.16, 1.13, 0.85 thank you so much, all. I have enough to go on to make some phone calls and ask the right questions to get this done today, hopefully. this need came up very suddenly so the advice on this list has been fantastic and much appreciated. thank you, Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
Ramón Gutiérrez wrote: go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 * case sensitive -- Ramon Gutierrez no don't go, stay with us -- . These pages are best viewed by coming to my house and looking at . . my monitor. [S. Lucas Bergman (on his website)]. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:58:52 -0400, Ramón Gutiérrez wrote: go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 * The words sledgehammer and nut spring to mind... -- Neil Bothwick Beware of cover disks bearing upgrades. pgpqlaJMRgS41.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On 6/8/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 07:03 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks Remy. I'll investigate some of these settings. As I sat here at 6:48AM (roughly) the drive spun up again. I was watching 'top' but couldn't tell what process used more CPU. you can choose to use debug more in laptop mode. #echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump Maybe I don't have something configured correctly in the kernel? this didn't work. myth11 root # echo 1/proc/sys/vm/block_dump myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump 0 myth11 root # and by the way, it should be which process used the HD isn't it? chuckle Well, yes, true, but my thought was that nothing would use the HD without using the CPU. Clearly I Was wrong or it wasn't enough to push it up and make it visible. [This is what happens when ppl top post and I don't read the bottom post to reply 1st. So.. I answered the question again. Oh well.. since it's already written] Yeah, sorry... One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP This is just a detection mech. Even though it says it will disable it, I don't think it's really doing that. Because there's no cron-job to check the remaining level etc. Uhdoes that mean that cron needs to be running to use laptop_mode or only to check the battery, etc.? I looked at crontab -u root/nobody/mark and there were no entries so I figured I could try turning it off. I had not et figured out how to determine all the users that might possibly have crontab's. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Mark Knecht wrote: One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is not totally operational since I would never be on battery? I'm trying changing this to '1' and seeing what happens. You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with: cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea why it's not 1). Moreover, if your filesystem is ext3, a mount shows the following: /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,user_xattr,commit=600) where the important part is the option commit=600, the value being your MAX_AGE parameter. If laptop_mode is disabled, the parameter is either absent or commit=0. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
I'd highly recommend you don't add ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to your make file, as this will cause your system to emerge with all ~x86 (testing/unstable) packages upon next emerge. Add this to your /etc/portage/package.keywords: =sys-libs/pam-0.78 then emerge -pv again. On 6/8/05, Bastian Balthazar Bux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ramón Gutiérrez wrote: go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 * case sensitive -- Ramon Gutierrez no don't go, stay with us -- . These pages are best viewed by coming to my house and looking at . . my monitor. [S. Lucas Bergman (on his website)]. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- - Mark Shields -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is not totally operational since I would never be on battery? I'm trying changing this to '1' and seeing what happens. You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with: cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea why it's not 1). Mine says '2' also: myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode 2 myth11 root # Moreover, if your filesystem is ext3, a mount shows the following: /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,user_xattr,commit=600) where the important part is the option commit=600, the value being your MAX_AGE parameter. If laptop_mode is disabled, the parameter is either absent or commit=0. So it aappears here to be enabled: myth11 root # mount /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev type ramfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) myth11 root # So this should be spinning the drive up every 10 minutes? I don't think that's happening but I'll watch it carefully for another 30 minutes. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 17:31 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is not totally operational since I would never be on battery? I'm trying changing this to '1' and seeing what happens. You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with: cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea why it's not 1). Moreover, if your filesystem is ext3, a mount shows the following: /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,user_xattr,commit=600) where the important part is the option commit=600, the value being your MAX_AGE parameter. If laptop_mode is disabled, the parameter is either absent or commit=0. If you really want to learn more about power management in Linux, I suggest you google for laptop_mode or you can read the article in the spanking new MyOSS Magazine at http://mag.my-opensource.org which lists all the links in one place for your perusal. otherwise.. try cat /usr/share/doc/laptop[tab]/laptop-mode.gz -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 00:02:49 up 12:15, 9 users, load average: 0.60, 0.54, 0.53 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:34:34 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So: is there an easy way to find out if a package can be removed from world because it is already in there as a dependency or because of the profile? I'd like to pare world down to just the things that make a difference. Remove the line from the world file and run emerge depclean -p If depclean wants to remove it, it was probably installed as a dependency of something you no longer have. You can also use equery depends ,packagename to find what packages depend on it. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 007: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware pgpnMi5W8hH49.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 08:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On 6/8/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: One setting I noticed rereading the config file was this one: SNIP Enable laptop mode always, not just when on battery? # (This will still disable laptop mode when the battery almost runs out.) LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON=0 SNIP Since it's a desktop machine it would seem that maybe laptop mode is not totally operational since I would never be on battery? I'm trying changing this to '1' and seeing what happens. You can check if laptop_mode is enabled with: cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode My desktop says 0 (disabled), and my laptop says 2 (enabled, but no idea why it's not 1). Mine says '2' also: myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode 2 myth11 root # Mine says 0 (cause I'm on AC right now) on Battery it changes to 2 /usr/sbin/laptop_mode case $KLEVEL in 2.4) echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode echo 30 500 0 0 $AGE $AGE 60 20 0 /proc/sys/vm/bdflush ;; 2.6) echo $LM_SECONDS_BEFORE_SYNC /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode where LM_Seconds is 2 /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,commit=600) So this should be spinning the drive up every 10 minutes? I don't think that's happening but I'll watch it carefully for another 30 minutes. The 10 minutes is a guide only. It just tries to collect all the writes and make it write only once. Try this script if you want to find out what's happening or how long is the spinup/down. $ cat HDtest.sh #!/bin/sh c0=0 c1=0 n=0 f0=standby d0=`date +%s` while true do f1=`hdparm -C /dev/hda | grep 'drive state' | awk '{print $4}'` if test $f0 != $f1 then d1=`date +%s` c=`expr $d1 - $d0` if test $f0 = standby then c0=`expr $c0 + $c` else c1=`expr $c1 + $c` n=`expr $n + 1` fi echo [`date +%X`] $c seconds in $f0 mode. ($c0 s standby/$c1 s active/$n spinups) f0=$f1 d0=$d1 fi sleep 1 done -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 00:10:54 up 12:23, 10 users, load average: 0.56, 0.62, 0.56 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash
thank you. On 6/8/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/7/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guys I had installed splashutils and I confess I am totally lost :( . where can I find information about it ? Possibly here? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
OK, I give. How do you configure media? I tried: * Add New | Web SideBar Module ** Name = Media ** URL = media:/ But this gives a An error occurred while loading media:/; Malformed URL media:/. when clicked. TIA, Roy Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:36:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hmm... That leads to a gross inconsistency because the sidebar offers devices resulting in that error message that konqueror doesn't support the protocol devices. You're right. I suspect that this is left over from a previous installation of KDE 3.4. It is easy enough to change it to media. Plus, media:/ doesn't seem to notice hot pluggable devices. Because you merged without the hal USE flag, or you are not running hald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
Mark Shields schreef: I'd highly recommend you don't add ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to your make file, as this will cause your system to emerge with all ~x86 (testing/unstable) packages upon next emerge. Add this to your /etc/portage/package.keywords: =sys-libs/pam-0.78 then emerge -pv again. I agree that adding ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 is a bad idea if you want to run a (mostly) stable system, but *unmasking PAM is not the only solution!!!* PAM is an *optional* dependency; you can compile the program -pam and still use the unstable proftpd without having to also use an unstable PAM. I admit that I don't know how proftpd will react if the system as a whole is not PAM-free (like mine), but it itself is but since it is optional, it ought to work OK anyway (if PAM was a required dependency for the package, there wouldn't be a USE flag for it; it would just be installed). Or one could just use a stable version of proftpd which would not require an update to PAM, but instead use the version of PAM currently installed. Under Linux, if there's not at least two ways to do something, there's something wrong but under Gentoo, if there's not at least three ways to do something, you've (probably) missed (at least) one. :) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
My one piece of advice is to avoid RealTek chipsets (usually RTL-8139). These are the winmodems of the network world. Most of their processing is done by software, not in hardware. Been solid as a rock for me for ages now (is that 8139too?)... I occasionally shift dvd images around but nothing more serious than that though... Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run? What else is running? Maybe you can run ps -ef and show us the output? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote: El-Cheapo cards will work, but may not be as full-featured or as fast throughput as the more expensive 3com cards. eg: USD6 Dlink vs USD25 3com. Speaking from the server side of the fence, we swear by Intel eepro cards. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:31:52 -0500, Roy Wright wrote: OK, I give. How do you configure media? I tried: * Add New | Web SideBar Module ** Name = Media ** URL = media:/ But this gives a An error occurred while loading media:/; Malformed URL media:/. when clicked. I just right-clicked the devices item, selected Properties and changed the URL to media:/ Does media:/ work if you type it in the location bar? -- Neil Bothwick A closed mouth gathers no foot. pgpwAGP0V2oDu.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
Hello, I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no matter what I emerge, the error looks like this: ..etc/ebuild.sh ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips? P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc/Live CD's are Wonderfull
At 10:49 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote: --- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am slowly but surely rescuing my Gentoo System with the latest Live CD. It is truly a miracle to have this tool, but you need to take some time experimenting with how to use it, For example, mounting boot and root partitions and the proc system. I will soon have my system up and running but I had to go in and remove the * from my passwd file using vipw so that I could get into the new system. I am still getting messages of segmentation fault after I perform certain operations. I am not sure what is causing that, but the cure is to re untar the stage-3 tarball onto my Gentoo partition. Anyway I lost my Grub disk, so I am taking a vacation until I find it. I am a disabled hacker who has no short term memory, so whenever I lose something, I have to take on an orthagonal persuit, haha. God Bless, Rob. Are you serious about not having short term memory? That must be difficult. Bless you too, Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Zac, I am pleased to meet you here on this wonderful list. Oh, this is OT, but perhaps not for the Absent Minded Professor Type hacker. Remember that there is a fine line between genious and insanity, LOL, per Nikola Tesla, my phantom mentor. Yes, it seems to be true, no short term memory. Yesterday I got my Disabled Motorist Permit, so I can park right next to the mall or store. If I venture out into the parking lot, I lose my car. It is a green Camry so it looks like 1000 other cars, so I have to contact security and they come help me find my car. It is not so bad as my doctors have competing theories. 1. Theory is that I burnt out my short term memory using drugs and alcohol, LOL. I have been clean and sober for years now, but I am 43 years old. 2. Theory is that since driving and parking is primarily an unconcious activity, I am unconsciously parking and not REGISTERING my car's location in memory. Thus it is always lost when I go to find it. Thus the solution is to sit in my car an meditate after parking so that suddenly I am living in the moment and the car location REGISTRATES in my brain. I am going to try this last procedure, as I don't want to be having Alzheimer's disease in my 40's. Thanks for all who listen. Now you know alot about me and who I am here in Hillsboro, Oregon, where all sun is liquid sunshine i.e rain, haha. I am Rob, disabled Berkeley BSEE, now turned Gentoo Linux hacker. I hope I can have coffee with Linus the next time he is up here. He works only 3 miles from where I live. Best regards, and sorry for this very OT OT subject. Sincerely, Rob N3FT -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?
On 6/8/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run? What else is running? Maybe you can run ps -ef and show us the output? Hi - here you go. myth11 root # ps -ef UIDPID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD root 1 0 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 init [3] root 2 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 3 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [events/0] root 4 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [khelper] root 9 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kthread] root19 9 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kacpid] root 100 9 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kblockd/0] root 113 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [khubd] root 184 9 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [pdflush] root 185 9 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [pdflush] root 186 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kswapd0] root 187 9 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [aio/0] root 773 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kseriod] root 869 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 [kjournald] root 919 1 0 10:18 ?00:00:00 udevd root 5341 1 0 10:19 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng root 5863 1 0 10:19 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 5887 1 0 10:19 ?00:00:00 login -- mark root 5892 1 0 10:19 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux root 5893 1 0 10:19 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux root 5894 1 0 10:19 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux root 5895 1 0 10:19 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux root 5896 1 0 10:19 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux mark 5963 5887 0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 -bash mark 5969 5963 0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx mark 5980 5969 0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 xinit /home/mark/.xinitrc -- -nolisten tcp -br -defroot 5981 5980 3 10:20 ?00:00:03 X :0 -nolisten tcp -br -deferglyphs 16 mark 5991 5980 1 10:20 tty1 00:00:01 mythfrontend mark 5992 5991 0 10:20 tty1 00:00:00 fluxbox root 5997 5863 0 10:21 ?00:00:00 sshd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0 root 6003 5997 0 10:21 pts/000:00:00 -bash root 6008 6003 0 10:21 pts/000:00:00 ps -ef I suppose that one possibility is that mythfrontend itself could access the disk every so often for some reason. I should check on that if nothing else explains this 1 hour behaviour. Thanks! - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On 6/8/05, Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 08 June 2005 16:35, Mark Knecht wrote: myth11 root # echo 1/proc/sys/vm/block_dump myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump 0 [18:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] # echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/block_dump [18:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] # cat /proc/sys/vm/block_dump 1 Note the spaces. -- Peter I did not know that Peter. Thanks. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome. I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons. Do they just basically take some load from the CPU and put it in memory? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so take the 'cdboot' off the front of that. Nope. Now I get: mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - - But I have another question: At what point does vmlinuz(under /tmp/cdboot/boot)make it onto the CD? The path to stage2_eltorito seems to pass it by. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file
Mark Knecht wrote: On 6/8/05, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My world file seems remarkably long to me at 129 lines. I know I've added some stuff, but many of these entries ring no bells in my memory. I think a big part of what has happened is that in various throes of dealing with portage, I've emerged particular things without the --oneshot flag -- I had this system for quite a while before I even knew about that flag. So: is there an easy way to find out if a package can be removed from world because it is already in there as a dependency or because of the profile? I'd like to pare world down to just the things that make a difference. ++ kevin Hi Kevin, I don't know of an automated way to do it. I had to go through my machines by hand doing the emerge/depclean/revdep-rebuild process I outlined in an email on this subject to Grant this morning. It took me a while to get it done. Here is a script to do it: cat /var/lib/portage/world | \ while read line; do count=`equery depends $line | wc -l` test $count -gt 0 echo $line done This will output every package listed in world that is a dependancy of something else. Of course, you need a recent version of gentoolkit to get equery. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?
Grant wrote: How are these for depcleaning? sys-libs/lib-compat media-libs/libao sys-fs/device-mapper sys-fs/cryptsetup app-shells/sash app-text/gtkspell media-libs/t1lib app-arch/ncompress The only two that worry me are device-mapper and cryptsetup. If you are using LVM2 or dm-crypt, you need those, and should add them to world. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system
Alexander Skwar wrote: Is that actually, what you used? Shouldn't it rather be: emerge --oneshot =$x Yep, you're right. Looks like I need some 'ECC' memory... ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??
My solution was to mask the package: # media-video =media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664 =media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7664 I will try installing it again later. If all else fails, you can try this as well ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus
Kurt Guenther wrote: Mats Lidell wrote: 1. The clock applet: The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet. Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_8/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=x-small;locked_down=false Opened Bug 95442 Try this: emerge -p gnome-applets I found a package that was blocking the emerge (including one for gnome menus). I resolved this and emerged about 10 packages and my clock applet is running. Although, now I have a impossibly small font for my resolution (1900x1200). It seems that most of the gnome preferences menu items are missing. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?
How are these for depcleaning? sys-libs/lib-compat media-libs/libao sys-fs/device-mapper sys-fs/cryptsetup app-shells/sash app-text/gtkspell media-libs/t1lib app-arch/ncompress - Grant Of these only t1lib appeared in my world file. You could go through the basic process like this: 1) emerge --update --deep --newuse world until everythign is clean and up to date. 2) emerge -C gtkspell 3) revdep-rebuild -p and look at what it's saying. Don't worry about failures on openoffice-bin or other binary downloads. Basically go around the loop removing one or two and seeing how it goes. If revdep-rebuild sees a problem then you'll re-emerge what you need and be clean. Good luck, Mark It looks like gnutls needs to be re-emerged. Thanks! - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
When I try to mount CDRW discs I get: mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock but other discs mount fine. Does anyone know what that is about? Maybe I'm not burning them correctly? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome. I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons. http://www.skype.com/help/faq/linux.html »What sound system does Skype for Linux beta use? Skype for Linux beta uses OSS (Open Sound System), using /dev/dsp as its audio input and output device. It works fine also with ALSA and its OSS emulation layer. Native support for other sound systems will be added in the future.« This means: * No sounddemon gets used * ALSA doesn't get used (directly) * OSS gets used * But if you have ALSA installed it will work via the ALSA OSS emulation * If your card doesn't support hardware mixing (most consumer cards do not) only one application or soundserver can run on the card. If Skype blocks the card, you cannot use any other audio application * EVen with DMIX (ALSA software mixing plugin) it will be difficult because DMIX cannot handle transparently OSS requesting apps Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so take the 'cdboot' off the front of that. Nope. Now I get: mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - - You typod something. Looks like you put a space between the '-' and the first character of one of the options. # mkisofs - o /tmp/tmp.iso ./ mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - - # mkisofs -o /tmp/tmp.iso ./ Total translation table size: 0 Total rockridge attributes bytes: 0 Total directory bytes: 4096 Path table size(bytes): 34 Max brk space used 21000 1064 extents written (2 MB) But I have another question: At what point does vmlinuz(under /tmp/cdboot/boot)make it onto the CD? The path to stage2_eltorito seems to pass it by. When you run mkisofs, it creates an ISO (cdrom filesystem) image with all of the files in the cdboot directory. So, for example carcharias cdboot # find * ./boot ./boot/grub ./boot/grub/stage2_eltorito ./boot/grub/menu.lst ./boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz ./boot/vmlinuz Running mkisofs from this directory will create an ISO image with all of these files included. You then use cdrecord to write the ISO image to the CD. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
Ognjen Bezanov wrote: Hello, I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no matter what I emerge, the error looks like this: ..etc/ebuild.sh ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips? What are the permissions and ownership of the directory you are using for portage tmpdir. The defaults for /var/tmp are: carcharias cdboot # ls -ld /var/tmp drwxrwxrwt 8 root root 4096 Jun 8 18:09 /var/tmp Note that portage runs as user 'portage' while compiling stuff, so I am guessing the chosen directory will need to be writable by portage. P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address Ok, stupid question. If you don't trust your email address, how is cc'ing your _email address_ supposed to help? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What spins a drive up?
Mark Knecht wrote: On 6/8/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: But as I said vixie-cron is turned off. How could hourly crons run? What else is running? Maybe you can run ps -ef and show us the output? root 5341 1 0 10:19 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng Double check your /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf file. I find the following in mine: # The default action of syslog-ng 1.6.0 is to log a STATS line # to the file every 10 minutes. That's pretty ugly after a while. # Change it to every 12 hours so you get a nice daily update of # how many messages syslog-ng missed (0). stats(43200); If yours was set to 3600 for some reason, that would account for the 1 hour spinup. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto
Christoph Eckert wrote: There is an alsa plugin to allow any native alsa application to connect through the jack server. Unfortunately I've never been able to get acceptable sound quality using it this way I guess you mean bio2jack.sf.net? No, I mean 'media-plugins/alsa-jack'. No application changes are necessary if the app already knows alsa...it just appears as another output possibility and is configured in your .asoundrc file, like dmix. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file
On 6/8/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: Hi Kevin, I don't know of an automated way to do it. I had to go through my machines by hand doing the emerge/depclean/revdep-rebuild process I outlined in an email on this subject to Grant this morning. It took me a while to get it done. Here is a script to do it: cat /var/lib/portage/world | \ while read line; do count=`equery depends $line | wc -l` test $count -gt 0 echo $line done This will output every package listed in world that is a dependancy of something else. Of course, you need a recent version of gentoolkit to get equery. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Interesting results. I don't think I'd want to remove these and I thing the system would complain a bit if I removed vim. Anyway, it was an intersting experiment. myth11 root # ./CHECK-world app-editors/vim sys-apps/pciutils media-tv/mythtv myth11 root # cat /var/lib/portage/world sys-apps/slocate sys-kernel/gentoo-sources app-portage/gentoolkit media-sound/alsa-tools media-plugins/alsa-jack media-sound/alsa-utils app-editors/vim media-plugins/mythweather x11-wm/fluxbox sys-apps/pciutils app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools media-video/ati-drivers sys-kernel/linux-headers sys-boot/grub media-libs/alsa-oss media-plugins/mythnews app-admin/syslog-ng media-tv/mythtv app-misc/screen myth11 root # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
I just got set up with SkypeOut and that thing is awesome. I'm not using the kde or enlightenment sound daemons. http://www.skype.com/help/faq/linux.html »What sound system does Skype for Linux beta use? Skype for Linux beta uses OSS (Open Sound System), using /dev/dsp as its audio input and output device. It works fine also with ALSA and its OSS emulation layer. Native support for other sound systems will be added in the future.« This means: * No sounddemon gets used * ALSA doesn't get used (directly) * OSS gets used * But if you have ALSA installed it will work via the ALSA OSS emulation * If your card doesn't support hardware mixing (most consumer cards do not) only one application or soundserver can run on the card. If Skype blocks the card, you cannot use any other audio application * EVen with DMIX (ALSA software mixing plugin) it will be difficult because DMIX cannot handle transparently OSS requesting apps What I'm confused about is the message I get when running skype from the command line: No running artsd or esd found Starting skype without sound daemon There are arts and esd USE flags for skype. Where do these sound daemons come in? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] is there anybody succeded with ./CA.pl -newca in Gentoo 2005.0?
Hello! Is there anybody who succeded in making certificates with ./CA.pl -newca in Gentoo 2005.0? I was using universal live cd, with its stage and portage files not using emerge --sync. I followed howto guide for virtual mail system with postfix. One of the step was creating certicates with ./CA.pl -newca but didn't succeed, about what I already wrote in ML, but couldn't solve the problem. I would like to know if this is a bug or not? Or what if not a bug. thanks in advance. askar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability. But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to penetrate the market with their proprietary protocol- As soon as this happened, it is likely that the Linux version disappears. Why would they remove the Linux version? That would mean less people will use and pay for their software. So, if you like your freedom, search for free alternatives, and if there are none, help building them. There already are alternatives like linphone, SFLphone or KPhone. Do those alternatives let you call normal phone lines? It's hard to tell from these: http://www.linphone.org http://www.sflphone.org/ http://www.wirlab.net/kphone/ It looks like linphone and kphone are in portage but not sflphone? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
Grant wrote: When I try to mount CDRW discs I get: mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock but other discs mount fine. Does anyone know what that is about? Maybe I'm not burning them correctly? What are you using to write these? Are they fixated? Maybe cdrecord ... -fix can help... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file
Mark Knecht wrote: Interesting results. I don't think I'd want to remove these and I thing the system would complain a bit if I removed vim. Anyway, it was an intersting experiment. Yes, _unmerging_ anything in this list could be extremely dangerous. It might lead you to unmerge python or even glibc...and then you would be really hosed. I would consider the output a guide for manually (and cautiously!) editing your world file! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Richard Fish wrote: Grant wrote: When I try to mount CDRW discs I get: mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock but other discs mount fine. Does anyone know what that is about? Maybe I'm not burning them correctly? What are you using to write these? Are they fixated? Maybe cdrecord ... -fix can help... Actually, looks like he's trying to mount the CD with ext2/3 filesystem instead of iso9660 try: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom If that works, fix your fstab Christopher Fisk -- I WILL NOT STRUT AROUND LIKE I OWN THE PLACE I WILL NOT STRUT AROUND LIKE I OWN THE PLACE Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 2F15 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
When I try to mount CDRW discs I get: mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock but other discs mount fine. Does anyone know what that is about? Maybe I'm not burning them correctly? What are you using to write these? Are they fixated? Maybe cdrecord ... -fix can help... -Richard I used -fix and still can't mount them. I'm writing them like this: cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -audio -pad *.wav When trying to mount it actually tells me to specify the filesystem type first, then I specify vfat (it won't accept auto), then I get the superblock error. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
When I try to mount CDRW discs I get: mount: /dev/hdc: can't read superblock but other discs mount fine. Does anyone know what that is about? Maybe I'm not burning them correctly? What are you using to write these? Are they fixated? Maybe cdrecord ... -fix can help... Actually, looks like he's trying to mount the CD with ext2/3 filesystem instead of iso9660 try: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom If that works, fix your fstab With 5 out of 6 of my CDRW discs I get this: system4 ~ # mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, or too many mounted file systems But on 1 of them it mounts fine even if I don't specifiy -t. That disc only has one file on it. The discs that won't mount do play in a CD player just fine. Any ideas? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
Grant schreef: The discs that won't mount do play in a CD player just fine. Any ideas? Are these then regular Redbook audio CDs you've burned? Those don't need to be mounted. Just put them into the drive, open your media player of choice and play them as you would a 'retail' audio CD. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
--- Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -audio -pad *.wav When trying to mount it actually tells me to specify the filesystem type first, then I specify vfat (it won't accept auto), then I get the superblock error. Audio cds are in cdda format. It's not a regular filesystem and there isn't a driver to mount them with.You can copy them with cdrdao, rip them with cdparanoia, play them with xmms-cdread, etc... Zac __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -audio -pad *.wav You cannot mount audio cd's under normal circumstances (there are some exceptions to this general rule, but you normally have to install stuff in order to get that functionality). In the case where you mentioned that you could mount an audio cd, I would bet it was a multimode cd that had data and audio tracks; the audio is used by the cd player and the data tracks are used by the mount/iso 9660 filesystem. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
The discs that won't mount do play in a CD player just fine. Any ideas? Are these then regular Redbook audio CDs you've burned? Those don't need to be mounted. Just put them into the drive, open your media player of choice and play them as you would a 'retail' audio CD. Ok, but sometimes I have a written CDRW and I don't know what's on it. I guess I should try to mount it, if that fails, try to play it, if that fails I've got bad data? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
Grant wrote: Ok, but sometimes I have a written CDRW and I don't know what's on it. I guess I should try to mount it, if that fails, try to play it, if that fails I've got bad data? Or follow my rule...no label, treat as blank. It works in the office too! ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
Mark Knecht wrote: The typical reason for low performance AND high CPU is that the controller (in this case probably the USB interface chip) isn't enabled for DMA. It looked like you have the right drivers loaded so possibly the USB chip is not a major brand name? Sorry I didn't read earlier parts of this thread. What chipset is this? lspci -v and supply back the data on the USB chips. The next idea is that you have both the ehci and uhci drivers loaded. If somehow you got the drive plugged into a USB 1.0/1.1 port then you'd only get about 1MB/S. Did you try all your ports? They are not all the same on my Compaq and I do get better performance from the USB 2.0 ports. Good luck, Mark I recently purchased a WD 160GB external USB drive and can't get it to perform reliably on my server. It works fine when connected to my workstation machine (a P4P800 ASUS MB with USB 2.0 support). The server only has 1.1 USB support, but the problem is that it starts out copying fine at about 11MB/sec and then after a bit slows to a crawl and stays that way. I have formatted it with an ext3 filesystem. Here's all the info if anyone has an idea. lspci -v: :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3580 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 2000 [size=32] :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3580 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at 2020 [size=32] :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #3) (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc: Unknown device 3580 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at 2040 [size=32] KERNEL config (2.6.11-gentoo-r9 #1 SMP) CONFIG_USB=y CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB is not set I guess there's no reason to have ECHI/OHCI turned on, but does that matter? For the time being I am using NFS to access the drive (currently connected to my workstation) from the server. I don't care much about the speed difference from 1.1 to 2.0, this is just used as extra storage for some low priority batch jobs. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
-- dhcp: host name lookup failure-- or -- Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?
Now I have put -d to the argument list in /etc/conf.d/net and I get the answer. Next question: How do I tell the dhcp client where to find the host name? Tirsdag den 7. juni 2005 23:29 skrev Zac Medico: --- Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4) connects immediately where as my present version takes about one minute. So I really miss to know what is wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could give an advice! /sbin/dhcpcd is the client program. Maybe you can copy it from the other box just to see if there is a difference. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html -- Venlig hilsen / Greetings from Claus Ladekjær Wilson Bellisvænget 18 DK - 5450 Otterup tlf. +45-66191050 / mob. +45-61665543 http://www.clauswilson.dk Linux gentoo 2004.2 kernel 2.6.7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus
Kurt Guenther wrote: Try this: emerge -p gnome-applets I found a package that was blocking the emerge (including one for gnome menus). I resolved this and emerged about 10 packages and my clock applet is running. Although, now I have a impossibly small font for my resolution (1900x1200). It seems that most of the gnome preferences menu items are missing. I had some gnome packages that was not at version 2.10. So the first things I tried was to upgrade gnome-applets and that did the trick for the clock applet. I then did a whole deep-update-newuse-thing so I guess most clues what might have been wrong are lost now. I have no problem with fonts etc. Only remaining problem seen so far is that the start-here icon does not work. I had started a quest to remove evolution, by removing a few evolution packages, that might have caused the problem with the not-complete-gnome-to-2.10 update. But as I said the update probably removed all clues since it reinstalled evolution for me. (So I still have this path to go down if I dare try it again. ;.-) This time I will try to do it while not updating gnome at the same time. Yours -- %% Mats -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW trouble: can't read superblock
That's why I keep my soft pen always near my CDRWs and CDRs! I even got a special one that is thin and so I write a complete description instead of Audio 1 or Data 2 *lol* Don't tell anyone, but once I spent 2 hours looking for a backup CD for my boss (had to bring all CDs home to check each one), the damn one was labeled RD 001, then I discovered that means Recover Data. Tsc tsc. On 6/8/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but sometimes I have a written CDRW and I don't know what's on it. I guess I should try to mount it, if that fails, try to play it, if that fails I've got bad data? Or follow my rule...no label, treat as blank. It works in the office too! ;- -Richard Good point. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: -- dhcp: host name lookup failure-- or -- Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?
--- Claus Ladekj�r Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I have put -d to the argument list in /etc/conf.d/net and I get the answer. Next question: How do I tell the dhcp client where to find the host name? What hostname? The client's hostname? That normally goes in /etc/conf.d/hostname. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file
Hi, On Wednesday 08 June 2005 17:34, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: My world file seems remarkably long to me at 129 lines. I know I've added some stuff, but many of these entries ring no bells in my memory. I think a big part of what has happened is that in various throes of dealing with portage, I've emerged particular things without the --oneshot flag -- I had this system for quite a while before I even knew about that flag. So: is there an easy way to find out if a package can be removed from world because it is already in there as a dependency or because of the profile? I'd like to pare world down to just the things that make a difference. Yes, the tool available in [1] does this job pretty good! Check the -sw switch for that. take care, have fun /christian [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-260866-highlight-unclepine.html pgpsahQJZE2Ui.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the future of development. I wouldn't worry about the Linux version dissapear, the FREE version, OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of spyware. Besides, if you take a look at the license you agree when you use it (and I am almost a lawyer), taking your freedom away is the least they are doying. You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous purpose. I won't let them use my computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a GREAT software, but FREE?! *lol* don't be fooled, they are getting well paid, believe me. On 6/8/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skype isn't awesome. They did it right in terms of usability. But do not forget that they are abusing you, the user, to penetrate the market with their proprietary protocol- As soon as this happened, it is likely that the Linux version disappears. Why would they remove the Linux version? That would mean less people will use and pay for their software. So, if you like your freedom, search for free alternatives, and if there are none, help building them. There already are alternatives like linphone, SFLphone or KPhone. Do those alternatives let you call normal phone lines? It's hard to tell from these: http://www.linphone.org http://www.sflphone.org/ http://www.wirlab.net/kphone/ It looks like linphone and kphone are in portage but not sflphone? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: -- dhcp: host name lookup failure-- or -- Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?
--- Claus Ladekj�r Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I have no such file - /etc/conf.d/hostname With older versions of baselayout it was /etc/hostname. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list