Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 16:17 +1200, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dave Jones wrote: I've implemented the hddtemp service, and see that my HDs, one an IBM 120GB, the other a Hitachi 120GB disk, run a steady 46 and 49 degrees C. This seems a bit too warm for my liking. Are these 'normal' running temperatures for these ATA 7200 RPM disks? Cheers, Dave Those temperatures seem a bit high for comfort. Try a fan or similar - I've got 4 Maxtor 6E040L0's with a fan in front of 'em and hddtemp reports 26-29 degrees C (These particular disks are known to run fairly cool, so for yours I'd look for temperatures in the 30-39 range). My Maxtor 6Y120P0: 30 C (ATA drive - no fan - all open boxes) Maxtor SATA 200GB: 31 C (same open box) -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Server beta on Gentoo
Hey James,I'm a happy vmware server user on gentoo.But I did try following the guidelines on that url you supplied, and I wasn't able to start vmware.I did found a work around, first emerge vmware-workstation, when that's done untar the vmware-server in /opt. And then run the vmware-install.pl, this will overwrite the vmware-workstation files. And last thing run vmware-config.pl.If everything when according to plan, the vmware-config script will start the vmware service. One more thing I did, was manually remove vmware-workstation from world.GreetsPeter2006/5/21, James Colby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: List members -Does anyone on the list have any experience with installing vmware-server on a gentoo box.I followed the directions found athttp://diaryproducts.net/about/operating_systems/unix/installing_vmware_server_on_gentoo_linux_part_2 but I can't get the vmware service to start.Any help or suggestionsany one might have would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,James--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- I have plenty of common sense, I just choose to ignore it. --- Calvin
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Hardwarespec
On Saturday 20 May 2006 14:48, Nagatoro wrote: Nicolas MASSÉ wrote: On Friday 19 May 2006 12:59, Nagatoro wrote: Case: Antec Sonata II 450W I have this case and it is a really good product ! Quiet one? Yes, with 3 HDD in the box and the fan at the lowest speed, I can sleep near the computer (ok, my CPU is passively watercooled). Board: Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 CPU:AMD S939 4200+ Dual Core Memory: 2GB DDR400 Simple question: did you check the compatibility of the memory with the motherboard ? For example, with my Asus A8N-E, I can't use any memory : the compatibility table is on the manual of the mother board. Not really, this is what my local dealer suggested, and the specs from the respective webpages seem to fit. Another question: two sticks or just one ? I meant : One stick of memory or two ? (i.e. dual channel or not). -- Nicolas MASSÉ Pour récupérer ma clef GPG: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x2A18C433 Key fingerprint: 6621 FC23 5DC7 54BA B952 316A 50B1 BC3F 2A18 C433 pgpJ1ARPTkt00.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Server beta on Gentoo
Hello James, On Sunday 21 May 2006 03:38, James Colby wrote: Does anyone on the list have any experience with installing vmware-server on a gentoo box. I followed the directions found at http://diaryproducts.net/about/operating_systems/unix/installing_vmware_ser ver_on_gentoo_linux_part_2 but I can't get the vmware service to start. Any help or suggestions any one might have would be greatly appreciated. Get the ebuilds via svn as written at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122500#123 I installed it on a AMD64 in 32 and 64 Bit mode. One thing i had to do is to re-emerge vmware-modules after vmware-server. regards Petric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Hardwarespec
Nicolas MASSÉ wrote: Yes, with 3 HDD in the box and the fan at the lowest speed, I can sleep near the computer (ok, my CPU is passively watercooled). Sound nice. Another question: two sticks or just one ? I meant : One stick of memory or two ? (i.e. dual channel or not). Two -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question on my USE choiche
Le Samedi 20 Mai 2006 12:47, Neil Bothwick a écrit : On Sat, 20 May 2006 10:52:30 +0200, Jonathan Chocron wrote: I mean that kdelibs should have the arts useflag set. Otherwise uou can't have any system sound (either through alsa or oss). KDE has an option to use an external player for system sounds, so you can still have them without aRts. No, I tried that. Kde will only use the external player if kdelibs has been compiled against arts. It took me a while to figure that out, since I too am using an external player for sounds. If you don't want to use arts, you just have to compile kdelibs against arts, and not the rest of kde. Regards, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB devices (dvd writer+scanner)
Le Dimanche 21 Mai 2006 21:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hello, I want to use linux for dvd writing and scanning. Both my scanner (Canon) and my dvd writer (BenQ) are usb devices. How can I know which device files these devices use? Or how can I configure a device file for these devices? Thank you very much in advance, Steffen pseiko pseiko # lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 009: ID 04a5:1007 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) Bus 001 Device 007: ID 04a9:2220 Canon, Inc. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d49:7010 Maxtor Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID : pseiko pseiko # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices [snip] //The scanner T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 7 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a9 ProdID=2220 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=Canon S: Product=CanoScan C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=500mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=16ms E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=03(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms // I guess this is the dvd writer? T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=02 Dev#= 9 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a5 ProdID=1007 Rev= 1.12 S: Product=USB 2.0 Storage Device C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=125us Hi, I am not sure what you mean by device file. If you mean a device node, that is a logical file in /dev, you will not find any for the scanner. 1) For the scanner. First of all, make sure your scanner is supported ! I switched from canon to epson because canon scanners were not very welle supported. Then, you have to emerge sane-backends with the usb useflag set. Figure out which backend your scanner use on the sane website (sane-project.org, if memory serves). Then, in the config file of the backend, set the usb id : usb product id device id For example, I added use 0x4b8 0x110 to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf for sane to detect my epson 1650. If your scanner is always plugged, you'll need to emerge coldplug and rc-update add coldplug default. You might have permission problems at that stage. Check the permissions on /proc/bus/usb/001/007. You must have rw rights to be able to use the scanner. 2) For the CD burner. It seems your cd-burner uses the usb-storage driver. It should then appear as /dev/sdX, provided you configured your kernel correctly. It should be useable at that address. You can do an lsscsi to figure out what to tell cdrecord, but any GUI (k3b...) should be able to detect and use your burner. I hope this helps, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:31, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Ok... now I'm stuck here: ramdisk compressed image found at block ufs: was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write udf-fs: no particition found (1) xfs: bad magic number xfs: sb validate failed kernel panic - not synching: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,18) is there any GOOD reason for using an initrd? Really? I can't imagine any. Second, what is this ufs stuff? This is linux. Kick out ufs, make the partitions linux, with ext3 or reiserfs or xfs or jfs. Make a udf, iso9660 and fat module, and don't build the other fs (except sysfs,proc etc). Build everything needed to boot INTO the kernel. Again, what are the advantages of a initrd? Except that it is another instance in boot that costs time and may be introduce a cause of failure? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
On Sunday 21 May 2006 07:30, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Good advice - tho I think 50 degrees C will burn your hand in about a second, so yeah - be careful! fingerburnging starts at 55°C. or more correct 'it hurts' start there, burning is around 60°C ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
Mark Kirkwood wrote: You could emerge smartmontools, and see if its temperature readings agree with hddtemp (they should). Here both smartmontools and hddtemp report a temperature of 27 degrees Celsius. But KSensors gives a system temperature of 33. Sticking in a normal thermometre through the open floppy bay and leaving it there for half an hour shows 35 degrees -- that's at the top of the case, so that would fit nicely with 33 degrees lower in the box. The harddisk is directly below the floppy bay: it should be around 35 degrees, not the reported 27. Also, at boot-time smartmon reports around 7 degrees, while the room is around 17. Apparently some disks report their temperature inaccurately. /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 27°C Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for help with Shorewall
John Jolet wrote: Jerry wrote: I am setting up gentoo on another computer and cannot get shorewall to start properly. I had used another version of shorewall previously but cannot get 3.0.4 to work. I have read and tried to follow the instruction in /usr/share/doc/shorewall-3.0.4/Samples/one-interface but no success. I have dialup modem, one other computer connected via eth0. If root runs 'which ip' the response is '/sbin/ip'. /etc/shorewall/zones: #ZONE TYPEOPTIONS IN OUT OPTIONS OPTIONS net ipv4- #LAST LINE - ADD YOUR ENTRIES ABOVE THIS ONE - DO NOT REMOVE /etc/shorewall/interfaces: #ZONE INTERFACE BROADCAST OPTIONS net ppp0- #LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES BEFORE THIS ONE -- DO NOT REMOVE /etc/shorewall/policy: #SOURCE DESTPOLICY LOG LEVEL LIMIT:BURST $FW net ACCEPT net all DROPinfo # The FOLLOWING POLICY MUST BE LAST all all REJECT info #LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES ABOVE THIS LINE -- DO NOT REMOVE /etc/shorewall/rules: has all rules commented out to try to make the startup as simple as possible. When I run shorewall start: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/shorewall # shorewall start Loading /usr/share/shorewall/functions... Processing /etc/shorewall/params ... Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf... Loading Modules... Starting Shorewall... Initializing... Shorewall has detected the following iptables/netfilter capabilities: NAT: Not available Packet Mangling: Available Multi-port Match: Not available Connection Tracking Match: Not available Packet Type Match: Not available Policy Match: Not available Physdev Match: Not available IP range Match: Not available Recent Match: Not available Owner Match: Not available Ipset Match: Not available CONNMARK Target: Not available Connmark Match: Not available Raw Table: Available CLASSIFY Target: Not available Determining Zones... IPv4 Zones: net Firewall Zone: fw Validating interfaces file... Validating hosts file... Validating Policy file... Determining Hosts in Zones... net Zone: ppp0:0.0.0.0/0 Processing /etc/shorewall/init ... Pre-processing Actions... Pre-processing /usr/share/shorewall/action.Drop... ..Expanding Macro /usr/share/shorewall/macro.Auth... ..End Macro ..Expanding Macro /usr/share/shorewall/macro.AllowICMPs... ..End Macro ..Expanding Macro /usr/share/shorewall/macro.SMB... ..End Macro ..Expanding Macro /usr/share/shorewall/macro.DropUPnP... ..End Macro ..Expanding Macro /usr/share/shorewall/macro.DropDNSrep... ..End Macro Pre-processing /usr/share/shorewall/action.Reject... Pre-processing /usr/share/shorewall/action.Limit... Deleting user chains... iptables: No chain/target/match by that name ERROR: Command /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Failed Processing /etc/shorewall/stop ... iptables: No chain/target/match by that name iptables: No chain/target/match by that name IP Forwarding Enabled Processing /etc/shorewall/stopped ... Terminated [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/shorewall # shorewall status Shorewall-3.0.4 Status at backup - Thu May 18 16:30:45 UTC 2006 Shorewall is stopped State:Stopped (Thu May 18 16:28:59 UTC 2006) Now I cannot connect to the internet through the modem nor ssh to the other computer. I was able to do both before running shorewall start. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/shorewall # /etc/init.d/iptables stop * Saving iptables state ...[ ok ] * Stopping firewall ...[ ok ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/shorewall # ssh main Password: Now I can ssh and connect to the internet. What am I doing wrong? Any advice appreciated. Jerry to get your access back, issue shorewall clear the problem on start is that you don't have those capabilities listed activated in your kernel I figured out which capabilites I needed in the kernel and now shorewall starts without complaining. thanks john. jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for help with Shorewall
Ryan Tandy wrote: Jerry wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/shorewall # shorewall start Any particular reason why you're running that instead of /etc/init.d/shorewall start? Thats is what the docs suggested as the start command. Shorewall has detected the following iptables/netfilter capabilities: NAT: Not available Packet Mangling: Available Multi-port Match: Not available Connection Tracking Match: Not available Packet Type Match: Not available Policy Match: Not available Physdev Match: Not available IP range Match: Not available Recent Match: Not available Owner Match: Not available Ipset Match: Not available CONNMARK Target: Not available Connmark Match: Not available Raw Table: Available CLASSIFY Target: Not available Hmmm... looks like you're missing a few fairly necessary components. Might want to add a bit more to your iptables configuration in your kernel config, or have some fun with modprobe. I rebuilt the kernel with more iptables modules and shorewall works fine. iptables: No chain/target/match by that name ERROR: Command /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Failed This is caused by the line Connection Tracking Match: Not available - you need to build in to your kernel or modprobe the conntrack module. Now I cannot connect to the internet through the modem nor ssh to the other computer. I was able to do both before running shorewall start. shorewall clearor/etc/init.d/shorewall clear [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/shorewall # /etc/init.d/iptables stop * Saving iptables state ...[ ok ] * Stopping firewall ...[ ok ] You don't need to have iptables running for shorewall to work (I know I don't). delta ~ # /etc/init.d/shorewall status * status: started delta ~ # /etc/init.d/iptables status * status: stopped HTH. Ryan Thanks for the help ryan. jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for help with Shorewall
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 18 May 2006 17:38, Jerry wrote: Shorewall has detected the following iptables/netfilter capabilities: NAT: Not available Packet Mangling: Available Multi-port Match: Not available Connection Tracking Match: Not available Packet Type Match: Not available Policy Match: Not available Physdev Match: Not available IP range Match: Not available Recent Match: Not available Owner Match: Not available Ipset Match: Not available CONNMARK Target: Not available Connmark Match: Not available Raw Table: Available CLASSIFY Target: Not available What am I doing wrong? Any advice appreciated. You haven't configured your kernel for firewalling. Uwe Reconfigurred the kernel and all is fine. thanks uwe. jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
Joseph wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 16:17 +1200, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dave Jones wrote: I've implemented the hddtemp service, and see that my HDs, one an IBM 120GB, the other a Hitachi 120GB disk, run a steady 46 and 49 degrees C. This seems a bit too warm for my liking. Are these 'normal' running temperatures for these ATA 7200 RPM disks? Cheers, Dave Those temperatures seem a bit high for comfort. Try a fan or similar - I've got 4 Maxtor 6E040L0's with a fan in front of 'em and hddtemp reports 26-29 degrees C (These particular disks are known to run fairly cool, so for yours I'd look for temperatures in the 30-39 range). My Maxtor 6Y120P0: 30 C (ATA drive - no fan - all open boxes) Maxtor SATA 200GB: 31 C (same open box) Well, this is what I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080P0: 34 C [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # hddtemp /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: WDC WD800BB-00DKA0: 35 C [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Mine is in a case that has temp controlled fans. There is no coolers or fans on the drives though. Case temp is 27C. I guess it depends on where it is measuring that temp too. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages
Le Dimanche 21 Mai 2006 16:11, Daniel D Jones a écrit : I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/db/pkg # emerge -uDvat world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =net-misc/neon-0.25.3 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - net-misc/neon-0.25.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - net-misc/neon-0.25.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. !!!(dependency required by gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.1 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/unison !!! Depgraph creation failed. Curiously, gnome-vfs isn't installed on my system. (I don't even use gnome.) Should I simply unmask neon or is there a better way to handle this error? One of your package must depend on gnome-vfs, and tries to pull it when you emerge -Dup world (maybe it's just the upgrade that depends on it, most probably because of a new useflag). You could just unmask neon, but IMHO, gnome-vfs and neon would be installed on your system during the upgrade process, and I don not think that's something you want. Try a qdepends -Q gnome-vfs to figure out what package is pulling it, and fiddle the useflags accordingly. BTW, what version of portage are you using ? Regards, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages
Jonathan Chocron wrote: Le Dimanche 21 Mai 2006 16:11, Daniel D Jones a écrit : I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/db/pkg # emerge -uDvat world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =net-misc/neon-0.25.3 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - net-misc/neon-0.25.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - net-misc/neon-0.25.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. !!!(dependency required by gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.1 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/unison !!! Depgraph creation failed. Curiously, gnome-vfs isn't installed on my system. (I don't even use gnome.) Should I simply unmask neon or is there a better way to handle this error? One of your package must depend on gnome-vfs, and tries to pull it when you emerge -Dup world (maybe it's just the upgrade that depends on it, most probably because of a new useflag). You could just unmask neon, but IMHO, gnome-vfs and neon would be installed on your system during the upgrade process, and I don not think that's something you want. Try a qdepends -Q gnome-vfs to figure out what package is pulling it, and fiddle the useflags accordingly. BTW, what version of portage are you using ? Regards, -- Jonathan You could add the -t option to see what is bringing it in too. I'm bad to do this: emerge -uvtp world and then see what is happening and what pulls in what including USE flags. Can add the -D option if needed. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:57, Teresa and Dale wrote: Joseph wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 16:17 +1200, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dave Jones wrote: I've implemented the hddtemp service, and see that my HDs, one an IBM 120GB, the other a Hitachi 120GB disk, run a steady 46 and 49 degrees C. This seems a bit too warm for my liking. Are these 'normal' running temperatures for these ATA 7200 RPM disks? Cheers, Dave Those temperatures seem a bit high for comfort. Try a fan or similar - I've got 4 Maxtor 6E040L0's with a fan in front of 'em and hddtemp reports 26-29 degrees C (These particular disks are known to run fairly cool, so for yours I'd look for temperatures in the 30-39 range). My Maxtor 6Y120P0: 30 C (ATA drive - no fan - all open boxes) Maxtor SATA 200GB: 31 C (same open box) Well, this is what I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080P0: 34 C [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # hddtemp /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: WDC WD800BB-00DKA0: 35 C [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Mine is in a case that has temp controlled fans. There is no coolers or fans on the drives though. Case temp is 27C. and you too should start cooling your drives. Case fans are not sooo important, but cool drives are. Every degree temperature reduces the lifespan a lot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On 5/20/06, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 20, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:I like to be one of the good guys. I'm not always sure what that means in particular cases, so I'm going to ask what I should do here. Opinions welcome. Flames somewhat less so. I got a 30-day trial license for vmware, thinking to replace my aging Win4Lin. It seems to work (thanks to folks on this list). But I notice that now that I've created my VMs, I may not need workstation any more. I could do very well with the player, which is free.I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... There is this which fits your budgethttp://www.parallels.com / Yes, the price is right, but when I tried it I could not make it work. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] museseq-0.6.2-r1 not compiling
On Сбт, 2006-05-20 at 20:03 +, b.n. wrote: Trying to re-emerge (due to new use flags) museseq gave me the following error: itransformbase.cpp:28:23: spinboxfp.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [itransformbase.lo] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs 1. Please report about this at bugs.gentoo.org. (Search beforehand with keyword museseq) 2. Try to compile with env MAKEOPTS=-j1 emerge museseq HTH, Peter. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
Mark Kirkwood wrote on 21/05/06 07:30: On May 20, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Dave Jones wrote: I've implemented the hddtemp service, and see that my HDs, one an IBM 120GB, the other a Hitachi 120GB disk, run a steady 46 and 49 degrees C. When you touch them, does it feel about right. While it is warm, it is not that warm that you couldn't make a guess if it was right or not and you shouldn't hurt yourself. The reason I mention it is to have a second opinion if hddtemp is working correctly in your installation. I have not run hddtemp but have run some vendor utilities from hitachi and they gave bogus info back on HD temp The fact that both the IBM and Hitachi drives are recording similar temperatures suggests that hddtemp is probably reading them correctly. You could emerge smartmontools, and see if its temperature readings agree with hddtemp (they should). -- I was told that Hitachi took over the manufacture of IBM HDs a few years ago, and that IBM no longer deliver their own brand ATA HDs. Can anyone confirm if this is true? When I ordered a second IBM HD to match my original IBM 120 GB HD, I received a Hitachi disk instead. Maybe the IBM disk temperature readings are bogus, like the Hitachi? I've emerged smartmontools, the temperature readings it gives agree with hddtemp. smartmonctl -a /dev/hdb gives the results below, which looks bad to me. I'd guess that my Hitachi second HD is heading for the great /dev/null. I don't have a thermometer in the house at the moment, but the HD's feel warm, not terribly hot, certainly not too uncomfortable to touch. Any recommendations for cool-running ATA HDs, preferably with a capacity of around 250 GB? Definitely backup time here though! Cheers, Dave (Please excuse the following long listing) --- smartctl version 5.33 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: IC35L120AVV207-0 Serial Number:VNVD03G4GDLX4P Firmware Version: V24OA63A User Capacity:123,522,416,640 bytes Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 6 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a Local Time is:Sun May 21 18:13:13 2006 CEST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (2855) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities:(0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time:( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time:( 48) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 095 095 060Pre-fail Always - 589825 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050Pre-fail Offline - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0007 098 098 024Pre-fail Always - 266 (Average 293) 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0012 100 100 000Old_age Always - 2310 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005Pre-fail Always - 1 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 099 099 000
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 5/20/06, *Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC* [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like to be one of the good guys. I'm not always sure what that means in particular cases, so I'm going to ask what I should do here. Opinions welcome. Flames somewhat less so. I got a 30-day trial license for vmware, thinking to replace my aging Win4Lin. It seems to work (thanks to folks on this list). But I notice that now that I've created my VMs, I may not need workstation any more. I could do very well with the player, which is free. I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... There is this which fits your budget http://www.parallels.com http://www.parallels.com/ Yes, the price is right, but when I tried it I could not make it work. ++ kevin I am using VMware 4.x workstation. The workstation performance is better than the free versions. I use Linux for my main desktop, however I do MS Win C# programming for a living so I couldn't just ditch WinXP. I find using VMWare very acceptable performance-wise, about 90% of my AMD64 3200+ speed, with 2GB I don't even notice I am running WinXP in a virtual machine. However, the 4.x version is getting a little outdated, and doesn't have the cleanest install on a 2.6 kernel. From time to time, I get sound locking issues, or the VMware kernel modules won't load even though I didn't change my kernel. So I went to look to upgrade/purchase the 5.x version and it is a little costly for home use. It is dirt cheap for corporate use though. Thanks for the link to Parallels. The price is great. I will go give it a test and and report back. I would think that Parallels works on Gentoo. They have a screenshot of it running on Gentoo with a Fedora VM. http://www.parallels.com/files/upload/ecomfedora_gentoo.gif Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Hi Ryan, The / partition is ext3. The ufs message is just a warning. I don't need UFS support. Any other clue? Leandro. 2006/5/21, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: ramdisk compressed image found at block ufs: was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write udf-fs: no particition found (1) xfs: bad magic number xfs: sb validate failed kernel panic - not synching: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,18) What filesystem is your / partition? Do you have support for it *built in* to your kernel? It looks like it found a valid UFS partition, but failed because it couldn't mount it RW... try making UFS RWable and see if it helps. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Hi Hemmann, well, I don't have a good reason to use initrd, but this is an attempt to try putting gentoo running on my server. I'll kick out ufs but I don't think that this is the problem. Yes, before try to use initrd I put everthing I need *built in* but didn't work. Any other clue? Thanks, Leandro. 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 04:31, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Ok... now I'm stuck here: ramdisk compressed image found at block ufs: was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write udf-fs: no particition found (1) xfs: bad magic number xfs: sb validate failed kernel panic - not synching: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,18) is there any GOOD reason for using an initrd? Really? I can't imagine any. Second, what is this ufs stuff? This is linux. Kick out ufs, make the partitions linux, with ext3 or reiserfs or xfs or jfs. Make a udf, iso9660 and fat module, and don't build the other fs (except sysfs,proc etc). Build everything needed to boot INTO the kernel. Again, what are the advantages of a initrd? Except that it is another instance in boot that costs time and may be introduce a cause of failure? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
Dave Jones wrote: smartmonctl -a /dev/hdb gives the results below, which looks bad to me. I'd guess that my Hitachi second HD is heading for the great /dev/null. 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 099 099 000Old_age Always - 13573 Drive has been ruuning for 13573 hours total. Error 30 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3448 hours (143 days Error 29 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3448 hours (143 days Error 28 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3448 hours (143 days These errors occurred 1 hours ago, 420 days. Since then no errors were detected. Drive is running fine, I would say. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 19:01, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi Hemmann, well, I don't have a good reason to use initrd, but this is an attempt to try putting gentoo running on my server. I'll kick out ufs but I don't think that this is the problem. Yes, before try to use initrd I put everthing I need *built in* but didn't work. Any other clue? your fstab is correct? you HAVE ext2/3 in your kernel? you did not accidentally remove pc-partition support? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Hi Hemmann, thanks to answer. I re-check /etc/fstab and everything seems to be ok. Yes, I have ext2/3 in the kernel. I think that problem stay in SCSI support, is there something that I need to check? About pc-partition support, what you really want to say about it? Thank you once again, Leandro. 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 19:01, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi Hemmann, well, I don't have a good reason to use initrd, but this is an attempt to try putting gentoo running on my server. I'll kick out ufs but I don't think that this is the problem. Yes, before try to use initrd I put everthing I need *built in* but didn't work. Any other clue? your fstab is correct? you HAVE ext2/3 in your kernel? you did not accidentally remove pc-partition support? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
Benno Schulenberg wrote on 21/05/06 19:27: smartmonctl -a /dev/hdb gives the results below, which looks bad to me. I'd guess that my Hitachi second HD is heading for the great /dev/null. 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 099 099 000Old_age Always - 13573 Drive has been ruuning for 13573 hours total. Error 30 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3448 hours (143 days Error 29 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3448 hours (143 days Error 28 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 3448 hours (143 days These errors occurred 1 hours ago, 420 days. Since then no errors were detected. Drive is running fine, I would say. Thank you very much for this information Benno, that's put my mind at ease! I was a bit concerned about the output from hdb as the smartmonctl command output from my hda showed no errors at all. I'm still backing the hdb disk up though, better safe than sorry - and it's a nice NFS performance test too! Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages
On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:11:55 -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote: For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. !!!(dependency required by gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.1 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/unison !!! Depgraph creation failed. Curiously, gnome-vfs isn't installed on my system. (I don't even use gnome.) gnome-vfs is a dependency of unison, see equery depgraph unison | grep vfs -- Neil Bothwick Don't put all your hypes in one home page. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
JimD wrote: Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Yes, the price is right, but when I tried it I could not make it work. ++ kevin I am using VMware 4.x workstation. The workstation performance is better than the free versions. I use Linux for my main desktop, however I do MS Win C# programming for a living so I couldn't just ditch WinXP. I find using VMWare very acceptable performance-wise, about 90% of my AMD64 3200+ speed, with 2GB I don't even notice I am running WinXP in a virtual machine. However, the 4.x version is getting a little outdated, and doesn't have the cleanest install on a 2.6 kernel. From time to time, I get sound locking issues, or the VMware kernel modules won't load even though I didn't change my kernel. So I went to look to upgrade/purchase the 5.x version and it is a little costly for home use. It is dirt cheap for corporate use though. Thanks for the link to Parallels. The price is great. I will go give it a test and and report back. I would think that Parallels works on Gentoo. They have a screenshot of it running on Gentoo with a Fedora VM. http://www.parallels.com/files/upload/ecomfedora_gentoo.gif Jim OK, I have WinXP installed in a Parallels VM. Parallels was *very* easy to install. They have an official Gentoo ebuild on their download page! I grabbed the ebuild and extracted it to /usr/local/portage. It put the ebuild in app-emulation/parallels-workstation. Now just do: sudo emerge app-emulation/parallels-workstation It downloads a tar.gz file and installs everything. Next run: sudo parallels-config This sets up the main vm options and compiles kernel mods. It took a few seconds with no errors. Now as a regular user just run the app: parallels A nice wizard walks you through setting up your VM. I need to do a lot more testing and usage to give a better opinion. However, I will give what I think so far. The price is great! The overall speed is right up there with VMware IMO. I use VMware workstation 4.x 8 hours a day Mon-Fri to do dev work. VM performance is important to me. Make sure you install the parallels tools inside of the VM to get better performance. I have noticed two negatives so far. 1. The video performance is not as fast as VMware 4.x. In VMware 4.x I really don't notice I am using an OS in a VM. With Parallels I have noticed that the mouse can jerk a little if you move the mouse a lot, especially on a web page with a Javascript rollover graphic. 2. The full screen support in VMware 4.x doesn't work for me. So I maximize the window and then use the VMware option to set the guest to fill the scree. I like it this way because I get the largest possible guest resolution while still being able to quickly get to my Linux apps without having to switch from full screen. Full screen support in parallels worked perfectly. However, I haven't found an option to make the guest fit to the host window size. While not a major issue, it is an annoyance to me because I want my guest OS to be as large as possible without being in full screen mode. For now I set the parallels VM to 1152x864. If parallels can speed up the video a little, it could be a real killer to VMware workstation. VMware workstation has great all around performance, however the price puts it out of reach of home users/developers. I will keep doing some more testing. I still have to install Visual Studio 2005, SQL Server 200 Dev and IIS/.Net. I have all of these running in VMware, so I want to see the performance of the same setup in parallels. Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 20:19, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi Hemmann, thanks to answer. I re-check /etc/fstab and everything seems to be ok. Yes, I have ext2/3 in the kernel. I think that problem stay in SCSI support, is there something that I need to check? About pc-partition support, what you really want to say about it? Thank you once again, I mean this: │ │[*] PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support (NEW) under Advanced Partition support. btw, scsi harddisk support is compiled into the kernel? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg i810/i915 mode problem (modular X)
On Sunday 21 May 2006 01:42, W.Kenworthy wrote: The modes are there but xorgs log shows them as filled out with zeros (see the bit for Mode 38 below - quite a number of modes are like this). 915resolution reports that the modes I want to use are present) If I start it up with the ext monitor connected I get a weird display on both screens - unusable. Ive done all the standard things and am thinking Ive run up into an xorg bug with this driver. It will be a few weeks before I get the time to fiddle with this again - its at least usable as long as I dont boot it with an ext monitor plugged in, if non-optimal in the way I am currently using it. The modes which xorg null's out are the ones your hardware cannot support. Only now did I notice that your laptop's native resolution is 1366x768. That is 768 pixels vertical. You physically cannot have 1024 pixels. Yet you write that you managed to force it once. Are you sure that was it? Anyway, I don't think you can use such a mode on your laptop. Your projector should work fine of course, but without clone mode. Another possibility would be having 1280x1024 workspace, which should display properly on the projector, but using a lower resolution on the laptop, which should behave like zooming because the workspace is bigger. I don't know how to do this off the top of my head, but it should be in the man pages. Regards, Jure pgpWbjs2oSqCA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Server beta on Gentoo
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I was able to get it installed thanks! Get the ebuilds via svn as written at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122500#123 I installed it on a AMD64 in 32 and 64 Bit mode. One thing i had to do is to re-emerge vmware-modules after vmware-server. regards Petric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Reliability of smart values (was: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures)
Benno Schulenberg wrote: Dave Jones wrote: smartmonctl -a /dev/hdb gives the results below, which looks bad to me. I'd guess that my Hitachi second HD is heading for the great /dev/null. 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 099 099 000Old_age Always - 13573 Drive has been ruuning for 13573 hours total. Hmm How much can this data be trusted? On my system, I've got: 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 145037 16.5 years? I don't think so... This is a Device Model: SAMSUNG MP0402H Alexander Skwar -- [Peter's new car has a directional device that gives different variations of Fork in the road] Yakov Smirnoff Voice: In Soviet Russia, road forks you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Skype problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! I installed skype but I can't used it: I have no access to ringing device (it's gray) but the call device is linked to /dev/dsp. I used it with the arts wrapper (I have kde 3.5.2) What can I do? Thanks, Luigi - -- Public key GPG(0x633F86B7) on http://keyserver.linux.it/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEcL3VHmkkjmM/hrcRAlVqAJ4/61AHHy112vIQL37vicStaydfIgCeJiiY iHZAxZmMnjI3ErpohDjp5xw= =J+Z2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware. I've got a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux). Usable for general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do anything heavy. I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow drive and not *quite* enough memory. In short, it's great for doing testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out of its league. If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot. Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
Cliff Wells wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware. I've got a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux). Usable for general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do anything heavy. I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow drive and not *quite* enough memory. In short, it's great for doing testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out of its league. If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot. Regards, Cliff Do you have the old mini with a G4 and the dog slow 4200 RPM drive? If so that would explain a lot. The new Intel based ones have a much faster processor and a much better hard drive. The difference is night-and-day. Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Ok.. I put it. And yes, scsi drivers is in the kernel. Any other clue? []s Leandro. 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 20:19, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi Hemmann, thanks to answer. I re-check /etc/fstab and everything seems to be ok. Yes, I have ext2/3 in the kernel. I think that problem stay in SCSI support, is there something that I need to check? About pc-partition support, what you really want to say about it? Thank you once again, I mean this: │ │[*] PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support (NEW) under Advanced Partition support. btw, scsi harddisk support is compiled into the kernel? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 21:39, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Ok.. I put it. And yes, scsi drivers is in the kernel. Any other clue? with drivers you mean the drivers for the card and the scsi disk driver? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Reliability of smart values (was: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures)
Alexander Skwar wrote: Benno Schulenberg wrote: Dave Jones wrote: 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 13573 Drive has been ruuning for 13573 hours total. How much can this data be trusted? It can't. Sometimes there's a factor involved (like on my old drive), sometimes the number wraps (like on the current one). On my system, I've got: 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 145037 16.5 years? I don't think so... You probably know how long the drive has approximately been running, then you can figure out the used multiplier. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Yes... for both. 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 21:39, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Ok.. I put it. And yes, scsi drivers is in the kernel. Any other clue? with drivers you mean the drivers for the card and the scsi disk driver? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] HD running temperatures
On May 21, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Dave Jones wrote: Any recommendations for cool-running ATA HDs, preferably with a capacity of around 250 GB? I bought a bunch of Hitachi 250 SATA drives -- they probably have an ATA interface version. Running open with no airflow they get slightly warm to the touch in my case. They are for a 1U rack that has a ton of big 40x40x28 mm fans that pull air across them but before I close it all up I hook a CD etc up to install and at that point they are running in the open. (I don't put a CDROM in the case for normal operation) Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 22:20, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Yes... for both. which driver? the aacraid one? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On May 21, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Cliff Wells wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware. I've got a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux). Usable for general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do anything heavy. I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow drive and not *quite* enough memory. In short, it's great for doing testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out of its league. On a 1.66ghz Core Duo Intel Mac Mini? Or are you talking the 1.42ghz single CPU G4 Mac Mini, the older Mini? The Intel Core Duo is a worthy chip. Obviously I am going to hike the memory up. Lots of people have already given a thumbs up to Parallels in a Core Duo mini with extra RAM added for normal non-gaming use. I just need to run Windows for tax SW, testing web pages in IE, etc. My old Athlon box is starting to develop some disk issues and is old and cranky :-) Chad If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot. Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On Sunday 21 May 2006 15:35, JimD wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware. I've got a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux). Usable for general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do anything heavy. I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow drive and not *quite* enough memory. In short, it's great for doing testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out of its league. If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot. Regards, Cliff Do you have the old mini with a G4 and the dog slow 4200 RPM drive? If so that would explain a lot. The new Intel based ones have a much faster processor and a much better hard drive. The difference is night-and-day. Wot? They're using Intel in the mini too? Hmmm... time to rethink my next linux server appliance... Thank you for the heads up. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Exactly... AACRAID one. 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 22:20, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Yes... for both. which driver? the aacraid one? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Benchmarking Kernels
Hi Folks: As I am getting better at compiling kernels etc., I was wondering if there is any software out there that will allow me to benchmark a new kernel to see if it is faster / better than an older one that I am using - -it would be nice to be able to quantify any gains or losses so I know where I stand Thank you TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 23:01, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Exactly... AACRAID one. hm, and the drive is correctly identified by the bios? You can use it, except when booting the new kernel? when you boot a livecd, can you mount the partitions? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On May 21, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Jerry McBride wrote: On Sunday 21 May 2006 15:35, JimD wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware. I've got a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux). Usable for general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do anything heavy. I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow drive and not *quite* enough memory. In short, it's great for doing testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out of its league. If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot. Regards, Cliff Do you have the old mini with a G4 and the dog slow 4200 RPM drive? If so that would explain a lot. The new Intel based ones have a much faster processor and a much better hard drive. The difference is night-and-day. Wot? They're using Intel in the mini too? Hmmm... time to rethink my next linux server appliance... Yes, the mini was upgraded a few months ago. $599 gives you a 1.5ghz Core Solo, 512mb, etc and $799 gives you a 1.66ghz Core Solo, 512mb, etc. You can go up to 2GB. They have a mediocre intel inegrated graphics of some sort (something 950) but for the price it is fine. I ordered a refurb $1.66ghz Core Duo Mini for $699 and had a $200 Apple Store coupon from their Aperture price reduction rebate, so it ended up being $499. Can't complain about that. :-) (I plan on leaving OS X on it but you could probably run Linux on it as well. I have a Cocoa OS X app I developed that I need to make run on Intel OS X) http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Google should help you find folks running Linux on them and how they did it. best Chad Thank you for the heads up. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Yes.. when I boot using livecd I can mount the partitions correct. I really don't know what is happened... :( []s Leandro 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 23:01, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Exactly... AACRAID one. hm, and the drive is correctly identified by the bios? You can use it, except when booting the new kernel? when you boot a livecd, can you mount the partitions? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
On Sunday 21 May 2006 23:50, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Yes.. when I boot using livecd I can mount the partitions correct. I really don't know what is happened... :( and the livecd uses tha aacraid driver too? is the grub entry really correct? maybe it looks after the wrong harddrive? (I had this problem some weeks ago. hda, sda. When booted, hda was drive 0 for grub, when booting, sda was drive 0 for grub. Took me some time to find the cause of my wrongly booting system). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] bash wizardry needed: PATH and MANPATH grow and grow and grow
I have inherited some pretty gnarly dotfiles that I don't really want to fool with too much, but I'm also unhappy with what they do to my environment. They keep adding the same things over and over to some of the variables. Does anyone know a nice little idiom for de-duping a colon-list like PATH or MANPATH? It has to retain one copy of each duplicate, preserving the order of *first* appearances. I know how to avoid duplicates when I do the coding myself: case :$PATH: in *:mynewthing:*) ;; *) export PATH=$PATH:mynewthing esac I'm just not sure how best to turn the colon-list into something I can iterate over. Obviously, I use bash. ++ kevin-- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] USB devices (dvd writer+scanner)
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 09:03:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Hello,
I want to use linux for dvd writing and scanning.
Both my scanner (Canon) and my dvd writer (BenQ) are usb devices.
How can I know which device files these devices use? Or how can I
configure a device file for these devices?
I strongly recommend udev rules to create symlinks. The problem is
that mass storage devices (harddrives, CDs, DVDs, flash drives, etc) are
assigned the next available device name. If you have 2 or more such
devices, their entries in /dev depend on the order they're plugged in.
udev rules allow you to create English symlinks that will always be the
same, and will point to the correct /dev entry, regardless of order of
plugging in. I'll run through what I did. You can follow along with
your DVDRW.
// I guess this is the dvd writer?
T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=02 Dev#= 9 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=04a5 ProdID=1007 Rev= 1.12
S: Product=USB 2.0 Storage Device
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=125us
1) You must either login or su as root to do all the following.
2) *WITHOUT* the device plugged in, execute the command fdisk -l.
Here's my output...
[m3000][root][~] fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1146011727418+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda21461 19457 144560902+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda514611704 1959898+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda61705 19457 142600941 83 Linux
3) Connect the device, insert media if required, and wait 60 seconds
for the necessary hand-shaking.
4) *WITH* the device plugged in, execute the command fdisk -l.
Here's my output...
[m3000][root][~] fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1146011727418+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda21461 19457 144560902+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda514611704 1959898+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda61705 19457 142600941 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40060403712 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 38204 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 3820439120880 83 Linux
5) Look for new devices (*NOT* partitions). Disk /dev/sdb is my
new device... *THIS TIME*. If I unplug it, plug in one or more other
USB devices, and plug it in again, it'll be a different device. To
work around that hassle, we need a udev rule that creates a consistent
symlink.
6) Use the command udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/??? x.txt to get udev
info for your device. Note that this variant only works for block
devices. Replace the ??? with the device name in /dev. It should be
something like sda or sdb, etc. Mine was sdb, so...
[m3000][root][~] udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sdb x.txt
7) This will include a lot of output. It'll have the main USB bus, the
USB ports, and also the device itself. Here's the important part for my
shirtpocket USB drive...
ID==2-2
BUS==usb
DRIVER==usb
SYSFS{configuration}==
SYSFS{serial}==1E0009C22E4B
SYSFS{product}==LaCie Hard Drive USB
SYSFS{manufacturer}==LaCie
SYSFS{maxchild}==0
SYSFS{version}== 2.00
SYSFS{devnum}==2
SYSFS{speed}==480
SYSFS{bMaxPacketSize0}==64
SYSFS{bNumConfigurations}==1
SYSFS{bDeviceProtocol}==00
SYSFS{bDeviceSubClass}==00
SYSFS{bDeviceClass}==00
SYSFS{bcdDevice}==
SYSFS{idProduct}==0341
SYSFS{idVendor}==059f
SYSFS{bMaxPower}== 2mA
SYSFS{bmAttributes}==c0
SYSFS{bConfigurationValue}==1
SYSFS{bNumInterfaces}== 1
Use any combination of the above keys that is unique enough *FOR YOUR
NEEDS* to generate a udev rule. If you've got 3 kids with identical
model mp3 players, and only one will connect at any time, then BUS, and
SYSFS{idProduct}, and SYSFS{idVendor} should be sufficient to identify
the device. If two or more will be connected simultaneously, you'll
need to key in on SYSFS{serial} to differentiate between them. Note;
you *MUST* copy the keys *EXACTLY*, including leading and trailing
spaces. I suggest cut-and-paste.
In addition to identifying the device on the system, you also have to
tell udev what the device will be called, and also what symlink to use
for it. Here is my rule for the above device; yours will obviously be
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: Yes, the mini was upgraded a few months ago. $599 gives you a 1.5ghz Core Solo, 512mb, etc and $799 gives you a 1.66ghz Core Solo, 512mb, That would be the Duo ;) etc. You can go up to 2GB. They have a mediocre intel inegrated graphics of some sort (something 950) but for the price it is fine. I ordered a refurb $1.66ghz Core Duo Mini for $699 and had a $200 Apple Store coupon from their Aperture price reduction rebate, so it ended up being $499. Can't complain about that. :-) (I plan on leaving OS X on it but you could probably run Linux on it as well. I have a Cocoa OS X app I developed that I need to make run on Intel OS X) Where can you find the refurbs? That sounds like a very good deal. Did it come with a 5200 RPM SATA drive? I have one of those in my laptop and they are pretty speedy. Not as fast as my 7200 RPM SATA II, but much, much better than the old 4200 IDE laptop drives. http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Google should help you find folks running Linux on them and how they did it. best Chad Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On May 21, 2006, at 6:50 PM, JimD wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: Yes, the mini was upgraded a few months ago. $599 gives you a 1.5ghz Core Solo, 512mb, etc and $799 gives you a 1.66ghz Core Solo, 512mb, That would be the Duo ;) Yes, sorry. etc. You can go up to 2GB. They have a mediocre intel inegrated graphics of some sort (something 950) but for the price it is fine. I ordered a refurb $1.66ghz Core Duo Mini for $699 and had a $200 Apple Store coupon from their Aperture price reduction rebate, so it ended up being $499. Can't complain about that. :-) (I plan on leaving OS X on it but you could probably run Linux on it as well. I have a Cocoa OS X app I developed that I need to make run on Intel OS X) Where can you find the refurbs? Go to the Apple Store online and in the right most column about 2/3rds of the way down is a bright red sale tag that says SAVE. Click on that :-) That sounds like a very good deal. Did it come with a 5200 RPM SATA drive? The specs page Complete Specifications as seen from the link for the mini below says that it has (the Duo) an 80gb 5400rpm SATA drive I have one of those in my laptop and they are pretty speedy. Not as fast as my 7200 RPM SATA II, but much, much better than the old 4200 IDE laptop drives. http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Google should help you find folks running Linux on them and how they did it. best Chad Jim --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Software suspend 2
List members - I am trying to to set up software suspend 2 on my laptop using the instructions found on gentoo-wiki.com. I am at the section where I need to configure my boot loader (I'm using lilo) and when I add the following entry to my lilo.conf: image=/boot/gentoo-suspend2 label=gentoo-suspend2 append = resume2=swap:/dev/hda7 read-only root=/dev/hda8 I get the following error when running lilo: Syntax error at or above line 14 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'. Line 14 is the append line. Does anyone have any idea as to what may be causing this? Thanks, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Software suspend 2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Colby wrote: List members - I am trying to to set up software suspend 2 on my laptop using the instructions found on gentoo-wiki.com. I am at the section where I need to configure my boot loader (I'm using lilo) and when I add the following entry to my lilo.conf: image=/boot/gentoo-suspend2 label=gentoo-suspend2 append = resume2=swap:/dev/hda7 read-only root=/dev/hda8 I get the following error when running lilo: Syntax error at or above line 14 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'. Line 14 is the append line. Does anyone have any idea as to what may be causing this? Thanks, James My append line looks like this: append=udev CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 Notice the difference between spaces and quotes in mine compared to yours. Hope that helps. - -- Jeremy Olexa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office: EE/CS 1-201 CS/IT Systems Staff University of Minnesota -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEcR8CFN7pD9kMi/URAvyzAJ4+uIwUhRMtV8ReG1u3d+BYg8PMrQCeOepA C91PDW6Z1TqgHMNty+mWgUk= =VbpT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Software suspend 2
I am no lilo expert, but the forst thing that strikes me about the lilo file you posted is that most of the lines have no spaces around the = sign. Line 14 does. On Sun, 21 May 2006 21:57:02 -0400 James Colby wrote: List members - I am trying to to set up software suspend 2 on my laptop using the instructions found on gentoo-wiki.com. I am at the section where I need to configure my boot loader (I'm using lilo) and when I add the following entry to my lilo.conf: image=/boot/gentoo-suspend2 label=gentoo-suspend2 append = resume2=swap:/dev/hda7 read-only root=/dev/hda8 I get the following error when running lilo: Syntax error at or above line 14 in file '/etc/lilo.conf'. Line 14 is the append line. Does anyone have any idea as to what may be causing this? Thanks, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype problem
There could be a couple of things causing this. Do you have ALSA's OSS Emulation properly configured. If you do, you should be able to hear sound when you #echo /dev/rand /dev/dsp . If /dev/dsp isn't working, please refer to the Gentoo Wiki article on setting up ALSA properly for OSS Emulation. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_Complete_%28includes_dmix%29You may also want to check on which version of ALSA you're using, because prior to ~0.9, dmix wasn't automatically enabled (software mixing) and if your sound card doesn't support hardware mixing, other devices will tie up /dev/dsp and not allow Skype access. Skype is very stingy when it comes to sharing /dev/dsp. Let me know what you come up with.Jason Weisberger
Re: [gentoo-user] system suspend every time when rebooting or shutdown.
I think I have solved this problem, not completely though. again I removed everything under /etc that belongs to baselayout, and re-emerge it, (I still don't know what the hell had caused the problem!). however, when I tried to restore some of my startup scripts like metalog, alsasound, gentoo complains with message like this: Could not get dependency info for XXX, try to fix . please run depscan.sh could not remember all words, but depscan.sh seemed no use at all ! thanks. daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation AMD64 with SCSI
Well, I have /dev/sda1 as my / partition. So, I setup my grub.conf like this: title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.16 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.16.img root=/dev/sda1 udev noapic acpi=off and my /etc/fstab looks like this: /dev/sda1 / ext3 noatime 0 1 /dev/sdb1 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdromiso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy autonoauto 0 0 I don't know what is wrong... Any tip? Thanks Leandro. 2006/5/21, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 May 2006 23:50, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Yes.. when I boot using livecd I can mount the partitions correct. I really don't know what is happened... :( and the livecd uses tha aacraid driver too? is the grub entry really correct? maybe it looks after the wrong harddrive? (I had this problem some weeks ago. hda, sda. When booted, hda was drive 0 for grub, when booting, sda was drive 0 for grub. Took me some time to find the cause of my wrongly booting system). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science Student Laboratório de Sistemas Distribuídos - www.lsd.ufcg.edu.br Laboratório de Sistemas Embarcados e Computação Pervasiva - www.embeddedacademy.org Universidade Federal de Campina Grande - UFCG Campina Grande - PB - Brasil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
